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Comment 27 Mar 2015

Awesome. Good thought. Indirectly, this is a post about how great the state of Ohio State football is in.  Urban Meyer came into a much better climate and situation than Hairball.  It's the offseason. I'm bored. It's Friday...there is no football game tomorrow.  Sigh.

Comment 27 Mar 2015

Great point! I've always wondered why we could never recruit a pro-caliber QB...and how we still dominate in spite of it. 

Comment 27 Mar 2015

Good point. I was thinking that this morning, but wanted to press deeper than just leadership at the top.  

True, the right head coach is important. But look at Rich Rod...winning at WVU & UA.  Michigan? Some of those factors really kept him from winning.  He's a very good head coach but couldn't win at UM.

TTUN will be back in some sort of fashion, and Harbaugh is a very good coach, if not great one. But perhaps the road back is tougher than TTUN fans think.  

Comment 21 Feb 2015

Doran Grant won't last until round 4. 

I could also see Belicheck drafting Evan Spencer in the late rounds. He loves those team guys who do the little things right.

I could see Huerman going to NE, too. 

Comment 20 Feb 2015

The author of this article got it right.  How can you argue with a staring 5 of NBA players? Had Oden been able to be healthy, he'd be an all star, but the talent was there.

I love Craft, 3eibeler, Lighty, Dials, Lauderdale, Thomas, Buckets...but talent wise...they're not in the league.  

Comment 18 Feb 2015

The knock on him from insiders was that he didn't really have the desire for pro-football. In college he was so much stronger and better than everyone his unique personality didn't come through.  The NFL is a different beast. Seems like it never fit Vernon's unique personality. People just said if he was played at the right position and he had the desire/focus for NFL - he'd dominate. I hope he put it all together and is focused and gets a good shot.  

This is not a critique of him, I love #50.  He just liked other good things/interests in life than the NFL grind.  

Comment 16 Feb 2015

Price of paying players has skyrocketed in the SEC as they seek to keep up with Urban Meyer and the resurgent B1G.

Comment 16 Feb 2015

To think we had Orlando Pace and Korey Stringer on the same line. Wow.

Comment 14 Feb 2015

Nice. Goes along with that time-tested American saying: 

"If you can't beat them, change the rules." 

:/ sarcasm.

Comment 11 Feb 2015

Verlon Reed reminded me of Chris Vance. He may even be more talented. He was similar in style to Michael Thomas, as I recall. At least that's the type of reliever I thought he'd become: great hands & body control, good speed, making the tough catches. Glad he has a shot at the NFL.  I was sad when he transferred.

Comment 11 Feb 2015

Zenshade, I appreciate you representing those of us who don't have the time or even inclination to read every post before posting. I think we think of this forum as a rather impromptu place to continue an informal conversation. 

Move always been a "if I'm not interested I won't comment" type person. I see many duplicate topics on here, doesn't bother me. 

I wish some in the 11w community could see nuance, or other parts of the story that haven't been answered it are different angles, etc.  I didn't post this to rehash an opinion about Mike Weber per as, his emotions, his HS coach, etc. 

I was truly interested in the ethics of the situation: what makes down thing right or wrong?  It's a gray area in recruiting and it doesn't seem the conversation really focused on ethics.  Everything seemed to be focused on guessing at what a teenager meant.  Some fans seem to think OSU could never be wrong while others were embarrassed by the bad PR.

But was it unethical? I don't think so and I gave my rationale as why it was not based on what we know. I am willing to say is could be unethical if certain info was ever discovered. 

Comment 11 Feb 2015

I tried to bring up ethics in a separate post. I agree with you that we should question tOSU without fan bias.

I suspect Drayton knew there was interest and at least a potential interview. 

However, if he didn't "have the job" I don't think he did anything unethical.  A possible job need not be disclosed. An actual job should be. 

Comment 10 Feb 2015

I ask because Birm has said this is a gray area in recruiting.

im asking what makes it gray and what would make it more black and white?

mostly only heard opinions about non-facts and teenagers tweets/emotions.  Ethics addresses behavior.  

Comment 10 Feb 2015

Precisely.  It matters because I do think that without all (or any of) the facts, Wilcher's response was unethical. It was effectively slander. 

Was it "in the heat of the moment?" Sure. Did he want to look like a good Michigan man and Detroit protector. Yes.  Was there a conspiracy beyond this? Don't know.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

If Drayton had reached an agreement before signing day that he would be the next coach of the RB for the Bears, I do believe this should be disclosed. 

If he was a top candidate to be interviewed but with no guarantee of a job, I believe this didn't need to be disclosed.

Thats where the right and wrong of it lie for me.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

I'm not asking what Drayton should have done. I'm asking what basis do we judge this situation, ethically.

Most people debated what Mike Weber really meant by hurt, or speculated on intent to deceive, etc.  

Besides being a fan who hopes there was no unethical behavior, I found myself wondering what would make me think of there was a wrongdoing.  

Bottom line is, I don't think "potentials" need to be disclosed, but "actuals" do. And I would apply this consistently to Michigan. In fact, while Michigan did not disclose they had another running back, they did make his signing public. To me, they could have unethically asked him to wait until after Wver made his decision. They did not, so I think they're clear too on the same logic.

just wonder how we make ethical decisions around here between the "urban lied" and "urban wins" crowd.

Comment 10 Feb 2015

Great research. Thanks. It helps in defining the ethical question.

i don't think Weber's hurt feelings or Wilcher'a overreaction or Michigan's grandstanding and stirring up negative PR are THE issue. I don't care about that. I care about ethics.