PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Luke Fickell will be in Alex Anzalone's high school checking on the former commitment today, fwiw.
Go get him Fickell.
"Did you push yourself to be great today? If you didn't do it you lost a day. We ain't got many days to lose. We're going to push your a$$ like its never been pushed because what you've got in you were going to find out" UFM
Is Sal going to be around?
mark may wins douchebag of the year... again
Fickell?? Come on. If we want this guy, then Meyer should so go personally.
I don't think Urban is allowed to visit with recruits off campus at this stage in the recruiting cycle, only assistant coaches are.
I think it's great. The creepy dude/fan could have happened anywhere. He fell in love with ths school once, it can happen again. He will add some toughness to the LBs.. Hopefully FIck can mend the mess.
Many people said that Fickle was our best recruiter in the Tressel days. I trust him to do what needs to be done. Plus that is his position.
"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
THE Ohio State University
Hopefully some good comes out of this.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
Fickell is supposed to be a great recruiter, he is the defensive coordinator, he is coaching the line backers, and he's a former OSU standout. I think he is a great guy to go out and see if he can real Anzalone back in.
Alex whats your current take on Anzalone, do you think he could end up in this class?
Anyone who is questioning Fickell's recruiting ability hasn't followed OSU football the past 7 years.
@3technique ... You think he would add "toughness" to the LBs?!?! How so if you don't mind me asking ... He doesn't do anything on film that shows me he'd add anymore toughness then then any of the incoming freshmen ... and if you want toughness just watch Shazier in the circle drill against the bigger Sabino ... Alex would add to the already much improved athletics of the LB core, but toughness he wouldn't add ... J.Bosa is tough ... Alex having 2nd thoughts, but blaming something else for his de-commitment, doesn't display any level of toughness to me ...
Where do you guys sit as far as LB needs? I know you lost the two guys you had committed, but there's not really depth concerns at LB, are there? Some of those DL recruits are moving to play OLB, if I'm not mistaken.
Anyway, if this whole situation happened at Michigan, I don't think I'd want this kid.
Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!
@Hail I don't think there are "concerns" at LB Depth. I think we should be fine even if we don't sign any LB's in this class, given last years haul and the youth of some of the starters (Shazier, Grant). That said Anzalone is big prospect, one whom there is always room for regardless of depth, I would love for him to get back in to this class. I think the staff will sign at least one LB in this class and as many as three, because I think a spot will be saved for Jaylon Smith and the staff may sign one hybrid (Lewis Neal Type).
I think that he and his parents may have initially over-reacted in the wake of creeper-gate, but they pretty quickly backed off their initially strong statements against OSU. I cant say that if I was in their position I wouldn't have done the same thing, as I can imagine for parents thats would have been an extremely concerning situation. Plus, he's a kid and where to attend college is a huge decision. So I completely give them a pass, I personally don't really get upset if any kid decommits or steps back and reevaluates. Of course when kids who are doing it serially and completely flip flopping over the place thats a different story. But, the Anzalone and Neal decommits both appeared to be for tangible reasons (Creeper Gate, and too far from home) both of which I certainly can understand. As I mentions, ultimately I hope Anzalone ends up in this class, and the same goes for Neal.
Urban Meyer has work to do here, and I just hope that he can do it without any "help" from all the message board recruiters.
A. @Bama and others: Stop with the "Anzalone's tape isn't good" argument. Clearly, since just about every coach in America wants him, he has an invite to The Opening, and he's highly rated across the board, he's a great prospect. You are not a better judge of talent than the likes of Urban and co. Just stop.
B. Anyone that's ever met Luke Fickell will tell you, he's got that personality factor that makes you want to like him. He's got the family-type aura that recruits and families like, and he also heads a traditionally dominant defense. When it comes to the areas he's been recruiting since his hire, he's the top tier.
@Buck I.8 ... Where exactly did I say he wasn't good? A poster said something about him being tough, and bringing toughness to the LB core. I agree Urban is a MUCH better talent evaluator then I am, however he, and all the other coaches in america have recruited quite a few players that didn't pan out, and w/most players that don't pan out its usually something mental. I've never said he wasn't good, just said his offensive highlights had more "WOW" plays then his defensive tapes ...
I said, people are saying that his "tape isn't good".
The fact that coaches have recruited players that don't pan out has to be the worst argument ever. That would mean that no one on the earth knows talent
I didn't say it as an argument ... I said it because its a fact ... Predicting talent is an not an exact science ... Recruiting is jus that, an attempt to predict talent ...
meh. i bet he cooks a mean spaghetti, but otherwise, i'm not excited about him. i hope he and his father end up at psu playing for the sandusky risen phoenix.
