Already a decommitment for the class of 2014. Lawrence Marshall changes his mind about committing to Ohio State.
Marshall had visited Michigan State last night for the basketball game. He was at Michigan today.
Back to 4 for 2014.
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That was the most pathetic commitment ever.
He's 17. Its two months into 2013... Throwing stones makes absolutely no sense.
Nothing like dancing on the field in 02...
Yeah, I guess he had a good time at the basketball game in E. Lansing. What was it then, a three day commitment?
Doubt Urban gives up recruiting him, but I wonder if some instate d-lineman may get offers soon.
Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens
With the way decommits happened and worked out with LB's last class I'm kinda thinking positive. We could end up with better players in the end. I really like the LB's we got
Wherever you are, there you be!
Exactly Boom. OSU got the #1 player out of Texas, LB Mike Mitchell. I'd say that worked out well for OSU.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
For his sake I hope he does not commit anywhere else until he is 100%.
I hope ppl dont freak out about this one. Sure it would be nice to have the kid but its so early with so many options on the board that its okay if this one doesnt work out for us.
Gotta expect stuff like this from young kids caught ip in the excitement of realizing a dream. Also, people are going to be gunning for any Ohio kid just for the potential to best Urban.
I appreciate him getting out early. If his hearts not in it, make room for someone who wants it 100%.
Best wishes and I look forward to owning the school of your choice for the next decade. Go Bucks.
Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.
While a recruit committing and de-committing this fast is somewhat annoying, with this long until NSD 2014, there's no doubt the current coaching staff will just re-load with equally, if not more, talented
playersstudent athletes.I have already changed my mind on what I am wearing tomorrow and I'm 23.
He's 17 (maybe) so give him a break.
It is a new era. Mass media attention on recruiting and being spoiled by numerous staffs day in and day out make it a grueling process. More of this will happen moving forward.
No sweat. There's 119 offers out.
better yet why are you planning your wardrobes a day in advance?
Ha Ha Ha! ^^^
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
I'm down with the thought process of changing ones mind. Came home thinking we were having pizza, but there is a meat loaf in the oven. Why has my recliner been moved to the other side of the couch? Oh well, good luck with the recruiting process Lawrence.
An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches
I'm sure a fashion conscious young man such as yourself makes many difficult decisions.
Deleted the other thread so we have only one running on this.
Not surprising considering how early this happened.
Deleted my thread :(
Big deal? Nope. Is it an annoyance? Absolutely. Has there ever been a softer commitment? Kid said he was ending the recruiting process I believe.
Urban Warfare
I LOL'd.
At least Damon Webb still has the flag planted. Recruiting Mike Weber
Lawrence Marshall Jr or Alex Anzalone Jr? I kid I kid
The kid has probably been getting all kinds of shizz from the people in his hometown. After all, he lives in tsun.
We didn't even have enough time to get attatched to him. I wonder just how sure he sounded to the coaches just this previous Sunday that they thought he was in for real? Odd. I'm no coach, but I would think if a player in front of me said he was ending his recruitment but already had his foot in the door to go to a MSU basketball game, it would seem like something was off? Oh well, this is the new nature of the beast. Plenty of time left.
good to see we made his top three
knucklehead
Oh well I wasn't exactly sold on having a 205 pound DE on the roster anyway.
Barkevious Mingo from LSU was 209lbs coming out of high school, and he is one of the best pass rushers and DEs in the draft. Just saying
He was an OLB coming out of HS. He was moved to DE at LSU as he put on muscle.
Thats irrelevant...his size is his size. Are you saying Marshall could not have put on weight since he is already a DE?
True, but would you say Mingo is the exception or the rule?
No players always beef up. When Shazier came in as a freshman he weighed 199 and played DE for his high school. Now he is a 230+ linebacker. The Main thing with adding weight is if the prospects frame can handle it. Marshall is 6'3 to 6'4 depending on which site you look at and his frame can add a lot of good weight and not loose much speed, especially under Marriotti's program.
Of course they beef up, but the fact is that a player that was bigger than Marshall was thought to be too small to play DE. It's great that Mingo proved everyone wrong but I would not bank on Marshall being a great defensive end.
No way he is 230+ Bigger yes, 230+ no shot.
remember fred dean-san diego chargers
knucklehead
Oh yeah I'm sure he would've stayed 205lbs through the off season training and eating religiously.
