Five Things: Florida

By Chris Lauderback on January 3, 2012 at 1:00p
Photo: G. Green / Orlando SentinelI can't even imagine the elation

At least they made history. 

Looking to send the juniors and seniors out with a win in their final bowl appearance, the Buckeyes instead extended their losing streak to four games racking up Ohio State's first seven-loss season since '97. As in EIGHTEEN-97. 

Not once tasting the lead, Luke Fickell's group showed zero improvement made during Gator Bowl practices as Florida safely disposed of the Buckeyes 24-17 yesterday afternoon in a spacious Everbank Field. Even with the lackluster effort, they still managed to outgain an almost equally bad Florida team but big blunders on special teams and a huge disparity in 3rd down conversions proved too much to overcome. 

Thankfully a New Beginning is already underway as Urban Meyer met with his Buckeyes this morning at 7:00am. 

While Meyer and company are poised to march forward, let's take one last tortured look at yesterday's latest punch to the gut. Tip your own 40 though, I drank all mine enduring the creation of one last Five Things for the 2011 season. I thought it would never come. 

It Takes All Three Phases

Nobody would argue the offense was explosive or that the defense was spectacular but it was the stank of special teams that decided this one. 

Having finally grabbed a bit of momentum after Braxton hit Posey on a five yard slant to tie the game at seven early in the 2nd quarter, the Buckeyes gave it right back as Andre Dubose fielded the ensuing kickoff at the one yard lane and strolled 99 yards untouched putting the Gators back in front. 

ESPN's horrifically bad Ed Cunningham and Mike Patrick predictably went into a spew about Florida's speed, blah blah blah, but the return had ZERO to do with speed. I'm not even sure Dubose ever really turned on the jets - there wasn't a need as a Buckeye never came within five yards as his teammates provided an escort worthy of the Pope. 

The kickoff wasn't deep enough but it wasn't a line drive meaning there was no excuse to not even miss a tackle. The result was more than just a seven point lead as it ensure the Buckeyes would again be forced to play from behind with an offensive scheme not built for such duty.

In case you're wondering, Mike Vrabel was helping with kickoff coverage team after Paul Haynes left Ohio State for Arkansas. 

Trailing by four to start the 2nd half, the offense stalled at the Buckeye 45 but appeared to do enough to at least flip the field. Enter special teams. This time both edges of the line collapsed leaving the back line to block at least four Gators with three players. Heuerman definitely picked up the wrong guy - essentially double teaming Boren's man instead of taking the rusher furthest to his right - but that would've never been a problem if the tight end on the right side of the line of scrimmage chipped the end rusher even a little bit. Those two errors aside, the punt was still likely t be blocked as the left end of the line also barely chipped leading to a virtual jailbreak. 

The comedy of mental errors paved the way for Chris Rainey to block the kick allowing Graham Stewart to scoop up the ball and coast into the endzone giving Florida a 21-10 lead with 11:14 left in the 3rd quarter. 

Even without a sputtering offense giving up two special teams touchdowns is usually fatal. With a sputtering offense, the game was all but over despite 26 minutes of game time remaining. 

Boom and Posey Fail to Deliver

Partially responsible for the fact their teammates won't be playing in a bowl game next season, Boom and especiallly Posey owed their brothers a lot more than what they gave in their respective fourth and final bowl appearances. 

Instead of playing key roles in helping Ohio State secure a bowl win against an SEC foe both coughed up the football for an offense that needed all the senior leadership and playmaking it could muster. 

After the defense surrendered a 14 play, 80 yard TD drive putting Florida up 7-0, Boom fumbled on the first play of Ohio State's ensuing possession giving the Gators excellent field position at the OSU 32. A touchdown giving Florida a two TD lead would've spelled deep trouble but Simon jumped on a fumbled snap on 2nd down sparing Boom and the Buckeyes for the time being. Boom was less culpable as he did rush 12 times for 82 yards and caught an 11 yard pass but he can thank John Simon (and special teams) for not potentially ending up as the goat. 

Posey started on the right foot as he hauled in a well thrown slant from Braxton on the ensuing possession to cap an eight play, 72 yard drive that tied the game at seven apiece but his positive contributions stopped there as he finished with five catches but just for 38 yards. 

