Monday Skull Session

By Jason Priestas on February 4, 2013 at 6:00a
75 Comments

Good morning. How's that Super Bowl hangover treating you?

As much as I think the college game is superior to that of the NFL – no free agency, Art Modell will not be moving the Buckeyes to Baltimore, there's not as much parity, meaning Ohio State should be good year in and year out, and the innovative offenses and defenses  – I will hand the NFL this: its championships are typically better.

The average score of the 15 BCS Championship games is 33-17 and of those 15, only three or four of them would be considered exciting, close football games.

The Super Bowl, on the other hand, typically delivers. Last night was no exception as the Ravens jumped out to a 22-point lead, then the Superdome remembered it was in New Orleans and did the most New Orleans thing ever, losing power in half of the dome for 34 minutes, before the 49ers roared back to give us an exciting finish.

On the 49ers' final offensive play of the game, receiver Michael Crabtree was bumped in the end zone, the ball sailed incomplete and brother John topped brother Jim, 34-31, for Super Bowl XLVII.

Was it a defensive hold? Was it pass interference? I guess that depends on whether you think the ball was catchable and which Harbaugh brother you like the most.

It's a shame the four Buckeyes representing the 49ers were denied Super Bowl rings, especially being so close. Ted Ginn showed up large in the return game, returning a 3rd quarter punt 32 yards to set up a huge touchdown for San Francisco, but Donte Whitner will probably want to forget this one. Whitner was abused several times in coverage, particularly in the first half, and missed a few tackles for good measure.

As for that power outage, the Superdome people are saying it was an anomaly, but maybe it was the flurry of Twitter activity taking place 80 miles down the road that caused it? Les Miles was on fire all night, but this was perhaps his finest moment:

Uh... That's one way to put it, coach.

In other Super Bowl-related news, the Big Ten was the star of the Puppy Bowl and here are the commercials from Super Bowl XLVII if you want to take them in again. I'm not a farmer, but I kind of want to be one now. But I need a Ram truck, first. Also, YOU'RE THE MAN, GOLDBLATT.

FIVE STAR MONDAY? It was reported that DeSoto, Texas, all-purpose back and longtime Oregon commit Dontre Wilson would be deciding between the Ducks, Ohio State and Texas on Sunday and it appears as if he has.

His high school coach told Derek that Wilson has come to a decision and will be announcing his choice between the three schools tonight at 10:00 p.m. ET.

We're feeling very, very good that the Buckeyes will win this derby and Mark Pantoni's cryptic tweet from Sunday is encouraging, if you're into parsing cryptic tweets:

Stay tuned. We'll have full coverage of the announcement tonight.

THE CARTERS. Cris Carter is heading to the NFL Hall of Fame, which we'll file under correcting wrongs from five years ago, but it was his son, Duron, making waves on Twitter Saturday after Cayden Cochran, his quarterback at Coffeyville Community College, tweeted that "the team that drafts Duron Carter will get the most lazy, whiny, and non-work ethic player [sic] the NFL has evern [sic] seen. I played with him. Horrible."

Carter hauled in 10 touchdown passes at Coffeyville, so you have to wonder what he would have done had he been a "non-non-work ethic player."

Cochran has since deleted the tweet, but it was an interesting broadside launched minutes after Carter's Hall of Fame election went public. His assertions are not surprising to Ohio State fans (or Alabama fans, for that matter), but at least Duron is saying the right things ahead of his audition for the NFL.

“Ohio State was my fault,” said Duron. “I had a lot of growing up to do. I feel like I handled that.”

Duron on what led him to four different schools, with just one (almost) full season at the FBS level:

“Unexplainable,” Duron said about missing out on the opportunity to play in more collegiate games. “I don’t think anybody that plays football loves the game like I do. I love the experience.”

And finally:

“I feel like I’m ready right now and moving forward,” said Duron. “I have to be confident in moving forward, be the best I can be in the NFL. The best I can do is play to the best of my abilities and teams will like me. All you need is one team.”

Anyone that knows Cris Carter's NFL story knows that he washed out of his first stop, Philadelphia, as a bust. At the time, Cris was dabbling in booze and drugs and wasn't quite mature enough for the rigors and work that an NFL career require. He turned it around in a big way and now he's getting fitted for a yellow blazer.

