Report: Hyde Did Not Strike Alleged Victim; Charges Not Expected to be Filed

By Jason Priestas on July 23, 2013 at 7:46p
335 Comments

Developing news in the Carlos Hyde case. Take it away Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports:

Surveillance footage from a Columbus nightclub appears to clear Ohio State running back Carlos Hyde of an alleged assault, a source familiar with the investigation told Yahoo! Sports.

Charges are not expected to be filed against Hyde after video from Sugar Bar 2 shows he didn't appear to make contact with an alleged victim who claimed to have been assaulted early Saturday morning, a source who spoke to Yahoo! Sports on the condition of anonymity said. The source said video shows Hyde speaking in the direction of the alleged victim just prior to her punching him in the head. The video then shows Hyde leaving the area and reaching back in the woman's direction in a non-confrontational manner, the source said. From the video, it doesn't appear Hyde ever made contact with the woman – either before or after she struck him, the source said.

To recap: Hyde spoke to girl, she punched him in the head. Hyde then left the area and reached back in her direction in a "non-confrontational" manner. Got it.

We're still waiting for official word, but if you know anything about Charles Robinson, you know the man is rarely ever wrong.

This is inline with what ESPN's Brett McMurphy reported yesterday of video surveillance contradicting widespread reports of Hyde allegedly striking a woman at Sugar Bar 2 in Columbus' Brewery District.

More as this develops.

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Ahh Saturday's picture

Let me be the first to say hoot, hoot!

Abe Froman's picture

But it should be understood that Hyde should be lauded for this if it is  the case.  He will get an extra applause or two in the first game.  It should like he did exactly what he should have done.  ❗Bueno El Guapo❗

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

Chief B1G Dump's picture

WELCOME BACK BIG FELLA!!!
Now let's get back to talking about camp starting, the chase and beating the shit out of Bama!

lamplighter's picture

Let me say stay the hell out of bars

Dr. House's picture

nothing good happens at bars after midnight. period

Remington2323's picture

I disagree, picking up chicks is Good.

YTOWNBUCKI's picture

Agreed.  I've been a part of and seen some kick ass stuff in bars after midnight.  I think the only time it's true that nothing good happens after midnight is maybe if you're in Tijuana. 

Crimson's picture

I'm sorry.  You are not allowed to disagree with Tressel.  He is our saviour (sorry, was our saviour)!

vitaminB's picture

TJ doesn't even start warming up until 2AM.  The bars close at sunrise.

cinserious's picture

Sounds like Nawlins! Damn that place and I'm glad we're not LSU!

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

SPreston2001's picture

Yeah I totally disagree. Bad things are going to happen everywhere but I have went out to bars PLENTY of times without any problems. Lots of good times are to be had after midnight (SEX SEX SEX!!). These are college KIDS!! They are going to live their lives. Lets not act like we never stayed out after midnight....

NorthernOhioBuckeye's picture

I have to disagree with you. While you may have a some good times there, you most likely were not an incoming Senior starting RB for the Buckeyes. These guys need to be getting ready to win their next 14 ball games. This is late July with camp starting very soon. Hyde and Roby are supposed to be leaders on this team, but they are now having to worry about if they will even be part of the team at the start of the season.

Could you imagine John Simon or Justin Boren getting into this kind of trouble let alone this close to the season? They were leaders. This team is in serious need of leaders and these 2 guys are not displaying those characteristics. If someone does not step up and show the type of leadership that Simon and Boren displayed, this could be a disappointing season. 

jvd253's picture

Best news I've read since Sunday night...

"A guy from Ohio can make it in life if he works hard enough." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes

jaxbuckeye's picture

Woo-hoo!!!!  Let's see the chatter now!!!!

Buckeye80's picture

Sounds like Hyde could have filed assault charges…
i hope if this is true that tOSU comes out and gives a statement fully exonerating him. 
#dontrushtojudge

Buckeye Stuck In Illini Country's picture

No kidding! I've gotten nothing but grief from my coworkers (several TTUN supporters) since Sunday. I hope if El Guapo is innocent, which seems increasingly likely, that he name is cleared with same vigor in which is was dragged through the mud.

I may live among a bunch of Illini, but I'll be a Buckeye until the day that I die.

BamBamBuck's picture

I agree! If it happened as described then he should be reinstated immediately, as well as being commended for doing the right thing by walking away.

BamBamBuck

YtownBuck13's picture

If this is true then this girl needs to have charges pressed on her. Remember the girl who won a multi million dollar settlement against Long Beach Schools and Brian Banks of USC ? People need to be taught a lesson for false accusations!

zjhousley's picture

filing false police report, assault, and a defamation lawsuit by Hyde could all very well be options..

CC's picture

It's not over yet, but Duke lacrosse anyone?

Toilrt Paper's picture

Her daddy is a Columbus cop, nothing will be done.

BuckeyeAsylum's picture

Assaulting OSU football player vs daughter of a Columbus cop... I would think that the football player actually wins the "power" struggle, though who her dad is could help sway a more lenient punishment.

Either way, I imagine her dad is entirely ecstatic about his daughter's humiliating behavior...

droessl's picture

AWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAAAAA

BamBamBuck's picture

If this holds up I hope Hyde or possibly tOSU goes after the little drama queens that like to start shit just to see a reaction. Not a lawyer but slander, sounds about right.

BamBamBuck

XUbuckeye's picture

Glad to hear that this is clearing up, welcome back El Guapo!

"So when you get knocked on your butt, get up, get over it, and then next time, kick their ass." - Woody Hayes 

Dr. House's picture

you took my gif that i was going to use, here is my back up though

Savage45's picture

Way to go Hyde! Now this woman should be charged with assault!

jaxbuckeye's picture

What does that chump, big-mouth running back from SC have to twitter now!?

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

jaxbuckeye's picture

Wish I knew how to imbed tweets but he opened his big mouth without having facts. 

Fugelere's picture

Mike Davis from S. Carolina said Hyde deserved to be dismissed or something like that.  Will see if I can find and link it....
Mike Davis @Mike28davis
Soo you punched a girl at a bar .. Yes you deserved to be dismissed from college football. Can't be putting hands on a female period
2:14 PM - 22 Jul 2013
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BassDropper's picture

I agree with him...fortunatly it looks like El Gaupo didnt put hands on her

DIRECTIONER

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

He's right, you deserve to be dismissed from college football if you punched a woman.  Thankfully, the truth came out that Hyde didn't punch a woman.

Class of 2010.

Toilrt Paper's picture

Another college football player hanging another college football player before there was an arrest should be made to run until he pukes unless he apologizes.

jaxbuckeye's picture

It isn't his stance on hitting women. I think most agree on that. It's the fact that there were no facts and he opened his big mouth, about a fellow player, no less.

wibuckeye's picture

Moron found in the ess eee see, Back to you Clay Travis

WIBUCKEYE

Gametime's picture

That's one down, now we gotta see what happens with Roby!. (Who, IMO will get two games max)

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Boom-Ski for the layperson...

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denner's picture

A woman lied for attention and or a payday?  This can't be..

Jason Priestas's picture

That's pretty insulting to women everywhere, I imagine, and I think it's still too early to jump to that conclusion. We should have it cleared up soon, though.

