Agreed, I think they put J.T. in and got way too conservative. I mean I just don't understand the lack of faith in the OL coming to the point where we just decide not to throw aggressively when the exact opposite approach was taken after last year's VT game.
Well to be fair, J.T. beat him for the position last year and when you listen to how the players responded to him starting, they all seemed to say they felt like their chemistry was better with J.T.
I'd like to point out that Cardale was actually really, really average during the National Title run which is why I constantly emphasize that it was Ezekiel Elliott and the SLOBS along with Tom Herman's play calling that one those games. Cardale was clutch on third down - something we haven't been all season, but as far as completion percentage and ball security, Cardale actually wasn't that great at all, especially against Alabama.
We saw the near-disasters at the mesh point of the read-option which is the staple of Urban's Offense. They tried to change the offensive philosophy for Cardale which meant taking away a pillar, but we soon found out that without Zeke running wild, the offense looked pedestrian without a legit deep threat, plus the Indiana game proved that the gap blocking schemes worked without a deep threat and we could still run against stacked boxes.
The team went back to the zone-read because it works and makes the offense less predictable in the run game, especially while the passing game was floundering regardless of the QB.
IMO, the switch certainly gave them a safety blanket within the run, but they abused it. The passing game never got fixed, and J.T. should've never lost the starters job to an injury. The guy was highly efficient and on pace to have 5,000+ yards of total offense by himself. Losing Devin Smith, Evan Spencer and Jeff Herueman's edge blocking, and Tom Herman's play calling hurt this team more than anything. Recently Urban was talking about how much he leaned on Tom Herman who got Cardale ready for those games and played to his strengths. Tim Beck is just flat out trash.
Good Lord, I had no idea it got that bad on here... I don't even know what to say to that... Dolo certainly didn't deserve any of that nonsense.
I didn't see too many people blaming Cardale solely for the offense being bad. Just the fact that when he's in the game, there's no read-option and with the pass plays they did call, he'd often hold the ball too long or make a poor decision and turn the ball over.
It would also change the rhythm of the offense, because we'd often nix going jet or tempo.
Zeke was still getting his 100+ yards and the Indiana game finally proved that Zeke could get 200+ yards rushing without a deep threat opening up the running lanes.
So in a sense, without a real passing game or deep threat, Cardale's strength wasn't utilized and his weakness hamstrung an effective element of the offense.
Still that all goes back to the offensive coaches for not realizing this sooner.
Damn that, Urban should've took over at halftime and took some chances. Take deep drops or throw from the shotgun and the Oline gets beat on a few plays, they get beat on a few plays, but give your skill guys a chance to compete!!!
One thing I miss about Tom Herman was the fact he would have plays scripted to run together. He'd have a series of passes or runs setup and got the offense into a rhythm and we would be on a roll. It seemed like we only saw that twice this year against VA Tech and when the QBs were alternating (I imagine Urban was very much involved for those).
But yes, there's no reason to have all the skill players on Offense returning save Heuerman, Spencer, and Smith - and have the offense be as vanilla and anemic as it has been. I think that squarely falls on Beck if he's the primary playcaller...but Urban has to trust his guys... it's amazing that Zeke also pointed out that the gap-scheme plays they ran were more effective and I don't know why we ever go away from gap blocking.
Passing play calls aren't aggressive enough, but I honestly think we recruited too many athletes and not enough legit WRs. A lot of the kids we have are "best player/athlete on the field" types who you just get the ball to and let them go, but not true WRs, so I hope the incoming classes can change that.
Cardale doesn't deserve an apology for when he played poorly no more than J.T. does when he played poorly. The play-calling sucked since the Rutgers game. It's ridiculous. Our OCs didn't have any great plays scripted, we have no "money" plays, and they've hampered both Cardale and J.T.
Cardale wouldn't have changed a damn thing. Shut that shit up, nobody's got time for that.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was .099; Wouldn't .99 be fairly hammered given the limit is .08?