It's hard to cheer for Duron (thanks again for blocking me on Twitter, Duron), but I won't actively root against him, either. If nothing else, I want to see Duron make it in the NFL for his father.

NSD WITH EXPLOSIONS. Be sure to show up bright and early with coffee Wednesday. Eleven Warriors has Recruitmas covered for you with a survival guide, a special Five-Star Wednesday live blog, live reports from the Woody Hayes Athletic Center and radio appearances throughout the day.

ETC. Bo Pelini has his swag back after flipping a recruit from the SEC... This is a mural of Nick Saban on the side of a gas station in Tuscaloosa... Not to be outdone, here's a mural from Athens... Rick Muscles visits S.W.A.T.S.... One of these kids is not like the other... From Saturday, the second-greatest missed dunk of all time (Oden's is still #1).

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Haybucks's picture

I've always enjoyed the Conference championship games more than the Super Bowl, but this year's may be the best one in a while. I hated seeing the Buckeye 4 lose out, but I was rooting against the younger Harbaugh. It will be really nice to see their brother-in-law win this weekend!
Cris was there to support Duron at every stop. I suspect he'll do the same, whichever team sends Duron a free agent deal. Having Cris hang around your wideouts will be a plus to most teams. Enough, maybe, to give Duron a tryout.

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

wjpalumbo's picture

It is great that Cris was there to support his son through his troubles but it seems he would have been better served to either teach him some tough love like Buddy Ryan showed him or start holding him accountable at and early age.  It amazes me that Duron would have such an attitude of entitlement when he had an example of how that can derail your dreams right under his own roof.  Hopefully after numerous seccond chances (I lost count exactly how many) he has realized that just because he has talent and his last name is Carter doesn't mean the NFL is going to put up with lack of effort and poor work ethic.  To them he is just another guy. 
Gongrats to Cris Carter for the HOF!  Long overdue!

 
 

btalbert25's picture

You know what though?  Duron was just screwing around at school.  He wasn't getting into trouble and getting arrested.  There was no talk of him being into drugs and things like that.  I get it, a little tough love is needed, and honestly we have no idea what he has said or done in reaction to Duron's behavior, but it's not like he needed to cut the kid off and make him fend for himself because he was screwing around in school. 
I'm indifferent about Duron.  I'm not cheering for or against him really.  He squandered a couple of great opportunities with great programs.  I don't know what his deal was, because coming out of high school all I ever heard was that he was the hardest worker on the field and he had a good head on his shoulders.  Maybe he was just burnt out.  Who knows.

cinserious's picture

I get the feeling Duron doesn't really love the game like he puts on. He's got tremendous ability and a legacy with Cris but he's more 'expected' to perform and follow in those footsteps and never had a chance to persue what he really likes in life. Read between the lines in his tweets, he's saying what he thinks people want to hear, it's not from the heart.

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

RedStorm45's picture

awhile? as in since last year's Super Bowl?

iball's picture

One word sums up why NFL championship games are better.....playoffs.
 

“There’s one thing I have learned through all my adventures and conquests - it’s that some people are just wired for success. I had no choice when it came to being great - I just am great.” – Kenny Powers

Lincoln's picture

Yup. The best team may not always win, but there is never any disputing the champion.

acBuckeye's picture

Jim Harbaugh lost..... but he still "wants cake now!!"

Chief B1G Dump's picture

The only reason I wanted the 49ers to win is to see what conspiracy theories came about from the power outage. 
Not to be debbie downer but I thought the Superbowl commercials were mostly weak sauce this year.  For me, the Taco Bell geriatric party stole the show.  I thought the Audi commercial was pretty good (where the kid walked in and made out with the homecoming queen).
Also, cannot wait to see what happens in rounding out this class!  Wednesday should be interesting.

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Wilson announcement tonight, bball game tomorrow, and NSD on Wednesday. Whelp, my production is going to struggle this week.

GoBucks713's picture

Was it just me, or was that game a repeat of the Jerome Bettis SB?

-The Aristocrats!

danavh4's picture

If wilson announces tonight and picks the good guys, do we lose Elliott as he thinks about it for 48 hours???  I've seen visions of them both lighting up the score board at the shoe....and it was glorious!

thatlillefty's picture

I sure hope one doesn't affect the other. I wanna see EZ in scarlet n grey.

