It's hard to imagine Cardale ever weighing 215
I don't think that was my point. Matta gets a bad rap for lack of player development. My point is simply that in college basketball there's not a ton of guys who come into college raw, develop for 4 years and become lottery picks. I was just citing our one and dones to show that matta can do what calipari can do, it's not like he's an amazing developer of talent but he still has success
That's my point. Most NBA superstars seem like they were destined for that coming out of high school. Matta has successfully taken high level recruits and kept them on the trajectory to be pros as well (see Oden, Koufos, Mullens, or Sully). I think the "lack of player development under matta" is overblown
Out of curiosity, what schools do you consider to be great developers of big men? In other words, what school takes raw players with upside and routinely turns them into pros?
They have Scott as the number 70 overall prospect
This was my exact lineup (see above). I suspect KBD could replace Loving but I'm hopeful that Loving will fill a leadership role as the elder statesman of the group
Sully stayed an extra year and developed more of an outside game, Deshaun stayed 3 years and improved his court vision and his game off the bounce. There's also guys like David Lighty, Diebler, and Lenzelle Smith who improved markedly. Not every basketball player that comes to Ohio State can turn into an all American and first round draft prospect. These guys are all developing, again it may not be as much as you want and I assume a lot of people determine "development" based on how a guy's jump shot improves but anyone who knows basketball knows there is so much more to it than that. I'm not arguing that Thad is second to none in player development but to say that it doesn't exist under Thad is just wrong
Jaquan Lyle, kam, loving, Jae'sean, giddens
Pretty much everyone develops and gets better under Matta. Go back and look at Shannon, Slam, and Amir's numbers as freshmen and compare them to their senior year. Is it as much development as we want? Maybe not. But to say there is "zero" development is absurd.
I chose Turner as an example because he is a recent guy who was in the nearest position to what D'Angelo is in now. He could've gone pro after his sophomore year and elected to come back. End result was an improved draft stock, national player of the year, and a bigger first contract.
Evan Turner would like a word with you
Call up urban to give the prematch talk, it's a sure thing
If my mom blogged about me as a 19-year-old it'd be incomprehensible strings of text from the repeated pounding of her skull into the keyboard.
Enjoy him in The Scarlet and Grey while you can
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/relatedvideos?id=12508599&backText=Video%20Hub%20-%20ESPN&back=http%3A%2F%2Fm.espn.go.com%2Fgeneral%2Fvideo%3Fvid%3D12508599%26src%3Ddesktop%26rand%3Dref~%257B%2522ref%2522%253A%2522http%253A%252F%252Fm.facebook.com%2522%257D%26ex_cid%3DespnFBI love the bench reaction in that picture, speaking of which, this video of bench reactions is pretty awesome
...collision at the plate, outfielders running into each other
The Yum! Center is basically a giant bar. Beer, bourbon, and everything in between. They also have a ton of ads and promotionals during every timeout
Skyline is delicious. Trust in Urban
I predict the commentariat proves once again it is too mighty for such a limited supply
The fact that we play two point guards will help. I'm not sure who will win but I'd be shocked if Slam doesn't get a few highlights in transition
Exactly, they are great glue guys who have been put into a position expecting them to perform offensively beyond their natural capabilities. Someone who understands basketball can appreciate them for what they bring to the table
So you're saying it's great to be a buckeye?
Not to mention that they are a couple great guys who represent the University well
Guys that play with consistent effort and take pride in their defense. Not everyone can be a superstar and dominate offensively but you'll miss Shannon getting in passing lanes and Slam blocking shots that look like easy layups (assuming you know and appreciate basketball)