Citrus's picture

I don't think he meant to implicate all women. However, many "he-said/she-said" situations in the past involving athletes have been shown to be gross exaggerations or out-and-out lies.

denner's picture

It was tongue in cheek.  Jeez.
This guy had his name dragged through the mud by national media and others due to what appears are false accusations.   That would be insulting.

OSUs12-OH's picture

Don't worry about him. He's always plays internet site police. Except against the douchebag trolls he should that plague us here. Oh well...I got his joke...may be he should have put it in italics for the internet po poes.lol
As far as El Guapo...I'm pumped for this video that cleared his name. Now Meyer is laughing his ass off at the media for jumping on this like it was the end of the OSU program and this and that about FL BS. Love this...it's redemption day tomorrow;-)

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

CALPOPPY's picture

Are you stating that Jason is playing internet site police? Because I'm confused. Are you complaining about Jason making a rather polite comment to not denigrate a whole class of people? How dare he police the site he started. What attitude he has. 

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

Jason Priestas's picture

I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that national media and others dragging Hyde through the mud is insulting if this report turns out to be true. I don't believe that gives anyone license to lump all women together as opportunists lying for fame or money, either.

TheBadOwl's picture

I really wish I could upvote staff at times like these.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

ToothBuck's picture

pretty sure it was a joke. laugh.

irishfury's picture

Its just the way of the world.  If this video didn't exist Hyde would have possibly lost his dream.  He already had his name drug thru the mud.  I understand that the poster above shouldn't categorize all woman our like this.  It just a shame that he was being crucified for something he didn't do.  
If it is true she hit him and walked away the only person she was hurting was Hyde and real victims of abuse.

Dr. House's picture

the only way to undrag him through the mud is to release the tape and everyone get down on their knees and say sorry.

Defiance J's picture

Yeah, cause it never happened before. Your comment was insulting. 

Savage45's picture

I haven't seen the video, but if it is true the she hit him, then she clearly lied.
DENNER is just speculating about the reason.
Did she lie because she wanted attention, or revenge? Was she trying to protect herself or hide something from her past? Maybe she felt El Guapo was untrustworthy or she was dissatisfied with him?
There can't be many other motives for her lie can there?

Alice in Aggieland's picture

It's the first part of "joke" that's offensive, IMO. Had he phrased it as "somebody" or "a person," then it wouldn't have that nice undercurrent of sexism we all SO enjoy. [/sarcasm]

Jason Priestas's picture

^^^ Hey, a real girl weighs in on the undercurrent of sexism above. Let's downvote her!

How is the original comment any different than "A [black person/Mexican/gay person] [did X]?  This can't be.."

cinserious's picture

A woman weighing in on the comment and saying its offensive is how it SHOULD be. I think people are tired of guys jumping at the opportunity to be the knight in shining armor for "women everywhere".

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

+1 HS
Alice in Aggieland's picture

How is the original comment any different than "A [black person/Mexican/gay person] [did X]?  This can't be.."

Thank you, Jason. YES. This is why it's insulting. It's a blanket indictment of an entire segment of the population. I honestly wouldn't even have been offended had the original poster just said "she" instead of "a woman." Don't brand all women as opportunists looking for a payout. Geez.
Anyway, hopefully the video exonerates El Guapo and we can all continue to conspiracy-theorize what all Gardner did to get his ass kicked off the team.

CC's picture

Do we really want to have this conversation here?
If so I have another question.  Why is everyone offended by everything?  I can't imagine going around being offended by every crack someone made about some category I fit into. 
Oh wait, I'm not allowed to be offended.  I'm a white, male and Catholic.

Toilrt Paper's picture

There are no righteous motives to strike someone and then lie and say that person elbowed you.

Citrus's picture

Soooo Hyde did the right thing and left the situation?

Maybe he said something raunchy. Who knows? "Victim" shouldn't be punching people. Imagine being El Guapo with reports swirling that you knocked a woman unconscious

GODOFWARBUCKEYE's picture

Thats a damm shame when you have folks in the bar blantly tell the police and the media lies. SMH

"GIMMIE THAT BEAT FOOL!!! IT'S A FULL TIME JACK MOVE" Ice Cube jack for beats..

Bucks's picture

I'm not celebrating until official word is released but sounding pretty fantastic. I'm mostly excited for Hyde. This has been utterly bizarre. Thankful for the cameras in this. Without those it looked to be alleged victim, her cohort statements & Hyde. < Not a good situation.

BuckeyeAsylum's picture

Given the multiple people I have heard that have met him, the accusations of what "happened" don't even fit him and its really sad that it got thrown out there like this.

3GB's picture

FREE EL GUAPO

Hovenaut's picture

Soon?

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

BassDropper's picture

I agree. If I dont see shirts by Friday Im going to be disappointed 

DIRECTIONER

buckeyedude's picture

Bumper stickers, NOW.
 
I'll put it right next to my "Free Tibet" and "COEXIST" bumper stickers. <-----That is a joke, just FYI.

 
 

bedheadjc's picture

Hey man, let your freak flag fly...this is a free country. I have a" Tree Hugging Dirt Worshipper" on mine....also a "Not on the rug, man."...

Fugelere's picture

"...it really tied the room together."

Earle's picture

EL GUAPO LIBERADO!!

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

Hovenaut's picture

So, who's ready for B1G Media Days?

#socialmediabullshit

#apologiesfor34

#dontbelievethehypdebelievethehyde

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Me!

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

osuguy2008's picture

If this is true and Hyde is 100% proven to have not done anything wrong, then I hope he learns a valuable lesson for the rest of his career. It may be nice to be a big time player at a big time college football power house, but with that comes some extra responsibility to protect yourself,your teammates, and your school's image. You may enjoy the night life but you also need to learn when to call it a night and get out before craziness can start. 

buckeyedude's picture

What lesson did he learn here, OSUGUY? Make sure to duck quicker? I agree he prolly shouldn't have been there, BUT IF, IF, IF IF IF, it's true and he didn't lay a hand on this girl then he didn't do anything wrong, and I commend him for using restraint.
What if she hit him with his back turned? A sucker punch. Some dudes might just start swinging. Reflex action. He didn't do that.

 
 

BuckeyeAsylum's picture

The lesson: Even if you didn't do something wrong, doesn't mean someone won't try and possibly tear you down. In this case, there was a surveillance camera to potentially save his ass. If that camera wasn't there, the narrative remains VERY similar to Monday and could have become a very deep rabbit hole. Just gotta be careful and realize that some places/events may end you up where you didn't intend, quickly.

Toilrt Paper's picture

HUGE lessen for the every Wednesday deportment and rules players meeting. If you are soon to be a high draft choice there are literally thousands of people out that that want a piece of you. Even if you aren't on the 2-deep, Columbus is a big city with a large metropolitan. Not all of the 1,000,000 people are Buckeye fans there are people in Columbus who hate the Buckeyes, like Brady Hoke, BEWARE.

joshhersh's picture

Can we please get some publicly spoken "I was wrongs". From a few media members who claim to be writers?  Clay Travis....you wrote an entire piece on Urban Meyer based on Carlos Hyde being a woman beating thug...except it doesn't appear he is! Dick

jmw's picture

You are arguing for 'accountability' with these hack journalists (I use that term loosely)...there is none.  If any of these jack-holes ever revisited their accusations after all the facts were out then they'd be wrong most (I mean all) of the time and have to apologize.  But that would require these people to be ethical.
(Not trying to lump all journalists as unethical)
 

jw

Oldschoolbuck's picture

Josh, don't hold your breath for that. As I said on another thread, these clowns aren't journalists interested in finding out and reporting FACTS; they're serial sensationalists with no conscience, decency, class or integrity. The best thing is to try and ignore their drivel and hope they crawl back under their rocks.