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
I like to dress to impress. Gotta plan!
Good luck with that, Derek! I am satisfied if my clothes are not too wrinkled and don't smell too badly.
Sounded a little out of whack the other day when he committed to the surprise of tOSU staff and his parents. Probably a good thing (for him) to slow down and do proper due diligence before making his ultimate decision.
I hope he chooses tOSU in the end of course!
The way it goes. Fun while it lasted. Makes me appreciate the Joey Bosas and Cam Burrows and Jalin Marshalls even more.
I definitely agree, maintaing a commitment long-term in this whirlwind world of twitter recruiting is laudable. We just need every recruit to be like Bosa, sending his LOI in at 7:28 in the morning! You know he's on board.
Dante Sawyer and Dante Booker are 2 reasons why all is not lost for WDE
This is EXACTLY like what I used to do to my old girlfriend Nikki: break up with her every Summer. Then I'd have these little Summer flings with other girls who were pretty hot, but not as hot as Nikki. In the end though, I'd always come back to Nikki.
May be immaturity. It's understandable.
Urban turns decommits into 5 star commits. I'm not worried.
"Did you push yourself to be great today? If you didn't do it you lost a day. We ain't got many days to lose. We're going to push your a$$ like its never been pushed because what you've got in you were going to find out" UFM
So from today it means were trading a Lawrence Marshall for a Quinn Blanding........yeah im good with that:)
I understand that kids change their mind, and this is a huge choice for them, but why not commit until you are 100% sure? Best of luck to the kid, and I hope he becomes a Buckeye, but the rate at which decommittments occur in college athletics during recruiting cycles is pathetic.
I know it seems silly, but last week I went to go get jewelry for my girlfriend. I bought this ugly necklace for her because other people were buying things and the salesman had a good pitch and all this stuff. As soon as I got out of the door I turned around and returned it. People make mistakes. I'm sure it is hard for a 17 year old to combat the pressure to commit when you have Meyer, Vrabo, Coombs etc. telling you how awesome OSU will be. Hell, even for grad school, I was nervous as hell after I had paid my acceptance fee. I didn't stop thinking about OSU until I picked out an apartment here in Nashville.
"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch
I don't have a problem with the kid wanting to take more time to explore his options. It wouldn't shock me if he picked either of the michigan schools. On the flip side committing to tOSU early is a good choice because I think the '14 class is going to fill up quick. It's gonna suck if he's on the outside looking in when he does decide. Oh well, good luck to him.
It might suck for him, but not for us. If he's on the outside looking in, it means his spot was taken by a stronger recruit.
I care, but not all that much.
The only thing I find funny is that M*chigan fans are celebrating this after just saying it wasn't a big deal.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
I know that I'm not representative of the entire fanbase, but here are a couple snippets from my initial reaction.
I haven't been over to MgoBlog to read those comments yet, but I would guess that the It wasn't a big deal is referring to how it would've been MUCH worse if it was Malik McDowell. The fact that Michigan has a 50/50 shot with McDowell and a 20% chance with Hand left some optimism after a surprising recruiting loss for Hoke and Michigan.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
You and M Man are closet Ohio State fans, so that doesn't count.
I'm mainly going off of Mgo since I try to avoid Scouts, and 247 boards as much as I can.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Don't break your arm fergodsakes.
50/50 shot for McDowell? What teams have the other 50%? So Mich leads then?
Not super up on McDowell's recruitment, but I wouldn't say Michigan has a 50/50 shot. ND and Michigan are thought by some to be his early leaders, but there are a lot of other teams in the mix.
You're right. 50/50 is a bit presumptious of me. I think it will come down to ND and Michigan, and I don't think this goes past summer, but more teams will be pursuing him and he'll probably give some a fair shake.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
Has anyone checked out MGoBlag thread about this? Besides being pretty excited, they're floating the hypothesis that Meyer told Marshall "commit now or you may not (or won't) have a spot later", which of course means Meyer is EEEEEEEEEVVVIIIIIIILLL. Well, I for one hope Meyer said that. There's no reason to hold a spot in reserve for a prospect outside of Rivals 250. Hate to say it, but this decommitment gets exactly the same "meh" from me that his commitment got.