His lack of production as a receiver relies on other factors such as the playcalling and quarterback but his biggest impact on the game could not be blamed on either of those elements. 

Hoping to capitalize on a Tyler Moeller interception at the Florida 47 trailing 21-10 with under five minutes left in the 3rd quarter, Miller hit Posey with what should've been a 3rd down conversion on another slant at the Gator 35 but Posey inexplicably coughed up the ball after the catch which Josh Evans recovered and took back to midfield. 

The fumble killed a chance for OSU to cut into the lead and was the last time the Buckeyes would venture that deep into Gator territory until the late 4th quarter TD drive that was aided by a prevent defense nursing a two touchdown cushion. 

It's not about piling on these two but considering they were enjoying their 4th straight bowl game as seniors who helped OSU wade into the deep end with the NCAA, it would've been nice to see the duo give the Buckeyes a better shot at victory in their last bowl game until hopefully sometime in early 2014.  

Braxton is starving for a mentor

After his outstanding performance against Michigan, albeit with a few plays he'd like back, I think most Buckeye fans were thinking Miller might go off against the Gators. 

Though he still had a decent game, it didn't look like Braxton matured much more than any of his teammates during bowl practices.

His final statline read 18/23 through the air for 162 yards and a pair of touchdowns but he was 12/17 with just 80 yards until a last gasp drive against Florida's prevent defense saw him pad his numbers with 6/6 for 82 yards. 

Passing accuracy really wasn't the issue today though he did overthrow a wide open Posey for a sure 23 yard touchdown that would've tied the game at 14 late in the 1st half. Windy or not, the throw needed to be a touch pass as there wasn't a Gator defender within 10 yards of DeVier but Miller threw a laser high and outside. 

The biggest area of opportunity from this game, as it has been with many others, was a lack of pocket awareness. Yes, the pass pro was shaky at times but Braxton often had plenty of time to throw, either to a receiver or simply to get rid of it, but instead took a sack. 

One particular instance occurred on 3rd and 12 from the OSU 44 as Miller had plenty of time but failed to locate a wide open Posey over the middle before Ronald Powell dropped him for a seven yard loss.

Failng to feel the rush and escape pressure, Miller was sacked six times with four coming on 3rd downs plays. The drive killers helped Florida hold the Buckeyes to 2/10 on 3rd down while the Gator offense was busy converting 6/12 3rd downs. The sacks killed his rushing numbers which stood at 15 for 20 when the gun sounded. 

Miller still ran very well on designed runs, once steamrolling corner Loucheiz Purifoy on a 9 yard burst one play after converting a 3rd and 8 with a keeper. 

The predictable gameplan didn't help Miller's cause as Bollman returned to conservative form after opening it up against Michigan. Too often, Miller was running play action when it wouldn't fool a high school team or running a draw into the teeth of the defense. 

Bottom line, Miller made decent progress this year when you consider he had a video coordinator for a QB coach and a predictable dinosaur for an offensive coordinator but it's fair to expect a greater leap to greatness in year two with some legit coaching attacking his current areas of opportunity. 

a tale of two s's

Senior right tackle JB Shugarts capped a jittery career with a pair of false start penalties bringing his well-chronicled total to 25 over the past three seasons. TWENTY-FIVE. 

His 1st jump occurred on Ohio State's 2nd play from scrimmage but was overcome by a Florida facemask penalty on the next play. His 2nd jump was much more detrimental. Trailing 21-10 and facing 3rd and 8 at the OSU 47, Shugarts left early putting the offense in a 3rd and 13 hole. On the next snap, Shugarts failed to hold his block - combined with Braxton's lengthy hold - killing the drive. 

The sack was one of two that Shugarts had a direct hand in as he was beat on OSU's opening series resulting in a two yard loss on 1st and 10 at the Gator 37. 

Shugarts also whiffed on a block during Posey's six yard loss on an end around. 

Meanwhile, on the other side of the ball, John Simon did was Urban Meyer expects - he played like his freaking hair was on fire. 

Overcoming a heaping helping of blocks that could've been flagged (looked like refs let it go on both sides to me), Simon was in the backfield for much of the day. 

