You gotta love the fact that Herbie’s two younger sons refuse to sit in the Clemson section and, as staunch Buckeyes fans, will be rooting against their older brothers:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2019/12/28/kirk-herbstreit-family-...

If my older brother had attended TTUN, I know I would have absolutely continued rooting for Ohio State (while hoping that my brother had a reasonably good game).