Columbus Police: Reporting on Hyde Situation has been 'Reckless up to this point'

By Jason Priestas on July 26, 2013 at 2:46p
206 Comments
Columbus Police: Much of the Carlos Hyde Reporting is Wrong

Surprise! Nearly everything you've been told about the Carlos Hyde situation is wrong, according to Columbus Police.

Sgt. Rich Weiner, the public information officer for the Columbus Police Department, told 610 WTVN that the reporting has "been reckless up to this point," going on to say, "Everybody seems to have a source and they're going with it. They think that whatever their source is telling them is gospel."

"There's more information that's not true than is true from the reports," Weiner said.

Weiner is referring to conflicting reports from Yahoo! Sportrs and Columbus's NBC4. A report from Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports stated Hyde did not strike the alleged victim and that surveillance video from the club would exonerate Hyde. NBC4's Mindy Drayer reported that she had seen the video and that Hyde did, in fact, strike the alleged victim. Notwithstanding her weird diagram, the report contradicted what the typically reliable Robinson had reported a day earlier, and indeed information we received from a source at Big Ten Media Days in Chicago on Wednesday.

The spokesman also disputed reports of the victim getting knocked out.

We spoke with a CPD source very close to the situation today and were told that Hyde appears to have slapped her "pretty good" but the victim did not tell officers that she hit or tried to hit Hyde first. The victim is currently out of town and has not spoken to police. There's also the problem of the video not matching the statement she gave to the officers taking the report, which omitted details of her attempting to strike Hyde.

Our source said that if she does not talk to police, the case will likely be dropped, adding, "These things happen so often with normal people that we typically don't charge anyone if the victim does not cooperate."

If the victim does speak to police, both she and Hyde could be looking at misdemeanor assault charges. Assault charges can be filed for cause or attempt to cause physical harm to another.

More as this develops.

206 Comments

Comments

BKLYN_Buckeye's picture

I'm so sick of this story. I can't wait til it ends.

Remy's picture

"I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later." ~ Mitch Hedberg

gerry30's picture

What the hell is taking so long? This ain't Watergate. (Okay...no politics. I took out Benghazi and changed it to Watergate.) 
Was there a hospital emergency admission or not? Usually public record.
The Columbus PD and prosecutor's office must have such a total bead on this by now. Face it. It's either chicken poop  (or less),  or something serious.  A lack of a "statement" by Carlos's spokesman, and Urban's quick trigger combo,  bothers me a LOT. 
My reliable sources tell me he was just "Doing the Frug" on the dance floor (in honor of my graduating class),  and he back-handed her by accident.
Then she pulled  a 45 and two pit bulls from her fanny pack, and he split. He "gestured back at her" only to throw livva-snaps to her dogs, but she scarfed them first. Not denigrating Carlos. Always seemed a class act to me. And please recall your July days, summers of your teens and "earlies."
These guys are stupid but saints compared  to most of us at that age. Really...think of all the stuff you pulled!  Women: root of all Knieval.
 

gp7448

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

Now THAT is shocking! Reporters blowing things out of proportion, spewing lies and twists about a celebrity in order to attract readers/viewers? Never heard of such a thing!
These days I feel like a kid on a long road trip asking dad (in this case UFM, of course) if we're there yet.. 34 days until sanity, 36 until joy!

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

Kyle Rowland's picture

If charged it will likely be a first-degee misdemeanor, which is a serious charge. Just one step below a felony. Maximum sentence is six months in jail and $1,000 fine. Obviously, maximums are rarely handed down. But it's definitely a misconception that just because it's labeled as a misdemeanor it's not a serious crime.

Team punishment boils down to the video. Urban has a zero tolerance policy when it comes to violence against women. If Hyde hit her, his chances of staying are not good. If he didn't, then he's probably fine. Video will go a long way in clearing everything up.

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

I just wonder how far UFM takes the "disrespect women" thing. If it turns out he did push her face away after she swung at him or whatever, does he still get booted? I just want some concrete answers, the uncertainty is the worst part of this whole thing.

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

GH_Lindsey's picture

Maybe I'm being a bit too much of a homer here, but it seems to me that pushing away someone who just punched you (even if they are a woman) is a very reasonable self defense measure. Of course, it would depend on how violent the push is, but does something like that really constitute disrespect for women?

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

That's what I'm wondering. But if the quotes above are what you go off of, him slapping her pretty good would definitely count, IMO.

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

bostonbuckeye's picture

In my opinion, no.  I understand respecting women.  However, isn't respecting women about treating them as equals? Don't get me wrong punching/hitting anyone is wrong but I have no problem with a guy hitting a woman back (if it was right after in self defense, not 10-15 seconds later) if she's hitting the guy.   It's self defense.  Hit in a certain spot and any women can do serious damage to a man of any size.
This question was brought up on reddit a few weeks ago and from what I gathered the general consensus is that the whole notion that men can't hit women leads to women believing they are invincible and can hit a man however hard and often they want.  This was coming from mostly women users.  Please don't mistake this as me saying violence against women is ok...violence against anyone is wrong.  However, self defense is encouraged, when appropriate, against anyone as well.

skid21's picture

I think this argument has to take into account the level of harm. If a woman punches a man and he he punches her in return then, in most cases, she has may left a bruise and he seriously hurt her. That is the difference. This case is a slippery slope. If you get slapped by a woman and you slap her back is that wrong? Considering the difference in physical strength the best rule is you should never hit a woman. That is what most fathers teach their sons and for a good reason. Would you teach your son any different? If Hyde hit this woman Urban will kick him off the team. Lots of people may disagree but Urban has good reason for doing so whether you like it or not.

bostonbuckeye's picture

Yeah, I agree.  That's what I was trying to get across.  A woman can do harm to a man.  Human bodies are fragile.  However, it takes more for a woman to do damage.  So it is usually a case by case situation.  IF reports are true that he hit her 10-15 seconds after she hit him then he should be dismissed, he should have walked away at that point.  However, that's IF those reports are true.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

However, it takes more for a woman to do damage.