Brutus's picture

This will count for nothing, particularly to Carlos Hyde, but I will admit that i was wrong.  In the early goings yesterday, I posted something about stuff like this never magically resolving itself in the accused's favor, particularly where college athletes are involved.  I never assumed Hyde's guilt but I did assume that we wouldn't be seeing him play again anytime soon.  In reality, that's pretty much assuming his guilt.  Where there is smoke, there is not always fire. Lesson learned.

buckeyedude's picture

It takes a man to admit when he is wrong and apologize. Now apologize to El Guapo and all is good.

 
 

BuckeyeAsylum's picture

That is a pretty high task to ask for that person. He made his mistake in this such medium, he apologized in this such medium. To ask him to obtain some sort of access to Hyde to make a personal apology, that's asking a bit much. I guess it wouldn't be impossible to write a letter and mail to WHAC and that may just get to him...

buckeyedude's picture

Dude. You're thinking WAY too hard. The second part was sarcasm. I forgot the italics. My bad.

 
 

bucks15's picture

This is such awesome news, if true.  Considering he would be innocent of any wrong doing, I wonder if he will be suspended?  He didn't put himself in a good situation, but is that suspension worthy? 
Man I'm happy.  

zjhousley's picture

idk... meyer may still give some kind of punishment for putting himself in this situation.  probably a game tops if anything.  He may do something to send a message to "his" recruits.

BuckeyeAsylum's picture

If he is clear of charges and incident, Meyer is not going to give him a game suspension for someone taking a swing at him then filing a false police report. This logic is absurd. Punishing someone for walking away from a stupid situation is stupid as hell. He was listed as a person of interest, school cuts ties pending outcome, outcome shows player did nothing wrong and arguably did a smart thing and walked away, why would you punish them? This at most merits a little talk and I'd say positive reinforcement for making the smarter move.

(The logic of punishing Hyde here would be sending a message that if you go and have a social life and do nothing wrong you can still end up punished just for making a decision to go have a social life.)

BABuckeye's picture

Scary to think what would have happened to a man's life if the cameras were not there.
(Cue Bob Dylan's Hurricane)

Bucks's picture

I will say that I'm glad to see the tweets start to roll in of apologies to Hyde. Rushing to judgment is just never a good idea.

nfischer's picture

It would be nice if 11W could collate and post a media reaction segment (relevant twitter comments, article reactions, etc.). I would love to see those. Just an idea.

Urban Nation Army's picture

HATERS GONNA HATE

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

Citrus's picture

I think Nick Cage's expressions here represent Buckeye nation since Sunday night.

GoBucks10's picture

ESPN doesn't seem to have bothered to make any change to their story.  Headline on NCAAF still says Hyde is suspended.  If this all turns out to be true, great job by Hyde by turning away and taking the high road.
 

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

GoBucks10's picture

Also...good for Hyde and most likely Urban Meyer for making sure Carlos doesn't go out with some ridiculous comments on the interwebs.

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

ToothBuck's picture

They rushed to post the  story, but wont rush to post a pro-buckeye update, even though the entire twittersphere has been there for at least 30 minutes.

CincyOSU's picture

Actually they didn't. Their story was posted at the same time as SI, Yahoo, CBS, Fox Sports, etc.
Also, it appears you have forgotten that an ESPN reporter was the first to report, last night, on the video evidence clearing Hyde.

btalbert25's picture

Why let things like fact and truth get in the way of RAGE AGAINST ESPN!!!!!!!

FROMTHE18's picture

LIBERTAD PARA EL GUAPO

buckeyedude's picture

^^^^^What he said!

 
 

jvd253's picture

New cocktail: Guapo Libre?

"A guy from Ohio can make it in life if he works hard enough." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes

Urban Nation Army's picture

Maybe I should have read some but I just upvoted every comment!

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

toad1204's picture

Part of is all like

But still the Roby and Baugh situations...

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

Buckeye Stuck In Illini Country's picture

One victory at a time...Take what we can get, I suppose.

I may live among a bunch of Illini, but I'll be a Buckeye until the day that I die.

BUCKfutter's picture

there really need to be harsher penalties in our legal system for false accusations.

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

GoBucks10's picture

Absolutely agree.

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

FROMTHE18's picture

agree and disagree. I think no one should cause problems for someone else by essentially making things up; however, something like this its best to treat it as the real thing. Don't want to discourage anyone from reporting things as they remember them, even if it is off. Girl thinks she got hit, better to go through with the report than to think 'maybe this didnt happen'

CC's picture

I disagree. You should discourage people from reporting things, things that didn't happen. Duke lacrosse should have taught us that.

Crimson's picture

Two different things.  Police always have to investigate like it's true, but there can still be stiff penalties for false accusations.  In this case, police have investigated like it's true, even though there may be false accusations (likely at this point).

irishfury's picture

How long do I have to wait to upvote comments cause I need to upvote this.

BuckeyeVet's picture

Got it for you.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

Young_Turk's picture

I don't know what the penalty is, but they should def charge her with assault, and filing a false police report.  Having said that, I fully expect the cop's daughter to skate with a stern verbal warning.  

Urban Nation Army's picture

The Guapo Redemption

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

t-dub's picture

sometimes you have to swim though a mile of crap...  I have to personally apologize to Mr Hyde.  I assumed the worst that was not fair to him.  Thanks for doing the right thing young man, it is not always easy but it's always right.

"What is our aim, I can tell you in one word. Victory" Winston Churchill

RoyMunson's picture

Is it possible that Hyde's alleged assault took place earlier in the night, like in the bar, and that this is after the fact?
 
I hope not, and I don't want to a big ball of negative energy, but I just don't want to be relieved, only to be crushed again.

AeroBuckeye2001's picture

I would think they have relevant surveillance video for the entire time in question.

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AeroBuckeye2001's picture

Freedom...God bless America.

The Ohio State University Class of 2001
BS Aero & Astronautical Engineering

osubigcunn's picture

Let me say what all of buckeye nation is thinking right now. WHEW! Go with the flow El Guapo! Become a better man and a better buckeye for this incident. For that matter, Urban should use this as a rallying cry to the rest if the team to straighten up because it could only take a second for a career or a legacy to be tainted forever.

2014nationalchamps's picture

true dat. I think this might just scare everyone enough on the team to keep them focused. 

O-H-I-O  for life

Fugelere's picture

That's good news.  Viva El Guapo!

Urban Nation Army's picture

Dear Clay Travis

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

Bucks's picture

This is absolutely beautiful.

bedheadjc's picture

Oh lord, that's wonderfull.

toad1204's picture

You sir have won the day.

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

Urban Nation Army's picture

Credit to Cpt. Obvious on the Muschamp article but it definitely fit here

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

Stinson's picture

This is the best thing I've ever seen.

