Ohio State Running Back Carlos Hyde Named as Person of Interest in Columbus Police Report

By Jason Priestas on July 22, 2013 at 9:36a
216 Comments
Carlos Hyde was named in a police report as a suspect in an assault.

Ohio State running back Carlos Hyde was named as a person of interest in a police report filed Saturday afternoon with the Columbus Police Department.

The incident took place just before 2 a.m. Saturday morning at Sugar Bar 2 on Front Street in Columbus' Brewery District. The report, filed by officer Zachary Rosen, is coded a 254 – Assault with the following narrative:

Victim stated on listed date and time at the listed location she was assaulted by the described suspect. Victim stated she does not know the suspect but stated she could identify him.

Key word there being she.

Carlos Hyde named as a person of interest

No arrest has been made and charges have not been filed at this time.

An all-hands team meeting was held at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center this morning and an Ohio State football spokesman indicated he will have something later today on a situation involving an unnamed player.

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Baroclinicity's picture

Hope this is all just mistaken identity...

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Rapping Bum's picture

Nice knowing you, El Guapo.
edit: Why all the downvotes?  He will probably be kicked off the team.

Help is on the way.

captain obvious's picture

The orginal report said the girl was elbowed. This one states she didnt know the person who did it.
To me that sounds like an accident unless Hyde has been training Muy Thai to attack women he doesnt know with elbow strikes.

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

RedStorm45's picture

The "elbow" report at O was not Carlos.

Brutus's picture

It's an emotional reaction because of this idea that "we don't know everything yet. Let this play out in the legal system before we judge the guy." While I can appreciate this stance, let's be realistic.  Sadly, this isn't the first time something like this has happened.  Whenever it does, we always say the same thing and cling to some hope that everything will magically resolve itself. But I can't think of a single example where that has happened (the Storm Klein thing sort of resolved itself, but well after the fact). We are still lacking many facts, but when there is this much smoke, there is always fire. So right now, I share the same opinion as you. Nice knowing you El Guapo.  I hope he's able to sort out his legal issues, but I have no expectations of seeing him in a Buckeye uniform in the near future, and probably ever.

OSUs12-OH's picture

We'll see what shakes loose.  That may be why you're getting flamed for your comment.  If he's kicked off, then give the nice knowing you.  Remember Storm Klein's situation????  Let's wait and see before making the "Nice to know you" stuff.  I won't DV (even though it's probably worthy of one).  

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

AndyVance's picture

This is bad beats all the way around, but kudos to 11W for being the first outlet to report something actually based on evidence rather than rumor and conjecture.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Not that I take any kudos away from 11W, but the person to originally sound the alarm on all of this is over at men of scarlet and gray.  I think he deserves more kudos for the way he handled it.
Here's his story: 
http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2013/07/22/accusations-against-carlos-...

AndyVance's picture

I read their post earlier - while I appreciate the transparency (and as a blogger myself, I think the poster walked a fairly tight line, to his credit), I still think 11W gets the brass ring for waiting to comment until they had solid facts, and because it appears our Kyle was thus far the only reporter on the beat to actually get a hand on the actual police report.

OSUs12-OH's picture

Most definitely...11W didn't put out the "rumor" until it wasn't one........Evidence is much more worthy of acknowledgement than a rumor on twitter or so called sources.  
I wasn't impressed with the early word last night because there was NO real proof and others can DV all you want.  11W is and always will be the best free OSU website there is...PERIOD! They stay classy and always wait till real sources are stating the facts.  

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

SYRmotsag's picture

Thank You very much

jfunk's picture

I came in here to say this. I know everyone on the board had their panties in a bunch last night because none of the staff  had addressed the growing smoke cloud forming around one of our players. I appreciate the integrity 11W showed in waiting until they had facts before reporting on an incident that could potentially have serious negative consequences on the life of a young man.

And to respond to someone elses reply, yes other websites were reporting the rumors that something happened but 11W was the first to my knowledge to actually report something based on hard facts.

Scotch: It may be too early to drink it, yes; but people it is never to early to think about it.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Again, I put the link up so you could see for yourself what was happening behind the scenes.  I understand that facts are facts, but I put the link so you could see for yourself what actually happened behind the scenes and how it wasn't exactly a rumor that was being reported.  

SYRmotsag's picture

Myself and my editor did our best to do the right thing. We did the best we could with what we had. The staff here at 11W and Ozone were great in helping us and not stealing the info we had. Kudos to them for how they are handling this big time....

RedStorm45's picture

^I like to hear this, rather than OSU sites trying to tear each other down.  Sometimes 11W is the first to break news, sometimes it's the O-Zone...either way, it seems all these sites are building a good following and for the most part everyone appears to be reporting/writing/etc with respect for the other sites.

SYRmotsag's picture

We have always respected and appreciated 11W... I could name the blogs/sites I dont if you wany :) just kidding

jfunk's picture

Please don't misconstrue my earlier statement as a slam against your article. You took the right approach and did a very good job of reporting the facts as you had them. I especially applaud you keeping the alleged victim's name private. The point I was trying to make earlier was that I appreciate Jason and the staff sitting on this until there was some concrete evidence out there. Again, taking nothing away from your work, but eyewitness accounts aren't always the most reliable source of information. It's much harder to argue with a police report.