That shouldn't matter at all. Her goal was to do some type of damage. She gets no sympathy from me just because she's a woman.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

skid21's picture

Seriously? So if a child hits an adult the adult should just hit the child in retaliation? I realize there are differences in maturity but if you are just talking about physical threats then there is no difference. I'm not going to hit a woman half my size because she slapped me. I'd make sure he didn't slap me again but it wouldn't involve hitting her.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

That kind of mentality is the reason so many women think they can do anything to a man without any repercussions. We expect men to turn and walk away, but we don't expect that same thing from a female. That is ridiculous. Like I said in another thread: 

I'm not going to wait for my life to be in danger before I retaliate. I hate when women assault a man, then hide behind their gender when there might be consequences.

You can't punch me then claim diplomatic immunity like it's Lethal Weapon 2.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

skid21's picture

Again, seriously? You seem to imply every hit is life threatening when in truth you're talking about hitting back out of anger in 9 out of 10 situations. And no, it isn't ridiculous. There are some things about being a man which require taking the high road. Sorry if your feelings get hurt when a woman slaps you. Be a man and walk away.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Sorry, but that's just wrong. You shouldn't to have your life threatened in order to defend yourself. Do you even realize how that sounds? If you think defending yourself isn't "being a man", you can go ahead and sit there and take your beating.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

skid21's picture

So was Hyde taking a beating? Your argument doesn't fit this situation.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I was talking in general. In this situation he allegedly responded with a smack. Seems about right.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Nutty's picture

Sounds like you might be sensitive. Must get slapped a lot.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Baseless assumptions are awesome.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

bostonbuckeye's picture

I know it shouldn't matter.  To me it doesn't.  However, if there isn't video evidence of a situation or witnesses, it will mater. A man can leave a physical mark on a woman a lot easier than the other way around.  Unless she punches him in the face, which can easily leave a mark, she most likely won't leave a mark behind to prove she hit him.  Even then, public perception is that she most likely hit him because he started it.  That's the world we live in because we're told to NEVER hit a woman.  Which is bullshit if one's attacking me, I won't hesitate to stop the situation and if that means hitting back, then so be it.  It's much easier for guys to get the book slammed at them if no one's around to witness the event.  It's a no win situation for Hyde because he's in the public eye.  Like the cops have stated, if it wasn't for this being Hyde, this wouldn't garner any attention.  It happens all the time.  Hell, I've been with girls at bars who nearly got in fights with other girls/guys.  Legally, I wouldn't be surprised if nothing comes of this.  It's gonna come down to what Urban sees when he sees the tape.
 
Edit: I agree with Buckeyevstheworld.  A woman has no more right to hit a man than a man does to hit a woman.  If she hits him with the intention of hurting him, whether it did or not, she should be charged. Period.  Women can't hide behind their gender because men grew up being taught that it's NEVER ok to hit a woman.  Leading to them growing up believing that they can hit a man and he can't hit back. 

Toilrt Paper's picture

I assume this girl is lawyered up. The Police say this girl does not have to talk to them about the incident if she doesn't want to. One of her parents is a Police Officer. NO WAY this girl wants to talk to the Police.
She is 19, she was drinking underage. She had to use a fake ID to get into the Club. She LIED on the Police Report when she said she was elbowed in the face. She LIED on the Police Report when she said her nose was bloodied. She LIED on the Police Report when she said she was knocked down/out. She LIED on the Police Report when she said her ankle was sprained. She said on the Police Report that she did not know the name of this person. She said on the Police Report that she could not give a description of this person. She did not mention on the Police Report that she swung at this person first. She sounds like she was VERY drunk that night. 
About this tape. There is NO WAY the police would have allowed this tape(evidence?) to be viewed by a reporter from NEWS4. Thus the tape was shown to the reporter by the Club. Why does the Club still have the tape(evidence?)? The only logical explanation why the Police did not confiscate the tape(evidence?) is they did not see anything on the tape that would prove anything one way or the other beyond a reasonable doubt. Therefore, after the fact, if a case went forward, the tape would never be allowed to be entered into evidence, since it could have been tampered with when it was not in the possession of the Police. Her parent being a Police Officer and the girl's lawyer would know all of this.
The police say if the girl does not want to talk to them, they consider the case closed.

Urban Nation Army's picture

You know a lot more about the police report than the rest of us, where did you get this info?

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

faux_maestro's picture

From an incident report that surfaced that ended up not being related to this case.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

rekrul's picture

Sugar Bar 2 is 18 and over, unless she was seen getting drinks at the bar by herself, then fake id is possible.  If one of her friends got the drinks for her then they can be liable for that offense.

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

gerry30's picture

Son, them'r words of wisdom.i

gp7448

DLB1276's picture

Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Sgt. DICK WEINER...yeah, I'm immature.

Unky Buck's picture

Assuming the name isn't passed down through generations (why would it?), his parents must not have been happy to have him or thought that the name was going to be hilarious.

...

AndyVance's picture

I was suddenly having flashbacks to this thread...

DLB1276's picture

Dangit, I should have gone with "thanks for keeping us straight"...missed opportunities.

TWCBUCKEYE's picture

Drink of water + This comment = Ten minutes of uncontrollable cough weezing laughter.

"Nothing cleanses your soul like getting the [Mark May] kicked out of you."

Poison nuts's picture

Holy wow!!! His name is Richard Weiner!...now that DLB pointed this out, I'm not sure I can even concentrate on..what is this story about? 

