PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Lets hear updates from future and possible Buckeye recruits performances
Timmons has 1 reception went up between 3 defenders for 32 yds And also has 2 rushes for 2 tds. 1 28yd td and 1 80 yd td lined up in the wildcat. 140 yds 3 touches.
First time this year someone kicked off to Timmons and he promptly returned it 98 yds for a Td. 4 touches 238 yds 3 TDs
Halftime for Timmons. 6 touches 257 yds 4 Tds.
Bosa is a manchild
Way to keep the faith Waycracken i hope timmons ens up in S&G does his team ever line him up in the slot/out wide or is he just rb all the way. Was just curious as i believe if he came to tOSU he'd more than likely be a wr or potenial pivot guy.
Bosa's little bro is gonna be a manchild too!
3 receptions 2 tds tonight out of his 6 touches. Actually for the year I think it is a 50-50 split. 31 touches 19 Tds
On pace for a very nice night 1st play 2nd half 62 yd td. Now 5 tds 319 yds 7 touches
Timmons scored TD #6 on a 32 yd reception. 351 yds 8 touches. Game over.
Tell Timmons to play in the GCL (My schools league). We would eat him up, and spit him out.
GCL doesnt have anyone near 10.3 100 meter time. Or 4.31 40
Dereked retweeted someone saying Drew Barker had 371 yards passing, 3 tds and 110 yards rushing in a come from behind victory.
Favorite Buckeye: Obviously BJ Mullens
Nice game for Drew.
Do you even know who is in the GCL?? You need more than speed to play in our league... Annual powerhouses like Xavier, Moeller, Elder. Kentucky football is NO WHERE near Ohio football, besides Trinity, who only beat X 14 to 13 tonight.
I've lived in both Ohio and Kentucky, and I must agree with Buckeyes that there really isn't a comparison between the two states in terms of quality of football. I lived near Trinity, and Trinity/St. X(Louisville's St. X) was about the best you'd get.
Tell Timmons to play in the GCL (My schools league). We would eat him up, and spit him out.
Tell Timmons to play in the GCL (My schools league). We would eat him up, and spit him out.
There's no way that you can validly prove or justify that statement, unless he plays against a team in the GCL. Even then, it doesn't matter. The guy put up 6 TDs, and 351 total yards on 8 touches. I don't care if he 's playing the Little Sisters of the Poor, that's impressive.
Yeah, you need more than speed. GCL South was voted the #1 hardest division in the nation... You have the best coaches, best athletes, best facilities... You name it. We dominated D1 State titles in Ohio.
My point to you is yea I know GCL teams are at a level that Timmons team could not compete with. But my point to you is that if X had Timmons they would beat Trinity by 2-3 Tds. X does not have a kid like him.
I know that. I am not saying he isn't good. I think he is great and I would love to have him. All I am saying is his competition is weak, and his stats may be misleading.
Both Bosas playing great tonight! Poor special teams play cost Aquinas the game. Joe Bosa getting doubled almost every time.
Drew Barker did throw for 371 yards and 3 TDs passing and 110 yards rushing. 35-28 come from behind win.
Darron Lee- 6 total TDs
The Bosa Brothers >> Hopefully Nick Bosa is a future Buckeye!! Freshamn is making some great plays tonight. STA got screwed from a bad QB and horrible special teams.
what position is little bosa
Defensive End. 6'2 210lbs.
ugh, i would kill for that size
Billy Price playing on a sloppy wet field in Barberton...Records 5 tackles and 2 assist..they only ran his way 7 times.....Starters were out of the game in the 2nd series of the 3rd Quarter...Fitch rolls 45-0
At waycracken and Buckeyes125..
I have to agree with Buckeyes also on this one. I come from a GCL school and I know the competiton they play. I also live in Ky and know that the level of competiton is not nearly that of the GCL is. The level of competition in Ohio is by far more competitive, produces much better players, and is much better than what Timmons is playing in. Yes he may be a stud in KY, but putting him in real competition (with pads on) you may see a way different outcome. When this kid plays against top notch competition, a better judgement could be seen.
X is a great high school football team and they have great players. To beat Trinity, who is a top ranked high school program in the nation, they would need a player like Quick or Foster, who Timmons is no where near the player they are.
I do not disagree that the GCL is the toughest conference or has great coaches, but D1 state title domination is St. Ignatius. End of story. As far as going against better competition, ask Shane Morris and his highly nationally ranked team from Warren Michigan about Ohio High School football. What were his stats? 9 of 26 for 104 yds 0tds 2 ints. I am glad he is going to Michigan, because every year he starts, that is a guaranteed win for the Buckeyes.
LOL @ that GCL comment... although Moe and X are legit.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
There was a ton of GCL comments....
2014 QB interest Caleb Henderson, Lake Braddock, was 21 for 27, no interceptions, 3 TDs, 252 yards passing in a 49-29 loss against Westfield. The Washington Post has Westfield ranked as the 7th best team in the greater DC area.
That link from Maxpreps is two years old and was for that season only. Your comments about the GCL sound like SEC fans thumping their chest. The GCL is a VERY good conference consisting of well coached teams, but as far as ATHLETES...it is quite a stretch to make that claim.
My point is, Timmons wouldn't put up the numbers he is putting up in the GCL.