I watched it...it's cut and edited and the TMZ narrative tries to frame it as if he was using his pseudo-celebrity to get out of it; but really he sounded more incredulous about the situation...I remember being arrested for the first (and only) time over a bench warrant for a ticket I didn't pay and all I did was ask questions...I thought my life was over and I was about J.T.'s age at the time...but he obviously had a lot more to lose and a lot more to be responsible for...he sounded scared and desperate more than that haughty or arrogant...not really a bad look for him at all if we ignore TMZ's bullshit.
I still don't know how that guy has a regular job on radio...I can't tell if he's dumb on purpose or just plain dumb, but he makes me cringe way more often than he should be allowed to, especially when he talks about the NBA (which he clearly knows nothing about).
"My parents loved Urban Meyer," he said.
Certainly one of the most important aspects of the visit! I hope the good guys get another one to add to the Buckeye Family.
Probably not, I believe he's running for city council right now...
I like all the old school guys answers. Pull him over, have him explain his scenario. Run his record. See that he's a clean, good kid who made an honest mistake, make him park it and give him a ride home. It's really that simple.
Laws are laws, but there's gotta be room for common sense and morality - otherwise with that "laws are laws" attitude America wouldn't exist.
I think it's being overanalyzed and the offense overstated. Cardale is the backup. J.T. is the starter. Cardale, no matter how he plays, is not going to usurp the job from J.T. like this, because it's a fluke, much in the same way Sam Hubbard & Parris Campbell didn't usurp Jalin or Bosa at the beginning of the year when they screwed up. They were playing against Hawaii the next week, and the team has rallied behind J.T. on twitter saying he made mistake and nobody is perfect.
Cardale will go out and do his job; J.T. will still support everyone and do that leader thing he does, then he'll play against Illinois and get back in rhythm in time for MSU and Michigan.
I'm calling it now - there will be no more #QBGeddon - it died a few weeks ago and Halloween isn't resurrecting it.
I laughed at both.
So much this^^^ ; but for the love of God this team has made some mental errors off the field this season. I mean it essentially looks like whatever Dame Webb did got him suspended for the season. Then lest we forget the beginning of the season where Corey Smith, Jalin Marshall, Joey Bosa, and Dontre Wilson were suspended for the first game of the season.
The good news is that they all played against Hawaii (except Dontre for injury reasons). So Cardale goes in against Minnesota, but I fully expect J.T. to earn his way back in the next two weeks.
As a fellow Buckeye I could never allow you to do that, but since you're calling out the latest Johnny Ginter post; let me post some of the comments.
"Count me as part of the camp that places a lot of the reason behind that on changes in personnel, especially after he lost his deep threat safety net that goes by the name Devin Smith. Smith, who accounted for 269 of Cardale's 755 passing yards in that magical three game stretch last season, probably made Cardale look a little more polished than he really was. That, and winning a got dang natty, might've set our expectations way too high for a guy who had been buried on the depth chart before a Lemony Snicket-esque series of unfortunate events."
There's nothing untrue or unfair about this comment. I'm among those who thought that a lot of Buckeye fans were suffering from recency bias given the fact that the numbers Cardale were putting up this season we're fairly similar to the playoff run, minus the timely 3rd Down Conversions and Devin Smith. The passing offense was feast or famine with Cardale in the CFP and the regular season and I'm also among those who believe Zeke and the SLOBS were the primary reason we won it all amidst the entire team peaking as Cardale took the reigns.
Even in the post about the Blackout, the majority of posters are defending Cardale and deriding fans who were tweeting horrible things at him and even blaming the play calling (which I personally didn't agree with) and making the sentiment that Cardale did what he had to do, but the offense is simply better with Barrett at the helm.
For every example of some asshat unfairly criticizing Cardale there's at LEAST 2 or 3 replies refuting it. When the negative tweets came to Cardale before that, every post in this thread was defending him and blasting the idiots who were responsible.
So I'm not sure if you're using hyperbole, but I'm sure you're not right on this one...but please, please, please, please, please, don't ever bet your fandom, especially at risk of being one of TTUN.