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

pcuzz1's picture

What makes this that much more sweet for me, is the fact that my scum buddy tried shoving this in my face.. Cant wait to see what he has to say now! Welcome back El Guapo and bravo on on walking away from the situation before it escalated

pat cozzens

Scott's picture

My guess is he'll still be a prick.

Class of 2008

WildBear Buckeye's picture

MGoBlog be MGoBloggin'!
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/video-clears-carlos-hyde
One poster apologizes for jumping to conclusions, a couple say that it's good that Hyde is cleared, but the prevailing sentiment is "bullshit, OSU/Columbus cops/the Devil are covering it up for him!" Stay classy Michigan fans!

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

They fear Hyde.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

WildBear Buckeye's picture

With good reason. The chip on the collective shoulder of commenters at that blog is massive. If you can't beat 'em, accuse them and their head coach of covering up crimes!

Urban Nation Army's picture

they should

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

BuckeyeAsylum's picture

Wow that highlight is actually REALLY good at that point... The further into the game the more he started doing substantial damage. I'd be fking scared of this dude running over my defense if I were opposing him.

BUCKfutter's picture

The run at 2:05 is mind-numbing. Sidesteps a guy then just pure power to the outside.  This guy is going to be special this year.

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

BuckeyeVet's picture

Scum buddy = oxymoron.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

Earle's picture

Sounds like a cleaning product.

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iamcbs's picture

If the reports are true, I'll bet the mea culpa's wont be nearly as loud as the condemnations were. Let's hope UFM gets his share of the apologies as well!!

I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep, I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion~Alexander the Great

2014nationalchamps's picture

im just glad Carlos can now relax and go back to playing football. So many people threw this young man under the bus, esp on Cle radio. 
If im Carlos, Im suing this woman for slander.  

O-H-I-O  for life

ToothBuck's picture

That would still be tough to do and draw a lot of attention. I wouldnt be surprised if Carlos just tries to let this thing go away and focus on the potentially great 2013 season.
 

buckeyedude's picture

That is EXACTLY what Carlos is going to do. Mark it down.

 
 

buckeyeguy0615's picture

So.. doesn't this still make Adam Griffin a liar? 

bedheadjc's picture

My wife was pointing this out. Not so good....

buckeyeguy0615's picture

I mean.. he said Hyde was his roommate and he wasn't even there. Yeah, obviously.  Why didn't Griffin just not say anything at all?

BassDropper's picture

Im not going to lie, I would try to protect my friends too...especially since I know they arent the type to put hands on women.

DIRECTIONER

buckeyeguy0615's picture

So.. why don't you say he was there but he didn't put his hands on her?

buckz4evr's picture

He may have been talking about the initial report of this happening at a different bar

thowen79's picture

OR maybe this woman got punched in the face by someone else AFTER Carlos Hyde left...I haven't seen any more information about the incident, but for all we know this woman did not lie about getting punched in the face, maybe she decided to hit some other guy later on and HE is the one that punched her and all she or anyone else remembers was the incident with Carlos Hyde.
We still don't have all the facts in this thing and once again people seem to be jumping to conclusions about the woman making false accusations or being in it for attention. I could be wrong but I don't ever remember any report saying that the woman accused "Carlos Hyde", just that she didn't know who he was but could identify him.

rekrul's picture

Possibly because he probably knows Hyde did not hit the girl so he figured it was probably someone else.  My guess, if I put myself in the same situation I would be like...  "WTF, he was not even there at the time because he did not lay hands on anyone."  Meaning we left before 'ish went down.

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

VintonCountyBuck's picture

  Not that he wasn't before..But this team may have just found the leader they are going to rally around for this upcoming season.
  Sometimes it is in someone's personality, other times it is in their situations that create great leadership traits.  As we all saw in 2012, the feeling of being wronged can be a great motivator.

“Right now, Michigan is not at the pinnacle of college football, and that’s all Urban Meyer cares about...He’s been there and knows what it takes to get there.” 

FROMTHE18's picture

I undestand what you are getting at but at the same time, I dont think this is really a John Simon in the making type of situation...Hydes been a good kid and shown some great character traits but im not sure this really makes him a leader

buckz4evr's picture

Walking away from a potential volatile situation does show leadership.  Maybe if Carlos had done this the week before, Roby wouldn't be in the mess he is in.

captain obvious's picture

SHOCKER

EL GUAPO is INNOCENT
 

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

captain obvious's picture

I wonder what backpage ESPN will report this on?

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

vitaminB's picture

To be fair the first mention of this video evidence I saw came from ESPN.  I was shocked.

13THandSummit's picture

Pfft... who needs facts.

FUqUespin's picture

If UFM wanted an angry team, he will have one now...

FUqU, e!spin!!

WildBear Buckeye's picture

I'm not sure the team being angry at Columbus police (who seem to be doing their job in this case) or at women who file false reports really helps anyone.

Buckeye80's picture

How about being angry at half the world who rushed to judge their teammate and coach?  It's an us against the world mentality. 

Nkohl13's picture

If I were Urban I would ask Hyde what he said that prompted the girl to punch him in the first place. If he tells the truth then let him back on the team, and if what he said was disrespectful towards her then give him some sort of punishment for it. Obviously nothing over the top, but enough to get the point across.

WildBear Buckeye's picture

This really makes me wonder how that 7am Monday morning conversation went. I'm guessing Hyde asserted his innocence ... then what?

OSUStu's picture

He has already been punished beyond what he deserved if this all turns out to be the truth of it.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

USMC11917's picture

Words should not provoke action. It doesn't matter what he said. If the roles are reversed would anything said to Hyde be justification to strike her or even a dude of equal stature? The answer is no. It's assault either way.

Nkohl13's picture

I'm not saying he wasn't assaulted. He was assaulted. One of Urban's main rules is to respect women. If Hyde said something disrespectful to a woman he is breaking that rule and deserves to be punished for breaking it. It doesn't matter if she hit him or not. If he didn't say anything bad and the assault was completely unprovoked than this is a non issue.

airbuckeye's picture

Obviously you have been blinded to how the real world works when it comes to women of have been living under a rock in never never land. Women not all women but some women are not all sugar and spice like the fairy tail leads you to believe. But i do agree no women should ever be hit but if a women gets so far out of line hits you or says shit then yes she deserves what every you have to say right back to her. Hey women are not the only sex that gets abused by the other but you won't find men filing abuse charges against women. Make them look weak in the eyes of their friend but it does happen trust me i had a wife who was a physio patch but when it started i just walked out and came home later.

Nkohl13's picture

I was referring to the part that said he turned and said something in her general direction before she punched him. I was saying that if he said something nasty to her he deserves to do some running or some work around buckeye grove. 

USMC11917's picture

Really? How much control do you want the coaches to have over these kids. You want the way he communicates to be monitored too? We have no idea what was said or who said what first. It's not enough that fans think the worst of Hyde and pretend to know what happened when Hyde "struck" the "victim" now your going to pretend that he was the aggressor in the exchange of words? That assumption isn't based off fact? Your serving Hyde another injustice.

