If It Hadn't Been Urban: Five Alternatives

By DJ Byrnes on February 12, 2014 at 3:34p
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Ohio State football is officially out of the NCAA's jailhouse for the heinous cover-up of athletes receiving discounted and free tattoos and selling their own memorabilia. Honestly, I'm still shocked Jim Tressel and Terrelle Pryor avoided federal indictment. 

Ohio State, on the other hand, is primed to dominate the Big Ten as we move into the College Football Playoff era. (The '14 the Dream class had more Rivals Top 100 players than the rest of the B1G combined.) Obviously, Urban Meyer's fingerprints are all over the budding juggernaut in Columbus.

What's been lost in going 24-2 in Urban's first two years is how lucky Ohio State was in Urban Meyer being a free agent when the Jim Tressel era went up in a blaze of FOIA-requestable emails. 

Thankfully for Ohio State, Urban Meyer had temporarily left football and was working as an analyst for ESPN. Thankfully for Ohio State, Meyer undoubtedly saw how ripe the B1G was for the picking. 

But what if Urban Meyer had semi-retired to the media side of football forever? To whom would Ohio State have turned?

Allow me to don my Les Wexner du-rag and pretend I am now a billionaire/angel alumnus of Ohio State. Here are my five picks, and yes, I'm only interested in established head coaches:

Bert Beliema, Arkansas Coach

Bert Beliema

In 2011, Bert Beliema was still coach at Wisc— Actually I can't even joke about this. Sorry. 

Nick Saban

Nick Saban

Nick Saban wasn't as firmly entrenched at Alabama in 2011 as he is now. Sure, he was coming off his second BCS title at Alabama, but I'm a firm believer in the simple principle that every man has his price.

How much would it have taken to pry Saban from the greasy, diabetic fingers of Alabama? I don't know, but I would have kept backing up the Brinks trucks until Nick Saban accepted.

And make no mistake, Nick Saban would have accepted because he is a ruthless mercenary, a.k.a. the perfect person to lead a college football team in this era. 

My only qualm with Saban would be, could he succeed in the Big Ten? After all, besides a 9-2 season in 1999, his best record with Sparty was 7-5. He didn't even lead the Spartans to a bowl game in the year they knocked off No. 1 Ohio State.

I also have concerns about his ability to recruit without the significant advantage of oversigning. He enjoyed zero competitive advantages in the BIg Ten and the NFL, and he was decidedly mediocre. 

Les Miles

Les Miles

Les Miles intrigues me because I have always wanted a shaman to coach my favorite college football team. Whether he's wishing everybody a Happy Columbus Daya Merry Christmas or running a red light during an interview, Les Miles is wrapped in nothing but intrigue. He would be electric in Columbus; I would get him a Brutus chia pet to feed his grass-nibbling habits for games in the Horseshoe.

Personally, I think he's the best troll in college football. Unlike Hatin' Ass Spurrier, Les Miles is a true troll in that he's subtle. Most of the time, you're completely unsure if you're being trolled at all. This is why I love him.

Miles is a master recruiter and motivator. He has won a national title. His hiring also would have brought in a flood of tears from Ann Arbor since Michigan was forced to hire Brady Hoke after being spurned by Miles. 

This would have led to theories that Les Miles was a Michigan Man Manchurian Candidate, programmed in a lab by Bo Schembechler as part of Woody Hayes' ultimate plan to smash Michigan.

Mark Dantonio in happier times

Mark Dantonio

I truly believe if Urban Meyer had turned down Ohio State or hadn't been available, an all-out assault would have been launched for Jim Tressel's dark apprentice, Mark Dantonio.

Dantonio might say Michigan State is a destination program now, but he hadn't yet won the Rose Bowl in 2011. The man has been a winner at every school at which he's stopped.

And I promise you this much: the 2013 Silver Bullets wouldn't have been firing blanks for a majority of last year. 

Pete Carroll Robber Baron

Pete Carroll 

Carroll was coming off his first year as coach of the Seattle Seahawks in 2011, and much like Saban, he is a blood-thirsty mercenary. Had the NCAA's Pinkertons not been in the process of knocking down USC's door, I doubt Carroll would have ever left college. 