Scotch: It may be too early to drink it, yes; but people it is never to early to think about it.

SYRmotsag's picture

I wasnt offended I understood what you were saying... We held off as long as we could and once others were confirming we posted. We searched for police reports for 48 hours with no luck. Still cant find them online and ha no way to get that paper copy in Houston :)... I credit 11W for getting that hard paper proof for sure.

Boomcat's picture

And the big gray box of misery ensues......

SilverBulletNYC's picture

Awesome. No excuses if this is true...hopefully no one posts any "well she had it coming" crap.

The South will NOT rise again!

Unky Buck's picture

Well, person of interest still leaves the possibility of innocence. Hopefully things can be sorted out here in the near future and, either way, we can get some closure to this situation.

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Oyster's picture

With the bad publicity surrounding the Hernandez case, expect to see this dealt with in the harshest of manners.  Whether that is right or wrong, that will be a driving force behind the punishment.

Unky Buck's picture

Yeah, if he indeed did this, I wouldn't expect anything but the harshest punishment given all the scrutiny that Meyer has gotten for his "inmates running the asylum" mantra at Florida.
I'm a wait for all of the facts kind of person, but it doesn't look good for El Guapo by any means. We'll see what happens in the coming days.

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Jugdish's picture

I don't think the punishment should be the harshest but one that fits the crime. This will be determined in the justice system. For now, Carlos needs to be kicked off the team and let him handle the situation. We are a country of laws and both sides get to tell their side of the story. I am sure there are plenty of witnesses to get this incident resolved. Urban has nothing else to prove about his discipline policy. It has always been fair and strict.

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

Unky Buck's picture

I mean the harshest punishment that Meyer can hand down and that's kicking him off the team. Meyer can't do more than that and I didn't mean it to sound like it would be anything more than that. The judicial system, if it gets that far, will take care of it the way they seem fit. Again, we'll see what happens over the next few days (weeks, months, etc).

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Jugdish's picture

I should have known what you meant Unky. Your statements have always been reasonable. Thanks for replying.

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

BME_Buckeye's picture

It has always been fair and strict.

Is this based on his current tenure at Ohio State or past one at Florida? I agree he's been ok during his time here but at UF, not so much. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Bucks's picture

This is terrible news. Also, going to make this clear on the start of this sad damn story. Keep it civil with differing opinions/anger/emotions. I have no problem with any contrasting thought here but attacks against other posters won't fly.

slicksickle's picture

These rumors always have some truth to them.

cdubs's picture

Can't help but notice all the internet detectives circulated the wrong police report prior to this.

iBuckeye's picture

It makes me utterly sick to see someone with all the talent in the world throw it all away. Stupid. (if true of course)

FROMTHE18's picture

IMO...the team has a big meeting the day after this surfaces, there is going to be a statement about an unnamed player (presumably Carlos Hyde), he hasn't been on twitter over the past day (which is strange considering the frequency at which he usually posts), no one has denied these rumors that he was involved in the assault, and there have been reports that the player has been dealt with already (i.e. removed from the team)...I think we can all read the writing on the wall here and, although I am hopeful that all of this is just coincidental, it seems as though Mr. Rod Smith is finally going to be Ohio State's starting running back

Boomcat's picture

I've made the decision to not listen to all those "sources" which are just a bunch of idiots on Twitter. Those people are saying all kinds of outlandish stuff that may or may not be true. So I'm hanging onto hope until 11W or somebody reputable reports anything.

TheAFBuckeye's picture

It does seem like a lot of info out there and all corresponding not to be true though doesn't it... How unfortunate. Only time will. We have a lot of talent at RB so hopefully they all step up.  Carlos did look pretty pretty good at the end of the season though.

Let's Go BUCKEYES!!!!!

gwright78's picture

If this is true, the stupidity evidenced by Carlos Hyde is almost beyond belief. The biggest reason for my sadness is that he was about to be a four-year player who's really grown on me, as he was never a flashy guy on the field. As a player, he appeared to be everything you'd want out of a Buckeye.

cplunk's picture

Oh, El Guapo.
i will say this, though. In my many decades I've seen over and over that charged doesn't necessarily mean guilty. Could be mistaken identity, could be exaggerated or made-up circumstances, could be completely true. We really don't know.
i would urge people to wait until the facts have come out before throwing Hyde under the bus. All we know right now is he is being investigated. Investigated isn't arrested, arrested isn't charged, charged isn't convicted, and convicted doesn't even always mean guilty. 
There is a long time to go before we have enough facts to judge Carlos.
In the meantime, Urbs has to do what he has to do. In the current football environment, with the recent attacks on Urbs, and with Urbs emphasis on rules since coming to OSU, I expect we'll see El Guapo off the team while the justice system plays out its role.
 

BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

"Current football environment" and "recent attacks on Urbz" have nothing to do with integrity.  Urban should handle this judiciously and swiftly in any case. 