CALPOPPY's picture

That Saban mural is....amazing! Reminds me of the painting of Jesus that the old woman touched-up where it almost ended looking like Brutus Buckeye. It's that level of bad.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

Jason Priestas's picture

I actually had the same thought. It's mesmerizing.

acBuckeye's picture

He looks like E.T. in that mural. "E.T......... over.......... signnnnnnnnn"

Jack Fu's picture

I will hand the NFL this: its championships are typically better... The average score of the 15 BCS Championship games is 33-17 and of those 15, only three or four of them would be considered exciting, close football games

Average score of the Super Bowl is 31-15. FYI.

Jason Priestas's picture

Pffft... math. I guess my larger point is that five of the last six Super Bowls have been great games. Whereas the BCS has maybe one great game during that span.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I agree, several of the recent Super Bowls were "great games" in the sense that they were close back-and-forth affairs not decided until late in the games. But the teams involved were less than great. In that sense, greatness was lacking from these games. 
In contrast, greatness spillethed over in the 1993 and 1995 NFC Championship games, respectively, between Dallas and SF, even though both games were decided by 10 pt margins.
To use a bad metaphor: Would you rather watch a boxing match between two all-time heavyweight greats (e.g., Ali v. Frazier = ealry 90s SF v. Dallas) that ends in a 6th-round TKO, or a very closely fought 12-round bout between good, not great figters (e.g., Wladimir Klitschko v. ___? = 2013 SF v. Baltimore)?

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

Using all the Super Bowl scores in that equation, you will find some of the earlier Super Bowls were Stupor Bowls, complete snoozers or blowouts. That's why the average score has a 16-point victory margin. The more current Super Bowls have been closer and more exciting.

Earle's picture

I'm disappointed for the Buckeyes on the Niners team, but I must admit I took pleasure in watching Jim Harbaugh's fits on the sideline.  Some terrible (non)-calls, though.

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

btalbert25's picture

When the Ravens took the safety, and they had to free kick to Ginn, I had this feeling we may just see something amazing happen.  Obviously, I was disappointed, but that was the guy I wanted to see touch the ball last in that game.

BucksfanXC's picture

There were non-calls all night long. They were letting them play. Also, I think that ball was pretty close to uncatchable.
San Fran has no excuses. They squandered many oppurtunities, lacked good play calling (several runs on 3rd and long), and played horrible defense.

“Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect.”  - Woody

cinserious's picture

In the replays it looked like that ball was VERY catchable (had he not been held).

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Not sure about that. If he hadn't been held, would the receiver have been able to catch the ball and still keep two feet in bounds? It looked like he would have had to jump up to catch the ball and then done an amazing Santonio Holmes-like pirouerette to get his feet back in play. I'm not convinced that gravity/physics would have obliged.   
[note: as it was, the receiver appeared to running out of real estate - as the ball was traveling over his head - even though he was still a full yard away from where he needed to be to catch the ball].

Michael Citro's picture

It should also be mentioned that it doesn't matter if the ball is catchable on defensive holding. It's only a factor on PI calls.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Good point!
Given the situation, though, I wonder if catchability might "factor into" whether a ref pulls-the-trigger on a borderline holding call. Technically, it shouldn't matter, but does it?

bodast67's picture

Also, I think that ball was pretty close to uncatchable.

Tell that to Santonio Holmes

 

 

 

     " I hope when I die, I die laughing"...                

Dean's picture

Putting aside the disagreement about whether it was catchable, I don't think whether the ball was catchable matters for defensive holding, only for pass interference:

Holding Rule: "A defensive player may not tackle or hold an opponent other than a runner. Otherwise, he may use his hands, arms, or body only:
(a) To defend or protect himself against an obstructing opponent.
Exception: An eligible receiver is considered to be an obstructing opponent ONLY to a point five yards beyond the line of scrimmage unless the player who receives the snap clearly demonstrates no further intention to pass the ball. Within this five-yard zone, a defensive player may chuck an eligible player in front of him. A defensive player is allowed to maintain continuous and unbroken contact within the five-yard zone until a point when the receiver is even with the defender. The defensive player cannot use his hands or arms to push from behind, hang onto, or encircle an eligible receiver in a manner that restricts movement as the play develops. Beyond this five-yard limitation, a defender may use his hands or arms ONLY to defend or protect himself against impending contact caused by a receiver. In such reaction, the defender may not contact a receiver who attempts to take a path to evade him."