Bosa is a flat out monster...can not wait for the big guy to get to Columbus. Our class has some studs in it, but he may be the best of them all. Pumped this guy is going to be a Buckeye.
If Moe and StX are all that Why havent I heard about all these great athletes theyve been producing in college/pro football. Now I have heard about Colerains group that was sensational a few years back. I know about Mayo who came from a small Ky town to play in Cincinnati a year or two and dominated. Im sorry and please forgive me for my ignorance to the GCL but beyond collectively these teams being so great I cannot remember a kid being from Moe or St X playing a skilled position being mentioned in college or pro. I am sure their are hundreds since it is the very best.
Arrogance makes a person blind. This GCL talk reminds me of a time when Columbus Wherle was top ranked team every year in the US. But when the state tournament came along they would go up against the powerful SCL (shelby County League) and get their butts beat by the likes of Jackson Center, Ft Loramie Russia and Anna. Dont get me wrong I know Woerle had great athletes but they were no match for these better SCL teams. My point GCL boys is do not be blind and think that the system evolves around the GCL.
Waycracken: I enjoyed your brief trip down memory lane, but your example halfway (although not entirely) undermines your argument. I get that the SCL was rural and in that sense represented the "little guys" versus the big city, nationally-ranked Wherle program, which might have some parallel to comparing the rural(?) KY team Timmons play for against the big city, sometimes nationally-ranked GCL teams.
On the other hand, it sounds like those 1980s and 90s SCL teams were able to beat Wherle in the state championships because, while on paper they might have been small school teams, in reality they were playing a meat-grinder regular season schedule against their neighbors, who obviously took bball very seriously (echoes of Indiana bball and the movie Hoosiers?). Meanwhile, Wherle was the team with a few major college prospects, which was able to skate through its regular season; but when tourney time came, they hadn't been tested. If anything, that sounds like what Timmons is experiencing right now.
Look, Timmons might be an awesome player for all I know and the Buckeyes offer him and he accepts, I'll be excited to see what he can do at Ohio State. I'm not even sure that playing against elite h.s. competition is all that important if a kid is enough of a freak (although maybe it better prepares kids to excel right away as college frosh). Yet getting enamored of Timmons' insane h.s. numbers is kinda like when people in the 80s used to get enamored of the numbers put up by the likes of Funderburke against other Catholic schools in C-bus.
All I know is another week with Barker's numbers and the staff should offer. Obviously a stud and dual threat QB.
I agree that D. Barker needs an offer especially if he is going to be able to sway all of his Twitter buddies to come to The OSU. As for the argument that has been ongoing about Timmons and the level of competion he plays against I would like to add my 2 cents. Just because he is playing against weak competition doesn't mean he isn't going to turn out to be a good college player. I live in NE Ohio where OSU has received some of there greatest linebackers like Randy Gradishar and Marcus Marek. These guys played in small towns against weak teams but we all know how they turned out once they got to campus. Now I'm not jumping on the boat with Waycracken about this kid completely, but anyone that puts up numbers every single game like this kid is a stud. What is going to seperate him from being a nobody or a great player at the college level is his attitude.
Just at the top of my head...
List of GCL players (including North, Central, and South) on NFL Rosters
Greg Jones - Moeller - MSU - Giants
Matt Tennant - Moeller - BC - Saints
Kyle Rudolph - Elder - ND - Vikings 2nd Round Pick
Jake McQuaide - Elder - OSU - Rams
Ricky Brown - Elder - BC - Raiders
Mike Windt - Elder - UC -Chargers
Eric Wood - Elder - UL - Bills First round pick.
Brent Celek - La Salle - UC - Eagles
Posey - La Salle - Ohio State - Texans
Luke Kuechly - St. X - Boston College - Panthers Top 10 pick
This list isn't bad at all.
5 of them start last time I checked.
I'm not trying to contradict myself but I will add that I watch Deveon Smith play each week since he is the stud player in my town and I am glad he is going to TTUN instead of the Buckeyes. He is a running back that plays against weak competition and puts up impressive numbers each week but I would much rather have Zeke Elliot on our team then Smith.
my 3 cents worth in regards to timmons. he has sub 4.4 speed in the 40 and i have seen his good hands in person. as for competition who cares. he is coachable. lets say he played in the great GCL, okay. perhaps last night he doesnt return a kickoff 98 yards, instead maybe 60 yards. perhaps he scores just 3 or 4 touchdowns instead of six. maybe instead of 350 total yards, he gains 280 total yards, all because of the awesome talent in the GCL. hypothetically 280 total yards 3 or 4 touchdowns in just 8 touches. would that be a good nights work? now having put in my 3 cents worth, there are others out there just as good as timmons and maybe a tad better, maybe? quick, north , shelton and so on. i would be pleased with any of them, even allen, and timmons.
Urban needs to strictly recruit the GCL! GCL is awesome! Obviously it's the only talent in the state. Same with the NFL. The SEC wins the titles, they need to draft strictly SEC players. How did the 49ers ever take Jerry Rice. His insane numbers against weak college opponents or his blazing 4.70 time in the 40. Get real. Talent is talent, and you don't have to be from cincinnatti to have it.
An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches
I never said anything of that sorts.... At all.
