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I agree that Bennett is an idiot and should not be covering a conference that he obviously dislikes, BUT this is NOT an ESPN slam piece. He mentions this story comes from SI.com, and its actually a rather good article. He mentioned in passing the incident involvig the 40k and even said it was alleged and the few opinion he threw out weren't that far fetched. You need to stop acting like every time something even remotely negative comes out that there are ulterior motives...how easily we forget that lately ESPN has actually been very complimentary towards OSU.

CincyOSU: do you work for espn?

McLovin - You're probably right, I do get a little too worked up at times but it's only because I don't like the way it makes out fanbase in general look. To outsiders, it REALLY makes us look foolish. There is another thread about ESPN where Hodge put it very well in regards to the ESPN bias(I agree on the bias, just not that ESPN is "Out to get us".

Fido- No I don't, but I do have the ability to think rationally and without jumping to conclusions based on emotion. It must be really tough for all the ESPN conspiracy theorists during football season. Do you all stick by your guns and listen to the games on the radio????

S.I. did NOT come up with the $40,000 allegation against TP, espin DID. That allegation was proven wrong, yet they continue to drop it into THEIR piece. Not to mention the fact that they had a producer here for months begging many former players to give them anything to substantiate their claims. Make no mistake about it, they wanted to nail tOSU. Many former players have gone on the record confirming this. Reporting false rumors is dishonest and sketchy. No conspiracy theory needed when the facts are easily available.

Jake and CincyOSU: as usual, you both fall back on strawmen arguments, i.e. that those who disagree with you are irrational "conspiracy theorists" who believe that Ohio State is "perfect." I guess if I made arguments that are as weak as you two make on a regular basis, I'd prefer to argue with strawmen, too. But if you want to take on my actual positions, let me know.

John - Do a google search and look at the dozens of stories on ESPN you will see about the USC scandal. That thing happened 3-4 years ago....of course its going to seem like no coverage given to it, esp since the OSU is more recent(and admittedly did get more coverage, but not just from ESPN). The same thing with Auburn, do a google search and you will see DOZENS of articles from ESPN. Miami got non stop play for about 2 weeks, but when nothing new came out the coverage died down. With OSU something new seemed to come out every other month(which was uncovered by others, only poorly reported by ESPN) so the coverage seemed non stop. Wait until we get closer to the NCAA releasing its findings...Miami will be all over the news again. And UNC...noone cares about UNC so its not a story.

As I stated before, Hodge put it best on another thread. Is there a protective bias towards SEC schools? Sure. But you are off your rocker if you think  ESPN wants to "take down" OSU. Espn makes money off OSU(not as much as the SEC) so what benefit is there to taking us down?

@ Cincyosu- If you ever listened to 97.1 The Fan, you would know that they chronicled, and interviewed MANY former players for this info! If you are that set on sticking up for your beloved espin, i will get the transcripts for you! I don't have a problem with that at all. It's funny that i have to prove this to an alleged fan of tOSU. This was all covered on this site in the past. That must have been basketball season when you cheer for UC. 

Again, SI did not, let me repeat, did not, make the $40,000 allegation. 

Hmmmm which group of these fans were more likely to make the negative comments on the Dr's business?  The ESPN guys or the ESPiN guys?  I'm guessing it's the fans that boo their own team.  Let's just move this from slightly annoying to full out Out of Hounds!

Hmmmm which group of these fans were more likely to make the negative comments on the Dr's business?  The ESPN guys or the ESPiN guys?  I'm guessing it's the fans that boo their own team.  Let's just move this from slightly annoying to full out Out of Hounds!

Please explain this comment further. I didn't quite get it, but the way I read it was a shot at me and Cincy. For the record, I've never booed our team and I called out the immature imbeciles who made fun of and criticized Alex A. and his dad.

Jake - how do you get those blocks around your quotes? 