Matt

cplunk's picture

One could argue that integrity would be waiting for the justice system to determine actual guilt before acting. My point was just that the current environment doesn't allow for that.

BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

We are on the same page. That's what I meant by judiciously. 

Matt

AeroBuckeye2001's picture

I don't know the protocol for police, but in almost every case of assault (especially in domestic violence cases) that I've heard of, at least one person has been arrested on the spot. This investigation is peculiar.
That being said, looks like Carlos wasn't at the team meeting this morning. 

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Fugelere's picture

I believe that may be because Ohio has a mandatory arrest law on the books for domestic violence.  
If the police are seeking him as a person of interest there is reason to believe he was not on scene and so couldn't be arrested on the spot. That also tells us that he has not given a statement to police yet.  
 

captain obvious's picture

It seems if he wasnt on the scene he would be easy to find considering who he is.
I'm surprised an arrest wasnt made yesterday.
Leads me to believe there is more to this story.

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

Fugelere's picture

No doubt.  The police will attempt get his side of the story as well.  I'd also like to stress that person of interest is not the same as suspect however in either case it is not looking good for Mr Hyde.

buckguy10's picture

Aaron Hernandez wasn't arrested for a week and a half. He was just listed as a "person of interest" relating to the case and we all know how that turned out. 
In no way am I comparing the two, just pointing out that they don't always arrest the person as soon as possible.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

It's not domestic violence unless there is a relationship between the two.

It sounds like a simple battery, IF there was a crime committed. I am personally a wait and see kind of person.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Frankly Scarlet's picture

Maybe he was simply mimicking Denard's spooning gesture and accidently elbowed the gal by mistake?
 
Probably not...
 
 

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

kcbrez's picture

Probably NOT the time for Michigan jokes.

RunEddieRun1983's picture

Wow, IF this is true, and IF this is a crime he commited, just how unreal is it that a kid with that much ability would throw it all down the drain over something like this?  He had a first round NFL draft ticket out there waiting for him he just had to go get it, and instead he would just throw it in the garbage. 
All I can do is hope this is some kind of mistake.

I don't always downvote, but I do always downvote a Michigan fan trolling the Buckeye boards.

BME_Buckeye's picture

As with this comment and now the first why do people keep hoping its mistaken identity? Its not. Hyde is responsible and has put himself in this situation. I know people are saying wait until the courts play it out but given he's a suspect of interest he is. Time to face the facts of reality that this is not a mistake. Hyde is off the team, and in trouble. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Michael's picture

Supposedly it's been confirmed that Carlos Hyde was not at the team meeting this morning.

IBleedSandG's picture

Well, crap. There has to be a reason why he wasn't there. Hoping for the best... Thank God we are deep at RB.

We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from O-HI-O!

BME_Buckeye's picture

So much for character and facing the team. Says a lot about a player that would skip out on a team meeting, not face his teammates for letting them all down. Thanks for sharing this. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

steensn's picture

Wow, that was a bit presumptuous of a statement. Because you know that he is allowed to be there?

acBuckeye's picture

I'm pretty sure the coaches probably didn't allow him to be at the meeting b/c they wanted to know more info about the possible charges. Let's get the facts straight before making a statement like that next time....... how very Matt Hayes of you.

Frankly Scarlet's picture

Oakland will still draft him in the first round.
 
Next man up!

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

James F's picture

I would actually put my $$$ on the Bengals since Al Davis is gone.

TheAFBuckeye's picture

Happened before 2am but not reported for 12 hours. How do they have such an exact time for when it happened, down to the second. Just the way the report is filed or substantial evidence... Video?

Let's Go BUCKEYES!!!!!

Unky Buck's picture

I could be reading it incorrectly, so someone correct me if I am, but the way I'm taking the report is that an officer was indeed there and he began the report at that time, but the report was not finalized until nearly 2 PM Sunday afternoon.

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Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

That's a good point, though you can never be certain with "the system." I'm more wondering about the story of the cause. He wanted her to dance, she said no, so he punched her and ran away? Excuse my language but that's a pussy thing to do, if true. Given that, I find it hard to believe these facts are accurate for El Guapo; he never came off as a guy to 1) hit a woman, 2) do it for her not wanting to dance, and 3) run from anything.. We'll see I guess

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

AllDay028's picture

If true, the assumption would be he was very intoxicated. Seen lots of people do lots of crazy things while drunk.

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

True, that's the one caveat I could think of to make it plausible, IMO. Still doesn't seem quite right, but then again none of us can be sure what goes through a kid's head at 2 am, in a bar/club on a weekend, and as a star athlete. 

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

txbucknut's picture

That's the part of the story that throws me off. I don't know the guy personally, but who punches a girl simply because she won't dance with him?? There is much more to this story, and with this circumstance, there were clearly plenty of witnesses that the police have or will hopefully interview and the entire story will come out-good or bad.

captain obvious's picture

The victim stated that on the listed date and time at the listed location that the listed Suspect struck her in the face with his elbow. The Victim stated that her nose began to bleed and she fell to the ground which caused her to twist her ankle. The Victim stated that she advised the bar staff of the incident but they did nothing to help her.