BuckeyeAsylum's picture

Yet, racial slurs or sexist slurs could draw the great majority of the country into an aggressive attack very quickly. While they shouldn't provoke action, they do. If Hyde were to do something of this distaste, then you can't remove all blame from him. Of course, I still wouldn't have an idea what kind of punishment table this would put him in, but I could see words receiving SOME sort of backlash from Urban, even if nothing more than just a tongue lashing. I'd be highly skeptical to see anything more than an above average practice difficulty for it.

Furious George 27's picture

Exceeeelllleeeent!!!!

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

EL GUAPO will crush everybody this year to say FUCK YOU to those that ran his name through the mud so prematurely!!!  He will be running with anger and that is NOT going to be good for defenses!!!
HAPPY DAY HAPPY DAY HAPPY DAY!!!!

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osubuck57's picture

Let me to be the first to apologize to El Guapo, for condemning and falsely accusing him, based on what we had heard!! Have a feeling he's gonna be getting a lot of those in the coming days.

SCOTTC.

James F's picture

 
Exciting news!!!

Crimson's picture

"Exciting."  I see what you did there.

Ohio State Ombre's picture

like i said in the other thread...innocent until proven guilty

captain obvious's picture

Bleacher report just reported Yahoo has reported the good news where are you ESPN?

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

CincyOSU's picture

Are you forgetting that an ESPN reporter was the first to break the news about the video yesterday?

rekrul's picture

EverySportscasterProcrastinatesNews, in regards to good news for tOSU...

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

northwest_buckeye's picture

There are so many ass clowns out there that have butt-hurt on a scale that even poor ol' Andy Dufresne, on the longest night of his life, can't even imagine.
 

I've never said I 'hate' anyone because that would imply I had any emotion for them whatsoever.

pjtobin's picture

Great news. I hope it is all true I'm glad he walked away. I hope the trolls heads explode!!

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

buckeyedude's picture

Wow! Even Data is jacked! He never shows emotion!

 
 

Urban Nation Army's picture

Hyde right in the middle!

Still concerned about the Roby situation but Amen

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

CC's picture

Funny, kg but no bm.

J.Mo's picture

Probably only the seniors...

Drewbuckeye's picture

For those thinking and saying that all the people in the club lied, I dont think so. I think it was more of that one or two people said that and then it started spreading around the club and people acted like they knew everything that went on. The ones who started it may have had a bad angle, assuming the club was packed or it could have been the girl and the fake story just spread through the club like a rumor in elementary school.

F--- Michigan!

Buckeye1996's picture

I'm sorry but that's bullshit. If you didn't see it and acted like you did then its a lie.

AeroBuckeye2001's picture

Video surveillance from Sugar Bar:

The Ohio State University Class of 2001
BS Aero & Astronautical Engineering

USMC11917's picture

That a young Money Maker Mike?

Boomcat's picture

Screw it, I'm celebrating already. 
 
 

House804's picture

Favorite GIF of all time.  Thank you.

We talkin' bout practice?!  Not the game I love...the game I die for.  Practice?!

Urban Nation Army's picture

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

Bucks's picture

I'm trying to prevent myself from rushing to concluding this is going to be a vindication in the same way I wanted to wait for the facts originally.
With that being said, if this goes as it looks to be going, there had better be a thunderous roar at ridiculous volume when he first touches the ball. Doesn't matter how much someone in his situation might try to block everything out, imagine walking on campus knowing that most of your peers are looking at you as the woman beater.

Cdrone92's picture

Getting the comfortably seated 75% of the Shoe to cheer is a problem in general...but I agree. They better all cheer (me included) with one heck of a vindication to walk out of this season 14-0 after all this.

SilverState's picture

Well played Elika...

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

NICE!!!

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captain obvious's picture

I dont know how to imbed tweets but someone please go on there.
@ericgobucks  just called Doyel a Walmart Wolverine

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

BuckeyeVet's picture

Elika - we love you. Keep it up!

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

1stYrBuckIClub's picture

Elika is my f'n spirit animal!

buckeyedude's picture

VIVA EL GUAPO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M READY FOR A GRAY BOX! A GOOD ONE, THAT IS!

 
 

SilverState's picture

Sooo creepy...haha.

Danify's picture

For some reason I can't stop watching this ...

MN Buckeye's picture

Too many people get their exercise by leaping to conclusions.

Poison nuts's picture

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Jugdish's picture

AndyB hasn't posted his apology for this.

 

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buckeyedude's picture

I like Andy. He's a witty dude and adds a lot to this website. But he was wrong. He jumped to conclusions. He threw Carlos under the bus. But, look at all of the upvotes he got for saying that.

 
 

Jugdish's picture

I saw the upvotes and I was a little disappointed with that, but I believe what Andy was trying to do was take up for Urban. Carlos was found guilty before the trial.

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

1stYrBuckIClub's picture

I was more than disappointed that someone would throw a Buckeye under the bus like that. With all of the media points yesterday, I can see how he would jump to conclusions (picture of game mat excluded). But around 2 pm yesterday media reports (I was listening to 97.1 the fan) were that Carlos intentionally knocked a girl unconscious, and she stayed as such for over five minutes, needing a CT scan, etc. What journalistic integrity is required these days? If a guy that's only 21-22 (not sure of his actual age) can get crucified on ESPN and all other media outlets without any charges or proof, where are we today? How much will it be reported 'Carlos Hyde exonerated?' A young man's life nearly ruined and all for sensationalism? I will be the first one to cheer him, and buy a Carlos Hyde jersey and wear it out of spite for this stupidity.

USMC11917's picture

It really doesn't matter now but that is something I was trying to get everyone to prepared for yesterday. I was leaning toward believing the lie on Carlos but was holding back judgment until the facts were gathered. I did the same with Klein last year. You would think that fans across the nation would learn a lesson if not after the first time then maybe the second? Those upvotes are disturbing. Check the comments in Brewsters post titled "Our reactions".

otrain2416's picture

Hyde be like these girls feeding me motivation to run harder this season

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

This should Carlos's theme this season for all the haters and Big Ten defenses...

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

buckeyedude's picture

THAT, Arizona, is f*$&ng PRICELESS!
If ever there was a shirt to be made and sold, it's this one!

 
 

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

I like how the bullet holster is already Scarlet colors. Just make his hat and pants Gray and we're good to go! It's funny, I have several Mexican American friends here in AZ, that get a kick out of the Ohio State player nicknamed "El Guapo". I just might have to make this into a shirt. I think it costs like $50. It'd be worth every penny.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

RedStorm45's picture

Here's the funny thing, the first tweet we had came from @parsonskeegan saying Hyde was about to get arrested.  Of course someone asked him later if it was a punch, a shove, etc.  and he said he didn't see it, just heard about it.  So someone somewhere started an awful rumor and everyone apparently "saw it" and knew this girl's father was a cop.  Twitter is not good for factual information.  Case in point.

captain obvious's picture

That's the danger of social media no twitter probably no suspension.
Even though Hyde's innocent it will affect him draft time.
 

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

RedStorm45's picture

Eh, if the video becomes public and is as described, I don't think this hurts him.  Could potentially file a defamation suit if he wanted to.

thowen79's picture

Yeah it will affect him draft time, it will make him more appealing. A young man gets hit by a woman in a bar at 2am and decides the best thing to do is walk away and leave the situation. Why would that be a negative thing?