Pass interference: "...Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to: ... (c) Contact that would normally be considered pass interference, but the pass is clearly uncatchable by the involved players."
 
So the uncatchable pass rule only gets the receiver out of pass interference.  He's still not permitted to hold the receiver.
 

Earle's picture

Good point, but I would add that the pass being "clearly uncatchable" would be a stretch.  Difficult catch, absolutely.  Miraculous catch, maybe.  But I don't think uncatchable even entered the official's mind. 
I just think that he didn't want to be the one to "decide" the game, but by swallowing his whistle, he altered the course of the game nonetheless. Did the non-call affect the ultimate outcome?  Who can say?  But the whole "let the players decide it" argument doesn't work when there is an obvious penalty that is not called.

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I didn't see it as an obvious holding penalty. If I'd been in the refs shoes, I would have called holding on it (I'd like to think that I would have had the courage to do so), but it was nowhere near as obvious/severe as the Glen Sharpe hold against Gamble in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl, IMHO.    

Earle's picture

I thought someone might take issue with my choice of "obvious" (it was in my mind, and I didn't have a strong rooting interest in the game, but differing opinions are the lifeblood of the internet).  I think the comparison to Sharpe/Gamble is valid, though, and I agree on the degrees of severity. 
The easy choice was to not make the call, but not making the call arguably had a greater impact on the outcome than making it would have.  The Niners would still have had to score a TD and the Ravens would still have had the opportunity to stop them.  But for an interesting last play on the free kick, the game was essentially over when Baltimore got the ball.

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

RBuck's picture

Was it a defensive hold? Was it pass interference?

It was a hold. Reminded me of the controversial play in the 2003 MNC game.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

buckeye4life050233's picture

What made it worse was the fact that the baltimore drive before the 9ers d had a chance to get off the field on a 3rd and 8 and they called pass interference on what was very similar to the no call on the goal line stand (led to a field goal to put baltimore up 5 and took 4 minutes off the clock)......the ravens got lucky like that all through the playoffs and karma never caught up to them.....

Kaceybrown's picture

If I'm ever drunk in Tuscaloosa, there's a chance that I may pee on that mural. 

btalbert25's picture

Could you stand to be in Tuscaloosa and sober at the same time?  I made a quick stop to get gas there on my way to New Orleans, and in the few minutes I was out of my car a random dude off the street walked up and told me it was his birthday and he was broke wanted to know if I had a couple dollars so h e could get something to sip on.  I gave him a 5 to get him to leave me alone.  Then comes back out and says, you know, I'm not going to lie, I love smokin weed, could you give me 20 so I could get something to smoke on.  I laughed and said, time to go man.  lol.  My 10 minutes in Tuscaloosa was enough for me to never go back.

Kaceybrown's picture

Your 10 minutes in Tuscaloosa is enough for me to never go. Thanks for eating that bullet. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Far be it for me to defend Tuscaloosa but, dude, you were on your way to N'awlins, which is just about the biggest booze/drug-addled, grimy, crime-infested pit in America.
No question, the food in N'awlins blows away the fare offered in Tuscaloosa (although the original Dreamland bbq used to be pretty good). However, the odds of getting accosted by an annoying and/or dangerous bum in N'awlins is probably about 5 times higher there than it is in Tuscaloosa.
Plus, the per capita talent base in Tuscaloosa is considerably higher than it is in N'awlins.    

btalbert25's picture

I'm not comparing the 2 towns lol.  I was going to visit a friend who went to Loyola.  I spent most of the time in the Garden District or in the pretty safe touristy area in the French Quarter.  I can have similar experiences at a gas station in Columbus or Cincinnati I'm sure too.  I just wasn't impressed by T-Town at all.  I shared my experience with a buddy of mine, and he went there to look at going to grad school for History.  He said well pretty much all I saw were bums and BBQ shacks every block or so.  He was less than impressed as well.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Yeah, I was just razzing you.
You gave me an opening to talk trash about New Orleans, of which I'm not a big fan (except for the food, of course). But, yeah, Tuscaloosa ain't much to write home about, either.
And I could have saved your buddy some time on the history grad programs at Univ. of Alabama, which are not well-regarded, I'm afraid. Unless your buddy was a marginal candidate whom - after completing his PhD studies - would have been happy teaching history at Troy University or similar, I'm glad for his sake that he looked elsewhere.