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

harleymanjax's picture

Growing up there was a State Farm agent in Cincy named DICK BURNS
You would think he would have gone by Richard, but nope, he had billboards up everywhere advertising the DICK BURNS agency!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

A very long time ago I was a collector at Bank One - one of my accounts name:  Richard Flexer!!!  Absolutely loved calling him up!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Tdizzle's picture

I agree I would love to see him back but this is just like tat-gate the media will not let it die.. I'm ready for football to start..

cjmgobucks's picture

The fact that the sgt. indicated that if charges were filed, it would be a misdemeanor indicates to me that a crime did, in fact, occur.  Now, the only question is, by whom!?!?!  The plot thickens...

"When I look in the mirror, I want to take a swing at me."

Wayne Woodrow Hayes

Unky Buck's picture

Eh, I didn't take it that way. I took it merely as very little actually happened and if anything happens, a misdemeanor would be a worst case scenario.

...

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

I agree. Sounded like a "worst case scenario" type thing. 
EDIT: Never mind, he never actually said if. Still don't think it is necessarily a given.

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

Toilrt Paper's picture

NO, the Sgt. said if the girl does not want to talk to the Police, the case would "likely be dropped".

toad1204's picture

I give up.

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

What I would give to be able to do that at work everyday for the past week!

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

Boomcat's picture

I think this pretty well sums up everyone's thoughts!

House804's picture


 
Ugh.

We talkin' bout practice?!  Not the game I love...the game I die for.  Practice?!

pjtobin's picture

Wasn't this from Look Who's Talking Now? If so it is very appropriate. It seems everyone is talking. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

Kaceybrown's picture

Certainly a less expensive tantrum than the one posted above.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

There was contact made between El Guapo and the woman - the big question is what type of contact!  Obviously this is why it is taking so long for them to decide whether to drop it or charge him with something and based on what they can prove.
Not having my criminal law degree - do they have a misdemeanor assault charge?

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Urban Nation Army's picture

It could be a charge against the woman, "if" Hyde decides to pursue that

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Very true!!! 

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Unky Buck's picture

That doesn't really appear to be the reason. The reason is they have yet to interview her since she's on vacation. Having reviewed all available information and seeing major omissions from her in the original report, they need to interview her and get the truth from her. They're going to wait and see if she cooperates or not before they move forward with anything.

...

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Got it!  Doesn't look good for Carlos though since it is now know that he 'slapped her pretty good'... I'm guessing that is a 'pack your bags' type of offense in Urban's book.

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Unky Buck's picture

The problem is that "slapped her pretty good" is a subjective phrase. We need to understand that we keep hearing this stuff from sources (it ranges from he didn't touch her to he just pushed her away to he "slapped her pretty good") and the best thing we can do is just not take it as gospel, as the Sgt. alluded to.
Obviously given that it's a source from the CPD, it seems viable, but, again, it's still subjective and we need to see what actual ends up happening before saying he's off the team or not. If the charges are dropped, does Urban still kick him off of the team? There's a lot of things we need to wait for still and given how much misreporting there has been over the last week, I think we all need to just let it play out instead of inundating ourselves with more speculation and possibilities. I don't know about everyone, but I sure as hell know I'm all sorts of done with this story and don't want to spend any more time trying to figure out possible scenarios.

...

AtlGABuckeye's picture

HMMM...she must be on vacation with manti teo's girlfriend...

"Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

Hoody Wayes's picture

Maybe ESPN will contact you for naming rights, ARIZONA_BUCKEYE:

Toilrt Paper's picture

The police obviously didn't think there was any conclusive evidence on the tape or they would have confiscated it for evidence. They didn't confiscate it, because if they had it they would never have showed (evidence) to the NEWS4 reporter. 

Kaceybrown's picture

I believe it is taking so long because the alleged victim is on vacation and has not been able to talk to police. I could be wrong though

kmp10's picture

Interesting developments IMO. The bottom line for me is this; there are many privileges one is afforded when one plays football for Ohio State. The list is long and varied. Everything from a free education to a free roof over your head... and much else in between. In exchange for all the perks, adulation and notoriety is a small list of things that MOST college kids partake in that the Ohio State football player probably should not. Is that fair? No. But to whom much is given much is expected. If being a member in good standing of this team means you have to stay out of the bars on High Street, well, then that's what it means I guess. Small price to pay for what you're getting in return. Like Jim Tressel said: nothing good happens after ten o'clock at night... words to live by if you're Carlos Hyde and have so very much on the line.

Boomcat's picture

I'm tired of this crap. Reporters need to quit getting their panties in a wad over page views and money, and let this sort itself out on its own and then report on the actual facts.....unfortunately that is too hard.

RedStorm45's picture

Hey CPD, just do your job and stop dragging this out.

niblick's picture

kinda hard to do when the girl is out of town

faux_maestro's picture

They are doing their job. The case can't be resolved until they talk to both parties involved and the girl is on vacation.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

Toilrt Paper's picture

AND, the Police say the girl does not have to talk to them if she doesn't want to.

AeroBuckeye2001's picture

I have never, in my life, heard of an investigation being delayed because one of the parties is chilling on vacation. Maybe this is an indication of how serious CPD really thinks these charges are.

The Ohio State University Class of 2001
BS Aero & Astronautical Engineering

faux_maestro's picture

Or, the police can't wrap up the case until they get her statement and she can't give a statement because she's out of town.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

Jason Priestas's picture

Updated with comments from a CPD source.

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

At least it clears up the "did he or didn't he?" Hopefully the victim just stays gone/quiet and they drop it

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

jeremytwoface's picture

Let's not be selfish and make this just about football.
 
If Hyde really did slap her "pretty good", she needs to come forward and he needs to be punished for it.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

You're right, that was very ignorant of me. I got caught up in just wanting it to be done with and stop dragging on I didn't even think of that. If he did something as unwarranted as slapping her "pretty good," then I do hope that he is punished; as you said, it is beyond just football.

