2013 in 2009's Shadow

By Vico on January 16, 2014 at 11:30a
Corey "Pitt" Brown in the Big Ten Championship Game

The exact moment I realized that this 2013 team was measurably not elite this season and there was nothing that could be done about it came on Michigan State's third drive of the Big Ten Championship Game. That was capped by Keith Mumphery's 72-yard touchdown reception on a two-play scoring drive.

It was made possible by decision-making from Corey "Pitt" Brown that was outright unforgivable. Brown's angle to Mumphery on his route was a play you would make if you were a novice video gamer trying to break up that play with a greasy thumb on the joypad. If a fifth-year senior was making that kind of error on that kind of stage, then "the chase" was going to come to a fiery crash eventually. Whether that would be against Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship Game or in a BCS bowl game was the next question to ask. As it turned out, the answer was "both".

The player who took that terrible angle was a "can't miss" prospect from the well-regarded Gateway program in Monroeville, Pennsylvania. A possible either/or prospect at defensive back and wide receiver, Brown had all the features of a star in the making from Ohio State's 2009 recruiting class.

Astute Buckeye fans may also remember that Jim Tressel's staff was actually a bit reticent to offer Corey Brown. It was Dorian Bell, an even bigger prize at linebacker, that lobbied hard for his high school teammate and friend to receive an offer from Ohio State as well. He was eventually offered and joined Bell in Ohio State's 2009 class. Ohio State's 2009 class may have had the best combo deal of high school teammates in the country.

On paper, Ohio State's 2009 recruiting class was as good as it got in the country. Ranked by 247Sports as the tops in the Big Ten and fourth best nationally, the returns from 2009 fizzled almost immediately. In fact, much of Urban Meyer's tenure at Ohio State has been shaped by that recruiting class, both good and bad. It's been more the latter than the former.

Duron CarterDuron Carter was the first flame-out from 2009.

At no other position are the misses in the 2009 recruiting class more prominent than linebacker. Ohio State signed three linebacker prospects, possibly five, contingent on how Zach Boren and Jonathan Newsome are classified. Dorian Bell, Storm Klein, and Jordan Whiting looked like sure things coming from high school. Bell was the biggest prize by far. Klein and Whiting looked like they could develop into dependable linebackers to complement Bell, for whom we expected a career akin to what we observed from Ryan Shazier a few years later.

The careers of all three never really materialized. Bell, of all three, was actually the first to leave the program. Rather than sit through a suspension for the 2011 season for a violation of team rules, Bell, whose Ohio State career was struggling to gain traction, opted to transfer home to Pittsburgh. He later enrolled at Duquesne, an Army All-American five-star prospect playing football for the Northeast Conference.

Newsome, similarly, transferred out the program within a few years of struggling for playing time and struggling to abide by team rules. He landed at Ball State.

Klein and Whiting stayed a bit longer at the fair. After Urban Meyer took the job at Ohio State, Whiting transferred momentarily to Louisville with the idea of playing a senior season of football for Charlie Strong. That never materialized. If I recall correctly, Whiting later returned to Ohio State as a student, and not a student-athlete.

Klein made it four years for the program, but was ignominiously benched in favor of Zach Boren after woeful performances against the likes of Indiana and Purdue.

Yes, the best linebacker from Ohio State's 2009 recruiting class played three and a half years as a fullback only. If only Ohio State's coaching staff were prescient to extend scholarship offers to Chris Borland and Luke Kuechly, both in-state linebacker prospects that found success elsewhere.

The other chest wounds left by that failed recruiting class manifested at both wide receiver and defensive back. Corey Brown's shortcomings have already been highlighted.

I had high hopes for Dominic Clarke when he signed with Ohio State from Frederick, Maryland. He had what I hoped was a break-out moment in the 2011 Sugar Bowl. However, he engaged in some skylarkings in the first several weeks of Urban Meyer's Ohio State tenure when a razor-sharp focus was demanded from the new Ohio State coach. He was dismissed, later landing and finishing his career at Illinois State.

Jamie Wood, an early enrollee in that same recruiting class, had a career mostly cut short due to recurring injuries.

