The 11W Heart of It All Classic: Let's Crown the Greatest Ohioan

By Jason Priestas on March 16, 2014 at 1:57p
124 Comments

It's time to crown the greatest Ohioan.

You don't need me to tell you that Ohio is an awesome state. Perhaps the perfect state, even.

And the sons and daughters of Ohio have left their marks on the rich history of this country in the fields of business, science, the arts, sports, politics, the military and anything else in which man or woman excels.

VOTE: Business & Science | The Arts | Sports | Politics & Military

In the spirit of March Madness, we've assembled 64 entrants for The 11W Heart of It All Classic, and we're going to settle the debate of which Ohioan was the greatest, once and for all.

Entrants were required to satisfy one of these conditions for eligibility: 1) they were born in Ohio 2) they graduated high school in Ohio or 3) they spent the majority of their adult life in Ohio.

While this provides a strong field – the top seeds are Thomas Edison, Bob Hope, Jesse Owens and Ulysses S. Grant – it does exclude some that are claimed by the state. For instance, Harriet Beecher Stowe spent only 18 years of her adult life in Ohio, so she doesn't qualify. Besides, she wrote Uncle Tom's Cabin while living in Connecticut.

With that said, here are the seeds in each region:

  BUSINESS & SCIENCE THE ARTS SPORTS POLITICS & MILITARY
1 Thomas Edisonw Bob Hopew Jesse Owensw Ulysses S. Grantw
2 John D. Rockefellerw Steven Spielbergw Jack Nicklausw William Shermanw
3 The Wright Bros.w Paul Newmanw Paul Brownw John Glennw
4 Neil Armstrongw Dean Martinw Woody Hayesw Tecumsehw
5 Les Wexnerw Clark Gablew Pete Rosew Clarence Darroww
6 Ted Turnerw Dave Chappellew LeBron Jamesw Eddie Rickenbackerw
7 Dave Thomasw Roy Rogersw Cy Youngw George Custerw
8 Jack Warnerw Halle Berryw Jerry Lucasw William Howard Taftw
9 Charles Martin Hallw Woody Harrelsonw Ken Griffey Jr.w Salmon P. Chasew
10 Harvey Firestonew Randy Savagew Bobby Knightw Curtis LeMayw
11 William Procterw Drew Careyw Archie Griffinw William McKinleyw
12 Charles Ketteringw James Thurberw Jim Tresselw Warren G. Hardingw
13 George Steinbrennerw Wes Cravenw Roger Staubachw John Brownw
14 Roger Ailesw Bootsy Collinsw Don Shulaw Victoria Woodhullw
15 Larry Flyntw Annie Oakleyw Buster Douglasw John Rankinw
16 Jack Hannaw R.L. Stinew Branch Rickeyw Paul Tibbetsw

We'll kick things off Monday, Mar. 17 with voting in the Business + Science and The Arts regions. On Tuesday, we'll open up Sports and Politics + Military.

On Saturday, we'll open up the second round of voting and then start each successive round with the corresponding round of the NCAA Tournament.

Here's the bracket (click for a printable version):

The 11W Heart of It All Classic

Some of those first-round matchups will be fun to watch, like LeBron James vs. Archie Griffin. On any other site in the world, LeBron likely crushes Archie. But on 11W? And does there really have to be a loser when Paul Newman faces Bootsy Collins?

Remember to stop by to vote early and often, beginning tomorrow morning. You'll want to be able to tell your grandchildren about your role in this.

A quick note about Urban Meyer: Meyer would have qualified for this field in the Sports region, but we decided to keep him out of the tournament. You know, so it would be fair to the other 63 entrants.

124 Comments

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Damonbuckeye's picture

Why didn't anybody tell me Spielberg was from the great state of Ohio????

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route4buckeye's picture

I smell an upset in the 6-11 matchup in the Sports.

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

We all know all the 11W staff hates Lebron - this is the proof!!! No Buckeye fan could vote for Lebron over 2x Archie!!

The fix is in Archie an 11 seed? You guys drew the brackets to get rid of Lebron in the first round!