The "Elbow" to a woman he didnt know really confuses me.

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

salberico's picture

You're quoting the wrong report

Unky Buck's picture

@buckeye rocket sci
I took your dancing thing as you wondering if that was a possible cause behind it. Can you please clarify? Other posters on this thread are commenting on it as if it was something that happened. There was nothing in the report about it and obviously no one knows much else. A little clarification can go a long way to not starting some unsubstantiated rumor.

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captain obvious's picture

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

jfunk's picture

I don't know how a gif of Beaker could possibly get downvoted...

Scotch: It may be too early to drink it, yes; but people it is never to early to think about it.

Unky Buck's picture

We have some serial downvoters right now. That's all. Everyone should basically be prepared to get at least 1, if not multiple, downvotes for each post that is made. I can't explain why, but it just seems like one of those things with this news.
Edit: And you got a downvote from the time I clicked on the reply tab to the time I hit save...

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jfunk's picture

To quote Alfred Pennyworth: "Some people just want to watch the world burn".

Scotch: It may be too early to drink it, yes; but people it is never to early to think about it.

droessl's picture

I'll step up and admit I fat fingered the vote. 

BME_Buckeye's picture

Probably because some people are tired of the gifs and jokes by Capitan Obvious that are not needed. Its ok to make a joke from time to time but damn do they saturate and water down threads to the point where they derail the original train of thought. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

droessl's picture

Stupid hotlink cutting out.  Take 2! 

IBleedSandG's picture

Damn, El Guapo. Damn. Hopefully nothing serious comes of this.

We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from O-HI-O!

faux_maestro's picture

The only thing I can think to say right now: FUCK

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

captain obvious's picture

who downvotes an F bomb?
How about

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

faux_maestro's picture

Don't know who downvotes that. It's all I got right now, we don't need this right now with all of the shit that's being piled on by lazy d-bag's with an ax to grind against Urban. Let's all remember Urban's history (the real history not the Bianchi version), he kicked several knuckleheads off the team before spring ball last year when they did stupid shit. But hey, he enabled Hernandez hurrdurr.

Inní mér syngur vitleysingur

gobucks96's picture

A rough lesson will be taught on this.... Hope whoever it is learns from it, makes amends, and come out the other side a better person for it.
Also, hope the victim wasn't hurt..
 

UrbanCulture's picture

Keep refreshing 11w hoping beyond hope.

gobucks96's picture

At this point, refreshing might not be a good thing... Somebody quarantine this team stat! VONN BELL NOW?! WTF?

BME_Buckeye's picture

Not sure if you saw the link or story but here is one for you. Link
When it rains it pours. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Dayton Buckeye's picture

Good thing we have options at RB. I hope this is a mistake. He seemed very humble and gracious during interviews.

captain obvious's picture

The downvoter troll is abound.
Dayton's statement couldnt be more accurate to what I think most of us are thinking/hoping.
I'd rather hear drinking, drugs or even extra benefits than violence towards women.

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

bhardy22132's picture

saw this on tiger droppings just a bunch of he said she said IMO but thought I would share.
quote:
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I am just a secondary source (so don't kill me) but my friend was here when all of this went down at the O. According to him, this is all being blown out of proportion (again I am just a secondary source passing along what I heard). Said the girl was hammered and out of control. She kept bothering Carlos and he kept ignoring her. He finally turned around quickly to yell at her to go away and inadvertently hit her in the nose with his elbow as he did so.
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Edit. Just found it while scouring through some sites trying to see if anyone potentially had anything else.

awwwwwwop's picture

The police report says this happened at Sugar Bar, not the O.  Also, if you read the Men of the Scarlet and grey guy's info, he says the elbow incident has nothing to do with this.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

hit_the_couch's picture

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

On the police report at the top of the page

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

hit_the_couch's picture

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwop said "the men of scarlet and grey."

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

Sorry, thought you were referring to the location. MotSaG does specifically reference punching in the face, though. I guess that would rule out the elbow?
EDIT: Never mind, he cleared it up

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

awwwwwwop's picture

The Sugar Bar information is in the police report. The elbow information is in this comment http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/recruiting/2013/07/this-doesnt-sound...
my fault for not making it clear where i got the info.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

bhardy22132's picture

yeah I saw that report after posting that. Like I said that was alot of "I was told this" type of deal.

Boomcat's picture

Good to hear, pray that there is some truth to that.

IBleedSandG's picture

Damn you drunk chick, damn you!

We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from O-HI-O!

Larryp713's picture

As the owner of a tasteless sense of humor, I think this comment can be assumed to be a "too soon" joke.

Respectfully,

Larryp713

BME_Buckeye's picture

I have the same sense of humor but I think it crosses the line. To damn a drunk chick isn't exactly plausible. A woman can get smashed all she wants but its in a person best interest that doesn't know her to avoid her and prevent any possible situation from occurring. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

kcbrez's picture

Yeah, let's not damn the drunk chick AT ALL, unless this turns out to be a complete fabrication. Drunk or not, she's a victim.