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

Toilrt Paper's picture

If she comes forward, she will be charge with underage drinking, using a fake ID, lying numerous times on the police report. Her parent is a cop, she has a lawyer. What would they tell her to do?  

Bucks's picture

Toilrt, it was stated elsewhere in this thread but you seem to be skipping it or not reading them. Sugar Bar is 18+.

hit_the_couch's picture

It's not so much selfish when she's the aggressor. It's hard to say since none of us have seen the tape. The whole thing just needs to be dropped. The entire thing just stinks, so many conflicting things and way too many takes and angles.
I'm beginning to think no straight story exists.
 
It's generally 18 + every Fri. She coulda been drinking though; it happens a lot.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

TWCBUCKEYE's picture

Wait wait wait, so your telling me reporters blow things out of proportion? Bologna.

"Nothing cleanses your soul like getting the [Mark May] kicked out of you."

Boomcat's picture

I'm hoping that the officer doesn't know what a "mush" is. Fingers crossed.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Oh for shit's sake.  This has been dragging on all week.  As far as charges go, it's coming down to SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT. 

Class of 2010.

Olemissbuckeye's picture

They could get him on assault if they can show Carlos either 1. knowingly caused or attempted to cause physical harm to the girl or 2. if he recklessly caused serious harm to her.

Toilrt Paper's picture

Not if she doesn't talk to the Police. Can't use the tape now since they didn't think it was worth confiscating for evidence and it could have been tampered with since then.

buck-I.8's picture

Roby gets 2 games, Hyde gets 4, we win them all anyway, Urban gets criticized, life goes on.

osu07asu10's picture

Honestly, I think any othere year it would be 1 game and 2 games (respectively). In this situation, if there is video evidence of him hitting her...

Given the shit storm that has rained down on Urban lately...he may give Hyde the boot. I hope he doesn't, but he may...

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

jeremytwoface's picture

I agree.
If Hyde really did slap her "pretty good", I bet he's gone.
 
Especially given Meyer's zero tolerance policy on abusing women.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Toilrt Paper's picture

The video was not considered good enough to use as evidence or the Police would have confiscated it.

Jabba the Hoke's picture

I'd be fine with it if he got the boot, it sends a message to players on the future that this kind of stuff won't be tolerated. I thought Storm Klein should've got the boot last season.

buck-I.8's picture

Storm should've gotten the boot for (in the eyes of the law) basically nothing? So you'd be fine if Roby, Baugh, and Mewhort lose their spots too?

Jabba the Hoke's picture

It seemed pretty clear (to me anyways) that Klein did hit her, just because she didn't press charges doesn't mean he didn't do it. Hyde's situation is a little different, as it still seems up in the air as to if he did anything. If he did hit her and it was caught on tape, I would not fault Meyer for letting him go, whether she presses charges or not. When you are a football player at a top notch profane you are held to a higher standard.

Jabba the Hoke's picture

Even if charges weren't filed, Storm still hit a female (it seems that way to me anyway). Roby, Naught and Mewhort all have different situations, not involving violence against women.

Crimson's picture

The official story is that Storm "removed" her, so unless you have a video saying otherwise, you should be cautious about claims that Storm hit a female.  Urban would have booted him for the season if he thought the same.

RBuck's picture

Sounds to me that the end result will depend on how Urban interprets the video. I'm thinking that Hyde get's a substantial suspension at this moment.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Toilrt Paper's picture

If I was Urban I would not rely on the tape, since the Police didn't think it worth of being evidence. 

Buckeye1996's picture

I doubt charges will be filed either way since the "victim" basically lied and is not eager to cooperate.
Hyde is gone unfortunately for violating a team rule. CPD source said Hyde slapped her pretty good. This sucks.

Idaho Helga's picture

My thoughts exactly, if the "victim's story" didn't match the video this is going nowhere with the cops.  Also, I don't care if she is on Gilligan's Island for vacation, by now she knows the shit storm this has all become by now.  Will be interesting to see what she tells the cops next week.  Maybe, like, the truth?
Carlos does miss some time if he slapped her no matter what the CPD does.

Toilrt Paper's picture

She can't afford to talk to the police, she would be in bigger trouble than Hyde.

Idaho Helga's picture

Rethinking this, (UGH) if he hit her, he's gotta go.  See other posts here as to why but in addition:
 
Urban: "I'm human, so yeah, it bothers me"
 
The reins are going to tighten. 

Kyle Rowland's picture

The length of the investigation is not out of the norm. It happened less than a week ago. The fact that neither Carlos nor the victim have talked to police could be because they declined. Not the police's fault. 

BraveandBold's picture

Most assaults are not on video. He either hit or or he didn't

aboynamedtracy's picture

If he didn't hit, you must acquit.
/Cochran'd

97Buckeye's picture

In my opinion - which is worth exactly nothing - if the video actually shows Carlos slap the woman, whether there are charges filed or not, Coach Meyer will have to remove him from the team. He's said there is a zero tolerance policy of violence against women. Carlos wasn't fearing for his life from this woman. ASSUMING THE VIDEO ACTUALLY SHOWS A SLAP... the coach's rules and the pressure to make the move, will leave him no choice but to kick him off the team. I wish he had just walked away :(

AndyVance's picture

I fear that you are correct, though (not to get into semantics), I'm wondering how far Coach Meyer intended his zero tolerance policy to go.
According to Webster, violence is: exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse; injury by or as if by distortion, infringement, or profanation; intense, turbulent, or furious and often destructive action or force.
Does a slap across the face, a common enough response to physical aggression or heated discussion, constitute "violence," even if he "smacked her pretty good?" This 2011 piece from the HuffPo presents a good case that popular culture has given a pretty lopsided double standard on the question.