My 2 cents, Archie is the greatest Buckeye ever, there are/were scores of better RB's in the pros, & that is only 1 postion... Lebron = will be if not already -G.O.A.T. basketball player on the planet & will undeniably be one of the top 5 who ever lived - folks (Clevelanders) need to move on & appreciate our born & bred greatest ever....

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Max's picture

um, no.  until he averages a triple double for a season, he takes a backseat to oscar robertson.

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Mix's picture

I think 5-12 matchup is every bit as likely to be an upset as well!

-Mix

Ashtabula's picture

I think Urban beats Buster Douglas in the play-in game.

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DJ Byrnes's picture

WARREN GAMALIEL HARDING IS GOING TO RIDE ON HIS ENEMIES AS A PESKY NO. 12.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

buckeyeEddie27's picture

I feel like the 12 is a deliberate move to troll u man.  lol

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

route4buckeye's picture

So...

Will there be a daily post on a matchup? Or a daily poll?

AngryWoody's picture

Bootsy Collins FTW imo

Our Honor Defend!

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Deadly Nuts's picture

Archie upsets Lebron in the 6-11 for sports

LEBRON

Bradyhokescholesterol's picture

William Howard Taft is an eight seed? That's absurd. The man is the only person to be President and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

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AndyVance's picture

Agreed. Taft was a Mack Daddy.

 

saltybuck61's picture

He also got stuck in a bathtub, which, although embarrassing, is an incredible feat on its own.

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AndyVance's picture

Sure, sure... But dat 'stache tho...

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

Ditto - like the 64, but the seeding is REALLY suspect!

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

No question as to the best looking contestant on that list:

 

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Catwoman gets her disqualified. XD

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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RedStorm45's picture

Katie Holmes, Carmen Electra also from Ohio

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hit_the_couch's picture

...as is Tracy Lords, also.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

Custer is a HUGE overseed.

And how does a OSU site leave Rutherford B. Hayes out of the bracket? Not only was he the 19th president, he was critical in the founding of the university.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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BUCKSOMIES's picture

I agree Chuck.  How about a wright-in for Hayes.

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brandonbauer87's picture

Let's have some good hearted debate. You included Dave Chapelle but omitted Rob Dyrdek?

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AndyVance's picture

In the same vein, I think Roy Rogers was a glaring under seed. I love me some Chapelle, but there's no way he should have been seeded ahead of The King of the Cowboys. Especially since were there no Richard Pryor, there would be no Chapelle. Roy Rogers was the Richard Pryor of this analogy. The proverbial trailblazer, as it were.

Oakland Buckeye's picture
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bergy22's picture

John Legend must have been on the bubble
 

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Chief B1G Dump's picture

Oh no!  My man Jack Hanna drew a really tough match-up and terrible seed...

Hopefully he can improve is resume for the future.

Wexner vs Neil Armstrong is a titan round 2 matchup.

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allinosu's picture

I Don't know about that since Edison is credited with some of Tesla's work.

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BrooklynBuckeye's picture

Larry Flint has the swollen confidence and hustle to pull off an upset. I think he rubs out Rockefeller.

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Ashtabula's picture

Urban is disqualified because his hometown of Ashtabula must be too close to heaven, thus not meeting the born in Ohio requirement.

Nappy's picture

As a Dayton native I gotta pull for the Wright Bros.

And this is a cool idea.

Fan of bacon since 1981

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buckeyejonross's picture

Why am I not seeded?

"You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over." -William T., Battle of Atlanta, B1G.

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harleymanjax's picture

As much as I love Tress he is no match for PETER EDWARD ROSE!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

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2002osubuck's picture

Sorry but I disagree, Tressel over Rose. He won the 1st national championship in 38 years for the most important team in the state. 

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KBonay's picture

wanna bet on it?

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saltybuck61's picture

It will be tough for Rose I am afraid. The majority of people here are Ohio State fans, and there is a split here with MLB. Therefore, regardless of who deserves it, I think Tress wins in an overwhelming vote.

Oakland Buckeye's picture

one of many tiltes at tOSU... 4 words... ALL TIME HITS KING...

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faux_maestro's picture

6 words.......

 

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

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Carson's picture

Nice Sigur Ros signature!

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

His betting had nothing to do with his hits.... guessing your a Barry Bonds fan...