Frankly Scarlet's picture

Who knows if this is legit or not, but I can certainly see something like that happening. 

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

captain obvious's picture

I am going to go ahead take this report as the truth

 

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

hit_the_couch's picture

Innocent!
 
All black people look alike according to certain movies.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

RBuck's picture

Ah man, I really hate this kind of shit.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

BTBuckeye's picture

I hope the "inadvertent elbow" story is true...if not, see you later Carlos.
Damn

gwright78's picture

So Carlos Hyde's kindergarten teacher has to go, amiright?

CC's picture

Why doesn't this report show up on the Columbus website?
http://www.columbuspolice.org/Reports/Search.aspx
Received the following:
No report found for report #: 130601551

hit_the_couch's picture

A bunch of drunk people in that crowded ass bar, who know what happened?
It's been scientifically proven that even sober people aren't completely sure of what they saw: bias, delusion and misconceptions always get in the way of the truth.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

BTBuckeye's picture

Fork Union Academy guidance counselor didn't see this coming?

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

.....awaiting comment from Douche Muschamp explaining why this is more embarrassing than a player getting arrested (x2) for barking at a police dog.

CincyOSU's picture

Really? Hitting a female is NOT more embarrassing?

Boomcat's picture

Does this really tell us anything new though? The only thing we now know is that Hyde actually is confirmed to have been in this mess. I don't think we should all jump off the deep end yet.

Denny's picture

welp dot com slash welp

Taquitos.

FROMTHE18's picture

This just adds fuel to the media fire that has been blazing for a month now about Meyer...football season needs to start now

Hovenaut's picture

Buckeye fan no matter what, this too shall pass.

"Success...it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Poison nuts's picture

Yes it will...but damn I am really, really starting to think Summer is a terrible thing!

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

House804's picture

I feel like this could easily be wrong place, wrong drunk chick.
Hyde is an absolute truck and one of the biggest reasons I am so pumped for this year.  I hope this goes away, but I doubt it.

We talkin' bout practice?!  Not the game I love...the game I die for.  Practice?!

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

New too the board so not quite sure how to put a tweet up here, but 5 minutes ago Brandon Castel tweeted: "Being told unnamed (as of now) OSU player has been suspended indefinitely, not removed from the team, pending outcome of this situation."
Here's the link to his twitter page. https://twitter.com/BCastOZone
-BUCKS15

BUCKS15 just posted this in the other thread, was only to be expected and is sounding a lot like the Storm Klein case

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

J.Mo's picture

I am a much bigger fan (or was a much bigger fan) of Carlos Hyde than I was of Storm Klein but Carlos deserves the same treatment as Storm Klein - off the team until proven innocent. 
Keep sending the message throughout the team that it doesn't matter if you're a Freshman or a Senior - this is serious and NOT ACCEPTABLE.

FROMTHE18's picture

agree J.MO. I now think meyer's stance on leting the legal process play out is probably better than an immediate boot (something I probably would be pushing for; which may be too harsh)

Ohio State Ombre's picture

im sorry, but i disagree with what you first said JMO. it is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. i know that doesnt happen like that much anymore, but that is how the law reads, correct? if i acuse you of something out of left field (not saying that is the case with guapo, just an example) then you are innocent until i can prove otherwise. it is not you are guilty of it until you can prove your innocence. That shouldnt change just because hyde is in the spotlight

CC's picture

You are (presumably) referring to the legal system.  OSU Football players are held to a higher standing than guilt or innocence in a court. 

Ohio State Ombre's picture

so anyone could blame them of anything and its their fault? i completely dont agree with that form of thinking. if they put themselves in bad situations thats one thing....but i wouldnt assume guilty until proven innocent.

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

I think he's referring to the fact that it is often the case to be guilty first in a scenario like this, not that it should be by law. Just like many rape/domestic violence cases, all the court usually has to go on is the word of the victim but still, more times than not, it is assumed the individual is guilty despite lack of solid evidence.

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

Ohio State Ombre's picture

i understand what he is saying. i am simply saying it is a terrible way to think about it

b_pbucksfans's picture

I agree with above posters about this incident. Carlos punches a girl in the face because she wouldn't dance with him and runs away? I find this really hard to believe. I played college ball and girls flocked to the star players. Why would he strike a girl when he probably had 10 more vying for his attention? This whole thing seems fishy to me....

otrain2416's picture

I'm guessing if anything close to the story reported by her happened he probably turned around fast or something and bumped into her. If she was bugging him all night and he was drinking a little he probably brushed it off and walked away. I'm hope its being blown out of proportion

b_pbucksfans's picture

That is my exact line of thinking right now Otrain. Sure hope we're right...

Unky Buck's picture

That comment was hypothetical (at least that's how I took it) but I can see how that could be misconstrued. He was merely asking what the story behind all of it was and threw that out there. Probably shouldn't have because it can come off as a rumor that can get twisted around even further.
I'm with you, though. I highly doubt that this scenario would've ever played out. When I was at OSU, I played cards on a regular basis with a handful of high profile players and went out to bars with them on numerous occasions...they don't need to work at getting women. 

