I made the same face he did after he made that play...I'm pulling for the Cavs, but he put Delly on skates that play. It was nasty!
I mean...it's true...it's amazing how much these Buckeyes are about the TEAM first. I'd bet J.T. feels the same about Braxton, but it's not lost on these guys that they won and lost as a TEAM first.
I personally hate how QBs get all the credit and most of the blame, but when Cardale himself says it flatly, that's indicative of his respect for what J.T. did and a lot of people have deduced the same about Braxton - when Braxton was 100% neither J.T or Cardale beat him outright; When it was J.T. and Cardale, J.T. beat Cardale for the position outright; and these were coaching staff decisions. Ultimately the best QB will win.
I definitely think it's within reach. I mean according to the experts we were ahead of schedule winning this one, but honestly, I feel like we would've beat Notre Dame if we were eligible that year, then if we have the next two play out similarly that would've been 2 in 3 years and this year, while "The Grind" is a thing, I think we'll be even better and have a real shot to repeat this year.
Is the ground work there? Definitely. Now that we have a "rockstar" coach with an excellent staff and program which is essentially being supplemented by the Ohio, Florida, Georgia, Texas football hotbeds along with the East PA/MD/VA/NJ/NY areas they're recruiting profile will only allow them get a few more 5 stars than we're used to, but the right guys with a competitive streak who go hard on and off the field. Ohio State will definitely become more of a regular in the narrative now for winning it all, especially if we repeat.
A couple things are different. Cam was never faced the music from the university for that. He was only arrested, not suspended or expelled by the school. There was rumors he was caught academic cheating (which is what Golson sat out a year for), but he left Florida of his own free will before any charges came down from the university.
Because Braxton didn't have 4 of his 5 OL sign in the NFL and Philly Brown wasn't the 3rd leading receiver on Carolina Panthers with the highest average per catch on the team, with a nigh unstoppable RB behind him?
The lack of weapons argument isn't really a great one. Even against cupcake teams, we saw this offense run much more efficiently with Kenny G and people questioned it then. Everyone seemed to touch the ball, there were more slants, crossing routes, etc. Routinely 6 to 8 different receivers getting the ball, etc.
I don't think it's delusion, I think it's duality. We can argue that these younger players are more athletic, but we can't necessarily argue they're "better".
Man that was Burger, Booker, & Kwon who got took on that move...still fundamentally sound (not losing contain)
It's largely because Blatt isn't technically a rookie...he's well respected overseas having won a bunch of titles in his 20 something odd years coaching, (I think he even coached Mosgov in Russia) and it was LeBron who largely got credit for the trades, and also LeBron who shoulders the load of being the leader on the team and getting guys to buy in....
I do think Blatt is probably a lot better than he gets credit for, but I definitely would've chose a coach with whom LeBron had more a relationship with who is in-sync with his basketball IQ rather than pressed by it...
Funny how that didn't seem to effect coaches like Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, Pat Riley, or Red Auerbach... I wonder what changed?
I wouldn't say Barrett is not a transcendent player, I mean the guy only carried the team on his back on a strained MCL in overtime AT Penn State during a white-out; completely dismantled the vaunted Michigan State defense; re-wrote the record books by erasing Drew Brees single season TD record, Troy Smith's single season TD record, and was on pace to rush for over 1,000 yards AND erase Joe Germaine's 3,330yd passing record.
Cardale's legend is a product of TEAM success, not because he unquestionably the reason why the Buckeyes won those games; he was NOT; the entire team peaked at the end of the season; the Defense was lights out and creating turnovers, the Offensive Line was probably the best ever from an efficiency standpoint at the end the season, and Ezekiel Elliott was unstoppable (and NO it wasn't because of Cardale's arm strength, Wisky, Bama, & Oregon ALL had their safeties in the box to stop Zeke which is why our WRs had more one on one opportunities.)
I'm happy for Cardale as a Buckeye, but we can't pretend that J.T. Barrett didn't have the best 1st season as a starter EVER by far and it wasn't even close. All because Cardale MANAGED 3 games...people ignore all of his mistakes, his turnovers, his inability to execute the read option, etc. because WINNING helps mask a lot.
I'd personally wager that we'd steamrolled Wisconsin, Alabama, and Oregon even worse if Barrett was on the field because he recognizes fronts and is able to audible, plus he's a more elusive threat running and proved he doesn't go down easy.