The shortcomings of the wide receiver haul may resonate more with Ohio State fans. Remember Duron Carter? Of course, you do. Duron Carter looked the part in his freshman season, suggesting that Ohio State's faith in him was justified notwithstanding his meager star ranking. He did all the little things right on the field to affirm belief he was a pro-caliber talent. Regrettably, he did important things wrong off it. Unable maintain academic eligibility, he bounced to community college, Alabama, and later Florida Atlantic before plying his craft in the CFL. He's doing well in Canada right now. He would've been a phenomenal split end for Ohio State.

James Jackson may not ring a bell, but he had high hopes at Ohio State as well. His high school highlight reel suggested that he could mature into a crisp route runner with fluid hips to make plays with the ball in his hand. No part of that materialized. Jackson later transferred to Wayne State in his native Michigan.

The Class of 2009
Pos. Player Notes
DB C.J. Barnett Multi-year starter at safety
LB Dorian Bell Finished career at Duquesne
DT Adam Bellamy Left program
RB Jamaal Berry Dismissed from team
FB Zach Boren Starter at FB and LB
DB Corey Brown Backup safety
WR Duron Carter Academic casualty
CB Dominic Clarke Dismissed from team
DE Melvin Fellows Knee injury derailed career
TE Reid Fragel Moved to tackle, flourished
QB Kenny Guiton Best bullpen QB in history
RB Jordan Hall Solid contributor at RB
OL Marcus Hall Multi-year starter on line
FB Adam Homan Special-teamer for OSU
WR James Jackson Transferred to Wayne State
LB Storm Klein Backup LB contributor
OL Corey Linsley Multi-year starter on line
OL Sam Longo Transferred to Cincinnati
OL Jack Mewhort Multi-year starter on line
DE Jonathan Newsome Transferred to Ball State
DT John Simon Multi-year starter on DL
LB Jordan Whiting Left program
DB Jamie Wood Injury derailed career

Chris Fields and C.J. Barnett hung around as fifth-year seniors, concluding their careers in the Orange Bowl. Both were serviceable. Fields had his career moment from the Purdue game last year in a season in which he momentarily quit the team after a rough practice.

The rest of Ohio State's 2009 class can resemble a veritable "who's who" of "remember these guys?" Adam Bellamy had a great 2011 Sugar Bowl before leaving the program when Urban Meyer arrived. I think he just stopped playing football. Jaamal Berry showed some flashes before faltering off the field. He transferred to Murray State and will enter this year's NFL Draft.

Melvin Fellows was the subject of an intense recruiting battle with Ron Zook's Illinois program. He flipped to the Buckeyes as a promising strongside defensive end prospect. He never fully recuperated from a foot injury suffered as a senior in high school. A forgotten part of the corollary 2011 scandal involving Bobby DiGeronimo, Fellows was en route to retiring from football anyway.

Adam Homan stuck around for four years as a backup fullback to Zach Boren, even when Boren had transitioned to linebacker midway through his senior season in 2012. Sam Longo transferred to Cincinnati as an underclassmen, finishing his career there this season.

That's not to say all was terrible from that recruiting class. Of all possible positions, the offensive line haul was stellar. Marcus Hall, Corey Linsley, and Jack Mewhort all had good to great careers for Ohio State. Reid Fragel became a great eleventh hour right tackle in 2012. Jim Bollman picked them. Ed Warinner got the most from them.

Carlos Hyde, who signed with Ohio State but deferred enrollment for a year, had a similar exceptional career for Ohio State down the stretch. John Simon was great the moment he stepped foot on campus. Jordan Hall had a good career for Ohio State as well.

Maybe our favorite player from that recruiting class was the one we added at the last minute. Kenny Guiton should be the subject of Bunyan-esque tall tales for years to come.

Not everyone from that 2009 recruiting class was abjectly terrible. However, the returns from the country's fourth best recruiting class dissipated almost immediately, targeting several key positions at wide receiver, defensive back and, especially, linebacker. Even the returns at offensive line were deferred to the future and a new coaching staff.