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faux_maestro's picture

No. I love Pete but sorry I can't vote for him for anything at this point.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

Ultrabuckeyehomer's picture

While I know it's very difficult to cull the field down to this number, I cannot fathom how every president isn't included in the politics bracket. We have more than any other state and, in politics, is there a higher ceiling? My only beef with the list. Although I think Fraze and Patterson should have made the science/business bracket as well. 

My two cents: grant needs to take it home. We may not have an America we know without his appointment by Lincoln. And, he did it drunk! 

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Crumb's picture

Grant ordered thousands of men into battle and to horrific deaths and he had to watch, that'd be enough to make any decent person drink a liquor store a week.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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One Bad Buckeye's picture

Actually a lot of them could be considered boys....but I definitely agree with you.  Either way, I'd be getting demolished at the thought of sending that many young men to their demise.  

"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."

Oakland Buckeye's picture

Agreed - EVERY Pres should be on here...

BroJim's picture

Ohio Forever!

Rockefeller is not Ohio proper, he should not be so high.

I season my simple food with hunger

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shamgod's picture

This is awesome!

I want Grant or Darrow to win. I bet Archie or Owens does though.

How Spielberg is behind Hope is beyond me.

A little cringey to see LeMay and Tibbets on the list, though I guess they deserve it.

 

Crumb's picture

You may not like how they did it but LeMay and Tibbets had a huge part in ending the bloodiest war in human in history.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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shamgod's picture

Well, I'm not 100% sure. The Japanese military didn't seem to give a shit about its civilians. When LeMay burned down Tokyo, killing 100,000 people, they never considered surrendering. You could argue that the Soviets entering the war was the bigger reason Hirohito surrendered.

That said, I don't view Hiroshima as this unparalleled evil act by any means—the Japanese were nearly as bad as the Nazis, and I'd say Truman was obligated to save as many U.S. servicemen as he could. I would've done the same thing.

Tibbets was just following orders, and shouldn't be "blamed" for wiping out a whole city. But celebrating him for it seems gross to me.

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Crumb's picture

The point of (not to sound cold blooded but from a strategic or tactical standpoint) of killing civilians is the hope that they'll either over throw their government, demand peace, or that very least no longer be able to contribute to the war effort. I don't think the Soviets declaring war on Japan mattered much to them, the Soviets were happy to take Manchuria and probably wouldn't have gone any further than Korea. The Japanese were as evil as the Nazis (if you don't believe me ask the Chinese) the only difference is the Nazi's were more industrious and a little less brain washed (Nazism had been in place a few decades where as the Japanese system of worshipping the Emperor had been around for centuries). Truman did save plenty of U.S. serviceman my grandfather included (he was in Europe awaiting orders to be shipped to Japan). If Tibbets is to be celebrated it should be for the same reason Eddie Rickenbacker is, not for kill count but for numerous successful missions in the face of a dangerous and determined enemy (Tibbets flew a quota of missions over Nazi Europe before moving on to the Pacific).

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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shamgod's picture

I don't think we're too far apart here.

I don't think bombing civilian centers in Germany, Japan, or Britain (leaving aside the atomic bombs) shortened the war by one day. So ultimately LeMay's contributions were pretty marginal. However, that's hindsight, so I wouldn't argue that either side was wrong to try.

As for the Soviets, I personally would have been quite worried, seeing what they had done to the Nazis. The Japanese army had what, a million soldiers in China? Who's to say Stalin wouldn't have wanted to take China too? If we hadn't opened a second front, I think he would have marched all the way to the Atlantic and turned Western Europe into satellite states as well.

We are agreed about the evil of the Japanese military. They murdered millions of civilians, tortured POWs, and had contempt for everyone, including their own civilians.

I'm not going to say anything bad about Tibbets. Like I said, if I were Truman I would have done the same thing. But if people vote for Tibbets, it's to celebrate Hiroshima, which shouldn't be celebrated.

Both of my grandfathers fought against the Nazis. No idea if they would have been transferred to the Pacific, but we shouldn't have risked one more person to defeat Japan than we absolutely had to. I'm glad your grandfather didn't have to go.