Does anyone know how M. Lattimore did last night? I see that Glenville won big but I couldn't find any stats. Same for Tracy Sprinkle?
I think the coaching staff knows how to evaluate the talent compared to what kind of competition they face so I don't even get this argument. If they offer Timmons then they feel he can come in and contribute at the level they need. If they don't they don't. It seems pretty basic. Although I do agree with the reason that I hate the SEC fans is because they act like they are the greatest thing in the world and no one can compete at their level so hope I never get like that with my teams. Any other updates on other recruits from last night?
I see Middletown won big, any news on Jalin Marshall?
Marshall rushed for 94yds on 10 carries. Didn't see stats for passing
Run Fido Run. I am impressed with your understanding and recall of my example. My overall point I was trying to make in reverse however was how good the GCL team is but they do not produce the Stud athlete in numbers especially considering the size of the schools. 3 players from StX and Moeller were listed and Obviously they are good but just 3 is not so impressive. Little ole St Henry Oh can do better than that and they only graduate 25 boys a year. I know Run Fido can back me on that he very well be from my territory in Ohio.
Lacheye, Hartings, and Hoying. 3 NFL players from itty bitty St. Henry. Shelby County native.
And 2 of those 3 are PRO Bowlers many years
Last night a group of 3 men I spoke to at the game from Boone county came specifically to watch Timmons. They were very impressed and said he was just like Shaun Alexander with one exception and that was Timmons doesnt get the ball enough. Remember Alexander went to Alabama at a time Bama was down. It was Bama or UK.
gcl is an awesome league, probally the best overall in ohio, but they certainly don't dominate div 1 championships. they have had their fair share but far from dominant. st iggy puts all the gcl schools to shame when it comes to dominating on the championship level
stark county football
Buckeyes125, look at Trinity's results last year against 3 teams from the GCL. Look again at their stats this year against the GCL. If you are playing at home, they 5-0 the last 2 years while playing GCL squads. I do think Moellar will beat them this year, as I don't think Trinity is the monster they were last year. They have won 29 strait games though and they keep rolling.
Your thoughts about the GCL vs Kentucky are mostly right BUT not when it comes to Trinity. The last 3 years Trinity is 6-1 against the GCL. I'm guessing you probably got to one of the schools and they are definitely a fine conference, but recent history against this school from Louisville doesn't support your opinoins.
Timmons is nothing like Alexander. 100% different players. Even at the high school level they are completely different. Alexander went to my school's rival and I watched him for 4 years and he was a freakish combination of balance, power, and speed. Was a true RB whereas Timmons is a speed athlete who will be used as a WR.
But as I said early, Trinity does dominate.. I actually won't mind getting Trinity in the GCL.
The thing about Iggy is that all the kids on that area go there are Eds. In Cincinnati, all the Catholic kids are spit up amongst X, Elder, Moeller and LaSalle. Say there were only 2 schools.... The talent would be really good. Iggy is a great program though...
gcl also pulls top kids from kentucky and west va and iggy does not. forget all those recruiting catholic schools. if these schools didint recruit theyd be crap.
For your reading. I believe Mr Alexander and Mr Timmons has more in common up to this point than you remember. This is a bio and talks about how many looked down on him because of his size. Alexander was a great player from Ky playing against weaker opponents. I believe the 3 from Boone knows what they are talking about as they had first hand knowledge.
Are you serious? Moeller probably recruits. In my opinion they are scum, but the other ones don't.
ODEEZ330 if you think catholic schools are the only ones recruiting you are mistaken. It's no accident Colerain is awesome every year. Here in NKY Highlands is very good every year, and guess what, all those kids on that football team don't live in Ft Thomas. They had a team a few years back that was loaded and their 2 best D-1 prospects didn't live in district. A small division school here in NKY that has won 7 or 8 small school division titles has kids on their roster who could/should be playing for other schools as well. It definitely happens, and hurts some public school programs, but there are plenty of public school programs that recruit as well.
I'm not buying the competition for players thing either. Moellar is no where near St X. My wife is a teacher in Price Hill also and people are born to go to Elder. Same with St. X. So, kids who go to those schools are basically 3rd or 4th generation for those schools. Long before St. X or Elder even won a state title(which really neither ever did until fairly recently)
What the GCL does is hurts schools like Princeton who used to be a state power, or West High. They pluck the good talent who would normally end up at those public schools that were once in pretty nice areas of town, but are now in so-so or deteorating schools. It's an easy sell for the kids parents. Sure your son could go to West High or Withrow and play football but do you want them at that school? We're offering free education at (Insert GCL team) and a chance to play football at the highest level.
I thought this thread was about OSU recruits who play on Fri. night? Keep the pissing match in the bathroom....
btalbz no icertainly don't think that. i'm a mckinley alum and our archrival massilon recruits hard. devin smith current osu wr 2 td's today played at massilon his jr and sr yr and transferred their after his monster soph yr for some terrible akron city school. def worked out for him though lol
2015 ath eric glover williams, 110 rush yds 2 td's 25 carries, 5-8 86 pass yds 1 td. was the focus of n. canton hoovers d all night and they still had trouble w/ him. had a 75 yd run called back on a phantom flag
WAYCRAKEN, having first hand experience myself, the reason Shaun had to increase his strength so much in college was because he was able to run over the kids in Kentucky and keep his balance. This part of the article is what I was referring to:
What really drives opponents crazy about Shaun, however, is that the harder you hit him, the wider he smiles.