The man is another beast on the recruiting trail and master motivator. Athletes gravitate to him. His defense at USC was almost as impressive as his defense in Seattle. Most importantly, the man is willing to walk in the gray area of the NCAA's archaic rulebook. (The fall-out at USC would have only made Carroll more ingenious in skirting the rules.)

I would have pushed for his installment as head coach and watched the NCAA wring their hands like spectators at a sporting event. The NCAA would have had about as much effect on the final outcome as those spectators as well. "Show cause" penalty, my ass.

 

Chip Kelly

(Trigger warning: the video contains a cuss word, but also shows you how G'd out Chip Kelly is.)

And here, if I were an angel alumnus, is where I would have truly left my mark on Ohio State football: by spending whatever it took to wrangle Chip Kelly away from Phil Knight's splicing of an athletic conglomerate and a college football program.

I love Chip Kelly and the way he looks to bend traditional thoughts on how football offenses should be run. I love the way he makes sportswriters cry with his churlish smugness. I love the types of players he recruits. I also love how nobody really knows anything personal about Chip Kelly other than he's an offensive guru. 

As Joe laid bare today, the popular saying "defense wins championships" is a myth, especially in college football. Nobody runs an offense better than Chip Kelly. 

He would have been my No. 1 option to replace Luke Fickell. 


Would I take any of these men over Urban Meyer? No, I wouldn't, but that goes back to just how fortunate Ohio State was that Urban Meyer was available when they needed to hire a new coach.

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BucksfanXC's picture

I agree with all of this.

I think the Darrell Hazells of the world never really had a chance. We were going to make a big splash. We did. But these were the other possible splashes.

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osusteveb5875's picture

I think there was a major one missed... Bo Pelini.. Although now he doesn't look like he would have been a great choice, at the time, he was an up and coming coach.

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Johnny_Buck71's picture

This was worth the read just to see the not-so-subtle likeness to our buddy Bert. 

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Buckabroad's picture

You mean that wasn't a photo?

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Denny's picture

Chip Kelly was my dream other scenario for two reasons: 1) it would have been awesome football to watch, and 2) it would have taken all of the 'DURR URBAN DON'T PLAY NO DEFENSE THE SPREAD IS NOT MANBALL' angst up about a billion percent, which would have delighted me.

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BTwrestle04's picture

I've heard he is absolutely terrible with alumni relations and dealing with the press and everything. That type of thing won't fly at OSU. I understand your sarcasm, just saying.

hit_the_couch's picture

SPREAD IS NOT MANBALL'

 

Nevermind that 8 of 12 schools in the B1G run a spread, and the majority of CFB does too.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

1MechEng's picture

DJ -

Did you really mean to say "Bert at OSU"?! That thought makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Even in 2011 he was a douchebag.

Plus, I don't think I ever heard his name thrown around when Fickell was being replaced. He just wasn't even on the radar in my opinion.

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

You have been trolled Mad Hatter Style.   

 

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45has2's picture

It made me fill a kitchen trash can with vomit.

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1MechEng's picture

Here's a good link to an article about 15 likely candidates to take over the head coaching reins in 2012. Note that Bert wasn't on the list, but Jerry Kill was.

Interesting that you didn't list Bob Stoops or Jon Gruden in your article ...

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CarolinaBuck's picture

Looking at this list it just goes to show that in college football, there really is a defined group of truly elite coaches because no one is even close to Urban on that list. 

NeilAve's picture

Good post. Hindsight having Tim Beckman on the list wasn't as good as candidate as first thought. I guess he was having a good year at Toledo at the time of the search and he was a buckeye coach under Tres. but still... I think we dodged a bullet here.
 

AndyVance's picture

As conflicted as we were with the hiring of Urban Meyer at the time (let's not forget, we all thought he was an evil man, 'cause 41-14), I'm pretty sure the hiring of Pete Carroll would have brought the same reaction with similar results. It's a fascinating thought exercise.

Boy am I happy with how things turned out.
 

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Poison nuts's picture

I always loved him because 41-14. Let me know right there & then he was the coach I wanted should my beloved JT ever leave.

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

No Bob Stoops?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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DJ Byrnes's picture

Bob Stoops has never done much for me. Fine coach, without a doubt, but I'd rather have those five.

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Miles and Mark Dantoni over Stoops? Why?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

bleedscarlet's picture

Seriously? Miles over Stoops?  No man that ever roamed a UM sideline should ever be the HC at OSU...

