Eleven Warriors

Hoping that if Brown is one of them it is not the Philly version.

It may have to do with the 247 article that said the meeting that caused the Twitter havoc also had to do with marijuana use on the team. 2 strike limit. Just throwing it out there :)

My first post as an 11w user!

Jordan Whiting also tweeted something..odd this morning. He said he "hadn't quit" and that everyone need to "cut the bullshit". That tweet is since gone and replaced "Quick break, Thank You Jesus 4 2day! I believe theres a reason things r goin on n my life for a reason n im fully open 2 the lessons!!!". I bet he's one of them.

Interesting.  Hopefully, we'll get some sort of confirmation soon.  I hate to speculate too much.

So Berry, Carter, Brown, maybe Whiting. Sounds like Urban wants to clean out anything bringing OSU's image down. That's my guess.

I think T.Y. will be okay, but I DM'd some of the guys at the Ozone who had no knowledge of Whiting but said Carter and Brown have not quit the team.

Dominic Clarke got arrested per Marcus Hartman. OVI over by my dorm -_-

I hope Urban plays the mean guy and kicks him off the team.

I dont want to sound too negative or anything. But some of the names mentioned were guys that were/are not cutting it on the football field. I believe this may be a way for Urban to, wait for it...Oversign!

Urban and Fickell are entirely anti-oversigning, so it's not going to happen.

He did not oversign at Fla, look at his classes. Surprisingly he's just an insane recruiter and values recruits as human beings, not commodities.

making the oversigning comment was purely a joke. especially considering that we complain about the other schools that do it religiously.

Once again, can't drop names, but if anyone is dismissed from the team it won't be because of lack of talent....the cases we know about are strictly disciplinary things

Not only did he not oversign, but from what I've read & seen - IMO - it may have been something that turned him off at his former job. When he talks about the stress of "trying to fix things with the NCAA" an educated guess might lead you to believe oversigning was something about the SEC that he probably didn't love. All indications are that he cares about his players beyond just winning. Oversigning is practiced by those who only care about a gaining a competitive edge.

The only time Florida "tried" to oversign was pretty recently under Meyer.

As noted here: http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/highschoolbuzz/2010/11/05/jacoby-brissett-no-thanks-to-florida-gators-greyshirt-offer/

If you want a good read on what Florida thinks of oversigning: http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/02/florida_president.html

They ended up signing Driskel and Brissett to scholarships anyway. They signed large classes, but didn't oversign > 85, but now the SEC has rules where you can't sign more than 25 players to a class regardless of who is leaving. Alabama currently has 26 verbals...-_-

Yup: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6623466

Also looking at the other 4 proposals, it looks like they are cleaning up a lot of the issues that people from other conferences always complain about. 

• Eliminating the graduate-student exemption to the rule the league has had in place for years whereby a student-athlete must have two years of eligibility remaining to transfer to an SEC school. The previous rule allowed former Oregon quarterback Jeremiah Masoli to attend Mississippi last season

This is one that I think is crazy teams can utilize, imagine where Wisconsin would've been if not for this rule this season.

Here are the other 3 for those who didn't read the entire article or don't click on ESPN links:

• An SEC school cannot sign a prospect to an SEC financial-aid agreement until that prospect is enrolled in school and a full-time student attending classes. "It's a way of dealing with early enrollees," Slive said. "It would not permit other institutions to talk to you. We want to know that our prospects are coming to our institutions."

• The conference will oversee the administration of medical hardship exemptions. The league will review each case and decide the outcome.

• Prospects attending summer school will count against the 25 scholarship total that year.

Once all these rules are implemented and we get passed a few recruiting classes, I wonder what people will be up in arms about when the SEC teams are still good.  

Here's my issue Irricoir, oversigning in the SEC has been going on since when?  The 60's?  It's not new, but it's only become an issue in the last 2 or 3 years.  I never once heard anything about oversigning when Ohio State and Michigan were 1 and 2 and all was well in the B1G.  I never heard about it in the mid 90's when B1G teams were pretty successful on a regular basis.  So how come, if this practice has been going on for so long down there, it's only worked for the last 6 years and only been talked about for the last 2 or 3?  Was it less outrageous then or was it because it didn't matter, the B1G was competent.  In my opinion, oversigning has only become an issue because the B1G is in the crapper and the SEC just keeps winning.

Everyone can talk about how wrong it is, how horrible of a practice it is etc, and to an extent you are right, but it's only a competitive advantage because the SEC is winning right now.  I don't see how it was less of an advantage 10 years ago than it is today.  Rivals has been around for quite some time now and everyone has been able to see the recruiting numbers for years now.  I've never heard until recently, any kind of outrage about schools signing huge classes. I'm not knocking people for taking a moral stand against the SEC's practice either, I just have a feeling the same people screaming about it today had no comment about it 10 or 15 years ago.  If they did, these new reforms the SEC passed would've happened years ago.