There are a couple of good users on Mgo, but for the most part it is filled with delusional people.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
If Meyer did make that comment, I think he was just being honest with Marshall. It's not like he's the only DE out there for 2014.
If the Michelin slappies what to portray that as Urban being "evil," well then, that's their problem.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
ummmm....
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/recruiting/2013/02/tsun-is-having-a-...
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/02/19610/committed-catching-up-with-o...
People here are doing the exact same thing as on MGoBlog. As a Michigan fan it's great when a good player decommits from your rival and hopefully he ends up at my team. But to celebrate it one day, then act like it's not a big deal he decommits makes no sense. It's VERY early in the recruiting and these guys are 17 year old kids. They change their minds. If he ends up at MSU, cool, if he goes to Michigan, Great, if he comes back to OSU, best of luck to him. Both fan bases are very passionate, which is great, but both sides have had the exact same reactions for this recruitment. There's no need to bring up Michigan fan reactions when this board is full of the same stuff. Same thing for Mgo, they don't need to bring up OSU fan reactions.
Not here to troll...Go Blue
It's no big deal. Did some fans over react? Yes but to celebrate like a bunch of children because he decommits is beyond me I know this means you girls still have a chance but from what I've seen that wasn't being celebrated it was more of he decommited from Ohio aha aha I'm like really he was commited to the bobcats...could've sworn it was the buckeyes.
But we have plenty of Marshalls on our roster and being looked at. If he comes back good if not oh well to many good ones out there to whine about this kid.
When someone shows you who they are believe them! In other words piss a good friend off and see what they really think about you.
Urban said of the early commits that it meant that OSU was one of three. He knew that they weren't a lock and the coaches needed to keep grinding.
Anyone else find it odd that he goes to the MSU game the night they play Michigan then the very next day he visits Michigan?? Basically went to the game with Dantonio and rode home with Jobba. Odd
10/10 would sweat again.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
Urban Meyer and company thought enough of him to offer a scholarship regardless of his position (or lack of) on a top 250 list.
Not sure about the source or veracity, but I've already read rumors (on mgoblog of course) about either a non-commitable offer or a warning/ultimatum that he'd better act fast if he wants to have a spot.
Well, fiddlesticks . . . .
Hey! You watch your language sir!
LOL!
Hopefully his recruitment doesn't turn into Anzalone round 2
Oh Toledo Blade, do you still plan to run this story in tomorrow's paper?
The Toledo Blade is one of the worst papers in the country because it is so biased, but it is the only daily here to get local news. I don't subscribe.
Having said that, I read the article, and it seemed fair, for once. Surprising.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
You gotta ask yourself one question......Do I enjoy being 0-4? Well, do ya?
Alex Anzalone all over? really hope Webb sticks, he is the one from that state up north that i really want to have in the 2014 class
He'll stick.
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
I just saw this on twitter....ref. Webb....some michigan fan thought it would be cute to post that Webb had decommitted....I like Webb's reply....."Not a Chance!!!!!"
Dame@DameWebb
“@MWhite_GOBLUE: @DameWebb has decomitted from Ohio State. A source has confirmed!” Not a chance!
+1 I like his Instagram pic and handle too! @osu_dame
why aren't these kids parents telling them not to even create the drama by commiting when you aren't 100 percent. makes no sense to me where these kids parents are, they shouldnt be making the dicision but they should tell them to make whatever decision the right way
Maybe their parents are not around. Many of these kids live in single parent families, or worse, don't live with parents at all. If he is making social media posts looking for attention, he very well may not have the optimal family atmosphere that he needs. I don't know if you know/have known any kids in these situations, but big-time athlete or just regular kid, many of them are starved for attention. I mentor/tutor some at-risk kids and I can guarantee you, if they were prospects garnering major college recruiters (and recruiting site fans), they would absolutely play up the social media drama just to bring some attention to themselves.
As fans, we feed into this monster. Did people reply back to Marshall? Yep. If fans just ignored the tweets/posts, I doubt these kids would still feel the need to stir the pot.