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RedStorm45's picture

Figured it was Sugar and not O'Patio based on the original tweet from that Keegan guy or whatever (the tweet before he mentioned Carlos said Sugar).  By the way, Sugar 2 is not in the Arena District - it's more Brewery District - south/southwest of downtown on Front.

RedStorm45's picture

Kind of bizarre this happened Friday night/Saturday morning and nothing really came out until Sunday.

Fugelere's picture

I don't know CPD's specific policy, but most police departments give the responding office 72 hours to finalize and file the report.

steensn's picture

Trying to find the bright side... IF this is true (smells sadly like it is), Meyer has moved quickly and swiftly to take action, unquestionably not letting things happen like they did at Florida. I like it... (not the situation, but the reaction to the situation)

steensn's picture

Also, nothing good happens after midnight... proven once again. How many incidents have we seen between the hours of 7am-midnight get these kids into trouble?

awwwwwwop's picture

I've never understood this sentiment. How many times have players been out past midnight and you heard nothing? Bad things happen when bad things happen.  I think what you really mean is "nothing good happens when you are drunk and famous and acting like a jackass." I think that is more accurate.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

steensn's picture

Certain situations are more likely to occur when it's (1) dark, (2) most people who are awake an active are drinking, (3) it's the end of the day and you are likely fighting your normal sleeping time, etc. Why is it when things get a little hairy, we enforce a curfew and it works?
Can bad things not happen after midnight? Sure, but the chances of you making poor decisions peaks late at night do to MANY reasons. IF what happened shows itself true, I wouldn't label Hyde a women beater, rather he likely made a poor choice in a pretty drunken state. I bet he would never make that decision middle of the day, after a good nights sleep, stone cold sober.
"fun" data: http://killingseasonchicago2010.blogspot.com/2011/02/time-of-incident-st...

awwwwwwop's picture

I get what you are saying, I just feel like making it about the time is a lazy way to analyze a situation. Its not about the time at all. It is about the actions of people. And while I certainly understand your data, I dont think it actually shows the relationship you are trying to prove.  That evidence shows that when people want to murder somebody, it usually happens at night, when it is easier to be incognito.  That is totally different from the assumption that a person will do bad things once it hits midnight.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

AndyVance's picture

If the wisdom was good enough for Woody, it's good enough for me :)

Oyster's picture

I'll phrase it this way.  I have had so many great ideas after midnight that I have lost count!

steensn's picture

No, I am assuming people make worse decisions after "midnight" (late at night) or all the reasons I noted and more. It's not even a hard thing to agree with, I'm not saying one cannot have a good time after midnight and stay out of trouble... but it seems even the best people find themselves making poor decision late at night hey wouldn't make at other times. No where will you find the culmination of all the things I note but late at night, it is a cultural, biological, natural issue.
You dismiss the graphic I showed you, yet your reasoning support my claim because people are more likely to do stupid things with less people around. Frankly, again I point to the numerous things that happen to these kids late at night compared to the middle of the day. They don't go drinking during the day, they do it at night. They haven't spent the past 17 hours awake at 4 pm, they have at midnight. They haven't contemplated doing something stupid and noticed no one around at noon, they have at midnight. Its so obvious I don't understand the resistance to the idea.

Oyster's picture

Obviously he was out past midnight last night and he's too tired this morning.

steensn's picture

Is it too lazy to put the fact that both players that got in trouble this weekend did so late at night?

Fugelere's picture

I don't know CPD's specific policy, but most police departments give the responding office 72 hours to finalize and file the report.
Edit: Sorry for the double post. I meant to reply to Redstorm's comment.

3technique's picture

It sounds shady to me... Hope I am right...If I am wrong this really blows but you have to do the right thing.

collisionbend's picture

If it's Buckeye news, I prefer to read it here, or obvious reasons. Some mornings, however, I do not like to read the news; today is one of those days. Let's hope El Guapo had nothing - or, at least very little - to do with this.

"There's a fine line between perception and reality." -- Luke Fickell

 
gwright78's picture

So he allegedly punched a police officer's daughter? Why should that matter? But it will.

Earle's picture

Now that this is finally out, I think I'm going to unplug for a while and let things settle.
First, DJ slams fedoras, then the site goes down while we're all waiting for news, and now the confirmation we've all been dreading.  Happy Monday, everyone.

RBuck's picture

...and the sky is crying in C-bus.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

AndyVance's picture

Rainy days and Mondays...

SilverBulletNYC's picture

I hate the offseason.

The South will NOT rise again!

MAVBuck's picture

not the kind of offseason excitement one hope for

cbm 1929's picture

i'm not sure why i'm so dense, but apparently the freshman in trouble (not baugh) could actually be bigger news...so who are we dealing with here?
 

salberico's picture

Where did this rumor come from?