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oregonianbuckeye's picture

Pete Carroll robber baron is amazing. Here's hoping he shows up to the first pre-season game with that outfit. This is a really good list, but I'm not sure who would have come other than Dantonio and Bert. Chip "I look like I stole a cookie from the cookie jar" would have led to amazing, record setting offenses, and teams that couldn't win the big game. All in all, I'm happy with UFM!

buckeyestu's picture

Bert? There goes my supper, damn. Where is the toilet for me to puke. 

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Buckeye in Illini country's picture

My first reaction to the headline. The offseason is too long. 

Columbus to Pasadena: 35 hours.  We're on a road trip through the desert looking for strippers and cocaine... and Rose Bowl wins!

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PittBuckeye's picture

Miles Carol, and Chipper never would have happened, but it's a fun list. I think Saban would have done just fine at OSU, but I'm not sure he would have come either I think he's all about winning as many titles as possible so everyone calls him the greatest college coach ever and that's easier to do at Bama quicker than it is at OSU. He'd had that program stacked to the gills with talent already.

I thought at the time Dantonio would have ended up here if not for Urban, and still do.

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UrbanPirate's picture

Winning titles easier at Bama than at Ohio State?? I'm as big a SEC hater as the next guy, but let's be realistic-Running through the B1G (and I'd say even more so back then than now) would be a cake walk for Saban compared to the SEC west schedule on a yearly basis. And also, you say Bama was "stacked to the gills with talent" as if the Buckeyes hadn't also been an annual fixture in recruiting top 10 lists. 

Just... Go Bucks.

    

d1145fresh's picture

That .gif of Pete Carroll will never not be funny. Also I actually would have been okay with any of these coaches. Don't get me wrong I think Urban is the cream of this crop but there are no misses when it comes to these guys.

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DJ Byrnes's picture

Agreed, it's a classic GIF. I was searching for a pic to use and then I realized... I had the perfect one already bookmarked.

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cinserious's picture

Nice writeup, I feel that much better knowing we have UFM as our head coach. I'm am wondering how much of a ruthless mercenary Saban is though, considering he stayed at 'Bama  instead of accepting the Fort Knox-like cash Texas would've gave him. If 'Bama matched them then I hope it completely breaks the bank down there for a looooooong time.

BTW, that Pete Carroll gif had me laughing like a madman for the first time in a long time! I'm about to go watch it again.

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BuckeyeNation_330's picture

Nice choices other than Ernie's side kick Bert.  Dantonio would've been number 1 for me personally. How about Charlie Strong, Will Muschamp, or Mike Gundy??? Either way this is the type of thread I don't want to think about.

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bleedscarlet's picture

I thought about Strong also, not sure if his success was as evident at that time though.

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vitaminB's picture

At the time I was almost certain that it would be someone I had never heard of, much like the Tressell hire.  I will admit that I wanted Jon Gruden because, you know, I breath through my mouth sometimes.

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TMac's picture

Timing is everything! And tOSU and UFM had great timing for their mutual course changes!!

You also gotta think Arkansas is wishing they could go back in time and make a better choice!!

Barnsey69's picture

I used to blog on FOX Sports years ago (I've come a long way obviously), right around the time Florida was beating us at everything, and my main foil at the time was a hardcore Gator fan. I told him that Urban Meyer coached games with a buckeye in his pocket, and had an out clause for OSU in his contract. I could confirm neither at the time, but that didn't matter it was sufficient enough to fire up my Gator buddy, and provide me with a few hours of entertainment from the other Gators on the site. 

Now fast forward to 2011, I am no longer blogging on FOX, but my buddy has his own blog and I am able to once again infer that Urban was indeed only making a pit-stop in the minors while he served time in that soggy ladder-rung known as Gainsville. So, being partially right about Urban (prove that I wasn't Gator-turd!) and in fact getting our dream-coach makes me want to distance my self from any sort of consideration regarding a Buckeye Nation minus UFB, because as I pointed out to my Gator pal, it was meant to be...(cue dramatic NFL Films music).

Agree with the list all the same.

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osu07asu10's picture

I truly believe if Urban Meyer had turned down Ohio State or hadn't been available, an all-out assault would have been launched for Jim Tressel's dark apprentice, Mark Dantonio.