Given that based on the information from the interviews, we know Marshall's parents were with him on his tOSU visit and his recent Michigan visit, I think we can tell this kid has parents that are vested in what their son has going on and are following his recruitment. Also, since he stated he committed on the spot, surprising even his parents, why can't his decommittment be a product of good parenting? A good parents number one priority is going to be what is best for their kid. Given the suddenness and surprise of his commitment, maybe they talked to him and they all agreed he needs to spend more time exploring his options. His quick decommitment to me shows the values of honesty and the ability to admit he made a mistake in committing early. Communicating that to the tOSU coaches instead of stringing them along is showing them respect. I just don't see anything here that leads to conclusions of bad parenting and Marshall being a bad apple.
Blaming all others (especially the evil media) except the kid himself.
Are these 17 year old kids sooooo very vulnerable and pathetic that they cannot be flaky or irresponsible.
Are minority kids especially pathetic??
It's Buckeye Nation's fault now? The media? the cruel streets??
Give people some credit for being capable of screwing up all by themselves.
Stop blaming the media -- we are moving away steadily from anything resembling individual responsibility. Let's please quit treating minority kids like brainless cripples manipulated by the heartless media.
Kids are vulnerable and flighty. This process tends to overwhelm them and play to their emotions. It isn't that they are not to blame, but we put many of them in situations they are not ready for and EXPECT a perfect outcome. You give a kid a pass for being a kid,adults should know better...
I am constantly impressed by how well most of these kids handle the recruiting process. Even in the case of Marshall, he realized he pulled the trigger to soon and acted on it immediately, giving himself and OSU the greatest opportunity to correct the situation.
I've had colds that lasted longer than that commitment. Oh well, good luck elsewhere
A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men
I literally have a cold right now that lasted longer than that one. It's not even that bad a cold either.
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
He may commit to us in the end..literally still a year before he needs to make a final choice..Urban knows OSU has the best facilites and staff in the country...he needs more time and freedom to figure it out...actually he did the honorable thing here so the staff doesn't use up a spot for him for someone else who really wants to commit early. I know Coach Meyer and the staff are probably appreciative he did this now instead of November/December.
Do. Not. Care.
Follow me @jaythesportsguy
Must have got caught up in the moment with the other two guys committing last weekend. No biggie.
batter up------harris/mcdowell
knucklehead
Eh, he doesn't want to be a Buckeye. Small beans. An extra scholarship to go sign someone who really wants to come to Columbus.
"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest.Civil.War.Analogy.Ever
Just so we're clear. Marshall basically says that Ohio State is leading. I mean, who last Saturday would not have been happy with that?
I still think he ends up a Buckeye later this spring - which doesn't make it any less of a coup than it was this past Sunday.
No offense to this kid...but there are several other guys out there I would rather have at this point.
If he is in this class...so be it...if he isn't so be it...
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Limited numbers. Many guys wanting in. We all know how it works. One goes out the door, a better one comes in. Whether or not they will own it or not the ttun fans were saying he was someone they would take but weren't that high on, of course. But that would be taking the high road for them. Impossible.
Didn't know enough about the kid to care if we got him or not. Guess I don't have to worry about that now. I know Michigan fans will tout this as some sort of victory, though I guess they need to take any they can get (whether real or perceived). I do find these commitments/decommitments to be quite annoying though. Obviously if you can decommit in 3 days you weren't even close to being sold on the school. It's an embarrassment for them and makes them look like children. Oh, and before anyone says it, I don't buy the "he's only 17" garbage. Seems many people forget how worldy you truly were at 17.
I teach and coach (basketball) high schoolers. They are very fickle.
Limited schollies, and a lot of talent wanting to jump on board, I think he gets left behind. He had his chance, time to move on.
Good player's make the play's they're suppose to, great player's make the play's they're NOT !!!
This is actually funny that it happened this quickly. Like JaxBuckeye above, didn't even know who the kid was and he committed and left that quickly. Way too far to go to even be concerned. If he wants to be here he will re-up, if not, the next one comes in. He's a kid in todays media hyped world.
Guys, it is a loss. The staff wanted him clearly and was willing to let him committ early in a limited class size. We'll see how it plays out but I see some double speak here compared to when he signed. I asked the question whether or not he was a "work in process" like Taco and I got creamed for it. I didn't even diss the kid and now no one cares?
He committed on emotion, all these kids do. If anyone can remember that far back you all were making the same silly back and forth decisions. Remember last year we lost a great LB and a good LB and I think we ended up with a a pair that are better. I'd love to get this guy back if the staff are obviously so high on him and it is clearly strategic.