William's picture

I really don't get the love for New Orleans either. Outside of the French Quarter and the WWII Museum, you have a shittily (new word) built French city in a swamp, that really is a butthole on the Gulf Coast. Why money is still pumped into that piece of crap is beyond me. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

LOL, William. But I unfortunately know - and can even appreciate - why money is still pumped into the hell hole that is N'awlins. It's just that I no longer indulge in that lifestyle these days. If you take away the gambling from Vegas, what would you be left with? Likewise, if you take away the "parties" from New Orleans, you're knee deep in a grimy, depressed swamp for what reason . . .?

JKH1232's picture

Er, you do realize that the business of New Orleans is actually shipping, not parties?  As in, it's the largest port in the US, by volume moved (When combined with the Port of South Louisiana, which is in one of the suburbs), the largest port for bulk cargo (That is, foodstuffs, coal, etc) in the world, and a substantial oil and gas terminal?  No New Orleans (Or, a major port on the terminus of the Mississippi, whatever it's named) and the Midwest is much, much poorer.

William's picture

Gary, Toledo, and Cleveland are important ports on the Great Lakes, doesn't mean they aren't shitholes either. A shithole is a shithole, doesn't matter if it has a strategic port or not. 
Example: Belfast, Northern Ireland. Industrial center of the Irish island, 2nd largest city on the Irish island, large port famed for shipbuilding. I have a friend that's lived in Belfast his entire life and he agrees that it's the anus of the Irish island. 
The point is New Orleans received the Final Four last year and the Super Bowl this year. What has that city done to deserve it? It's the anus of the Gulf Coast. 

btalbert25's picture

He didn't go there.  Apparently, there was a professor down there for civil war history that was pretty highly regarded and that's why he was looking at it.  Oddly enough, Northern Kentucky University had 2 of the finest civil war historians in America, but they didn't offer a grad program at the time we were going there.  If they would of had a graduate program for history, it would of been one of the better ones in the country.  Our chapter of Phi Alpha Theta was number 1 in America, Yale was number 2. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Talbert, that's true . . . if an otherwise lowly-rated grad program has a highly-regarded specialization and/or star faculty member (e.g., Civil War history at Univ. of Alabama), that can make all the difference. I should have been kinder to Univ. of Alabama, which is several steps above the likes to Ole Miss or Miss. State. 
I've not much familiar with Northern Kentucky University, but it sounds like an excellent undergrad history program. Sometimes/often, the best instruction comes from programs offering no grad degree.

btalbert25's picture

Kind of hilarious, the call I just took at work came from a customer in Tuscaloosa.  His ears must of been burning.

causeicouldntgo43's picture

If you are in Bama and hangin' with Stoneburner and Mewhort your odds of peeing on the side of the building will increase dramatically...........

Dougger's picture

After all the stuff those old people did in that commercial, they probably died from eating Taco Bell 
Pretty fitting that a no call helps end the season that started with replacement refs

I like football

btalbert25's picture

The question I have for signing day is, will the hordes of Buckeye fans converging on 11W Wednesday morning break the internet?

cinserious's picture

No, but half the lights will go out on your computer.

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

thatlillefty's picture

I see you Teddy Ginn. One love.

Michael Citro's picture

Alex Boone quietly had a pretty good game. I watched him a lot when the Niners had the ball and he was especially good in pass pro. Decent on running plays.

It was defensive holding, for sure on that fourth down play. I also thought the case for roughing (not running into) the kicker was strong, and that Ed Reed was offsides on the 2-point conversion. But these things happen.

I feel especially bad for Larry Grant, who was 0-2 in Juco National Championships, 0-2 in BCS NCGs with the Buckeyes, and now 0-1 in the Super Bowl. Always a bridesmaid...

okiebuck's picture

Agree; I think Boone played well and probably graded out a "winning performance". Teddy also played well and they should have gotten him the ball a little more. Donte was out of position a few times BUT the Niners corners were downright terrible all night. Didn't have a horse in this one but I did want our Buckeye guys to get the ring. The only good thing about Baltimore is the crabcakes! 

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

BuckNutInAnnArbor's picture

Crabcakes and football, that's what Maryland does!