Barnsey69's picture

Paul is my daughter's great-grandfather, and I knew him pretty well in his later years. One of the most interesting things about his most famous mission, is that many Pacific Theatre WWII veterans who would have been involved in a mainland invasion of Japan do hold him in high regard because they do credit the Hiroshima mission as the final catalyst for ending the war, and therefore saving their lives. I have seen men cry when they meet him, and that is what they would tell him. He always said that he was just following orders, and he would have followed them 1,000 times over if directed to do so. His military record prior to that mission was stellar, as you point out, and that is why he was selected to form, train the squadron, and execute the Hiroshima mission in the first place. If he were alive today, I'm pretty sure his comment on this contest would be something like this:

"Well hell, I am not trying to win any popularity contests and more importantly I'm from Illinois."

That said, he did live here for many years and was one of the founding members of Net Jets, as well as one of the finest soldiers to ever serve in our military.

 

Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes!

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Crumb's picture

Kind of surprising to see Archie is the only OSU football player in this bracket. Maybe we could throw out an all football bracket too since our hoops team is so heart wrenching this year.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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Travis's picture

Thomas Edison should be upset by Hanna...

Here's why: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla

They need a 2 to tie, a 3 to win it; Sylvester for threeeee... OOOOOOOOOHHHHHH OHHHHHHHHHHH WITH FIVE POINT ONE TO GO!!!

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saltybuck61's picture

I have read the comic several times, and it is well done. Definitely enlightening and funny. However, it is worth looking at the response to the comic by Alex Knapp from Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/05/18/nikola-tesla-wasnt-god-and-thomas-edison-wasnt-the-devil/

The author of the oatmeal also responded to this response, and is again worth reading: http://theoatmeal.com/blog/tesla_response

The language may be a bit NSFW in the second link, but it is interesting to see the opinions of the two sides.

I personally believe that they were both instrumental in creating the daily life of the 20th century and beyond.

lamplighter's picture

where the heck is Joe Walsh?

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M Man's picture

Rick Derringer; solo star after his career as the teenage leader of the McCoys.  You remember the McCoys; they had a hit called "Hang on Sloopy."

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hit_the_couch's picture

I prefer to remember little Ricky Zehringer (his real last name) by his hit 'Rock n Roll Hoochie Koo'....lordy mama light my fuse. Epic track from the movie 'Dazed and Confused.'

''You know what I like about those high schools girls? I get older, they stay the same age!"

-Wooderson aka Matthew McConaughey

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

osuguy2008's picture

That first round matchup between Edison and Hanna will be interesting considering that Hanna is considered a jack ass from people who have worked around him and Edison was not the grandfather figure that he was portrayed. He was threatened by alternating current and did everything he could to lie and distort the truth to put others out of business. He was one of the original crony capitalists.  Our modern electrical capabilities are due to George Westinghouse and Nikola Tesla

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AndyVance's picture

How dare you besmirch the name of Jungle Jack! I have this childish idolization thing of him going, and I can't tolerate hearing anything that doesn't play into that little hero zookeeper thing.

And you're right on the money with the Tesla thing.

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Go1Bucks's picture

I sorta like electric lights and phonographia/music... and while Im at it, the Electric Light Orchestra.  Edison wins for me.

Go Bucks!

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osuguy2008's picture

Then you should thank Tesla... Edison's way of bringing electricity to the masses would never have worked logistically. Basically, you would have needed your own power generator just to light a lightbulb.

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Go1Bucks's picture

Dude... you took all the funny out of the comment.  Quit harshin' my mellow and enjoy the game.

 

 

(see, someone agreed with me)

Go Bucks!

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iball's picture

The Wright brothers a three seed behind BOB HOPE??!!

Shennanigans!!!

The frickin inventors of the air plane behind a wise cracking golfer??

wow...just wow

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

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AngryWoody's picture

 

Our Honor Defend!

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iball's picture

No Jerry Springer?

 

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

419BuckI's picture

As a resident of the 419 I am respectfully protesting the brackets. Apparently Columbus is the SEC football of Ohio. No Danny Thomas? No Jamie Farr? He was Klinger for Christ's sake! No Jimmie Jackson? No Edward Libby? (The father of the modern glass business) Lets just hope the national championship committee does a better job than this next year.