97Buckeye's picture

I 100% see where you're coming from and I can understand and even agree with what you're saying. But if the video shows Carlos slapping the woman, and especially if she missed when taking her swing at him, there is going to be an enormous amount of pressure on the Coach to follow through with his stated policy and remove Carlos from the team. He may not want make the move, and he may hate having to do it, but I think he'll have to.
Technicalities won't work in today's media environment.

AndyVance's picture

I agree with your assessment wholeheartedly - the "problem" with zero-tolerance policies is the law of unintended consequences. What I was getting at, in other words, is wondering if Coach Meyer had these types of situations (may they never ever happen again) in mind when he implemented the rule.
I have no doubt that if the video shows anything that isn't a complete "mush/Chappelle," Meyer will be under intense pressure to give Hyde the boot, and more's the pity for both.

AndyVance's picture

...of course it also goes without saying that Coach Meyer made no bones about his gut reaction to the case at the B1G media days. He may be primed to give El Guapo the boot regardless.

acBuckeye's picture

I don't know what's more amusing..... calling the PIO Sgt. Rich Weiner or Sgt. Dick Weiner. 
-------------------------
But I thought if it was reported by the news and was on the Internet, it was true......

faux_maestro's picture

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

dubjayfootball90's picture

This whole situation is just ugly. No matter what happens, people are going to try to keep bringing this up in the future as a black eye on the program, and, more than likely, they will be biased toward their own, wrongfully achieved, beliefs on the situation. Ugh, I hate the media. I really do. Prime example: A news broadcast here in PA spent over seven minutes on the Tom Cruise divorce, and had an anylist/therapist analyze the situation, and before that, they spent less than two minutes on a story where some Individuals (can't remember if law enforcement or civilians) gave their life trying to help and save other people.
As a whole (Entire country), our priorities are FU**ED SIX WAYS FROM SUNDAY. 

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

buckeyedude's picture

The media is corrupt and completely biased. About 50% of the country knows that. The rest of the country takes EVERYTHING the media says as Gospel.

 

 

droessl's picture

My brain on trying to react to the situation after all the bad news then good news, then indifferent news, then quasi good news, then bad news, now this. 

 

cajunbuckeye's picture

I'll take bewildered for $200.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

BuckeyeSki's picture

Banned from BlackShoeDiaries since 2008. Crime: Slander/Defamation of Character Judgement: Guilty

Kaceybrown's picture

Sorry, you just got fat finger down voted. 

OSUnathen's picture

A slap to the face or a hand to the face/stiff arm push away is what this will all come down to. Slap and Hyde is gone,hand to the face/stiff arm push away should clear him or miss a game or two. Doesn't matter if charges are dropped cause Urban will be the final judge.

BraveandBold's picture

Did the woman get charged with Underage???????????? I am sure not being a dumb drunken B!#CH would go along way for her facial health!!

jeremytwoface's picture

Interesting point you make there.
 
 

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Jack Fu's picture

Agreed. The multiple question marks really make you think.

jeremytwoface's picture

As does the capital 'U' in underage.

The first man gets the ((((Oyster)))), the second man gets the shell.

Toilrt Paper's picture

She had to use a fake ID to get into the club to do the underage drinking.

buckguy10's picture

That's a bold statement Cotton, let's see if it pays off for them.

Poison nuts's picture

If you can dodge a wrench...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

Bucks's picture

Has anyone called to find out if Sugar Bar was 21+ that night? They vary I'm pretty sure depending on what is going on between 18 and 21. Or flat out just use the stamp system.
Again, making assumptions ppl.

rekrul's picture

https://www.facebook.com/SugarBar2/info
 
I mean it does say unless otherwise specified but I am unable to find anything to that specific date.
 
 

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

Bucks's picture

I do appreciate that rekrul. Was being sarcastic (forgot the required italicize).

Jason Priestas's picture

Insanely dumb comment.

Unky Buck's picture

Jason, you've unfortunately had to say this way too much of late about this same type of comment.

...

GuGo61's picture

For what?  I thought it was an 18+ club. 

tennbuckeye19's picture

Not only is that a ridiculously stupid take, but its level of idiocy is extremely offensive to all other ridiculously stupid takes. 

Kaceybrown's picture

how did you get the "i" to be upside down like that? 

TWCBUCKEYE's picture

I can't see Urban keeping Hyde as an eligible player if he did in fact lay a finger on the girl, provoked or unprovoked.

"Nothing cleanses your soul like getting the [Mark May] kicked out of you."

Earle's picture

 

 

Just say no to italics abuse.

Toilrt Paper's picture

I'm sure the girl is lawyered up. The Police say she does not have to talk to them about the incident
There is NO WAY this girl wants to talk to the police. She is 19. She was drinking underage. She had to use a fake ID to get into the club. She LIED on the Police Report when she said a person elbowed her in the face. She LIED on the Police Report when she said her nose was bloodied.  She LIED on the Police report when she said she was knocked down/out. She LIED on the Police Report when she said she sprained her ankle. On the Police Report she failed to mention that she swung at this person first. On the Police Report she said she did not know the name of the person. On the Police Report she said she could not give a description of the person.
The police say if the girl does not want to talk to them, they consider the case closed. 

97Buckeye's picture

And none of that will/should matter to Coach Meyer if he sees the video and Carlos clearly slapped the girl. Unless this girl is waving a knife at him, Carlos had no need to lay a finger on her. Even if that might be 100% your or my gut reaction, you just have to be smarter than that. You're the #1 running back on THE Ohio State University football team. You have to know you're going to be held to a higher standard.
Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully... this isn't much of a slap at all. Maybe we'll all see it and say, "Aw, man! He barely touched her." Then, I might say Coach will give him a couple of games on the sideline and be done with it. But if what the source says is true and that Carlos slapped the girl pretty good, I think he's in trouble - regardless of if she ever talks to the police again.

faux_maestro's picture

She LIED on the Police Report when she said a person elbowed her in the face. She LIED on the Police Report when she said her nose was bloodied.  She LIED on the Police report when she said she was knocked down/out. She LIED on the Police Report when she said she sprained her ankle.