"...but then again 'Michigan' and 'huge mistake' are synonymous so that shouldn't have been much of a surprise to anybody."  - Mark Titus

okiebuck's picture

Hope the Terps get the memo on that!

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

tennbuckeye19's picture

I got crabs in Maryland once. It's kind of a long story...

DetroitBuckeye's picture

I agree with a lot of what was said about the championship games, I thought that Oregon Auburn was a great game but that's been a few years.

 
RedStorm45's picture

If the call on Culliver (who was AWFUL all night) the previous drive was P.I., then that had to be holding/PI on Smith.  The ball looks uncatchable when you're held for 3 to 4 yards into the end zone.  Case could have been made Crabtree was a victim of helmet-to-helmet the previous play, but it was more of a glance than anything, but with what we saw called this year I was a little surprised at the no flag.  Ed Reed definitely offsides.  Holding all over on the self-safety with Ravens just tackling 49ers players in the end zone.  Roughing the kicker would have kept the drive alive.  Conspiracy theorists might say the refs/NFL wanted the Ravens to win.
But of course, play calling and terrible execution in the red zone killed San Fran.  Outside of the red zone and downs not 3rd or 4th, Kap was really good.  Inside the red zone and on 3rd and 4th downs...awful.  Frisco had to waste 2 timeouts (and one off the 2 minute warning??) in the 2nd half, which hurt them stopping the clock on the Ravens' last drive.  Pretty bad play calling in the red zone...no runs by Gore or Kap on that last drive inside the 7?
I wonder what the 9ers would have looked like if Manningham was health (they desperately needed a 2nd receiver because Moss is old/rusty/Moss).  They also waived Brandon Jacobs.  I think if they can get a 2nd receiver to compliment Crabtree and Davis, they should be better on offense (although Gore isn't getting any younger and is hitting the age when RB's are basically "done" in the NFL).  They need a better piece or two in the secondary.
 
Ugh, couldn't get work off Wednesday...any way we can get an 11W live stream for the day in place of a podcast?? I'd pay for that haha

OSUNeedles's picture

Culliver should have gotten MVP...

RedStorm45's picture

Forgot to add, I am extremely happy we never have to see Ray Lewis crying again on the field and his over-hyped dramatics.  Sick of it.

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Hate to break it to you, but while Brother Ray won't be on the field as a player, he will be on TV as an NFL announcer. I suspect him and Dan Marino may get together and compare Baby Mama notes. He may even shed a tear or two in his new role.

okiebuck's picture

Good one but do you think Brother Ray can even speak in complete sentences??

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

RedStorm45's picture

I don't even really pay attention to the pre-game coverage.  And I doubt he'll be crying hysterically about the "sacrifices" he made for his TV crew.

NC_Buckeye's picture

I'm still of the opinion that Lewis should be doing 10 to 20 at North Branch for manslaughter. He can do pre-game from his cell.
 

nickma71's picture

I am happy for Ozzie Newsome.

acBuckeye's picture

I wanted nothing more than to see Teddy bring that free kick all the way back at the end. Oh well.

William's picture

1) The commercials were subpar this year, although the Budweiser, Dodge, Audi and Taco Bell commericials were good.
 
2) Last night was an extremely painful sporting experience watching the Ravens win their second Super Bowl since leaving Cleveland. Basically, Art Modell can eat shit and burn in Hell. 
3) That was holding in the endzone, but the 49ers had a multitude of chances to win that game, stupid penalties and bad playcalling lost them the game. 

BuckeyeBoyer85's picture

Totally agree. Especially with #2. I'm glad Art died so he couldn't celebrate the team he bankrupted.

Wayne Woodrow Hayes

William's picture

Yep. I usually refrain from speaking badly of the dead, outside of folks like Hitler or Stalin. But Modell is a piece of shit in his own right, and probably the biggest shit-stain of an owner in NFL history. Hope it's nice and toasty in Hell Art. 

BrewstersMillions's picture

4-6 seconds from point A to point B and when you get to point B, be pissed off

William's picture

Personal favorite:

Buckeyeboy's picture

Perhaps this casual observation is due more to recruiting paranoia than anything else, but the Dontre Wilson announcement, at 10 PM ET, reminds me of a West Coast time slot.

Go Bucks!