Maybe tOSU would have put a full court press on for Dino but I really don't think that to be the case. For starters, I think the higher ups (Wexner, Schottenstein, Schumate) wanted to cut ties completely with Tressel (I know some staffers still remain) and hiring one of his closest friends certainly would not have done that.

Secondly, without explicitly stating as much, Dino was pretty ticked off about how Coach Tressel was treated and under no circumstance could I have seen Dantonio accepting his former mentor's job. At the time he said,

“Very heart-wrenching for me and my family because we’re so close to Coach Tress, Every person he’s come in contact with as a player and a coach, he’s made a positive impact on their lives. To me, it’s tragic. He becomes a tragic hero in my respect, in my view. Usually, tragic heroes have the ability to rise above it all in the end, and that’s what I’ll look for in the end.”

Coach D would have been my choice if not for Urban, I just don't believe he was a realistic option for tOSU, nor was tOSU a realistic option for him.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

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Barnsey69's picture

Good points, makes a lot of sense.

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SaudiBuckeye's picture

I do not believe that Nick Saban would have come to tOSU nor did I think he was going to Texas because the probability of reaching the NCG is diminished, not only for both these teams, but any non-ESecPN team. Yep, add USC to the list.

Think about it.

1.  He can't perform his oversigning shenanigans in either B1G or BIG 12 to the extent he does in the SEC resulting in constantly weeding out the "underperforming" talent. Coupled with the less stringent acceptance requirements he clearly has a competitive advantage.

2.  Both conferences won't have their teams hyped by ESecPN thus inflating the team's SOS and ensuring a high ranking irrespective of a loss or two.

3.  There is no way that a non SEC team can even think of making it to the NCG with a one-loss and/or not having played in their Conference CG. Heck, there was an ongoing discussion that a 2-loss Alabama should play the SEC CG winner in if both tOSU and FSU lost!

No my friends, Nick Saban aint going anywhere soon, the Alabama gig is too sweet to give up.

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ronbizi's picture

I can't say I'm an expert on Alabama, but I've lived in Huntsville AL, Columbus OH, and Dallas TX with several visits to Austin.  If location had anything to do with the decision, University of Alabama would be last on my list.

BuckGnome's picture

I wanted Dantonio had we not landed Urban.

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brylee's picture

Looking back, the possibility of not getting Urban, has absolutely never crossed my mind.  I don't want to think about it...lalalalalalalalalala!

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buckeyejma's picture

I can remember when John Cooper was given the pink slip, and OSU went a calling, all the big time coaches didn't seem so interested in us and our program, Jim Tressel was a plan B type coach, because of his small college ties and lack of major college coaching, but boy did he come in turn the program around.  As for Urban he was the very best fit for us and we were very lucky he was ready to return to coaching.

 

                                                                               Move over Nick, Urban is the real rock star!

Step aside Nick, Urban is the real rock star!

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osu07asu10's picture

Actually, the main candidates that I remember being interviewed all had buckeye ties except for one. It was a national search for an "Ohio-centric" coach. They interviewed Pagac, Spielman, Glen Mason, and Jim Tressel.

The one coach that was not a Buckeye was Mike Bellotti.  Gieger courted Bellotti pretty hard and Bellotti visited Columbus but by most reports Bellotti wasn't sure of the big city environment and the decision to move forward was mutual on both sides.

 

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

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Crumb's picture

This makes me even more thankful for UFM. Dantonio would have been good but just a continuation of Tresselball (which won but drove me insane). Kelly is an Urban wannabe and it may have worked. Miles; Never, Screw blue always. Saban: Could've accepted him grudgingly (kind of like I did Urban till he went undefeated in year one). Bert: Not a chance. (Why is he called Bert by the way, here in Cincy we just called him Chump Bielama). Pete Carroll: Never. If he had become Coach it would have been like watching Ben Affleck be Batman. That much of a train wreck. Thank heavens for Urban Freaking Meyer.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

buckeyeEddie27's picture

Bert, skirt, derp, herp, slurp, burp, chirp.    It just sounds better.  And he is a tool.

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Crumb's picture

It works, I had always gone on the assumption that it was due to a resemblance to Bert from 'Bert and Ernie'.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

JakeBuckeye's picture

Pete Carroll: Never. If he had become Coach it would have been like watching Ben Affleck be Batman. That much of a train wreck.