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M Man's picture

The Selection Committee left out Charles Woodson.

Ohio "Mr. Football."  Heisman Trophy; the first-ever defensive winner.  Big Ten Championship ring.  National Championship ring.  Pro Bowl in three different decades. Super Bowl ring.  Philanthropist.  By rights, he'd be no less than a 2- or 3-seed.

 

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shamgod's picture

Haha, ouch. Fair points though. I'd sub out Buster Douglas and put him in at #15.

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shamgod's picture

And he would get like two votes.

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M Man's picture

...and they would both be downvotes.  From David Boston.  He'd use one of his friends' laptops for the second vote.

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BuckeyeChief's picture

M Man, you are a great dude, but R U SERIOUS???
Is the greatest "Michigan Man" going to include Craig Krenzel????

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

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Deadly Nuts's picture

Krenzel won a real championship as well....

LEBRON

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M Man's picture

lol Krenzel.  I so deserved that.

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saltybuck61's picture

Charles Woodson was excellent, but there are a few others who may be just as deserving, but far more well accepted on this site. Like Troy Smith, the Heisman Trophy winning quarterback who beat Michigan three straight years as a starter. Or perhaps Jim Brown. I do not know if he would qualify for this list though.

Regardless, there are plenty of Buckeyes that people would rather see. Also, putting him at a 2 or a 3 seed is far too high. Lebron James is only a 6. There is no way Charles Woodson would be higher than Lebron.

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Barnsey69's picture

Never heard of him.

Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes!

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GoBucksToledo's picture

Left out for obvious reasons, no additional commentary necessary.

Rapping Bum's picture

If this final isn't Macho Man Randy Savage vs William Tecumseh Sherman, I will be disappointed.

Help is on the way.

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BuckeyeChief's picture

I love this! tough to comment on here much do to limited underway bandwidth, but this is great!

 

"Damn I miss El Guapo"

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hit_the_couch's picture

How could you leave Gerald Levert and the Isley Brothers off that list? No Angie Everhart or Miss May 2001? Shame on you.

No Jerry Springer?

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Colby3333's picture

Wth?  No David Allen Coe or Johnny Paycheck?

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lvccacamcrca's picture

WOW! Between this and my NCAA  Bracket I am not gonna get much done this week

lvccacamcrca's picture

Hey M Man! He gave up all rights and benefits the moment he put on that ugly ass uniform that he played college football in.

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Denny's picture

I am going to assume you didn't want red hot conflicts of interest, so that's why you left me out of the science bracket. 

Taquitos.

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VintonCountyBuck's picture

As a resident of Chillicothe..I almost feel obligated to object to the low seeding of Tecumseh and the complete omission of Edward Tiffin.  Almost.

Let's Go Archie!  You've got this.

“Right now, Michigan is not at the pinnacle of college football, and that’s all Urban Meyer cares about...He’s been there and knows what it takes to get there.” 

lamplighter's picture

I'm sorry - but Bob Hope was born in England - If you let him in, why not Gary Williams or William Henry Harrison (Virginia born) or Eddie George

Crumb's picture

Cause Bob Hope dotted the 'i'.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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NitroBuck's picture

Not to mention Jesse Owens was from Alabama.  His drawl was so pronounced when he moved to Cleveland at age 9, his teacher mistook his pronunciation of his name (J C) for Jesse.  So if Bob Hope and Jesse Owens are included, why not Joe Walsh (born in Kansas)?

Ferio.  Tego.

DLJad's picture

It is difficult to think the winner could/should come from Sports or The Arts.  How does Paul Tibbets receive a 16? Tecumseh is a very solid 4.

This will be great fun!  The next contest should be comprised of the top 64 11W commenters.  BuckFly would be a top 4 seed.

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45has2's picture

Woody Harrelson was born in Texas, did not move to Ohio until he was 12. He is what Terrelle Pryor might call a fake ass Buckeye.

"I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people." -W.W. Hayes

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KBonay's picture

Woody Harrelson PLAYED Larry Flint.....

 

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PittBuckeye's picture

Ulysses S. Grant has to win. According to ESPN he was the last B1G'er to whoop the entire SEC's ass.