CincyOSU: okay, I give up! Making the claim that espn has a negative bias does NOT imply [espn] "having it out for Ohio State." That I would have to explain why that's the case tells me I'm never going to get anywhere constructive with you.

Jake: it's all good. Sorry I was testy about it. I can be a bit sensitive when I feel someone is misconstruing my position. Call me a pompous s.o.b. and other names and it'll roll right off me, but imply that I'm arguing something I'm not arguing and I turn into a b----. If we're laying our cards on the table, I do wonder sometimes if you see your role as sort of policing homerism and perhaps come across at times as a scold in the process, but you seem like a good guy and do very often make sound, good arguments. Peace. 

It was more a shot of the ridiculousness of our fandom. I'm just instigating and pulling for an all Out of Hounds type response.  I B Trollin'.....

I've been so upset with our shitty fanbase that I'm almost embarrassed to admit my love for the Buckeyes.  This is the first year I'm not actually buying season tickets (still Buckeye Club) because of how shitty the Buckeye fans can be.  This whole argument here is just sad.  Yes ESPN promotes negative media on OSU.  Why?  Because idiots keep clicking the links and sharing it.  Ugh.

I think the last straw for me was in New Orleans (vs LSU) when our fans behaved so poorly prior to the game.  The shit talking and utter arrogance was almost surreal. I've been pretending ever sense.  We have horrible fans.

So, that's why my comment was so utterly negative.  (waiting for Denny's cow joke)

Jake: it's all good. Sorry I was testy about it. I can be a bit sensitive when I feel someone is misconstruing my position. Call me a pompous s.o.b. and other names and it'll roll right off me, but imply that I'm arguing something I'm not arguing and I turn into a b----. If we're laying our cards on the table, I do wonder sometimes if you see your role as sort of policing homerism and perhaps come across at times as a scold in the process, but you seem like a good guy and do very often make sound, good arguments. Peace.

Hah, I wouldn't say that, but I do disagree often and I'm sure it gets annoying to everyone. I disagree too much and always tend to post about it, but when I see something I do agree with I don't post about it as much as I do with the things I disagree about. I think that's my problem.

@buckeyechad--no doubt man,  seems like everyone is itching to slug it out on here lately. 

Its one thing to discuss and dissagree or even agree about topics on here but when insults are made and and subsequent retaliation insults are made back then combined with never ending "no this is what i said" & "he said/he said" bullshit comments back and forth it gets pretty tiring.

Even this comment i'm making right now will no doubt attract some type of anger, but i dont care.  it needs to be said.  

There are lots of subjects i would like to participate in but dont, simply because it seems like if one person has issue with what you say, the focus then shifts to defending yourself to no end rather than disscusing the original topic in a civil manner.     IMHO. 

/rant over....fire away. 

I agree, you are beating a dead horse. IMO this bias that ESPN has for OSU is crazy and a product of paranoid OSU fans who think that OSU is above everyone else. How dare ESPN be critical against our mighty Buckeyes. Lets get realistic Buckeye nation.

FYI the "Strawmen" that Fido is referring to is a debate technique.

A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

Not trying to be that guy. Carry on.

ESPN may not be actively trying to take down OSU, as they make money off of us.  They also make money off of all of the bad shit they post about us.  It's not necessarily an attempt to nail us.  They know that our fanbase is perhaps the biggest in the nation.  They know that our program is one of the most hated programs in the nation, and not just by another one of the biggest fanbases in the nation in the U of M.  So of course they'll report the hell out of anything scandalous that happens to us.  Our fans will watch, of course, and the other fans who hate us or are just interested because of who we are will tune in to see what's going on as well.  That's why ESPN reports the way that it does.  It drives me crazy sometimes, but that's business.  What drives me crazy most is the reporting of stuff that is unsubstantiated.  ESPN has been guilty of bad journalism before.  But in some strange way, the reporting of our stuff compared to scandals of other programs is actually a testament to how big we are...

There may not have been anything found with the car situation. but there was also nothing found with Cam Newton at Auburn....