FROMTHE18's picture

I am torn. After thinking this over the last few minutes with a co-worker (another American here who went to Oklahoma), the evidence suggests Carlos possibly assaulted a woman (pretty obvious suggestion from the info we have thus far), but the question of Why? as in Why would he doe that? makes this so puzzling that it appears super sketchy and unlikely. My impression of Hyde has always been a positive one. He seems like a great, hardworking kid who wasn't given anything at OSU. He's earned that starting spot and the opportunity to play for a national title and go to the NFL. It would have had to have been a really messed up situation for him to get involved in an assault, and even more so involved in an assault on a woman. I find it difficult to believe its really a cut-and-dry case if he was involved. Sketchy all around eh guys?

buckguyfan1's picture

We will wake up tomorrow with 39 days left until kick-off.... stay focused my friends.

Northbrook's picture

Absolutely. We will be fine with or without but I remain hopeful that this will soon be resolved and Carlos will report for Fall Camp. 

Frankly Scarlet's picture

This mystery freshman had better not have the last name of "Elliot" or "Wilson".
 
Edit: Rumors now that it's Vonn Bell. Ugh.

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

tae1986's picture

Sorry I guess I missed something... I didn't know there was a mystery freshman involved in this?
Can you please share? Thank you!

Remind yourself, Nobody built like you, You designed yourself.

Buckeye80's picture

Sorry, but what did I miss about a freshman in trouble?

RedStorm45's picture

Mystery freshman??

OSU2002Grad's picture

Well then. That would suck.

AndyVance's picture

What rumors now?

TheShookster's picture

if you search for Vonn Bell on twitter you only get like one guy who said he got in trouble with his brother this weekend, and someone responding with "nah it wasn't him"or something

Frankly Scarlet's picture

According to Erik Ainge, whoever the hell that is, from a VolNation.com message board: Vonn Bell was busted for open container.
 
Also, Tim MayDispatch now reporting that Roby was arrested in Indiana Sunday a.m. for "battery resulting in bodily injury". 
 
What the hell is going on with this team?

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

OSUs12-OH's picture

This to shall pass....39 days.

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

TheShookster's picture

I'm too lazy to scroll through everything...but what's this mystery freshman? I know Baugh is in trouble, and that Hyde is now too...but who is this mystery freshman and why is he in trouble?

RedStorm45's picture

It seems a little strange he would punch a girl in the face for refusing to dance with him (going off of MoftSaG's story).  I mean...really?  Feel like there had to be something more or the story just isn't complete based on those Twitter DM's.

Northbrook's picture

It seems odd that that woman would take a running start and throw herself into Carlos' elbow. Lets just wait and see how this plays out.

FROMTHE18's picture

people were drunk, hypothetically, she may have pushed him off her (assuming they were dancing and she was refusing his advances) and he got mad and reacted; or he was bumped/pushed and thought it was a guy, swung blindly, or threw his elbow blindly and it caught the girl instead. I find it difficult to believe Hyde would get that upset at a girl saying no to dancing with him...theres got to be more here IF he in fact made contact with her with his elbow.

Toilrt Paper's picture

If the girl was white it could be the after math of a Trayvon thing.

Fugelere's picture

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot over...

cplunk's picture

Oh My God, you're right! That is probably exactly what happened!!

Ksecus's picture

Stay out of bars  and cease with the
 drinking. Its always the booze that fuels these things

Poison nuts's picture

After midnight...nothing good.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

captain obvious's picture

Thats why the Oregon Ducks system works.
 

 

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

Larryp713's picture

First, I hate violence against women, especially stranger violence. If it is true the assailant struck her because she refused to dance, I find that even more troubling than a couple having an argument that got out of control (which is still a crime).
I enjoyed watching Carlos play and really looked forward to this year. I keep hoping that it was just a look-a-like, as the only identifying information I have heard is witnesses hearing people in the group saying "I can't believe Carlos Hyde just did that."
Whomever struck this young lady has serious anger issues, and hopefully this is the catalyst for this guy to get help. I am not very worried about the impact on the Buckeye's chances to win a National Title... I am far more saddened that a young man could put himself in that situation and behave so foolishly.

Respectfully,

Larryp713

captain obvious's picture

The victim stated that on the listed date and time at the listed location that the listed Suspect struck her in the face with his elbow. The Victim stated that her nose began to bleed and she fell to the ground which caused her to twist her ankle. The Victim stated that she advised the bar staff of the incident but they did nothing to help her.

I know I've reposted this a few times but the elbow part still doesnt seem right unless El Guapo has been training with Jon Jones

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

FROMTHE18's picture

also, the bar staff did nothing to help her? This seems really sketchy. 

salberico's picture

This is quoting the wrong report

TheShookster's picture

I don't know how to embed a Tweet, but based on my extremely fast twitter and google skills Adam Griffin who is apparently Hyde's roomate just tweeted "ït's crazy how people speculate on what they don't know! the world is a cruel place."

steensn's picture

very interesting...

AndyVance's picture

Just saw that, too:

captain obvious's picture

Archie's son wouldnt lie. I'm feeling a litttle more positive about all of this.

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

You aren't kidding; Vonn Bell and Griffin in a matter of minutes, bravo! And keep it up for those of us not so involved in the mayhem of twitter!