He had the power to go through hits, the balance to stay on his feet, and then enough speed to exploit it. In high school his natural gifts were ridiculous enough that he just over-powered his competition. In college, he had to learn to work to keep his success.
Timmons is a finesse player who uses speed to blow by tacklers. He creates the space he needs and takes off. This was not Alexander at any point his career from high school on.
I appreciate your updates on Timmons and your enthusiasm for him as a player, but please stop posting as if you are the only person who knows high school football and how to judge prospects.
Waycracken, I will patiently await a Timmons update next weekend. Buckeyes125 will again enlighten us on the awe inspiring GCL and JD can reveal more details of his personal relation with Shaun.
^^ he's a strong bowler, but is too picky about the color of balls that the bowling alley has available. Also, he has a weird affinity for TGI Fridays and Christmas gnomes.
Well played JD. +10
I feel like I am posting in the wrong conversation but Zeke Elliot had another monster game. Over 250 rushing yards and 4 touchdowns and another TD on a punt return.
So Darron Lee goes to my alma mater, but I never advocated for OSU to offer him. I've seen every single game he's ever played except the game two weeks ago.
I've never mancrushed over him. I don't get Waycracken, but to each his own (even though it's almost creepy).
Timmons is fast, he's even very fast, but there's a reason OSU has not given him a commitable offer. I'm going to go ahead and trust the staff with their evaluations of WRs across the country. James Quick (not entirely unlike Joey Bosa) has proven himself against the top competition in the country.
Timmons has yet to do that, and I'm going to go ahead and say that's why he does not have a commitable offer. He uses his very good speed and good skills to beat average high school competition. The offer to Sebastian LaRue all but confirms it.
But he will be getting that offer. Something interesting Timmons only has about 30 touches for his 19 Tds and near 1000 yds and one reason he doesnt get the ball more often believe this or not is to give his own teams defense a break. As far as this crap about comp level outside of Cincinnati Florida and Texas its not all that different. Like i said before i know the gwac very well and Timmons team would be Springfield Middletown Trotwood.
@Urbz agree, except when you say he doesn't have a commitable offer. He has no offer at all
Maybe its because they know he would choose OSU over WVU WIS ARK KY PUR and ILL so they do not want to run off another WR they want. Its called strategy.
One thing I ask of anyone that dislikes my (waycraken) posts is to not take it out on the kid. Timmons is an A student with deep religious beliefs and very respectful. This kid has more than 20 firm offers and several more on the table. He is holding off of a committment to become one of your beloved Buckeyes. Apparently whatever Meyer told him in his 1.5 hour meeting has him believing.
Talent is talent, Pryor and Hall played for a AA school in PA (highest is AAAA). Played against some pretty shit schools but that doesn't make them less talented.
I feel like you stalk Timmons. He does know you talk about him 24/7 on here?
Buck125. Im one of those junkies that have gone to a game every Friday night to watch football. When I travel for business I even catch a game. I love Football. You have said some pretty ugly things and I have in large part ignored it. In this day and age your reference is even uglier. Keep your remarks to football.
I thought this thread was about updates?
Should be named the timmons vs Gcl thread!
"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03
They should make another category in the forums called "Timmons"
Yea this thread got useless pretty quick. Figure out another way to call each other morons or pedophiles, I come here for information.
Timmons should be included in every thread ever. He's going to be the first HS senior to win the Heisman.
Everytime I give an update someone has to say but its not against gcl or against weaker opponent. Everygame played one of the teams is weaker. Quite frankly I believe the kid playing for a team that fields 125 players has an advantage over the kid that suits up with 40 teamates. It all comes down to performance. I enjoy hearing about other recruits performances as well. I was hpping to see what Quick did this week.
In the future I am vowing to only post once with final stats.
I read that Shane Morris was 8 for 17 for 87 yards and an interception in the first half as his team lost 28-0. But the reason for his poor play is that they discovered he had mono and did not play in the second half...? So he played one half of football at which time they found out he had mono? Strange. Read this on a general recruit update page provided by a Michigan blogger. The person alluded to the fact that it could have also affected previous weeks play....Hope he gets well soon.
I take some time to watch the Saints get beat only to return to the boards and find you guys still startin $#it with waycracken. Go back to the beginning of the thread. All the guy did was post stats of Timmons, plain and simple. Exactly what the posts are supposed to be. Stats of players that we as fan's would be interested in learning. Then some of you feel the need to be dic%'s and throw in your personal opinons about the student athelete and the person that post's. The point of the thread is stats and information.
I'm not poking at Waycraken. I'm poking fun at the whole debate just because Timmons has become this mythic-like entity on this post...sort of like Chuck Norris feats of strength jokes and it's slightly humorous how this guy named Timmons has turned into this lightning rod of debate. The mere mention of his name sets off another debate and it's comical to me because I haven't taken part in it but only watched from afar (as I haven't ever watched Timmons play).
Waycracken keep up the updates. Timmons is a guy I want to be a buckeye. If we take 2 more receivers I'd rather have quick and Timmons than quick and Gibson. People need to lay off waycracken, he has more of a passion for the game of football than most people on this board.
