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If Hall redshirts, I think this gives guys like Eze and Jalin more time to learn the system.  At the very least, they will need to be available as a backup to Hall because they'll only be one play away from seeing the field.

How about some positive LB news now!

4Dorr - We could sure use some of that! 

I believe this is something that can only be a good thing. Jordan hasnt really played all season due to injuries. Hall is a type of playmaker that another year in Urban's offense, & he could explode . Not only does it give him another year in the offense, but gives the whole offense another year after a year of experience to really take this offense to the next level which will also help Jordan next season.

Hyde seems to have the HB position on lockdown right now & I believe he is doing a fine job, so everything is fine at HB as I see Hall getting alot of PT at the slot receiver position next year.

Only way I could see this being a bad thing is that it might take away a scholarship (Hall graduating)  that could of went to the 2013 class which will prolly now go to the 2014 class (good thing).

I dont mind the loss of that schollie because I look at it like this, even if it takes 1 scholarship away that we could of used to bring in a guy like Elder, Timmons, or another playmaker or w/e for 2013, Hall is a proven player. Hall being a proven playmaker, Id take him over the gambling chances of another recruit.

1 year of success for Hall > 1 scholarship player for 2013 that is unproven.

I say this because Hall will help bring success to this offense & like I said, he is a proven playmaker, he can make plays & every week we know that Hall will help us win games on the offensive side of the ball. Now a recruit (could be any position) highly recruited or only a 3/2 star player isnt a proven player. Just because its a 5* recruit dosnt mean he will bring success to this team.

I agree @TennBuckeye19. 

Meyer will use that depth and versatility to his advantage.  If you've got guys like Elliott, Hall, Marshall, etc. all on the field at the same time, there is the possibility that any could find themself in the backfield getting a carry, taking a pitch, running a route, or whatever else Meyer and Herman come up with. 

Or, if the freshmen aren't quite ready to be thrust into major playing time right away, Hall can be more or less their mentor, teaching them the ropes and the in's/out's of the offense.

I always find it interesting when you redshirt a guy at this point in his career.  I imagine he was on schedule to graduate at some point this year.  Do they approach him like, hey budddddy, wanna go to grad school?  And if so, what would you like to take?  By the way, don't worry about taking the GRE.  Or is there another path to keeping them at school?

@hail

I think Hall has changed his attitude and become a better player under the new system.  He has big play ability and I would love to see it.

Hail,

A lot of fans overvalue incoming recruits.  I would love for all the top recruits to come in and be good enough to beat out guys like Jordan Hall but it often doesn't work that way unless they are Beanie Wells, Ted Ginn or Maurice Clarett types of talents.  And in that case I would still prefer to have Hall as a spell back over the other young guns for depth purposes.  There's not much downside.

Hail, I don't mind getting Hall back because he can also help the frosh learn the system.  Beyond that, when he's healthy, he can make people miss and be a valuable part of this Offense.

Has Dunn fallen out of the mix?  What's the deal with him?

The kid is a Buckeye and if he needs to get a medical redshirt then get him one.  I look at it like one big family.  How can you turn your back on one of your own family members just because he got injured?  If you think we shouldn't do it just because you want an extra recruit then you haven't coached or played on a true team.  You don't turn your back on your brothers and it's not as if he hasn't earned his right to be there! 

Just keep Hall away from the dog Sh*t in his yard in the off-season please !!!

For Jordan I think it is a positive.  Weapons, weapons, weapons.  The kid will really know the offense like the back of his hand with another Spring and pre-season under his belt.  Always good to have guys with experience and game.

That being said I caution people who are acting like this is a foregone conclusion.  Until I hear Hall say that this is something that he wants to do I will consider these discussion as pure speculation.

I can only trust the staff on this one. Hey must really think Hall is special to ry and keep him o another year. Obviously this year was a bust for him with everything that happened medically and for it to be your senior season sucks. It does push one scholarship back a year, which could be bad with limited numbers, but we have to remember that it helps us now more.

Not bragging but I had a feeling things were heading this way weeks ago : FORUM TOPIC  Should/Could Jordan Hall get an injury redshirt?  2 weeks 2 days ago

If he redshirts then he needs to wear steel toed work boots unless on the football field or working out.

If Jordan Hall was our stud RB at the beginning of this year, & due to freak incidents this year he's able to carry over w/ a red shirt...  I see absolutely NO down side to this.  And frankly,  the staff has much more knowledge & experience over they they want to handle it.   So,  Yaaaa Urbs! 

I think many of us had that feeling D.A. once Jordan got hurt again.  I for one hope he does take the redshirt and it's approved.

Never can have too many playmakers. Just imagine the speed in this offense next year.