The last remnants of that recruiting class have now concluded their careers for Ohio State as redshirt seniors. They're no longer valid excuses for Ohio State football's shortcomings. Nevertheless, the 2013 Ohio State football team is in part a function of that 2009 recruiting class, good and bad, but mostly bad. It's difficult to observe the 2013 team and not ask what it would've looked like if Jordan Whiting had rounded into form as a redshirt senior, or if Dominic Clarke could've been available to spell Doran Grant, or if James Jackson could've given our receiver corp an extra dimension had he panned out.

Those questions are no longer relevant in 2014, but they lingered in 2013.


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niblick's picture

i just got sick my mouth a lil bit

BuckeyeChief's picture

Great write up; I remember the high hopes we had for this class, and "Safari Planet" Fellows!

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gm3jones's picture

Excellent article! There is little doubt about how that class put us behind the 8-ball so to speak. You are allowed to whiff on 3 or 4 kids-- not over half of them!That will hurt later down the road for sure. I didn't know most of these transfers I remember seeing was all from the 09 class.. So that makes sense why our depth is such an issue. This just proves that having the number one recruiting class doesn't amount to a hill of beans if they don't have the personality traits needed to be a champion. Great article again.

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Buckabroad's picture

I agree with you fully. Fortunately, Coach Meyer seems to look not only for extremely talented players, but for ones who are mature and strong of character also. Guys like McMillian, Collier and Hubbard for example all have good grades, are quite articulate and impress with maturity and ambition most kids at that age do not have. I think this recruiting strategy will pay considerable dividends down the road.

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BoFuquel's picture

Nothing special about this class, I'm pretty sure it's not too different from 1959 or any 9 team. some are better or worse, but it averages out over the long haul. GO BUCKS!

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AJW_16's picture

Watched that video from the B1G Championship game. That angle for Brown was worse than I thought when I saw it the first time.

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cuttyrock's picture

I always saw Pitt Brown as a wr. Never saw a good db. He created separation at wr.

shaggybuckeye's picture

He sure did, especially when he was a db...

Zimmy07's picture

As soon as I saw him do that I screamed "The corner blitzed!  You can't do that!"
I then ranted about someone needing to be fired.

Son of Sevenless's picture

Amazing how not even half of those players had decent careers. And aside from Simon and a few offensive lineman, no standouts. Shows why OSU had such a lack of depth at certain positions the last two years.

NitroBuck's picture

Don't forget that this was not the only class with lots of attrition at LB.  Seems to me we had 2 or 3 bad recruiting classes in a row at that position.

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brylee's picture

Nice write up.  This is the kind of think though, that makes it tough to follow recruiting at a very high level because the percentage of flame out is so high.  Hopefully UFM and Co. can/will right the ship!

dwcbuckeye's picture

Great article.  This puts it in perspective for how difficult it can be to translate "star" ratings to actual performance.  I have said it a few times in the past, but I personally feel the inadequacies of the defense this year is more on the players then coaches.  Pitt Brown is a perfect example.  No matter how often they try to teach him the proper angles or the other DB/Safeties to look back, they just don't do it.  They don't get it.  And this article shows that is not too surprising.  I am sure this is similar to most big time programs. 
Where I fault the coaches more than anything is not making a change from an underperforming upperclassman to an underclassman with potential - give the new guy a chance. 
In the end, recruiting is a numbers game, the more 4 stars you get year after year, the better your program will perform.

ep's picture

great writeup.  There's a lot of wasted potential in that lineup.  I remember being most excited about Jamaal Berry, there was no way his name wouldn't be dotted across the record books.
Of course, I said the same thing about Steve Bellisari, so what do I know?

cinserious's picture

Before Berry even made it up North to play football, the five star rb already was on the police blotter.

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ep's picture

yeah, not a good omen, he did find his way into the dog house here too if I recall correctly. 
I think it was this highlight tape which did it for me:

NC_Buckeye's picture

How in the hell does an entire recruiting class (I guess I should say an almost entire recruiting class) fall apart like that?
I've said it before and I'll say it again to the Fickell haters. Our biggest problem this year was an inadequate roster at key defensive positions. You can't make shinola out of shit... or something like that. Our whole defensive backfield was no where close to being serviceable. And even Shazier and Roby looked suspect at times.
Also, great article Vico. Thanks for posting that.