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Also I agree that there should be a forum called Timmons and it'll just be a forum where people can take all of their animosity out on each other even if it has nothing to do with a kid named Timmons.
Trudat Triv. Thanks for the updates Waycracken.
Honestly, I like that WAYCRAKEN updates us about Timmons. He's a kid who is at the very least in the coaches' radar.
Waycraken if you're going to post the stats, just do it in one post. I won' t wanna read 6 posts on one guy, who is a plan B for OSU... Jesus man...
Buck125 how about doing a little leg work next week and provide some stats on players from your beloved conference. Look, if we'd all agree to bring something to the table next week, this would be a great post. So let's all agree to post stats first, and then gang up on waycracken!
I am telling him to calm down about Timmons, why would I post about players like he does?
I am just tired of this... That is all.
Don't read them then. The whole debate about the competition they play is stupid. People want Barker from Conner in NKY, he plays terrible competition, but he's damn good. As someone above mentioned TP played for a AA school but his level of play in high school was so good he was the number 1 high school player in America. Shaun Alexander has been mentioned on this thread, he played bad KY competition, looks like it worked out for him.
The argument can be made that the staff doesn't want him for one reason or another, but it has nothing to do with the competition he's playing. It likely has to do with the fact that they already have Marshall and Elliot(who will probably be used out of the backfield in the slot etc) They want Gibson who is a similar player, and oh yeah they only have a couple schollies left to do it.
If the staff doesn't want Timmons, it's not because they say, hmmm he plays against horrible teams, he's not Buckeye material. It's a numbers thing and he probably doesn't fit. He's putting up video game numbers and it's impressive, and it really doesn't matter who he is playing against. He'll be a very good college player wheverever he ends up.
Ya waycracken, stop updating us about highschool recruits on the highschool recruit update thread!
Even if I don't read them, I still see them. HE IS EVERYWHERE.
Can we all agree no matter who the staff ends up getting that we just need speed so we can dominate teams and compete with the SEC?
i agree we need a ton of speed.
Agreed. But I want more than just speed...
Speed isn't everything. How many national titles does Oregon have? Zero. What about the big power team Alabama? 2 in 3 years.
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
Shazier, Grant, and Sabino all have Speed and can run..but are they better then Laurinaitis, Hawk and Homan? No.
Laurinaitis, Hawk, Homan...sigh...those were the days.
Yes they were! Smart LB's with instinct that made plays....
AJ Hawk... Man I wish we had him back. Guy was a crazy beast, and winner. 2nd favorite Buckeye ever.
Hawk/Carpenter/Schlegel was absolute insanity.
JFC then dont open the thread this isnt the only place to get updates on future/prospective buckeyes. All waycracken did was give us updates as he was watching timmons game and then you decided to chime in about the competition and the almighty GCL which btw im from NE OH and played for Benedictine so i know all about OH comp. With that said youre comparing that mighty conference which as a whole has as many state titles as St. Ignatius does by itself to that of a state which is known for having lesser comp. How about you compare that mighty conference of yours to the teams of NE OH when it comes to states titles hell ill even give you the entire southern part of the state and see who has more. Let me flip this on you and say i compare southern OH comp to that of kentucky when it comes to facing northern ohio teams for state titles. The gcl is so mighty yet fall short to even winning their state. You guys are the wisconsin of ohio high school football yeah youll be good some years but in the grand scheme of things you dont take home our theoretical crystal ball nearly as much as we do up here and will always be second fiddle. The whole basis of your argument is the equivalent of saying the SEC has better competition than the WAC ........well no $#it sherlock its well known ohio is annually in the top 5 in the country when it comes to high school football competiton. Sorry for the rant to most on this board but i had to watch my browns lose yet again to come on here to see how our recruits and potential recruits did this weekend and see that bs. Had to put my 2 cents in there bc we laugh at the argument that some website thinks the gcl is the toughest comp in the country yet cannot beat our boys up here consistently when it counts. Thanks for the updates waycracken and actually posting information that was of RELEVANCE to this thread and to future Ohio State football. Shoutout to cajun, triv, yankee, albert, jadams, and chad for getting this hopefully back on track. Also, cajun sorry bout your saints but im glad i put sproles in my lineup for today he had a good game as per usual=still underrated as a pro.
Sure Iggy dominated in the 90s...
Ohio High School State Champions Since 2000
2000 - Upper Arlington - Central Ohio
2001 - Cleveland St. Ignatius - Northern Ohio
2002 - Cincinnati Elder - South Ohio
2003 - Cincinnati Elder - South Ohio
2004 - Cincinnati Colerain - South Ohio
2005 - Cincinnati St. Xavier - South Ohio
2006 - Hillard Davison - Central Ohio
2007 - Cincinnati St. Xavier - South Ohio
2008 - Cleveland St. Ignatius - North Ohio
2009 - Hillard Davidson Central Ohio
2010 - Lakewood St. Edwards - Northern Ohio
2011 - Cleveland St. Ignatius - North Ohio
2012 - Pickerington Central - Central Ohio
Form the inception of the state title crown northern has dominated yeah thats great your recent run TIED you with ONE of our schools up north. Argument over back to recruits and their week 3 stats.......forgot to add congrats to st. X they now have one more state title than holy name for christ sake.......think about that
Yeah. I still believe in competition for players to. Elder, Xavier, LaSalle and Moeller all compete. Xavier competes with Moeller, Elder and LaSalle
Moeller competes with Xavier, and LaSalle
Elder competes with Xavier and LaSalle
You act like the North dominates when each have 15 championships since 1972. We will see what happens this year.