Yes, if I heard the Kerry Coombs speech directed at me and shook Urban's bling-covered hand (Championship rings, to be clear), I'd probably pull the string, too. It would be hard not to. Like a timeshare presentation.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
~Bo Schembechler
I had to laugh at that one dude. If a post makes me laugh, I always thumb up. A lot of people get sucked in to timeshares. I personally did, but I love mine. They say it's a bad investment, but I like going on vacation and getting the 5* treatment, as opposed to staying at a Best Western.
But I wouldn't compare Urban, Coombs, Vrabel and Herman to a timeshare. Just saying.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Compared to shaking Brady Hoke's grease covered hand from the endless bottom in his KFC bucket?
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
Sorry, but everytime I hear Brady Hoke has an in home visit I get this picture in my mind..
You're gonna end up living in a van.....down by the river;-)
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Living on a steady diet of government cheese . . .
Nice one. That was a very funny skit..
All this means is that we get to have multiple daily threads on this guy from now until next signing day.
Kid needs to have a phone conversation with Vonn Bell's father.
vacuuming sucks
Well said. Someone said to the effect, we (as in everyone, not just recruits) are a brand. For good or bad you need to take that into account when you make decisions. As Vonn's father said, this reflects poorly on him. Oh, well. His life.
I think the following quote from Marshall concerning his commitment gives some insight into what may have caused his decommitment.
This statement implies an impulsive decision without the input or counsel from his parents. You know, like what most teenagers do. My guess is that post commitment, he and his parents sat down and discussed it more thoroughly. It was probably decided that if there was a little bit of doubt, it would be better to make a decommitment sooner rather than later. Some quick trips to MSU and Michigan were arranged to help make this decision, and a decommitment was made.
Some people might point to the following quote from that same comment to disagree with the above statement
As a parent, my guess is that statement probably really was along the lines, "we will support your decision no matter what, but are you sure you don't want to look at other opportunities?"
As far as the contingent that is worried about teaching kids to "keep their word." While that is a good concept, as a parent, my first concern always is "what is best for my kid", and then in this instance it would be followed by "always be honest", and then "never be afraid to admit your mistakes." Because if you follow this path with someone that you have given your word, then you will be showing them respect.
This is my interpretation of what happened with this commitment, but of course it is all conjecture. What can be said with certainty, is that this does in fact prove Urban is spot on, when saying an early commitment just means you are in a kids top three. Marshall's honesty and ability to admit his mistake just lets the rest of us in on what Urban already knew.
I remember that statement. I was also concerned about that at the time.
This is why I don't get too excited over these early commits. You know it's going to happen. If this was January, 2014, I might be a little peeved.
These kids change their minds like..., well, teenagers.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
I've never been in the "let's give this kid a break, he's only x years old..."
Most of these kids have already been given a huge break by being given a talent worth probably well over $100,000+++, scholarship, room board, food, traveling all over etc...most around them will give these star players way too many breaks over these next few years. Then wait until if they go on to dominate in college.
What most need at this age is the opposite of a break...a coach or a parent etc getting on their ass and explaining "you just gave your word and broke it...this was one of your first big chances in life to show everyone who you are and you went back on your word...don't be an idiot again...from now on most of the next coaches who do come calling are going to keep in the back of their mind that you might not be a man of your word...don't committ again until your sure jackass!". This is almost exactly what my parents would have told me or my siblings, only on a much more stern way.
I think it's what more of the kids these days need...more tough love and less coddling.
D. Anthony
I don't disagree with most of what you said. I think many of these kids are media whores. They love the attention.
Guess what? The fact that he did this to Urban Meyer and OSU just made him a hero at his high school and with his neighbors, I'm sure. If people didn't know him before up there, they know him now.
Here's my take on a lot of what's happening in the B1G, now that Urban Fricking Meyer is on the scene: the thinking around the conference goes like this, "Oh shit. Ohio State offered this kid. Let's offer him a scholly just in case he changes his mind, because if he's good enough to get an offer from them, he's good enough to get an offer from us(MSU, MU, Iowa, Wisky, etc.)."