NitroBuck's picture

More like you can polish a turd all you want, but that won't change what it is.  You are right on target regarding the lack of experienced depth in the back 7.  This has been a problem for a couple of years now.  People need to keep in mind that this is not the only recruiting class with high attrition rates, so the problem is more than just this one class.   It is not really fair to lay all of the resulting problems on a Co-DC.  It is not like Fickell & Co had the deep, experienced talent that we saw on 2012 Bama to work with. 

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JC-28's picture

Absolutely agree. Fickell may or may not be a good DC, but its really hard to judge based on what he had to work with this season


The 2009 class did give us 3 studs on the OL and Kenny G's sweet sweet jazz, but MAN, I've never seen a recruiting class with so many issues. It just goes to show you what a great coach Meyer is to still turn things around despite so many problems.
What concerns me are the classes of 2011 and 2012. What are they going to look like 2-4 years from now when we see another story like this on 11W. A table full of busts or a table of champions?

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BuddhaBuck's picture

I'd venture to say that review for the 2011 class will read pretty well with names like Braxton, Bennett, Shazier, D. Smith, Heuerman, Doran G., Haynes, Hale, Vannett, and even big Chris Carter contributing...

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wilkins0802's picture

Very good write up. Goes to show that "star" ratings really do not mean anything. Look at MSU for instance. They do not get the high caliber talent that OSU, or Bama, or ever Florida get..but those 3 or 4 "star" talent always pan out. Those guys want it more, and have the most to prove. I had such high hopes for Jamaal Berry too...

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

the most glaring weakness on this team the last 3 years... LB. To think what this team could have accomplished had they recruited Chris Borland and Luke Kuechly - next to RDS - I just died a little inside ...

joeybuck's picture

I'm always amazed at the notion that Boorland would've just jumped onboard with Ohio State because he was born around Dayton.
No need to cry about this one.
He grew up a Wisky fan. Always was a Wisky fan. His friends made fun of him in school because of it. He was never a Buckeye. 
I am so glad he graduated so this unnecessary "regret" can end, but also because he made so many great plays against us!

misterbulbous's picture

What really happened with Jordan Hall?  When Urban got here, he basically declared Hall as one of the only true athletes on the team.  He had passing skills as a back and elusiveness.  Aside from injury he seemed to become a no-show on this team.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

What really happened with Jordan Hall?

El Guapo.

zachofaltrades's picture

If not for Wilson, Hall would have gotten those touches probably.  They wanted to get Wilson the experience this year though.

misterbulbous's picture

yeah, I hear you guys.  Agree that he lost out some PT to Hyde and Wilson.  Just disappointing to see him go out like that.

I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Injuries are really what happened to Hall.  Dontre's major problem was the inability to block, so he couldn't be out there on every down.  Hall could have played that role, even if he wasn't the home run threat that Wilson was.  I'd say that Hall breaks more tackles and keeps his block and generates more success overall.

Crumb's picture

Hall will forever be remembered by this Buckeye for breaking *ichigan's backs in the 2010 War with an 85 yard kickoff return for a TD.

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Buckeyeholicwompa's picture

It will be interesting to see how Dontre is going to evolve from the 2013 season to the 2014 season after a year of PT under his belt and an off season to condition and bulk up. With Hyde and Hall now gone.....Dontre's role has to get bigger. I wouldn't say so much in the read option and hand offs we run but definitely the motion stuff and inverted veer. Dontre is going to be all over the field next year. Urban seems to like having that one playmaker that's a dangerous home run threat that defenses will key in on, in which other elements of the offense will shine when we pass or Braxton's running ability.

ABrown07's picture

he was hurt quite a bit, nagging type injuries from what I read in the columbus dispatch through the season

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zachofaltrades's picture

It's definitely time for that 2012 class to start stepping into star/leadership roles.  2010 and 2011 don't help us much with those positions of need, outside Grant at MLB.  Marcus, Perry, and Williams at LB.  Bogard, Murray, Powell, and Reeves at DB.  Thomas at WR plus the '13 guys.

zachofaltrades's picture

Doran Grant came from the '11 class.  He seems to be pretty solid.

cdub4's picture

Murray was kicked off the team before fall, and Bogard is an OLB now coming off 2 ACL tears.

cinserious's picture

Najee Murray is gone! Off the field issues. Bogard is probably gone too. Twice tore his acl.