QB- Brax

RB- Zeke and Hall

Slot/Rb- J Marshall

WR- Devin smith, philly brown, ryan timmons

Haha I realize that Elliot and Marshall are great talents, but I don't see any incoming freshman getting significant playing time over any starter.  If Hall is redshirted, we still have 

RB- Hall/Hyde

Backup: Smith/Dunn

WR:  Smith

Backup: Thomas

WR: Brown

Backup: Reed

WR: Spencer

Backup: Fields

While I'm not saying Zeke and Jalin won't ever get in, but I just do not see them getting any significant time.  Jacobs I think will get a redshirt as will Timmons/Elder if we end up getting either of them.

just adds more talent on O...if any incoming frosh are good enough, they will play

I'm not a big fan of this move. I feel like were really limited with numbers, our backfield is getting real crowded real fast, and I hope it doesn't cause one of our young guys to transfer that could have been a big contributer for 2-3 years. I've never been very impressed with Hall carrying the ball. I think he's had one game over 100 yards and it was vs UAB. I like his lateral quickness, but he has no breakaway speed which pretty much eliminates him from being the "home run threat" Urbans been looking for. He also seems to go down pretty easy when guys hit him verses guys like Hyde and Smith who can run over people. I know he's not a power back like those two but reguardless you have to be able to break a tackle here and there which I haven't seen much out of him. If the staff thinks its the right move I'll trust them they get paid the big bucks to make these decisions. Go Bucks!

By my count we have 21 seniors leaving if you exclude Hall and possibly early entry from Hankins which would make 22 exiting plus any other transfers or attrition that could still happen (Jamie Wood medical hardship rumors come to mind).  Since we already have a cushion due to attrition of 6 (if Urban's 76 scholarships count is correct compared to NCAA limit of 82 for us), that means we have 27 or 28 scholarships free for next year via recruiting or incoming transfers (JuCo) without Jordan Hall leaving.  Numbers don't seem to be an issue scholarship-wise.  Depth on the other hand, which Hall would help provide is an issue for this team.  I don't want to rely on freshmen to compete for a national title.  If one steps up like Clarett then play them, but this is not a bad thing for OSU if Hall stays another year.  And if it's because you think Hall isn't a superstar RB then sure he isn't but he will likely be one of our best next year due to other guys just not being developed enough (unless Dunn or Smith beats him out then we can play a big committee of guys, fine by me).

Freshman don't always work out especially year 1 and there are many examples on this team of  that fact. Urban said guys don't come to Ohio State to redshirt and not contribute  so if they can (Spence) then they will play

SEC- i think that marshall becomes the harvin player and rushes the ball a lot. U can play shelton gibson and taivon jacobs on the outside because they are lanky and have straight line speed. Elder and timmons would be better on the inside cause they are shifty and super quick. I would take speed and quickness over height any day of the week

I continue to be surprised by the number of posters who hear the name Jordan Hall and think "Meh".  Folks, as good as Carlos Hyde has looked, the fact is that Jordan Hall beat him out as the starting tailback and showed every sign, before getting injured at MSU, of getting the bulk of the running back carries.

Granted, he doesn't have elite speed, but some of the greatest running backs of all time didn't either.  He does have a very good combination of elusiveness, balance and power, and can catch the ball really well also.  And don't underestimate the significance of understanding the offense and simply not making mistakes.  It's quite clear that the coaches trust him completely in this offense.

Of course, the problem is he's been injured for most of this year, and truth be told, I think he was slowed significantly for most of the second half of last year also. (Hence the opinion that he's too slow when in reality he's likely been hobbled but still able to positively contribute with his other skills).  He showed some really good pop early in the year last season (against Miami and Colorado) that we simply didn't see the rest of the season.

So is getting Jordan Hall back for a renewed, hopefully 100% healthy, second Senior season worth the scholarship?  HELL FREAKING YEAH! :)

I totally trust Urban's judgement, and he says Hall is the only one close to having the skills needed to play the Harvin role. He must be better than what I've judged.

I'm really surprised how many fans are for J.Hall returning. I thought for sure pthe majority wouldn't like it. Glad I was mistaken.

It is hard to read some of these comments.  This should not be about incoming recruits being better or not, or Hall costing someone a scholarship.  This should be about a 22 year old kid who has given years to the program and helped it in so many ways having an injury and wanting to come back another year.  If the incoming recruits are "better" than they will take some snaps away.  At RB, it's about more than just carrying the ball. 

I don't know what Hall will decide is best for him, but if he wants to redshirt, I see absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be granted if it's legal.

Get over the shiny new car that you may have next year, and remember that Hall was they only one who could move the ball last year at Miami, he helped us almost win the game at Purdue last year, and he scored a great TD against Florida to give us a chance.

Edit: A few of the comments at the top were those I was talking about; as i finished reading, many more were positive in regards to Hall.  Cheers to everyone haha

Nothing wrong with redshirting a talented freshman who doesn't have much of an opportunity to see the field because of high quality upperclassmen ahead of him.  I have faith the Urban will put his best players on the field.  I see no downside to another year with Hall.