You're correct. It isn't an exact science. However, for some, it is more exact than others, for which you are the latter. So you let Urban handle recruiting, and you can stick to your elipses.
The integrity of this Ohio State staff is outstanding. Regardless of what may or may not happen here, these are good people.
If your going to try, and be funny you could at least spell the word ... correctly.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion about the guy. Obviously bama and buck I.8 are In a disagreement about Anzalones ability as a LB, but let's not turn into grammar nazis and have pissing contests. I'd hope that as Buckeyes, we are more mature than taking grammar shots at fellow fans. Now Michigan fans on the other hand, pick apart their posts letter by letter;)
Everybody Love Everybody
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
This kid will never play at OSU. Time to move on.
I second what Triv said.
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Using ellipses to separate every sentence in lieu of proper punctuation is in fact not grammar, friend, but i digress.
@Triv ... I 2nd your thought as well ...
@Gobucks ... I agree completely.
@ JohnBlair -- I agree ... it's just a waste of time/resources at this point. Whether he's genuinely interested or not --- he (more like his father, perhaps) is just trying to save face right now. He will pick either Florida or Notre Dame most likely...he's not going to come back to OSU after the father made such a fool out of himself. This is just a PR move for them now.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
I don't follow ND much and so I don't know how their depth is, but at this point I think he might end up with ND. He clearly enjoyed being with Heuerman at our Spring Game and they must have a better depth chart than Florida even if they add Jaylon too. Long way to go either way. It sounds like he is going to take his time now.
We definitely don't need LBs in this class, but I would like to add one LBer in this class (at least) and he seems like the best besides Jaylon at this point.
The rumor was his dad is a florida alum he wants him to go there. I hope we get him but if not to me its not a killer this year. now next year we can't miss on to many guys.
Somebody calling out spelling (or grammar) and not understanding your/you're - classic.
@REDSTORM45 Haha I didn't even think of that until you said it (not that it REALLY matters)
@ Buckeyeneer...during the Tressel era, Fickell could've easily been know as the best offensive mind and quarterbacks coach as well.
@52 True, but if we're getting all technical and everything...
Anyone know how the visit went?
"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."
I wouldn't say this kid will never play at OSU...yesterday's visit went really well and Alex told me he might be stopping by OSU on his way home from his June 14 ND visit.....if he does OSu is right back where they left off
I am very pro Buckeye but I understand where Bama is coming from and I support his opinion. I don't know if he ever said the kid isn't good, I believe he is. He is very fast and athletic but I didn't see text book tackling and "Toughness". Does he elevate the LB corps? I think he will but I don't know if he bring s "Toughness". Arm tackles won't often work at the college level. Disclaimer: My opinion is based off of a limited hilight real.
I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.
14th? Thats the same day Jaylon Smith is visiting ND - I don't like the sound of that. They may press him to commit before he gets to Columbus and we wont even get the visit.
If he claims he's going to be taking things slow now and that he rushed into committing early to OSU then I would hope he won't commit on the spot to Notre Dame while he visits. But really who knows. At this point I would still like to have him as a Buckeye, but we'll see.
eh, ND is filling up fast... if they get the J.Smith commit they might be down to their last LB spot... it's unlikely, but I could see Anzalone pulling the trigger... That being said, I think UF is the team taht his parents want him at and nothing will be decided until they make sure he takes a REAL good luck at the gators.
Cause I couldn't go for three
Is he the kind of prospect that OSU, ND or UF would hold a place for? (Not trying to be snarky at all, the question is sincere.) Or is it that as much as the family would like to take things slower, he could be left out in the cold if he doesn't commit soon to one of the programs that he still has an interest in?
I think holding a spot should only be done with the elite of the elite prospects, as it is a risky game. Or perhaps a position of dire need. IMO you hold a spot for Smith, not Anzalone. We took a nice crop of LBs last class, and though its super early, we sit well with a number of quality LBs for the '14 cycle. Would you take Anzalone over say, a solid OLine prospect or another offensive weapon, I dont think so...
@Southbymidwest Arguable he is a big time player his offers alone speak to that, but ultimately I think it depends on the school and their roster/depth situation. I think OSU will hold a spot for him for a little while, but given the limited spots in this class I don't that thats an indefinite hold. In particular if some other high profile guys try to commit.
I don't think anyone will hold a spot outright for him, but if the position is filling up, schools will put more pressure on him, i think. He's definitely an upper-tier prospect, and a guy that you want over a lot of others.
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