Wasn't this info from the other report that turned out not to be this incident?

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

aboynamedtracy's picture

De do do do, de da da da
Is all I want to say to you

J.Mo's picture

I think we safely can say that Carlos probably did slap her and it was probably harmless.
Regardless guys shouldnt go around slapping women and it is disrespectful. I definitively think Carlos Hyde needs punished but I also think he deserves a 2nd chance because I'm willing to believe it's an error in judgment and should he be in the position again, he'd keep walking away. I would love to say kick him off the team to set an example because realistically his position is where the Buckeyes have a ton of talent and I truly believe the next guy in line will have a break out season. At the same time, a lapse in judgment over something so minor - kicking him off the team would really ruin a lot of Hyde's future chances in the NFL or would he be smart enough to enroll on his own to graduate?
If Urban let me make the call - Hyde gets a 6 game suspension, has to take some classes about anger management/respecting women, 100 hours of community service, and when he returns it wouldn't be in a starting role.

Bucks's picture

This is a losing situation for every single person involved directly or even indirectly.
Hyde: At this point, there is going to be some form of punishment. Who knows how severe and quite frankly, is already serving a pretty severe punishment.
Alleged victim: You possibly ommitted the same potential crime that you alleged another of. Not to mention there is that element within any passionate fan base that will not let you live it down, sometimes very extreme.
The team: Just a regretful distraction possibly impacting a season.
Urban: It makes no difference what decision he makes in this, there are going to be some absurd claims of too much and too little. The debate on punch vs slap vs push a woman will be a nightmare if he keeps him on the team with anything less than a 4-6 game suspension. Even still, would be problematic.
The CPD: These ppl have just a few things pressing on their dockets and the ridiculous outcry from people who think they are dragging their feet is just flat out uninformed. The mere fact any spokesman was on the radio about it speaks volumes to how much of a ridiculous circus this is.
 
 

Jack Fu's picture

You left out the fans.

Bucks's picture

I actually thought about putting it in but decided not to. While it annoys me to hear about this stuff, I'm not involved directly as has no bearing on my daily life.

Poison nuts's picture

Bucks - you nailed it on the head...all involved are gonna lose. Just a brutally bad situation.

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

This is the story that doesn't end. Yes it goes on and on my friends. Some people started telling it not knowing what it was, And they'll continue telling it forever just because . . .

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Idaho Helga's picture

LAMBCHOP = UP VOTE for U!  When I was a kid, we all tried to make sock puppets to look like Lambchop.  Every one fell short of the ideal but it was fun.

Kaceybrown's picture

You just got that song stuck in my head. Thx. 

Gametime's picture

A slap and a "Mush" are definitively different - a slap is a strike, a MUSH (a form of a push) is NOT. 
It could be assumed that the girl doesn't want to talk to the police because she'll get charged too and Hyde's actions are in retaliation, which IS taken into mind when in cases like this.
According to Ohio Law, Hyde could claim Self-Defense in that he used a reasonable amount of force to keep himself from getting hit again.
Still, overall this appears to be heading towards a dropped case all together. 
Hyde was walking away and she hit him in the head - forget all that it's a "female" rhetoric - which is easily the most double standard induced subject in our society - what it comes down to is how Urban ultimately feels about the situation.
Hyde may only ultimately get two games also (four at the most) - he didn't punch her, he didn't hurt her, he didn't disrespect her, he was walking away and reacted in the moment that was obviously influenced by alcohol and emotion. And being a guy who 's 6ft 240lbs and as strong as he is, I'd say he definitely showed restraint and no malicious intent to actually hurt the girl - otherwise she doesn't make her long planned vacation.
This thing can't blow over soon enough =/

Between goals and achievement is discipline and consistency. That fire you have inside to do whatever you love is placed there by God. Now go claim it. ~ Denzel Washington

Urban Nation Army's picture

We spoke with a CPD source very close to the situation today and were told that Hyde slapped her "pretty good"

It was nice knowin' ya Carlos. 

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

clogan1032's picture

I agree, if he slapped her pretty good I have to believe he is gone.

bedheadjc's picture

Urban's in a corner on this one. He has to be harsh no matter the circumstance. If Hyde slapped her Urban almost certainly has to boot him. He has to set the tone as an example to the team, and a response to the public's "concern" with his handling of past events.
If it was my call, and Hyde did slap her, he'd be gone. Yes, he has a right to defend himself,etc. but...you just don't do that. No matter if the woman deserved it, the situation warranted it or whatever.

Whosisbrew's picture

This gets more tedious by the day. Why the hell is this dragging on for so long? Did he hit her or didn't he? If there's video evidence of the occurrence, I can't understand why this is taking so long to sort out.

Hovenaut's picture

Well, appreciate the CPD weighing in.

Finally.

Really hope there's some definitive direction on where this is going next week.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I am not very smart.

ih8rolltyde's picture

Okay, let me get this right....

Now Sgt Dick Weiner from the CPD comes out to say all the reporting has been too quick to jump to erroneous conclusions, before he adds an incredibly ambiguous, "slapped her 'pretty good'"

Bring out the damn cameras and Demi's ex cuz I've had enough of this shit.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

tennbuckeye19's picture

I think you need to read the story above again. Sgt Weiner isn't the "source" who said Hyde "slapped her pretty good." He said the reporting was reckless while an unnamed source at the CPD said he "slapped her pretty good.
 

Buckeye1996's picture

you didn't get it straight. Weiner didn't say "slapped her pretty good". A source close to the CPD did.