Buckeye125, if you can't handle Waycracken and Timmons on an internet thread, may I propose you take your high school football conference talk to JJ Huddle.
What do you mean "can't handle it?" He just has a strange obsession. I am not the only one that thinks so.
I was also going by all divisions as well not to mention this would most def not be an argument had the loosely and briefly quiet proposed super conference with benedictine, st iggy, st ed's, massilon, canton mckinley, svsm, akron hoban, solon, glenville, mentor, avon lake, stronsville, warren harding, lake catholic, olmstead falls, and buchtel come to fruition. Good mentioning all those titles when bc of the division settings being enrollment based forgot to mention ursuline, benedictine, mooney, or st johns as being the best overall teams in the state most of those years. Anyway back to week three stats for recruits anyone know how hill, jacobs, or baugh did this week i know baugh had a recent concussion though.
You appear to be the only one obsessed Buck125. How about giving it a rest. Next week I'm going to fill this thread full of needless stats of players from the greater New Orleans area just so you can't hijack the post again.
He may or may not have an obsession with timmons for all we know watching his games is the only thing to do where he lives and hes proud to mention a player from his area thats getting bcs recognition. For all we know he may be friends with him or go to school with him but doesnt excuse you for attacking bringing pointless arguments which are common knowledge to rub it in his face. How do we know your not obsessed with him or are in fact waycracken and have multiple personalities?
Me? I haven't been posting about ONE thing for weeks!! You have to be kidding me. Tell this Waycraken guy to give it a rest if anyone!
BTW: I actaully really do want Timmons. I just don't really want to read stuff about him everyday...
Interesting post Spooner. I googled Ohio football championships and Wikepedia came up first with St Ignatius. I then looked at the list and the breakdown for the last 25 years shows 17 champions from NE Ohio 3 from Central and 5 from Southern Ohio. I guess that pretty much proves your point.
Why he posts stats in the stats thread now im starting to question gcl education because it clearly says hs recruit updates not hs competition debate. He simply followed the main objective by giving us up to the minute stats on a player who urban told not to commit anywhere yet. While you on the other hand had to act like a michigan fan and bring ego into this conversation. Well congrats youve successfully hijacked what started off as a good thread.
Thank you Waycracken its easy to dish it out and be the bully to a kid smaller than you but then completely neglect that big brother to the north trumps the argument. Its also funny how the first reaction is to blame the other guy who follows the rules and then become bewilldered at the fact why everyone is pointing you out as the reason why we are off topic. Classic case of michigan-itis ive seen it many times :P
Buck125 just let it be. All I did was as someone stated was give updates only on his TDs as they occurred. It just so happened he had 6 of them. The team I am following has 5 legitimate D1 recruits which is an abnormal year for that program. The QB on the team is very good as well and has chosen Toledo.
In SEC country it is unusual for a kid to want to go to tOSU. Every friend relative and coach would try to talk the kid out of being a Buckeye. No doubt that pressure is on Quick and in his mind and heart he probably wants to stay home. Id rather have the kid with like skills and in his heart and mind he wants to be a Buckeye.
Spoonerbuck you may be on to something. What if Timmons is Waycracken? Posting stats in between reps on Friday night from the sideline? Then he creates Buckeyes125 as an antagonist to Waycracken to throw people off the trail? Ingenious! Note how Buckeyes125 declares he actually does want Timmons recruited by tOSU! Waycracken + Buckeyes125 = Timmons!
That's funny because Spooner attack me.... Hypocrite.
From what I saw the North and the South both have 15 titles, so I don't know how the north is automaticly better. You said the south has been playing catch up, it has been the north. It took them to win 3 of the last 5 it tie the south.
I am sorry I called you out. I do want Timmons to be apart of this team. If he actaully does have 4.3 speed that is fantastic. Thinking about Jacobs, Marshall, Elliot, and Timmons is awesome. I do want Quick more, but Timmons isn't to far behind.
Enough of this, let's just focus on the stats of Buckeye commits/targets.
Now thats funny Cajun.
Agree and I will condense the report
Is it really fair to compare Grant and Shazier to Hawk, Homan, and Laurinitis who were beloved players after spending 4 years on the team? Grant and Shazier are sophomores, Shazier has endeared himself to the program already. Grant is looking better. Sabino hasn't been so great over his career, but he's not looking too bad this year.
I'd also say that Alabama is a power team, but it's not neccessarily correct that they don't have speed. Ingram and Richardson looked pretty damn fast when they were running the ball for Bama. Julio Jones wasn't slow, and all those huge O and D-Linemen they have are freakishly fast too.