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Awesome...that is a big relief.  I'm just glad that Carlos didn't assault a woman.  The other stuff will all work out.
 

Class of 2010.

Jugdish's picture

To all you creative 11W members who can design T-shirts. I believe someone already posted that we need one for El Guapo which seems like a great idea. I would also like to see one for the Piranhas. A mean fish in Buckeye Gear. I would try, but I have trouble even making stick figures. Thanks.

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13THandSummit's picture

Had the OSU v Purdue game saved on my DVR for a couple days and all the bads news kept me from watching it. I think I'll put that on now. Hells yes.

mh277907's picture

Righteous 

buckeyebobcat

dumpus's picture

not quite sure why we're congratulating el guapo for doing something that he's supposed to be doing (ie: not punching chicks in the face and getting arrested for it), but i'll go with it.  chris rock  had a point.  

Furious George 27's picture

I would say more people are excited that the haters were so quick to condemn and were wrong.... The report was always sketchy with how it came out I think most fans actually read the articles and were waiting to find out what really happened.

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

Bluke221's picture

Just because something is what you're supposed to do doesn't mean that it's always easy. Getting hit in the head/face tends to trigger a person's fight or flight mechanism and Carlos was able to keep it reeled in it looks like. Some athletes cough*Pacman*cough, could learn a thing from Carlos.

Our honor defend we will fight to the end for Ohio..

Jugdish's picture

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

FitzBuck's picture

Takes a real man to take one in the head and walk away. On behalf of all buckeyes thank you for doing the right thing and handling a tuff situation by letting the facts come out. Now take that aggression and truck every LB that comes near you EL Guapo.

Fitzbuck

Toledo - Ohio's right armpit 

"A troll by any other name is still a troll". 

 

JoeinCbus's picture

Regrettably, the outcry against the woman who threw the punch will be non-existent. 

Nutbuck1959's picture

There are a lot of OSU/ Urban Meyer haters out there. Florida fans posting maybe??? Their weak excuses for the lack of what they want in a team are really beginning to get tiresome. Muschamp not the coach they thought.

J.Mo's picture

Hopefully Hyde can sue her for defamation of character and make the b**** pay. Crying wolf is not cool at all and when you're claiming this against someone else who's career could be ruinned, you need to pay for it!

Olemissbuckeye's picture

I wonder what Hyde said that would make a woman throw a punch? Well, besides the one word that makes 99% of women lose it and may be legal justification for throwing a punch in certain jurisdictions. If only there was some commentator who is an attorney to confirm this? Oh, now I remember, there's that one guy who constantly reminds everyone he is an attorney in everthing he has ever written.

/staresatClayTravis
//cricketschirping

cplunk's picture

I'm not an attorney, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
The one word that justifies assault is "obsequious". That's why you never hear it at bars.

Jonnferrell's picture

Woody be praised!

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

OSUStu's picture

Let me preface my comment by saying that I do not intend to sound morally superior when I write it.  However, I specifically resisted passing judgment or commenting on this situation when so few facts were known about the incident.  I was disappointed to see so many people on this site, which is so often populated by level-headed posters, ready to condemn Hyde.
I know we have all recently been let down by some of the leaders on this team.  I felt that sting as much as anyone.  But I would really like to think we can still give our guys a little more credit and have a little more faith in them.  

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I'm only half-serious about this, but one of the more worrisome trends that I saw on here was people actually making the fallacious argument, without any hint of sarcasm, that "where there is smoke, there is fire." Come on fellow Buckeye fans, if we're going to jump to conclusions, at least let's not use cliches to do so.

CALPOPPY's picture

Yeah, one bad apple can ruin the whole bunch.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

CALPOPPY's picture

But don't worry Fido, life gave Hyde lemons, and I think he's gonna make some lemonade from the experience.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

Dread's picture

So is he reinstated?

One Bad Buckeye's picture

I feel really bad for the first defender Hyde happens upon in 39 days.  

"I'm One Bad Buckeye, and I approve this message."

buckeyedude's picture

What about Coach Drayton? The dude has a family, I think(I saw a GIF recently where he got TRUCKED by El Guapo).

 
 

Crimson's picture

I think that was from before last season, the ESPN special on tOSU.

buckeyedude's picture

It still happened. I saw it. And that was before El Guapo got pissed off.

 
 

buckeyedude's picture

I love how Urban is laughing at with Coach Drayton. Carlos puts his arm around Drayton, as if to say, "sorry I'm such a beast. Didn't mean to embarrass ya."

 
 

mh277907's picture

Anyone know or heard of when an official statement from OSU or CPD will be?

buckeyebobcat

GeorgiaBuckeye2114's picture

I'm thankful that we all kept it classy here and weren't too quick to throw Hyde under the bus. It shows how strong Buckeye nation is. Love me some EL GUAPO!!!!! Go Bucks! Fuck scUM and Clay Travis.

Ekes42's picture

I'm late to the party but this seems like a pretty good way to end an otherwise boring Tuesday!!

SouthernSailor's picture

One of the most BASIC and FUNDAMENTAL tenants of the American legal system is that the accused are innocent UNTIL proven guilty. I feel ashamed for the media, and for myself for immediately believing them.
 
We should absolutely look at any other case like this in the future with a more disciplined eye.

Sean N's picture

Not to be a downer (and this does sound like a positive development), but I don't think we should be posting celebration GIFs until he is reinstated to the team by Coach Meyer. I assume he talked with coach yesterday morning and Urban heard enough to suspend him indefinitely.
On a somewhat related topic, am I the only one really confused by the pattern of discipline here?
Carlos Hyde - SUSPECTED of assault at a bar - suspended indefinitely
Bradley Roby - CHARGED with assault at a bar - left home from media day
Marcus Baugh - underage drinking/fake id - one game suspension
Tim Gardner - underage drinking/running from police - kicked off team
They're certainly keeping us guessing.

FROMTHE18's picture

hyde was suspected of hitting a woman, roby charged with hitting a bouncer (usually big strong dude, linebacker)...circumstances were also different...meyer did the right thing

wmbuckeye557's picture

Either the CPD has gotten a lot tougher on under age drinking or these guys are just acting out.   I can't remember anyone getting hemmed up for it. They must be acting like fools!

BuckeyeLawyer's picture

I thought Roby was charged for "pushing" a bouncer.  That probably explains his lesser punishment.

rekrul's picture

Assuming it was a push, whatever he did it was the the chest of the "Victim", who felt pain.  Better get the "Victim" some nail clippers for any future hang nails that may occur from any paperwork he has to fill out for this...
To me this sounds like if it were any local average joe the club/bouncer would not have charged/called crap.

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

bedheadjc's picture

I am certain Roby will be facing some game time off if he is convicted of assault in whatever degree. Had Hyde been charged and convicted I bet he would have been booted.

zbd's picture

He probably told her she had nappy hair and smelled like a fish market.

BeijingBucks's picture

Maybe it was the alcohol talking... What you think is happening is not always the case when inebriated. Hate to think badly about this girl and she didn't press charges in the end but, whatever he may have said she struck him, misconstrued the facts, and nearly set up a career ending, title-hopes-smashing accusation fully bypassing even a Zimmerman Jury.
Not cool man.  NOT cool.

buckeyedude's picture

Not sure exactly what you mean by "fully bypassing even a Zimmerman Jury."
The jurors in the Zimmerman trial were picked and approved by both the prosecution and defense. But I digress. (don't explain, we'll both get in trouble).