You are insane. I honestly think Carroll would be 26-0 right now if he were Ohio State's head coach. He's better than the whole lot of 'em, including Saban and Meyer.

Crumb's picture

Not a chance. And don't forget how Carroll left USC, like a rat leaving a sinking ship except sunk ships were in better shape than SC when he left. He did the same garbage as Tress and didn't get a word spoken to him. Maybe he would be 26-0, but I wouldn't want that at the price of Ohio's soul.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

JakeBuckeye's picture

People said the same thing about Meyer before he was our coach. You are ignorant of the things Pete Carroll did for the community of Los Angeles. He's an amazing guy, much like Tressel, and a coach of the generation. Its insane that he built a dynasty at USC like he did AND THEN won a super bowl!

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Crumb's picture

He's the last person I would want coaching the Ohio State University Football.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

JakeBuckeye's picture

Again, people said similar things about Meyer during his days at Florida and after his resignation. Just look back at old threads here on 11W. This isn't your fault, but you probably don't know too much of what Pete Carroll did outside of football for the Southern Cal community. I've lived in Southern California my whole life up until now (I go to OSU now). I hated Pete Carroll during his days at USC because he won so much and owned us, but I've been able to respect the hell out of him. Don't forget, outside of the Ohio State community Tressel & Meyer are considered "win at all costs" guys. Don't let your bias get in the way of the truth.

Crumb's picture

The difference is Meyer is an Ohio guy and when he left Florida he didn't leave their program in shambles with restrictions up the tail pipe. The worst part is Carroll got away with it. Tressel can't work for another number of years and other coaches who lost control of their programs are still out of work, not Carroll he flies everyone the middle finger while he waltzes into the NFL for an even bigger pay day. Most coaches are pillars in their community when working at big school, and I give them props for that, I just don't like it when some people act like the rules don't apply and worse yet can get away with it. It's the seem reason I hate Auburn for getting a free pass with Cam Newton while SC got punished for Reggie Bush.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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Mortc15's picture

DJ, I have a question.

How many of the coaches that you listed would have actually consented to an interview had OSU come calling? They're all great coaches, but do you really think all of them would have given OSU a legitimate shot at stealing them from their schools?

Buck-I4Life

DJ Byrnes's picture

In my unprofessional and completely unbiased opinion, I think most coaches would at least hear Ohio State out. It's definitely a top five prestigious job in all of college football, and $$$$$ talks.

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bull1214's picture

after tressel proved u could win an nc here, I think the list of candidates would have been much larger than when tressel got hired. urban made the choice easy. not sure if dantonio would have been the top guy then but im guessing he would be now.

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hspbuy1's picture

Dantonio would  be my first choice to get an offer,then possibly one of the Stoops Brothers,Mike or Bob.  I like the way it worked out though.

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Sebastian's picture

Must be a slow news day...who cares we got Urban

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BroJim's picture

This article was useless, but I read the whole damn thing.

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JTownBuckeye's picture

Bert to OSU would be the quickest hire and fire in the history of OSU football. It would have been a disaster and there would have been immediate calls to Fire Bert! Fire Smith! Fire Gee! Heck, fire everybody involved in this disaster. I can't imagine any OSU fans embracing him as coach of The Ohio State University.

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BeijingBucks's picture

Bert would have been over Gee's dead body.  Didn't he call him a 'thug'?

 

 

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DefendOhio's picture

I remember there being rumors about Gruden and Ohio State. Not sure if/how that would have panned out? I think Dantanio would have been the only realistic choice on this list. Miles turned down his own school in Michigan, Carroll and Kelly are NFL guys, Saban wasn't leaving Bama either. 

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JakeBuckeye's picture

There are rumors of Gruden going somewhere every time an NFL or college team has a head coaching vacancy.

ScarletGray43157's picture

Gruden is an Ohio native (like most of the coaches on the llst) so it isn't farfetched.

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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Seattle Linga's picture

LOL Fastest hire Fastest fire - NICE

BERT ------------- NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I think realistically, the only one OSU could've gotten out of this list is Dantonio.  And if Urban was unavailable, I would definitely be happy with a Dantonio hire.  Dude has made MSU football more relevant than it's been in decades. 