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

Sorry for the confusion; I meant he had dug up info on/from the two on Twitter very quickly (i.e. Griffin's tweet and the Bell story)

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

Maestro's picture

and I repeat, ugghhh!!!!!

vacuuming sucks

captain obvious's picture

One Uggghhh limit please
Feel free to use this as needed

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

GoBucks713's picture

I'm waiting to pass judgment until everything comes out, and that seems like the only option for me.

-The Aristocrats!

Colorado Johnny's picture

When you come to The Ohio State University you must be willing to accept you absolutely cannot associate yourself with or conduct the types of things that can and will draw scrutiny. I'm speaking in general here. If you don't like it then don't come here or any D1 program for that matter. You are held to a different standard. I'm not saying I agree with it I'm just telling it like it is. I'm not saying he's guilty but guapo shouldn't have even been in the situation in the first place. 

buckeyepastor's picture

Gotta think that whatever actually occurred, he is off the team while this is investigated and if need be brought to trial.  Even if it is blown out of proportion, these players know the expectations, they know what can't be allowed to occur.   We will move on with Smith and Dunn.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Can people just chill on the assumptions? Just bc someone put it in a police report does no make it true.
All we really know is that someone alleged someone else did something to them.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Toilrt Paper's picture

My glass is always half full. I look at this as an opportunity for Rod Smith to be a two year starter for Ohio State and Eze getting more carries sooner.

acBuckeye's picture

I hope it's not true, but if it is..... Why El Guapo, Why? One of my favorite players, and one of the last guys I'd ever guess would get in trouble.....

AndyVance's picture

BREAKING: As if this day couldn't get any worse, Tim May of the Columbus Dispatch is also reporting that Bradley Roby was arrested over the weekend, stemming from a tussle with bouncers at a bar in Indiana.

According to Monroe County court records, Roby was arrested early yesterday morning in Bloomington and is facing preliminary charges of battery resulting in bodily injury. Sources told The Dispatch he was asked to leave a bar after a disturbance, refused, and was subdued by bouncers at the bar before being taken into custody.
Roby, who opted to return for his junior season -- his fourth year in school -- instead of going to the NFL, has been listed on several preseason watch lists for various national awards as well as being projected as an All-American.

Tim's picture

Just saw this too... Why the hell was Roby in Bloomington?  Ugh...  Someone lock up Braxton, Shazier, etc., and don't let them go anywhere.

RedStorm45's picture

Worst.  Day.  Ever.  (not really but it feels appropriate here)

faux_maestro's picture

Well poop. If anyone needs me I'll be in the bathtub with a razor blade......
 
 

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Smanpoint10's picture

The old saying "nothing good happens after midnight," rings true again

raki's picture

Roby is in trouble too.....GOD he is arrested

Knarcisi's picture

Holy crap, could this get any worse?

AndyVance's picture

Not really - the sky is falling, literally and figuratively.

Buckeye80's picture

I've been a fan of Rod Smith since he joined the team.  I truly think (if he holds on to the ball) that he could be more explosive than any other back we have.  With that said, to use Urban's phrase:  Carlos Hyde is "a grown ass man" on the football field, and you can't lose a player of that caliber without being affected.  I've also always thought that Hyde seemed like a humble young man in his interviews and on twitter. 
With that said, my hoping this story is blown out of proportion has nothing to do with football.  It has to do with a young man's life being impacted possibly beyond repair.  (Example: Duke lacrosse)  Regardless of what comes of these allegations, at this point his reputation will be tarnished (possibly unjustly).  That makes me both sad and sick.

steensn's picture

IF all the rumors are true, Hyde, Roby, Bell... The sky is falling would be a fair assessment of the situation for that to happen in one weekend.

BUCKfutter's picture

Roby will probably miss one game. Fighting bouncers in a club is dumb, but not remotely close to allegedly hitting a woman. I wouldn't want to be going through Marottiville this week.

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Are you fucking kidding me! 

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Toilrt Paper's picture

Marotti can not be working these kids hard enough. OR they are dogging it in workouts. I can remember when I played, I barely had enough energy to crawl into bed at 9:00pm. 

buckskin's picture

Tressel and Woody always said nothing good happens after 10 pm.  Get your ass in bed and get ready for tomorrow.  Carlos Hyde is a humble, reserved young man, but this proves how one decision can affect your life, if the allegation is proven true.  Sad day for everyone all around.

pjtobin's picture

Please no. Please be ruled a accident. Please be a mistake. Please , please , please. My deep depression is kicking in. No help available. My counselor is a buckeye too. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

MAVBuck's picture

not that this takes us out of contention for things but you cant lose players of this calibur and not miss a beat. hyde is painful but roby just down right hurts! theres no replacing an all american corner 

MAVBuck's picture

this on top of the Baugh news from last week. not a good week for buckeye country.

harleymanjax's picture

If she stated she does not know the suspect how did she identify him as Carlos Hyde? At closing time it would be hard to escape the scene so fast without being arrested on the spot........I'm just sayin!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"