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
Here is my problem with your take on the B1G, especially with Marshall. MSU offered Marshall on November 4th, Michigan November 29th, and tOSU January 10th. tOSU in fact is his newest offer, with his first visit to Columbus having been for The Game this past November. So to accept an offer a month after it is made and the first time you have ever seen the school was less than 3 months earlier is a rather quick decision. Throw in the fact that he didn't even consult his parents about making a commitment now, and I think you start seeing the recipe for a decommitment that probably is not media whore driven and more along the lines of an impulsive decision that now in the privacy of their own home was questioned by his responsible parents. This kid isn't trying to be a hero, he is just trying to figure out the best place to go to school and play football for him. Not for you, not for me, not for anyone but himself. In the end, he may pick tOSU or he may not, but it is his decision to make and his alone.
Blue - It sucks that we lost him, I'll say that with no shame whatsoever. I will say this, he does seem to love the attention gained from the whole thing. I'm not saying he's a bad kid or trying to be a hero, but I am saying he is enjoying his new-found notoriety...
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
Sometimes things that are lost can be found again. I would say his early commitment even if he did decommit puts tOSU as the favorite right now and everyone else has some ground to make up. I do think it is too early to to know if his recruitment will continue to be full of drama, but I understand those that may have some reservations about it. I just think it is too early to make a judgement either way.
I don't disagree that a lot of these kids love the attention, but let's not forget that the maturity level in many of these kids is severely lacking. Sometimes it takes a few years to grow up and realize what your actions look like to others.
Isn't being honest and admitting you made a mistake just as important of a lesson as keeping your word? If Urban Meyer recognizes that in the realm of recruiting, a commitment just means an endorsement of a kid's top 3 schools standing, then I don't think we can levy the whole "breaking your word" rain of fire on him. Yes, there are times when breaking your word may call into question a person's integrity, but this is not one of them.
Also, more and more coaches are getting vocal in their dislike of these early commitments, so my guess is they won't feel compelled to take a kid behind the woodshed for decommitting this early in the process, and parents are more interested in what is best for their kids, so I don't think they are going to care if their kid's decommitment hurts Meyer, Hoke, Saban, or Dantonio's feelings.
Frankly I was a bit concerned about the way he committed. He said it like it was just that easy when we all know its not. For him to sit there with everyone and just say "I want to be a buckeye" like that is all it takes, just didn't buy it really.
Good player that I would love to have on the team but didn't seem like the kind of commitment that was going to stick. Hopefully he will end up a buckeye but if not, still long way to go and as we have seen so far, lots of options that Urban will go after.
Not to mention the Dline has no immediate concerns. I think it will survive this decommit!
He needs to make the best decision for himself, I wish him luck. As for us, Jay-Z said it best:
I really don't see the hypocrisy in being happy Marshall committed and not being too concerned that he decommitted. It is early in the process. Marshall might come back on board and there is plenty of time to replace him with equal talent if necessary.
I agree. With the way Meyer recruits I can't get too upset about an early decommit. It is just too hard to believe this will hurt us in the long run. We've seen what Meyer does late in the game and he is clutch.
There is a difference in being happy he committed but not concerned he left. It is the over praise of his abilities "Oh he must be great because Meyer let him commit early" to "He's not that great, no worries" kinda thing. There is a difference between overly stating his ability then saying he is nothing special, compared to being happy he is here but not worried he left. That is the hypocricy.
I was happy he was here, but I am not concerned he left either. I think Meyer has proven he can get equal or better talent in these situations, but it is still nice to have a bird in the hand. He clearly is talented and Meyer thinks he has a high ceiling if he was willing to let him committ early. It is still a loss, but not one to freak out about just yet.
Marshall could still end up in this class. He just pulled the trigger way too fast on his commitment. Yeah it stinks that it only lasted 3 days, but everyone just chill. What happens if in 3 months or 6 months he re-commits? Will everyone welcome him back to the fold or are you gonna still be pissed about a junior in high school who is trying to make a really big decision. I say go ahead and take your time kid, and if OSU is the place for you, great. If it's not, good luck wherever you end up.
I sorta respect him for doing this early. HE got swept up a little bit. Better for him to let the staff know and look around than to doubt and look around last second.
2014 is a long time away when you are young...I hope he makes a good choice which suits him. Best of luck to you Mr. Marshall.