Yamosu's picture

Man I hate this.  A guy should never hit a girl, but seriously, she took a swing at him first so she initiated this.  My biggest problem with the way Carlos handled this, is that it seemed like he wasn't in the act of trying to defend himself when he slapped her (based on hearsay).  I would be more forgiving if he pushed her face while she was trying to take a swing.  I also have tickets to the Cal game and really want to watch him run the crap over people.  This should in no way impact how the situation is handled, but man this sucks.  I hate that girl for starting shit, and am disappointed in Carlos for not taking the high road. 

urbanwarfare's picture

All of this is very loose butthole

ih8rolltyde's picture

extremely loose butthole indeed.
 
Also sir (or ma'am), i intend to upvote every last post of yours from now till always, just cuz Urban Warfare is has been the name of all my fantasy teams for ab a year and a half now.

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

Bucks's picture

o0o Careful. For all you know, UrbanWarfare has been trying to use that name for his/her own! ;)

urbanwarfare's picture

Haha it was last year. Very odd

jfunk's picture

Did someone say butthole?

Scotch: It may be too early to drink it, yes; but people it is never to early to think about it.

ih8rolltyde's picture

Where do I begin my apologies?

To Sgt Weiner, I apologize for besmirching your good name by attributing the "slapped her pretty good" quote to you. Long shall be the years before I can put the err of my ways behind me.

To the officer that proclaimed the contact, I simply apologize to you because I cannot properly thank you for shedding such great light, where only speculation and biased viewpoints have lived.

To those I've wronged with my first post, may you find properly fitting undergarments.

To Ashton and Demi, you guys had absolutely nothing to do with this: I was being childish. This situation has me quite upset.

To the makers of Punk' d, it was not too bad at first..... however, as the A/B/C listers dried up, so did the watchability of your show.

Whew, now I feel better. #stepone

****igan smells like old water that hot dogs were boiled in.  FACT

zjhousley's picture

If he slapped her or pushed her in the face or whatever, get rid of him!! I dont buy the self defense excuse BS.  She more than likely weighs around 125 pounds and he is around 240.  She couldnt hurt him even if she did land a swing.  If he put his hands on her, get rid of the fool!!! Always been a Hyde fan, but aint no room for women beaters on this team... just my opinion!!!

urbanwarfare's picture

I'm not sure you know the definition of women beater. I'm pretty sure Hyde is not in that category. Also whether he gets kicked off the team or not, let's not sling mud at him. I don't about you but I've made mistakes and done things I wish I could take back

clogan1032's picture

To quote the great Sam Kinison, "Hitting a woman isn't right, but I understand what turns Mr.  Hand into Mr. Fist."
pretty sure everyone agrees hitting a woman is wrong but that clip of Sam is very funny. 

cajunbuckeye's picture

Push, mush, slap, tap, hit, whiffed, missed, did, didn't, coulda, woulda,....

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

faux_maestro's picture

 

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

cdsperr's picture

As a prosecutor, albeit a different State, I will pipe in on a few things:
1. Won't/shouldn't be an underage drinking charge. I'm assuming the video at most shows her holding a drink but how are you going to prove what that liquid is? Could be water, could be coke, who knows. Lets not waste times with a minor infraction that can't be proven and I would likely dismiss right away
2. Seems a prime candidate for a pre trial diversion program if this is charged (see Antonio Morrison's bouncer case for example). That would mean completing some community service,  fine, and probably a conflict resolution course and the charge is dismissed
3. I really hope they don't charge both with assault. Whenever that happens, I shake my head because difficult to prove what was said and whether response was reasonable. In my jurisdiction, we usually advise that if you can't determine a primary aggressor and charge only one, then charge both with a disorderly conduct. ORC 2917.11(1) would be appropriate and is a minor misdemeanor. 
4. Don't get upset at the police. First off, girl is out of town. They aren't going to drop a case because a victim is gone for a week. They also have a lot more crap to deal with than this....like about every 15 seconds. 

penult's picture

What are the ways of determining primary aggressor? Is it likely? And what IF the female in this case is determined as the primary aggressor, what are the possible outcomes?

cdsperr's picture

Again, my jurisdiction is different in that we have lesser degrees of assault and battery. This would likely be a simple battery in my jurisdiction which means an offensive contact that did not leave a mark. Battery is a visible mark like a bruise or cut or scratch. 
As for ways of determining, it is premature to speculate what all is there. Things I would look for are taunting/fighting words, who struck first, did the person who struck first have a reason to do so out of fear (example is size disparity), how did other person respond, how much time passed before the response, etc. The video should answer that but my guess is this isn't your primary aggressor situation in which both people are bloodied and bruised from a fight. This so far appears that she got mad at him about something, hit him, he lost his temper at that and slapped her. Both may have been provoked, and that is why I think a disorderly conduct would be more appropriate. 
 

hit_the_couch's picture

Generally bars use different types of glasses for different drinks, especially at 18+ clubs, so one can be kicked out if seen drinking the wrong glass.
Even if they did identify the glass, I don't think anything would stick because like you say the liquid can't be readily known.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

TheWhiteWhale's picture

slapped her pretty good?  That doesn't sound promising.
Also, for anyone saying Hyde has a viable self-defense claim here, please stop.  It's embarrassing and legally incorrect.

cajunbuckeye's picture

"Pretty good" is very subjective. How many times have you thought you were hittin' it "pretty good"; only to have your wife/girlfriend respond, meh.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

TheWhiteWhale's picture

When a police officer says pretty good, he probably doesn't mean it was a light slap.  I know it's subjective, but come on. 

cajunbuckeye's picture

Well, he is a police officer. That does make me value his opinion more than, say, a short order cook.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

hit_the_couch's picture

It could mean a number of things, as in that he made good contact, it was pretty obvious what he did or it was a hard hit.
Let's think outside of the box.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

cajunbuckeye's picture

That's the problem. Outside the box is speculation and assumptions. Fortunately, our legal system attempts to operate inside the box.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

BuckeyeSouth's picture

Very funny, Cajun.  I'd upvote you but I'm not able.  Somebody pick me up here.