The argument that the threat of Cardale's arm strength stretches defenses so much more than that of J.T. or Braxton, has its pros and cons. I'm not sure I buy it. It could be that the team was peaking at just the right time - at nearly every position. After all, the defense was playing their best ball in the post-season, too.
I'm just glad that other people have the common sense to realize this. The whole "arm strength" thing is a hindsight argument because at no point in the postseason was Cardale the preeminent threat (and really, what 3rd string QB would be?) It's only because the offense managed to convert on 3rd downs at a ridiculous clip (situations the offense doesn't want to be in) and the whole team peaked that his mistakes and fairly inefficient play (especially the Alabama game) was masked behind winning.
If we compare the numbers on deep balls, J.T. actually has the longer TD throws (and I find it funny that when the QB competition was mentioned, people only gushed over Cardale throwing 74 yards, but not the fact that J.T. won the accuracy competition hitting targets 20, 30, 40, & 50 yards downfield which, IMO is more important.)
Also, the numbers for J.T. vs. Braxton for a full season favor J.T. and it's not even close as Braxton's faux completion percentage would lead you to believe based on the distance of those throws, competition, and weather as the season wound down.
There was a large discussion about it in the forums when it was front and center in the media...and ultimately there were opinions across the board, myself and some other Buckeyes who share the heritage do happen to find it offensive.
You could make the argument that 2 of the 5 best players in the league were born in Akron. I think a starting line up of Steph, Westbrook, LeBron, Durant, & Davis could be seen in the next year in Rio.
People are disappointed because they thought what Manny's strengths would be enough to combat or neutralize Floyd's strengths but it was the other way around. People have sour grapes, because they can't admit that they are NOT fans of BOXING, but fans of knockouts. These same people would be bored with things like Olympic Karate, Judo, or Jujitsu, because they don't understand or don't appreciate the art form of the martial art.
MMA, is no way, shape, or form replacing Boxing. It's relative to how the NFL is the biggest thing here, and MLS Soccer is kinda meh, but Futbol is a global sport, and the same can be said of Boxing. It has a strong foothold in blue collar America, in Latin America, the Caribbean islands, Asia, & Europe. Boxing isn't going anywhere.
All this Mayweather was running stuff is just salt flavored ignorance. Learn about ring generalship people. He didn't let Pacquiao corner him or cut off the ring. He dominated center ring, threw more punches, and landed more punches and made a first ballot Hall of Famer fighter looks average.
And Mayweather was rearranging Pacquiao's jaw he whole fight. Hardly this "pitter-patter" talk of these haters.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Chad Johnson (he changed his name back), was a bench warmer because he could never learn the Patriots offense. I also thought Devin solidified his draft stock because he proved he was a good route runner at the combine.
The questions for Devin will just becoming acclimated to whatever system he's plugged into, but I wouldn't underestimate the Urban-Belichick connection in regards to Devin or even Doran Grant in the later rounds.
I don't think the question remains at all for J.T. check the stats and the game tape. He actually has longer TD passes than Cardale on go routes and we can't pretend like the kid isn't obviously the most accurate passer of the bunch and was on pace to throw for 3,500 yds and rush for 1,000 yards and then they don't call Braxton "XBrax" for nothing. All the QBs are successful in this system, but I'm speaking more to the "QB gets most of the credit and most of the blame" stigma.
The TEAM wouldn't be denied, yes they all apexed at the right moment, but it's not lost on me that Cardale, even though he was clutch, didn't really play as good as he COULD be, poor decisions, poor ball security, long 3rd downs, inability to run the read-option, were all covered up by a strong arm and deep balls to Devin Smith and Ws... He very much played like a 3rd stringer, but winning solves everything...
Team sport for sure, but both don't work at the same time...one on one coverage on the outside doesn't open up running lanes in the middle...because the safeties come up to stack the box to stop the run, and force you to beat them over the top. When you can't stop the run, you keep committing the extra defenders which in turn gives DBs less or no help (i.e. covering on an island) on the outside...
That's fair enough, but please try to have a sense of humor. People have made all kinds of parodies of this scene and in no way is it meant to incense anyone or invoke any of the awful things of that time period or that Hitler was responsible for.
And another one of Hitler expecting Oregon to beat Ohio State LOL;
Not sure if it was posted beforehand, but this is pure GOLD.
I believe that Cardale could be very good over time, but right now he's still fairly raw.
I still think many Buckeyes give him too much credit for the last three games; he was clutch absolutely, but it was EZE and the SLOBS who opened up the deep ball, not the other way around.
Imagine if Joey did stay and we got Gary...aww mann...