I have deleted my previous post i was gonna write. Thank you for letting civility reign 125 and i will apologize for attacking you by defending waycracken. Now that that is all settled 125 can you give us any names of any underclassmen from the gcl thatwe should keep an eye for being potential buckeyes? Ego has nothing to do with facts it is indeed ego that gets in the way of facts. Listen im not the enemy but if it takes someone to chime in and act such as the person is acting to show the nonsense of it all then so be it. I actually like posts youve had in the past and do not deem you in anyway an enemy of mine. I apologize for the michigan posts and being on a delay here forums are not the easiest thing to navigate and post on from an ipad
I honestly don't read your post. I scim through them. I already know that the divisions are based on enrollment in school. Why are you telling me something I already know. How can you compare me with a scum fan, when you are doing the same thing with your ego about northern Ohio football? Hypocize. I said lets focus on the topic of the tread, but now your trying to get it off topic. Shut up, unless you can tell me how Taivon Jacobs did this week.
Edited my above post
Devin Pike - 6'6 TE from Elder 2014. He is having a sold junior year so far, but is a little rusty because he wasn't allowed to play sophomore year because he transfered. He runs the spread already and could be great at OSU. He has 324 yards in 3 games
Derek Kief 6'5-6'6 WR from LaSalle 2014. He is having a pretty solid year, even though he has a freshman starting at QB for him. #4 player in OH for the class of 2014. #1 WR, even though I think Snodgrass is better. He has 18 catches for 295 yards and 3 touchdowns through 4 games. He has been getting double teamed all year though.
Peyton Ramsey 6'3 QB from Elder Class of 2016
This kid is the best freshman I have ever seen play football in my life. Kid is something special. He is fast and has a very accurate arm. I could see him being like Colt McCoy running a spread offense. We will hear about him in a few years
Jeremey Larkin 5'9 RB from LaSalle Class of 2016
The fastest kid I have ever seen. Starts as a punt returner and kick returner for the Lancer. He has already taken 3 to the house. Nephew of Baseball Hall of Famer Barry Larkin. Runs a 4.5, but I am sure will get faster, sence he is a freshman
Tommy Kraemer 6'5 250 LT from Elder Class of 2016
His size says enough for is age. The kid is a bull dozer
The reason I know so much about 2016 is because that is my bros grade.
I don't know much about X and Moeller becasue I haven't watched them yet.
Thank you very much for the info 125 i have heard of both pike and kief. I think kief is intriguing do u think he has the frame for a flex TE or would he be wr all the way? Havent heard about ramsey larkin or kraemer yet but i trust you on scouting those are some big kids for their age dear lord. Where does kraemer play on the line now? Also, how is Ramseys arm strength for his age and from the looks of it seems like elder is gonna be something speacial very soon might have to head your way catch a game maybe have a peace beer with you and enjoy some good ol' FNL lol
Sorrydidnt see you put LT next to kraemer my bad
Kief is a WR all the way. Also a basketball star, but quit to focus on football. I would love to get him, we could just throw jump boys to him in the endzone all day.
Ramseys arm strenght is pretty solid right now. He can throw 62 yards. People are really hyping up this freshman class. Hopefully they pull through. Lost to a Trinity team in overtime 9 to 6. Ramsey drove down the field and scored, put Elders kicker missed the PT to give them the lead. That Trinity team add some studs themselves, and the Kentucky refs screwed Ohio over. Some horrible calls. Elder frosh is 3 and 1 and play X in 2 weeks.
I forgot to talk about Joe Schroer Elder class of 2016. 6'2 246lbs RT/DT
He is a beast to and destroys the opposite offensive line. Missed the Trinity game though with ankle injury.
I think kief is def gonna get a hard look from urban reminds me some of tyrone williams in high school a bit from the tape i saw except when i saw tyrone hed mentally check out of some games still thought hed have a better career than he does now which is a shame as watching our offense putting him in the slot where stony lines up we create all kinds of mismatches. Anyway if you could keep us updated on the gcl kids esp that ramsey kid bc up here we dont have any qb underclassman like that.
Shane Morris - I know he's a TTUN recruit but kind of curious how a new 5 star quarterback performs. For the year he's 41 of 80 for 461 yds. 4 TD and 4 INT QB rating 65. WOW this kid is good.
Good player's make the play's they're suppose to, great player's make the play's they're NOT !!!
Einhorn is Finkel? Finkel is Einhorn? EINHORN IS FINKEL!
@ buckeyes 125
Is this Elders coaches son?
lol haha good one on morris. shorts and tees stud, pads on dud!!! ignatius tore hime and his team a new one when they played
sidz-z: Morris can't cut it against good competition. Shane and his team came down to Cleveland and got throttled by Iggy.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Yeah it is the coaches son.
I watched Morris at some of the camps on ESPNU and wasn't impressed, then hear he became a 5 star. Thought I was missing something. I hope LaquonTreadwell is paying attention.
Good God... if we could remove all of the GCL garbage and just have the recruit stats and updates, this would be an awesome thread.
Soooo... high school games are what, 3-4 weeks into the season? Are the coaches close to offering any 2014 QBs now that they have a bit of film on them?
I don't know if you realized Sox33OSU, but this thread is on track on....
Talking about linebackers, that don't play anymore, I think that Brian Rolle needs a little more love. The guy was fantastic.
I'm a huge buckeye fan that lives in Frankfort, KY and I played for his coach (Tracy) and graduated in 1999 after moving from North Canton (GlenOak) in 1995. I grew up watching GlenOak, Massillion, and McKinley every Friday night. I'm not an expert on the current state of HS football, or the GCL, or any other prospects for that matter but... I've watched Timmons play a lot in person, and I've talked to a ton of people who know him very well including my/his coach. He's an AMAZING HS player, best most will ever see in a lifetime, and everyone I've ever talked to has said he's as good a kid as he is an athlete.