Edit: Before someone wants to ruin my joke I'm aware he went to West Point.

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BuckFly's picture

The competition between 1 & 2 seeds, Grant and Sherman, will be epic. 

"I intend to make Georgia howl." -Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman, quoted on his option run through the South. 

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M Man's picture

Clarence Darrow; Michigan Law attendee.  Was Branch Rickey (also Michigan Law) overlooked?  One of the greatest figures in American sport in the 20th century.  US-23 near Delaware is the Branch Rickey Highway.  Born and raised in Ohio, graduated from Ohio Wesleyan, Michigan Law School and baseball team coaching.  The man who signed Jackie Robinson and broke the color barrier.

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DLJad's picture

You knocked it out of the park with the Branch Rickey comments!

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

Rickey made it! Originally from Portsmouth - so I will have a tough time not "pullin for my homie"

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M Man's picture

Yeah, my bad.  Branch Rickey; the Number 16 seed paired against Jesse Owens.  Oh that is so cruel.

 

 

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Go1Bucks's picture

This is an EPIC idea!

But Im gonna have a hell of a time with Cy Young/Bobby Knight choice.  Damn!

Go Bucks!

NitroBuck's picture

Tie breaker between Cy Young and Bobby Knight?  Cy Young played his college ball at Marshall.

Ferio.  Tego.

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Go1Bucks's picture

Good point!

Go Bucks!

Furious George 27's picture

William Tecumseh Sherman all the way….. He made the South his bitch.

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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hetuck's picture

Sorry to see Judah Folkman omitted. Buckeye who built the foundation for potential cancer cures.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

ULuvLucy's picture

Bros before Ailes!

How exactly will voting work anyway?

BrutusBlock O

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40 Degrees North's picture

A potential second round matchup between General Curtis LeMay and General William Tecumseh Sherman.

Bombs away vs. Scorched earth 

The refs better get control of that one quickly before it gets out of hand. 

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OhioValley10's picture

No Jimmy "The Greek" Snyder? 

buckeyebowhunter's picture

This bracket challenge is all kinds of awesome.  WTG again 11w staff.

ULuvLucy's picture

Well like I said on Twitter, as it is wont to do, my brain turned this into an epic Celebrity Deathmatch showdown. I may have gotten over-zealous. Here's a PDF of my early write-up. Zoom in for full effect. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwR2m7e2EZv7cVdpbldDQkE2MEE/edit?usp=sharing

BrutusBlock O

Qujo's picture

Sherman did burn the SEC didn't he? I know who I got!

"Tough times don't last, tough people do" - Gregory Peck

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Spider1944's picture

I was thinking sports and the first two men I thought of were Jesse Owens and Jack Nicklaus, and in that order.. Ji

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

TraptnMI's picture

This little known fact may hurt Grant's chances of moving on. Grant despised hunting and considered it an act of murder.  A  ballsy statement for back in the day. He didn't mind hunting the ultimate duck dynasty prey type thank goodness! HILLBILL season.

" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "

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Stinson's picture

This tournament is judged on who is the better OHIOAN, not the more popular figure, right?

PREDICTION: Archie Griffin 268, LeBron James, 7

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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Jpfbuck's picture

I think these things are fun but seriously some of the name here,,,

first Bob Hope doesn't meet any of your 3 criteria and you have him as a #1 seed, he was born in the UK, moved to Cleveland when he was 5, never graduated HS as he dropped out during his sophomore year at Cleveland East to go on the Vaudeville circuit and lived the overwhelming majority of his 100 years in California.

To me you should need to be born in Ohio to be claimed as an Ohioan otherwise it is a very arbitrary list, hence Griffey Jr (born in Danora, PA and didn't move to Ohio until he was 6) would be eliminated

Tecumseh, although supposedly born near modern day Chillicothe was born 35 years before Ohio was a state, hence out too.

Jack Hanna was born in TN and didn't move to Ohio permanently until he was nearly 31 years old, hence out in my book,

John Brown, born in CT, lived most of his life outside Ohio and I have not seen any record of him ever gradating from and Ohio HS, didn't move to Ohio until he was 5 years old, left the state when he was 16, then came back for a while living off and on in Ohio in his 20' and 30's, would move to Mass when 46 and lived the last decade of his life outside Ohio, so he hardly counts

Jack Warner was born in Canada and didn't move to Ohio until he was 6, not certain if he ever graduated HS and left Ohio to from Warner Bros studios.