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luckynutz's picture

Who knows with bogard...just depends on how he heals up and if he wants to risk further damage by playing any longer. He was, and will be missed though. He was a special teams dynamo...and made lots of plays in kick coverage. After the injury coverage teams didn't look quite the same if you ask me. Hopefully he can heal fully and receive a clean bill of health. Would hate to see him lose his dream because of injury. But also understand the importance of not destroying your knees even further. Tough call he will have to make.

thatlillefty's picture

He was also the first of his class to have his black stripe removed.

Poison nuts's picture

ACL tears just plain suck. 2 of them, especially on the same knee...wouldn't wish that on anyone & Bogard seems like a really good kid.

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

Vico, this is an excellent piece on its own - incisive and well-written - but it also works really reall well as a companion piece with Joe's article on the 2010 yesterday. Actually, to make sense out of what happened in 2011 and what Urbz inherited in 2012, you have to consider those two classes together.
That Ohio State was able to win 24 games in-a-row in spite of the attrition and disappointments of those two recruiting classes is a testament to Urban Meyer and the tenacity of Ohio State football.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

This is a big tell.

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CC's picture

Great article.  11W should do this annually around this time.  After a couple years it would be neat to look back.

livinginthegrey's picture

It might also help us keep some perspective about incoming classes.

Nutinpa's picture

It's too bad about Pitt Brown.
He made that great INT vs. Penn State to kill that drive...and quite frankly, sent Penn St reeling.  That was a pure, instinctive, "read the QB" play.  After that...in the games that followed, he could not reproduce himself as an INT machine as he was apparently thought of coming out of High School.

cuttyrock's picture

The two biggest loses were probably Domininc Clarke who would've started last year imho and Bell. Picture in nickel and Bell and Shazier are both on the field. I think they both could've played together.

JOhio1560's picture

It's pretty amazing how many high school talents don't pan out in college.  It really is a whole different game.  
I remember being really excited about Duron Carter.  He looked impressive in high school and I hoped he would be a first round pick by his senior year.  Too bad he didn't get his academic issues cleared up.  Might have been the difference in few a 2011 games.

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cdub4's picture

I made a post on the football board a few days ago about the 2009 and 2010 classes, it didnt come out well due to Android issues, but the fact remains... OSU did not do well in retrospect in 2009 and 2010, and it explains some of the issues OSU has had over the past few years.

Everyone who says "we have a roster full of 4 and 5 stars" or "we have more talent on defense than Michigan State" or all the other nonsense you read all the time needs to check out the list of 09 and 10 signers.

Looking at the 2009 class again, how many first round picks, top 3 round picks, or just NFL players have come or will come out of that list?

jamesrbrown322's picture

Really, look at that 2011 class, and see how much that made up for some of the misses in '09 and '10, with one glaring weakness IMO: DB!
The amount of success that can be credited to 2011 class is pretty impressive. 2012 class has already paid some dividends as well. Although, it looks like we'll probably lose Dunn and/or Ball this year to a transfer right? You gotta figure that they're looking at the depth chart and have seen a younger guy pass them up already.
Here's to hoping guys like Rod Smith, Corey Smith, Kenny Hayes, and Steve Miller figure out how to make an impact before it's too late.

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BAR43's picture

Ball will not transfer. He is still a very academically driven athlete. Although I am sure he wants to play he will stay for the education at the very least and be patient for his time on the field. As for Dunn, I am not sure, he seems more impatient and could see him transferring if jumped on the chart.