I guess he could have sold out on people like me, and transferred to a private school like Trinity, but he didn't. I guarantee he had the opportunity, but I assume he felt a strong bond with his coach and teammates. One of his best friends (Logan Woodside) is a beast too (verballed to Toledo last month). Why leave when you could easily win the 1st school state championship in school history?
I check this forum every day, hoping and praying that Urban will offer this kid before he commits somewhere else. He is the perfect prospect for Urban Meyer. He has SEC speed, and more importantly knows how to use it on the field.
This is only my 2nd or 3rd post. I'm passionate about tOSU football, but my passion is watching them play. I follow recruiting passively, but wouldn't normally post anything in a forum. I'm only posting because I would probably jump up and down like a 5 year old on his birthday if Timmons were to become a Buckeye. I would go ape shit.
In closing, I want to note that Timmons wears an OSU headband or dew rag under his helmet. It's been 3 weeks since I've been close enough to see it, but I'm determined to get a picture this week. If he's wearing it, I'll get a pic, and I'll find a way to post it.
Thanks WAYCRACKEN and BUCKEYESTU for keeping his name at the top of the boards. Everyone else, watch him play, then talk trash.
Good post DBEV. Its easy to root for good people and a kid that has kept such a good level head. I too come from OHio but from the Woody Hayes era i went to school that produced Ohios top athlete the year I graduated (9.6 100yd)Woody wanted him to play defense and Michigan wanted him for offense so Woody made a 2nd visit to his home to highly encourage him to attend ND if he wasnt gonna be a Buckeye. This particular player won a Championship with Montana and also a Super Bowl with Sweet P. Timmons is better than the one I am speaking of.
I wonder if tOSU gave him a track schollie would that count against Football as well?
Waycraken...... It's spelled WEHRLE!! Not sure where you got your info, but since I played on multiple state championship teams, let me help you out
1985 - lost in Final Four to Jackson Center (Jerry Francis' Sr year)
1986 - 27-1 won state title, defeated Dayton Jefferson(freshman year)
1987 - lost in regional final to Brandewie & Ft Loramie (Soph year)
1988 - 26-2 won state title, defeated Kalida (Jr year)
1989 - 21-6 won state title, defeated Lima Central Catholic (Sr year, w/out Funderburke, dismissed from team after game 6)
1990 - 25-3 won state title, defeated Springfield Central Catholic 3PEAT
1991 - lost in Final Four to Tri Village
That's Dominating! :o)
The whole state wanted us to lose! Haters gonna hate!
And we never played the likes of Russia or Anna!! In 89, Ft Loramie was suppose to meet us in the finals, but they didn't make it. I remind Brandewie often, our boys play @ Bishop Hartley. :o). His son also quarterbacks the football team that is currently #1 in DIV.
Can the 14 yr olds trying to smack talk their HS football teams stay out of these threads. It's exhausting trying to find real information between the all the asinine comments.
My JV team could beat your JV team anyday!
Buckeyemj. Nice post. Wehrle did have a great program again worthy of being #1 USA. My point in that post that I didnt make to well was that these small schools were having records of 24-2 but many in this thread would dispute with their logic because of comp level In fact however these small Shelby County League teams would have most likely beaten any Cincinnati team as well.
10 posts out of 150+ posts with recruits stats? Can we please just start a Timmons thread for all the bickering over competition so we can actually find what we are looking for in a thread that states " recruit updates" please?
The tread is one track now, but you idiots are getting it off. Waycracken and I made peace. Get on with your lives.
Anyone know how Taivon Jacobs did this past Friday?
Shane Morris diagnosed with Mono...may miss the rest of the season
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
hail - In all sincerity, that totally sucks for Morris. I heard the kid had to be taken to the hospital. Mono is no joke. Had it myself back in the day. Obviously football takes a backseat to getting healthy, so I wish the guy the best and hope he recovers soon. I'm looking forward to facing him once he's taking snaps in AA.
Hey buckeyes125 Jacobs had 30 yd td catch and 20 td run in 41-0 win
Mono is no joke... he's gonna need some mega effort to come back from it and perform at a high level.
Buckeye125, don't call people "idiots" when you were the reason this thread bombed. You did the same crap last week with the "recruit update" thread.
I don't recall doing the same thing, and I am getting back on track, but people like you are trying to get it back off.
Ummmm... So.... High school football is, like, really important to you guys. Thats cool bros.
But just from personal experience, the play in the trenches in teh GCL is the bests in the nations. Every single lineman - and I mean EVERY lineman - benches over 200 LBS! They're so insanely strong in that league.
Humble: If you can't bench 200, you shouldn't be playing varsity line in any high school.
WHAT! Glad to know you're high school's players are well supplied with STEROIDS! If you don't RECRUIT like the GCL, then the only way you could have all your linemen benching over 200 is if they're taking THE JUICE and by that I mean STEROIDS!
Humble: Are you insane? It's really not that hard to hit 200 lbs for bench, especially when you're a lineman.
edit: I see where humble is going here... proceed.
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