Woody Harrelson was born in TX, didn't move to Ohio until he was 12 years old and left after HS son he only lived the Buckeye state for about 6 years of his 50+ total.

Williams Proctor was born in the UK and didn't move to Ohio until he was 31 years old, heck under that Criteria your list should include Johnny Bench as he lived the majority of his life in ohio

 

I means seriously this list essentially includes anyone who ever lived in Ohio, not really a list of "great Ohioans" to my mind

 

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DJ Byrnes's picture

Bob Hope - immigrated to Cleveland at age 5, raised there as a child and is one of the few non-band members to dot the "i." That last fact can't be overstated.

Woody Harrelson - lived in Lebanon, graduated from Lebanon High School and worked at Kings Island as a woodmaker after HS for a time.

You're going against Tecumseh because he lived in Ohio before Ohio was a state? Smh.

Jack Warner, immigrated to Youngstown at age 4.

John Brown, lived in Ohio from 5 to 16 before leaving for college.

Jack Hanna, has lived in Columbus a majority of his adult life and is one of Columbus' most recognizable celebrities.

Procter immigrated to Ohio at 31... where he founded Procter and Gamble in Cincinnati and died there at age 82. Majority of adult life.

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This is a subjective list, obviously. No matter who people included, there were still going to be arguments about seeding/not making the cut. That's part of the beauty of the tournament. Do some people have deeper connections to Ohio than others? Of course. How much does that matter to the public? We're about to find out.

 

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Jpfbuck's picture

I guess my problem is not some much that it is subjective but that in this process some obviously born Ohioans are left off the list

Like Eddie Arcaro, twice won the triple crown as a jockey and in the Jockey HOF, from Cincinnati

Ambrose Bierce who was born in Meigs County, Daniel Beard, (founder of the Boy Scouts) from Cincinnati, Erma Bombeck famous columnist from Dayton, Tracey Chapman singer of "Fast Car" from Cleveland, Tim Conway, comedic actor from Willoughby, Larry Czsonka from Stow, Dorothy Dandridge from Cleveland, Phil Donahue from Cleveland, Poet Paul Dunbar, (who the HS is named after) from Dayton, Harlan Ellison (attended OSU) from Cleveland, Teri Garr actress from Lakewood, Zane Gray from Zanesville, Kenisaw Mountain Landis, long time baseball commissioner from Millvile, James Lovell astronaut from Cleveland, Edwin Moses, 2 time Gold Medal winner, set world record with 107 consecutive finals wins From Dayton, Jack Parr talk show host Canton, Judy Resnick astronaut Akron, Arthur Schlesinger Sr historian OSU grad!! Taught at OSU from Xenia or his son A Schlesinger Jr born in Columbus a 2 time Pulitzer prize winner, Dave Grohl, Drummer for Nirvana and singer for Foo Fighter from Warren

so there were plenty of famous and great Ohioans without going thru the conceit of using people not actually born in Ohio to set up a 64 person format

Nicholas Jervey's picture

Most of the people you mention here were considered and just failed to make the cut. The Celebrity regional is really, really stacked. And as a former Boy Scout, I was feeling miffed by Daniel Beard's absence until I saw Simon Kenton made the list.

Philosophically, there are several criteria to determine who qualifies for the tournament to avoid missing some really obvious inclusions. For instance, should Wilbur Wright be excluded because was born in Millville, Indiana? How could we include Orville but not Wilbur Wright?

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hit_the_couch's picture

Dave Chappelle should be eliminated as well; he was born and grew up in the DC metro. He lives here now but didn't spend any time here til '91 when his parents divorced, and he was 18. I read he just spent summers with his dad in Greene County. I don't know when he officially moved here.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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bedheadjc's picture

Love his stuff but agree he shouldn't be included.

741's picture

I happily accept Dave as an Ohioan.

 

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Carson's picture
His motivation as he rolls through this bracket....
Sherman is a Hoss

 

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AngryWoody's picture

A true Ohioan.

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