From what I read, don't think anyone on here is losing sleep over this, though I imagine the Mi-shit-gan fans are painting that picture. As someone stated, we lost Anzalone only to get likely better recruits. No worries. Really it's about this kid. By that I mean, he is the one that had a seat on the bus. Might not be there come 2014. That risk is on him.
I believe Urban has said when a kid verbals it means we are in his top three... Gotta keep on recruiting them
Well... Marshall should pick the right school for him and if doesn't think that it's Ohio State, so be it. Best of luck to him whereever he ends up. Kudos for him doing it this early since it's so early in the process so we don't cut ties with other kids because the staff is expecting him to be a Buckeye.
We'll replace him with someone just as good if not better.
He could still come back around and recommit. However, no need to worry. We are in Jalyn Holmes top 3 and Dylan Thompson has us near his top... and it's only February.
Give the kid a chance to determine what's best for him. Remember when we were 17 ?
I can remember thinking my high school sweetheart was the only person I'd ever love...until I went to college and saw all the co-eds. I don't mind early commitments but I take them in perspective. A year in the life of 17 year-old is a lot different than a year in the life of a 30 year-old. This is the first time most of them are really getting a good look at the world outside their day-to-day life of school and friends.
But but but what about a Gentleman's Agreement!
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
I know the kid is 17, but come on ... committing a year before NSD and a week before you take other visits? Shows a lack of matureity and/or guidance he is getting from his parents.
And I'm not sweating the 2014 class one bit. I've said this a number of times. Wanna be a Buckeye, welcome. If not, no problem. This includes Marshall even in teh current state. However, as the class fills up, he's one that might find himself on the outisde looking in.
Got to admit. I did love the fact that we picked him from scUM land.
I'm much more worried about the guidance when a kid is committed for months and months and then decides he wants to look around. That is showing a lack of responsibility and commitment IMO. Knee jerk reactions are the norm for 17 year-olds.
Wow, a 17 year old kid not making mature decisions... I'm blown away with surprise!?
It's February 2013. Signing day is February 2014. If this happened in January 2014 then I'd be worried. I didn't even know who he was before he committed. He's now decommitted four days later? I'm not really concerned all that much.
Oh well...move onto the next DE...say McDowell.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
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People crack me up! The decommitment wasn't surprising because it came so early???? IT WAS 3 DAYS! I'm not slamming the kid, just saying a 3 day commitment, even for someone 17 years old is hilarious. Even at 17, I think I probably give it a little bit of time before decommitting just so I don't look foolish and wishy washy. I'm not saying that's how the kid is, just that, when you commit someplace on Sunday then take it away Wednesday simply because you visit another school it doesn't look good.
I don't care where here ends up, if it's here or otherwise. I wish him the best. You don't have to be PC about it and say c'mon he's 17 cut him slack. When I was 17....... The situation is funny, and people should be able to say so without being ridiculed too much about it.
Didn't Deshaun Thomas commit to the buckeyes, decommit, and then recommit at a later date? If he wants to be a buckeye he will be back. If he doesn't want to be a buckeye it's better if he's not.
Not surprised and most definitely not upset. He's a young kid who made a rushed decision. He didn't he's not considering Ohio State all together. In fact, they're still his #1 choice. I would rather him have decommited now and checked out some other things and then re-commit later after he was a little more aware of what else was out there. Even if he doesn't recommit, there are plenty of DL available for Urban to nab.
I bet he ends up recommitting later. Let's just lay off of the kid, he's 17, he's making the biggest decision of his life. That's like proposing to a girl after one date.
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lol.... Do you have someone you'd like to discuss with the group? Hhhhmm?
Marshall visited msu last weekend and is going to the MSU/IU game tonight. Last week, he went to the ttun/msu game in east lansing as well. Long way to go with this one, but him spending so much time in East Lansing has me nervous.
I wouldn't be too nervous..for one, getting to watch some of those basketball games would be hard to say no too.. second, if he goes elsewhere I don't think he is the type of recruit you really miss...now with that said, staff wanted him and he is a very good player and could one day become great..but I liken it to Lewis Neal, a commitment then a fairly quick decomitment, and he too was a very good prospect but not a head turner..in the end his decomitment made room for Johnson or Mitchell most likely..this "14 class will be one of the best in the nation, then the handcuffs come off and the staff gets 3 more scholarships..just imagine that