Saban obviously would've mindfucked the CFB world by coming here.  You may have concerns about his recruiting without oversigning, but I sure as hell don't.  The other three guys are great coaches, too, but I don't know how well they'd fit.

With all that said, love Urbz and wouldn't change the hire for anything.

 

Class of 2010.

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Hovenaut's picture

Bielema in Columbus.

Good gravy. 

Karmbus, Ohio. 

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CptBuckeye24's picture

I think Gary Pinkel would have been a candidate.  What he does done at Mizzou is impressive.

Firedup's picture

Chris Peterson had to have been on that list.  It definitely would have satisfied his desire to go to somewhere capable for a national title. 

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Crumb's picture

Before it was clear Urban would come back to coaching Peterson was my top pick and I thought Pinkel was worth a look too.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

m5987usus's picture

Saban with the way he recruits could succeed anywhere

O-H!

FROMTHE18's picture

wonder who was the #2 option behind Urban if Meyer had decided to remain retired. Probs an attempt at Saban, but I think Kelly would have been it.

Kurt's picture

Surprised Charlie Strong hasn't come up yet.  Eddie George was hot on him to take over in fall 2011.

northwoods buckeye's picture

I was hoping for Dantonio during the fallout year since Urban was on sabbatical. The offense wouldn't be as dynamic, but at least we would be able to defend a f*&^ing screen pass.

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scrotieMcboogerballs's picture

Bert...LOL (I was one more sentence away from swearing off 11W forever...or at least for the day)

Man, would it be nice to have Dantoni back running our defense

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Art Harrell's picture

another great article 11W--Go Bucks---------always liked Pete Carroll

m4's picture

DJ  Byrnes,

Nick Saban did not stay in the big ten or the NFL long enough to prove himself as the great coach he is now so I do not see how anyone can say he was mediocre.. The Miami Dolphins did get more competitive and better doing his short stay there. As for Chip Kelly, he is innovative, and his offenses are exciting,however it has been proven if a defense  gets physical with his offense it struggles.

kareemabduljacobb's picture

I would've been done with tOSU football had Bert been hired.

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buckeyedude's picture

I agree. The thought of it makes me nauseous. I hope he doesn't hear about this. I don't want his fat head to get fatter.

 

 

bleedscarlet's picture

Not a big fan of the guy but I'm surprised no one mentioned Pelini. Ohio guy with Buckeye ties and 9 or 10 wins yearly at UN.

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M Man's picture

Man that is an evil list.  I think of it as all dark sarcasm, except for Dantonio.  And Dantonio would have taken the job in Columbus, I feel certain.

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buckeyedude's picture

I don't think Dantonio would leave E. Lansing for C-bus. I just don't see it.

 

 

DUMP the chUMps's picture

Agreed. He is driven by something different than most.

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thatlillefty's picture

I would have no problem with Captain Carroll as tOSU head footbawl coach. I've always loved that dude. Just watch some of the youtube videos of him playing pranks on his boys. And he had the most dominant team of the 00's. Call me crazy. But I would have called you the same if you had told me in '07 that someday, Urban would be coaching in Columbus.

BuckeyeRealist13's picture

i haven't read through the comments so please forgive me if this has already been stated. In all reality weren't Mark Dantonio and Bo Pelini the two favorites to replace Tress if not for Urban? Wasn't Bo Pelini actually the favorite? 

I've spent time in the South, I don't care what anybody says they don't have the passion for football that us Ohioans have. 

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All I have to say is "Thank God Urban Meyer was available and rested and ready to get back to college coaching."

Other than maybe Chip Kelly, I don't see any of those as realistic possibilities. You honestly think Les Miles, a Michigan alum, would come to Columbus if he wouldn't even consider going back to his alma mater? Nyet. And Dantonio wouldn't leave MSU even for OSU, IMHO. How often has a head coach in the B1G left for the HC at another B1G school? Nyet. Wouldn't have happened.

As much as it pains me to say it, if Meyer wasn't available, OSU would have to do just like TTUN did and recruit a HC at a MAC or some other lower conference school. Or, maybe a D-II school like Youngstown State? This list is just a bunch of pie in the sky for arrogant Buckeye fans. It's not realistic. It makes us sound like TTUN fans after Carr and RichRod left.