 
 

buckz4evr's picture

I hate to speculate but in his defense,  he may have simply rejected her numerous advances and she didn't take it lightly.  Some people are just nuts and then you give them booze or drugs and you got yourself a walking time bomb.  I am very proud of the fact he walked away after being assaulted.  Most men wouldn't have done that.  They may not have hit her, but at minimum, words would have followed.  My personal rule on drinking is this -- In every case of beer, there is at least 1 stupid beer.  When someone around me gets it, I get out of there.  Something bad is about to happen. 

buckeyemitchell's picture
Buckeye Chuck's picture

Clay Travis's passive-aggressive reference to today's Hyde news is the epitome of spineless weaselry. Must be nice, to be able to troll as one's fulltime job.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Maestro's picture

Yes, guy is about as mature my 3rd grader.

vacuuming sucks

faux_maestro's picture

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

BuckeyeW's picture

Fuck him. That is all. 

CCatanzaro's picture

Clay Travis ‏@ClayTravisBGID 2h
O-H-I-O RT @Brand0n_James1: please put a gun in your mouth, and pull the trigger. The world will be a better place!
I don't know how to imbed a tweet, but this asshole?!

Dairy-fed intellect and pure, unhinged sass.

 

BuckeyeW's picture

Yeah, that's no good. The problem with Clay Travis is he's an expert troll. He writes horse shit, antagonizes fans, and then points the finger back at them when they respond in a way he knows he's provoking. You can't win against that kind of mentality. 

DefendYoungstown's picture

So if this is true, when will "she" be charged with assault? I know he's not pressing charges but the CPD should cite her with something based on video evidence. 

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

Maestro's picture

I hope Carlos can sleep well tonight, probably for the first time in a few days.  Sleep tight El Guapo.

vacuuming sucks

Cdrone92's picture

F*** the press. Including and especially ESPN. That's all.
 
Oh, and Bucks. Bucks, Bucks, Bucks.

CincyOSU's picture

You do realize that ESPN first reported news of the video yesterday?

Crimson's picture

No.  That is patently false.

THE_JUICE's picture

My only current complaint with ESPN is that as of 12:09 am Eastern time, they still haven't broken the story of the video showing that Hyde did not hit the woman.
They do, however, have the "Hyde suspended indefinitely" headline active.
By comparison, the story about the State of Florida dropping charges on Antonio Morrison broke at roughly the same time as the story about the video regarding Carlos Hyde.  That's on the front page of ESPN...

Hovenaut's picture

F*** the trolls, and those forgoing responsible journalism in favor of social media.

Fixed that for you.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

jfunk's picture

Much like Fox Mulder, I want to believe that the worst is over and El Guapo will be reinstated shortly but I just have this gut feeling this thing is going to drag out a while longer. I'm not saying I think El Guapo is guilty of anything, I just think the drama is going to play out for a while longer. I really hope I'm wrong.

Scotch: It may be too early to drink it, yes; but people it is never to early to think about it.

The Buck Guy's picture

I am confused about Meyer's recent disciplinary actions. Gardner was dismissed from the team for the same thing Baugh did (but Baugh got a slap on the wrist); Roby was arrested and charged with assault for attacking a bouncer after trying to fight his way back into a bar he was thrown out of, but discipline is not yet determined (but Hyde was dismissed indefinitely for being a person of interest in an assault case). Meyer, you need to get it together man. Discipline as well as commendations must be made even handedly after applying sound judgment. I question both the even handedness and the judgment parts of that here.
 

~ The Buck Guy
Go Bucks!!!!

Crimson's picture

Hyde was reported to have punched a woman (off the team, reinstated if untrue)
Roby pushed a bouncer, or something (first offense, punishment TBD)
Gardner has being in the doghouse since he got to Columbus (final straw, not first offense)
Baugh underage drinking (first offense)
This seems fine to me.  Which part do you have a problem with without full knowledge of any of these situations?

The Buck Guy's picture

As you say, we do lack full knowledge of any of these situations. Since two of these players have had finalized disciplinary measures already (Gardner and Baugh), the Athletics Communications Department should have released details about them instead of vague generalities. Of course they cannot discuss on-going situations such as Roby and Hyde, but I am certain that their public cases will be well covered as they are dealt with in the courts. But as they stand now, Baugh's punishment for fraud (fake ID), substance abuse (alcohol), and illegal possession of controlled substance (alcohol) are crimes that deserve serious discipline. Gardner's offense was reported as an obstruction charge, anything other than that is entirely unknown, and yet he received the ultimate punishment from the program.  Seems fairly evident that the two have received markedly different standards of discipline.

~ The Buck Guy
Go Bucks!!!!

DbuckiMcG's picture

Sounds like you have been following these issues closely (that was sarcasm). Judge after everything has happened, unless you know something no one else does shut up and wait to see what really happened. IE I hope video evidence makes you look as ill informed and negative as you are trying to be. Part of being a fan is dealing with the lumps and clearly you are incapable of that. Until you can handle that...... put a sock in it and hold your judgments. That was as nice as I could say it.

The Buck Guy's picture

DBUCKIMCG:
How dare you! Who do you think you are to disrespect me and tell me to shut up and "put a sock in it"?
This board is INTENDED as a forum for posting our thoughts about the Buckeyes. My thoughts, whether you agree with them or not, are as I've posted.  I am a critcal thinker and educator who relies on empirical evidence to inform my decisions; so never expect that I will march in lockstep with bandwagoneers or sycophants such as yourself.  [Note, I come to that impression of you from the ad hominem basis of your response.] Since you cannot refute my points factually I suggest that you apologize and refrain from attacking me for my reasoned opinion. 
As for the facts, no, none of us know them entirely, relying instead upon rumors and conjecture from media reports and the blogosphere.  Hence, my questions about the seemingly inequitable punishments.
The Buckeyes do have an information service department (Communications). I would suggest that when Meyer drops a player or pull a scholarship from a recruit that he should collaborate with Dan Wallenberg and Jerry Emig to provide a media release with details. I am sure that I am not the only Alumn who has questions about all of this. And whether you are willing to acknowledge the obvious differences in the disciplinary measures meted out in these four instances or not, any objective person certainly sees them.
That was as nice as I could say it.

~ The Buck Guy
Go Bucks!!!!

FindlayBuck's picture

Without knowing anything of these situations aside from hearsay, it's tough to say that these are not correct punishments for each individual instance. Maybe rumors are true and Gardner has been in the dog house since arriving, which would justify being sent home. Marcus Baugh was removed from the team, and I think lost his summer scholarship, hardly a slap on the wrist. Urban has a very clear rule about respecting women, which is why Hyde was suspended indefinitely right away. When cleared, he'll be back. Meyer will not tolerate disrespect to women in any way.

Crimson's picture

I suppose I should hedge this with an "if these latest reports are true," so insert that if you will.  I'm happy that Hyde didn't do anything that stupid, that he isn't the terrible person he was made out to be yesterday.  With nothing else changing because of it, I'm glad for that.  Our team being better with him is a bonus though.

James F's picture

Here's the reaction to the news in Ann Arbor.
 