Embrace it.

buckeyedude's picture

How many times have you thought you were hittin' it "pretty good"; only to have your wife/girlfriend respond, meh.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

 

skid21's picture

I have no doubt that if Hyde slapped her he will be gone. You can't blame Urban for that choice. Even if the girl swung at him or even made contact the rules of possible harm will be in place. Urban has no choice. He would be crucified otherwise. The loss of Hyde would be nothing compared to the loss of respect Urban would suffer following the Hernandez situation.

TheWhiteWhale's picture

I have to agree.  If Hyde really did slap her "pretty good," we won't see him in uniform again.

cajunbuckeye's picture

I have no doubt that if Hyde slapped her he "would" be gone. As in, from the University. Already. Over. Finished. Kaput.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

TheWhiteWhale's picture

So you think the CPD is lying?

cajunbuckeye's picture

I think it's all speculation to this point. Someones opinion. Just like the police officer. I think if it was a clear cut decision, Urban would have made his.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

cajunbuckeye's picture

I accidently upvoted you whale. I don't think the officer is lying. He's stating his opinion after reviewing the video. He's he an expert on the mechanic's of physical force. I do not know that. He can calculate the force applied to the women in this incident. I do not know that. I am stating my opinion on the officers statement.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

hit_the_couch's picture

The coaching staff likely hasn't seen the vid.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

buckeyedude's picture

And maybe never will?

 

 

Furious George 27's picture

I kind of just think if he slapped her pretty good he would be arrested and not being dragged out no matter if she started it. But if that is the case suspend him or worse if it was more than a reflex when someone punches you.... I kind of just see cops like everyone now, just trying to figure things out. Kind of think its in bad taste to make a comment if you cannot figure it out 100% in a report or video as well. 

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

Idaho Helga's picture

Skid: You just said more succinctly what I posted earlier.  The down vote is weird, I up voted you.

hit_the_couch's picture

Everything logical is getting down votes. But then again, I forgot that no one wants the truth.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

63tinman's picture

I wish someone would just speculate on the speculative speculation so many have speculated on already.  

DarkBeer's picture

Regardless of the type of hit, or even if he hit her at all, what is he doing in a place like this in the first place?  I realize he is still young, but screw your head on for a minute.  You are a top rated back on a top rated team.  You have a tremendous amount of upside potential staring you in the face in the next 12 months.  Can you think about how wonderful that can be and forego doing stupid things like hanging out in a bar?  When is the last time a football player was involved in an incident in a bar and wound up being a hero?

Evannati's picture

I'm sure Urban now also factors in the possibility of any player murdering someone in the next few years. 

D. Anthony's picture

I keep hearing about Urban's zero tolerance policy on hitting woman BUT Storm Klein was also hit first before he made contact, and his ex dropped charges and he was back on the team...this is different because a video exists but Storm already had previous issues and was let back on, so projecting this out, it might be hard for Carlos and his family to feel like he was given the 2nd chance Urban has afforded others...if he's kicked off the team.

D. Anthony

Nutty's picture

Agree. I do think this situation will be different. Urban will have little choice. If Hyde hit the girl, provoked or not, he will be off the team. Urban can't do anything else as much as we want to think otherwise. The backlash would be horrific. Buckeye fans are the only ones trying to find a way to rationalize Hyde's behavior. No one other that Buckeye fans are interested in being fair to Hyde. Unjust or not that is the fact. 

pjtobin's picture

One of my favorite musicians, Waylon Jennings , had a song that went " Stop the world and let me off. I'm tired of going round and round. " I think it hits the nail on the head for this situation. 
Also reminds me of a few more of my favorite musicians, Eminem & Dr. Dre, in their song Em raps a part that says " Everybody talks like they got something to say but nothing comes out when they move their lips just a bunch of jibberish ". I won't finish it because no one ever forgot Dre. In this situation everyone IS talking. The story keeps going round and round. And I just want it to go away. We need to get this resolved ASAP. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Love Waylon. Honkey Tonk Heroes is, undoubtedly, one of the best country records ever.

pjtobin's picture

I have down loaded so many of his songs to my iPod I have no clue the album. You name the song the chances are good I have it. I am a huge fan. Always have been. 
Do you like Jamey Johnson ? He reminds of Waylon. He has put out some great songs. And his Waylon cover songs are amazing. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

63tinman's picture

I am coming to Columbus to see Jamey Johnson this Sunday. I think it's at Scioto Downs.  A good friend of mine is his steel player, and I have seen that show so many times I know it by heart.  Too bad I'm not a fan of most of his music.  Lol It's always good to see an old friend, though!  

Haybucks's picture

Yeah, I agree PJ.  One of my favorite movies has a good line for what's been circling this news...

You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was. - Irish proverb

 

amk1616's picture

if this has already been addressed, i apologize.
 
If the case gets dropped, what happens to the video?
If the video isn't made public and charges aren't filed, then unless Hyde comes forward and admits guilt, how could you remove him from the team?

TheWhiteWhale's picture

If there is one thing you can be sure of, it's that we will eventually see the video. 

buckeyedude's picture

Really? It may never be made public.

 

 

bodast67's picture

 

 

 

     " I hope when I die, I die laughing"...                

nickma71's picture

How is the video not yet on youtube?

XUbuckeye's picture

I wish someone would slap me to wake me up from this nightmare, it's giving me a headache. 

"So when you get knocked on your butt, get up, get over it, and then next time, kick their ass." - Woody Hayes 

CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

I fully agree with the title.  This story has been blown way out of proportion.