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Well done Vico! A rational approach as to why the D has had issues for the last two years. Amazing what the team still accomplished.

tdible2132's picture

Love this article and I hope all of us Buckeye fans are taking note and learning some lessons.  I for one started following recruiting about 2 years ago, and the last 2/3 classes we have brought in here at OSU have had me beyond hyped. It's easy to fall into the trap of believing that our recent recruiting classes cannot fail and are bound to be rousing successes, but clearly that's not a slam dunk. A lot of top prospects don't pan out for a myriad of reasons. This article illustrates that nobody out of high school is a sure fire bet, even if it seems like it. There are so many factors that come into play for these kids, and being talented is just a part of it.
Overall, I'm still really optimistic about the classes we've been bringing in and I have a lot of faith in our staff's ability to develop these kids. I'm just glad I read this article because it's easy to get lost in the hype sometimes, and we should all be prepared for the scenario where these classes don't live up to the expectations. I want to have realistic expectations, and the fact of the matter is not every stud we recruit is going to pan out. Let's just hope that what happened in this article doesn't happen again. We can afford to miss, but we can't afford to miss on entire position groups.

cinserious's picture

On paper, 2009 was an amazing compliment to the '08 class. Unfortunately it was doomed from the start. Alot of the fracturing was due to the Tattgate fiasco, and the atrition associated with bringing in a new head coach. There might still be more attrition but most of that mess is behind us. Moving forward.

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whobdis's picture

And lest we not forgot who ALMOST signed with us in 2009..Tajh Boyd.

jamesrbrown322's picture

Of everyone, I always was so disappointed with Bell and Berry. I remember seeing Berry in the all star games and drills, and thinking he was a budding star.
Looking back at recruiting classes always reminds of the line from Jerry Maguire regarding young athletes..."Just like popcorn kernels, some of them pop...and some of them don't."
This class is also a reminder of why not to get your hopes up about specific recruits, but rather view the class as a whole. Don't forget that Bobby Carpenter and A.J. Hawk were virtual afterthoughts compared to Mike D'Andrea, and Santonio Holmes was not even looked at as a legitimate starring WR by many when he was recruited...and that's just from one class.
Don't even get me started on how much better Justin Zwick allegedly was compared to Troy Smith. Often, the difference in championship teams is not how your 5 stars perform, it is how many of your 3 and 4 stars play like 4 or 5 star players. If you want an example...check out OSU's 2005 class.

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Ardyb's picture

I will not miss this class. Goodbye Pitt.

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Crumb's picture

Jim Bollman picked them. Ed Warinner got the most from them. That is why I'm so glad Bollman is out of here, he couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

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woodcocklives@osu's picture

He coached his way to a B1G title and Rose Bowl win.  Warinner didn't.....his line actually regressed, or just showed their true colors when they faced a legitimate defensive front.

Crumb's picture

Sparty didn't win anything this year because of Bollman, it was in spite of him. I don't believe he's their offensive line coach and if he is being around one year wasn't enough to screw up their line like he did for a decade at Ohio State. They did what the Tressel style does best don't take chances wait for the other team to screw themselves. Which is what they capitalized on in their last two games and is what we did to ourselves in the last two games. We put up better stats against MSUs D than any other team did all year but we got cute and beat ourselves same with Clemson, the only team who did better on their defense was FSU.

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Seattle Linga's picture

There were so many that left this promising class for one reason or another. So happy UFM is now steering the ship - there is no better commander for us.

45has2's picture

Great write up. It should open some peoples's eyes about talent and coaching. Also explains why Urb goes after recruiters as does Saban. Lane Kiffin may not be much of a head coach but he rarely misses on talent. Which is why Orgeron was able to win with Kiffin's kids.

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

It's not all defensive coaching.  We can all clamor for Fickell or whoever to be fired, but say they do fire someone...it might help but it won't magically fix everything.  It's about talent and sometimes, guys just have to make plays (make fun of Hoke all you want for saying "guys need to execute", but there is some truth to it).  Come September, this team will have three top-five-nationally Urban Meyer recruiting classes.  Time for those guys to step up wherever the remainder of guys from pre-Urban classes don't. 

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Exactly.  And the case in point was Boren playing LB last year.

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ghalephoto's picture

Wait we didn't offer Chris Borland and Luke Kuechly or they decided against OSU?  Can you imagine both of them playing at the same time with John Simon...wow!!

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Duron :(

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