Poison nuts's picture

Is that a doody poop in the drawers?

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

James F's picture

I believe it is.

rekrul's picture

Looks like Hoke is teaching others at UM to hashtag as well.  #Mishitganprobs

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Little late to this party (been at UF all day with my daughter).
Cannot tell you how happy I am. Not just because it appears Carlos will be exonerated, but because of his conduct during the incident.
Now, I think I am going to blow up Clay Trolvis's twitter until my fingers bleed.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Phutatorius's picture

After further review, the ruling on the field is OVERTURNED.  There is NO FOUL on the play.  FIRST DOWN!

Hovenaut's picture

No, that's a touchdown.

Carlos crossed the line (which we want him to do on the field...many, many times).

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

hit_the_couch's picture

Bitches is crazy, especially round my way.
 
Free El Guapo!!!

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Hockey Buck's picture

Enough is enough. If you want someone to pay for what happened, then pay they should. Bring charges for assault and filing a false police report on the girl involved. Add to it the undue stress she caused me throw the book at her. Great job El Guapo for being a Buckeye.

Crimson's picture

Add to it the undue stress she caused me throw the book at her.

I laughed.  I'm sure many feel the same way.

RedStorm45's picture

Owe a huge apology to El Guapo.  Based on the Dispatch (prematurely) reporting he was dismissed, I took it as a sign of guilt that he either told Urban he did this or Coach Meyer had it confirmed.  Of course, we now know he wasn't dismissed.  And it looks like he will be exonerated in this case.

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

Let me present an entirely different angle to all of this...
First of all, I refrained from making any comment at all concerning Hyde through this mini-saga, and only said that Jordan Hall's "staying in my lane" statement was simply a guy staying out of the situation, and was a wise choice.
I just didn't see where anything I had to say as conjecture would add anything at all to the collective conversation...so I read...and fretted...and read some more.
I come home tonight and see this wonderful news (or at least exponentially less bad than when I left this morning!) and am overjoyed!  I hate Spongebob but I picture him saying: "Happy happy, joy, joy!"
And then it hit me.
This situation is going to result in a huge positive push on the recruiting front.  Kids love to come to Ohio State for all the right and good reasons...we know what those are.
But guess what?  A psychological impact (a positive push) will begin with the top recruits because of the fact that "we" (yes, I know it was Hyde specifically, but "we" by extension) were so wronged...maligned...ridiculed and mocked by haters...tweets and articles out condemning Coach Meyer, the OSU culture, blah, blah, blah.  Well, now...we don't need the apologies of the turd spickets...from those in the media or those in the coaching ranks as well. 
The best recruits in the nation still left on the board will be leaning more and more toward Ohio State than ever before, simply to get in on a little of that payback...the "us against the world" motivation and anger that will drive this team to a national championship.
Buckeye Nation: Prepare for an eye-popping finish to the recruiting effort!
 

Knarcisi's picture

A bit overanalyzed, don't you tink?

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

I hate Spongebob but I picture him saying: "Happy happy, joy, joy!"

I picture Ren And Stimpy.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

(slaps head)
Yeah, meant Ren and Stimpy...kid was always watching Spongebob, and he somehow surfaced in my mind...good catch!
And yeah, probably over-analyzed...but ya know what...felt real fine!!

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Not successful at embedding that tweet...

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

GoBucksOSU's picture

I'm so happy right now!

Knarcisi's picture

Hate to say it, but lesson is, stay out of bars past midnight.  Nothing good happens and these players have a target on their backs. 

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

So Clay, I wonder what currency Urban used to pay the video elves to change all those pixels around?

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

ColerainBuckeye33's picture

Everyone was all doom and gloom last night and I said Im going to roll with Carlos on this one and lookie what we have here.Everyone backtracking all of their earlier posts and now jumping on team Carlos where they should have been from the get go.Great day to be a BUCKEYE and everything will work itself out for our Title run. GO BUCKS!

A wise man once said "success is not final and failure is not fatal"

hit_the_couch's picture

I said he was innocent from day one and was repeatedly called a blind homer. I can't believe people.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

ATT2121's picture

Get home from work to find this out! I was very angry about the whole situation yesterday and I prayed for the truth to come out. Whatever it might be. After overreacting yesterday, I'm going to let this sink in till morning. 

 
 

"It all goes so fast, and character makes the difference when it's close."
Jesse Owens
 

ATT2121's picture

Just wanted to add that I hope the old saying is true. A lie is half way around the world before truth gets out of bed.

 
 

"It all goes so fast, and character makes the difference when it's close."
Jesse Owens
 

BME_Buckeye's picture

And that's a Buckeyes 1st down!
Great to hear that charges won't be filed after the video shows a different story. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Stinson's picture

"Carlos Hyde the ball carrier. 

17 yard gain to the 36 yard line.

FIRST down OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhio State!"

Give me some Bob Kennedy!

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

Stinson's picture

Seriously though, you are a class act, 11W. Excellent and honest journalism through this whole thing. This is only a recent example. No need to even look for another OSU sports media outlet. Thank you for your services.

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

MassiveAttack's picture

Well stated, and totally true.  Although I do read the B1G blog on ESPN, and Stewart Mandel's Inside College Football on SI for the mailbags.

nickma71's picture

For his benefit not mine or the teams, I hope this is true.

ejoceans's picture

Soooo glad to hear this news!! At first I was like...dang man, not again! Its like things were going too good and something bad had to happen. UFM needs to set the curfew a little early this year! Boy, I hope all this new news is true and Guapo is cleared of it all. Time to BEAT SOME ASS!!!!

Lets do this Brutus

TWCBUCKEYE's picture


 

"Nothing cleanses your soul like getting the [Mark May] kicked out of you."

Frankly Scarlet's picture

I don't know what this is, but it's absurdly funny.

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

cinserious's picture

Its a Got Milk? commercial. Does a groin good.

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

raki's picture

I am going the same dance moves over here.......Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

Buckeye1036's picture

Because he's the hero Ohio State deserves, but not the one it needs right now.  So we'll hunt him.  Because he can take it.  Because he's not our hero.  He's a silent guardian.  A watchful protector. The El Guapo.

whobdis's picture

This whole thing smells. She obviously targeted Hyde..and tried to provoke him. When he would have no part of it she STILL went to the police. She could have simply targeted another player once Hyde refused to cooperate. Now she's out of the country? Maybe Hoke sent her down.
 

Larryp713's picture

I just found this report from NBC 4i. http://www.nbc4i.com/story/22918458/sources-surveillance-video-shows-hyde-interacting-with-alleged-assault-victim
They quote two sources who saw the tape, and their analysis is that there was interaction between Hyde and the woman with some physical contact, and then moments later Hyde leaving the bar while the woman is holding her head and is upset. That could correlate to the Yahoo story, or be very different depending on interpretation.
I am really annoyed that a young man's life is turned upside down and is left hanging in purgatory while an accuser is out of the country, on vacation, and the justice system does not feel at all compelled to offer some definitive statement on what is going on. I know they want to get it right, not make any mistakes, but this is horribly unfair to Carlos.

Respectfully,

Larryp713

cinserious's picture

Anybody got footage of Hyde leveling that return man last year? I want to see some FOOTBALL DAMMIT!

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"