BT it has always been wrong but the internet has given a lot of attention to things that were previously overlooked. I didn't know anything about Oversigning until about 2-3 years ago. It just wasn't a hot topic. It took victims of oversigning coming forward and someone that was dedicated to stopping the practice to organize a site that drew attention to this problem. You say it was never a problem until now. Really? Why did the Big10 change it's rules if they believed it wasn't a problem? Why did Georgia Tech leave the SEC if they didn't see that as a competitive advantage and they refused to participate in the practice? Why has everyone (Except Spurrier whom admits it is a competitive advantage) in the SEC east made complaints and urged reform because it isn't a problem? Simply look at who oversigns in the SEC (And other regions) and tell me who has the power in that conference? It has always been a problem BT but has never been raised to the surface and given it's due publicity before now. Information sharing has increased exponentially since the rise of the internet and other social media devices.

I am not a fan that thinks that Oversigning is the sole reason for a teams success. It takes more than that to be the best but it takes people to win championships. My point remains, if I have a larger pool to choose from then the chances are greater that I will find the athlete I am looking for. Not everyone is lucky enough to land a Braxton Miller who might be the best quarterback in the 2010 class when its all said and done. He wanted to come to Ohio State. Therefore, we didn't need a large pool to find the right fit.

I should add, while knocking Minnesota, they did make a good hire last year, maybe there is hope for them yet!

I don't totally disregard the advantage that oversigning could pose, just don't think it's as dramatic as everyone has been making it sound lately, I think most of that is just because their teams are winning.  I'm not concerned about what they are doing that is unfair nearly as much as I'm concerned about the B1G and it's fans not taking a look at their own situation and say, what can we do to improve?  So you get rid of oversigning?  Big deal it won't make Purdue play better football because Ole Miss can sign 30 players per year.

That's why I don't care about oversigning. It doesn't impact Ohio State.  We lost one player to Bama, DePriest.  He wanted to go there instead of staying home and playing with his childhood buddy and high school teammate.  That's the only player I can think of that has gone to a program that routinely oversigns. 

I also get tired of the we are at a disadvantage talk, when Ohio State often leaves 2 or 3 scholarships unfilled.  Arguing about disadvantage when you don't even utilize the full 85 scholarships you have just doesn't make sense, or leaving a few schollies behind to give token scholarships to guys like Archie's kid.

Re: Gambrell, the recent interest in recruiting DBs seems to indicate that the player/s in trouble are in fact in the secondary

can we get off the over signing thing? until the NCAA makes a rule that all conferences must follow, each team is going to follow whatever rules have been in place by the conference, simple as that.  SEC isnt cheating, and Big ten teams arent playing by the rules (in terms of NCAA rules) SEC teams do what is allowed per conference rules, and Big Ten teams do what is allowed per conference rules. I feel like im taking crazy pills when i read some of the things people say sometimes.

Alex, are you referring to Cash?

Theres rumors Jeremy Cash might be transfering Xtreme

Not good news but thanks for the info BJ & Jeremy

 Jeremy Cash intends to transfer out of Ohio State. It has been confirmed by a university official tonight (Friday night). Now Cash will be looking for a new home. It is unknown where he will end up, but several schools will be looking to pull in the defensive back. If he transfers to another Division I (FBS) school, he will have to sit out a year per transfer rules unless he is able to get a NCAA waiver approved. Upon committing to Ohio State, Cash admitted that there were certain things that drew him to the program. But a lot has happened since then. As of right now, the reasons for a transfer are unknown. Arizona State might be in the mix to get Cash. He did visit their campus before committing to OSU last year.

He was a huge get last year and seemed all buckeye.

I saw the program regarding oversigning on ESPN's Inside the Lines a while back, and they previewed a QB recruit, can't remember his name, that was offered a schollie to play for Miles at LSU. He enrolled, started practicing with the team in the summer, then after school had already started, received a letter(!) in the mail telling him his schollie had been revoked and he was on his own. He missed a chance to go to another program because Miles reneged on his promise of a scholarship. He didn't even have the balls to tell him to is face.

If that happened to my kid, I'd find a way to sue those effers in Baton Rouge.

I agree with comments above by some, that fans in the SEC demand more because they are more passionate about college football than fans up north. I've heard some SEC fans say "CFB is our religion." Just my opinion, but it looks like to me the B1G has become more of a basketball strong conference, than football.