Two plays that stood out occurred within minutes of each other. First, on 1st and 10 at the OSU 22, Simon almost caused a fumble as he demolished John Brantley as he dropped back to pass. Not only did he sting Brantley in what could've easily been ruled a fumble, he blasted into tackle Xavier Nixon who was temporarily injured. 

After Boom fumbled to open the following possession deep in OSU territory, Simon alertly pounced on a Brantley fumble to keep OSU from falling into at least a 10-0 hole late in the 1st quarter. 

Bluntly, it's great to know one S is coming back next year and the other isn't. 


You know it's a derp of a game when the postgame happenings are far more interesting that what transpired on the field. 

First, it looked as if only Nathan Williams and Ryan Shazier hung around to sing Carmen Ohio with the TBDBITL. Lesmerises noted as much as did others on twitter indicating the bulk of the team either ran to the locker room or stopped on the ramp leading to it as the band played. 

Second, when asked about the chatter and overall chippy nature of the game, Tyler Moeller had this to say according to Marcus Hartman:

I’ve never seen more people swing at our players & call us racial slurs…I’ve never been called a cracker more in my life than I have today."

Moeller is widely considered a stand up guy so I believe him completely however I found it interesting he would choose to inform the media even if asked a general question like that. I'm not saying he's wrong for doing so, just surprised he would go into detail. 

Third, though it's probably doubtful he'll have them running gassers like he did to the Bowling Green guys when he held his first meeting as head coach, I'm incredibly intrigued about this morning's 7am team meeting. 

The new beginning is underway. Hallelujah. 




Defend Youngstown's picture

I'm no fan of trash talk and I'm not trying to defend it. It is what it is and it will happen. But if I'm a Florida player and I see a 6th year leader of the team across the field complaining about trash talk unprompted after the game, and not about the loss and failure to execute, I know I got into his head and feel good about it.

Poison nuts's picture

Hate to agree completely on this one but I agree completely on this one.

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Alex's picture

Ground rules were laid out this morning and expectations for the 2012 season began today....twitter ban is just one of many things we have so far

ThirdLegLouie's picture

Is a write up going to be forthcoming about what transpired at the meeting this morning? 

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bassplayer7770's picture

*gets popcorn ready*

ThirdLegLouie's picture

Same. I have a feeling it was some variation of this:   "Positively No Visitors" sign included. 


If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

Squirrel Master's picture

Jamie Foxx=Braxton Miller. Learn and grow cuz the promise land is a damn awesome place to be!

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

Alex's picture

From what I hear ground rules were laid down....expectations, especially about grades and improving them were made...the way they dress and act in public was addressed.....talked about needing to make improvements on the offensive side of the ball (and that is a very nice way of relaying that point)....workouts will start Monday and you can bet it will NOT be an easy one.....Jaamal Berry apparently wasn't there, which likely means he is gone.....another player or two supposedly missed the meeting by accident (overslept) which is a huge NO NO

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

Thanks Alex....sounds like mostly common sense stuff, but we needed a new voice to bang it into their heads, obviously....I would fully expect Berry to be gone, just think a change of scenery would do him well....and with Rod Smith "missing" the charter, I tend to think he is leaving as well....throw in a guy like TY Williams, who popped off on twitter earlier this year, and there's 3 guys right there....any you are hearing about, or is it all just too much rumor-mongering at this point?

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Apparently, he also banned Twitter - which is a very good idea. 

If you really want a laugh - then click on the following link.  Some jackass blogger writes this scathing article about Urban's leadership abilities based on this ban.  He states all over the place that he is an NFL writer and doesn't cover college, which brings into question his intentions for the article.  Upon further review, he is an Ann Arbor Community College man and has chosen to take a cheap shot at Urban and OSU.  There are a ton of people bitch slapping him right, including me, and if you want a laugh, join in on the slapping because it is fun!!!

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Alex's picture

Funny because now players tweeting ban isn't real

Buckeye Chuck's picture

OK, this is weird, because earlier today Carlos Hyde was saying goodbye to his Twitter followers (he wasn't alone), and now he's accusing the media of making up the ban story. Either Meyer said something in the meeting that was misunderstood by multiple people, or he changed his mind.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Alex - the one I read today seemed to say it was banned after today so they had a chance to lob out a couple more Tweets to say adios.  I guess we'll have our answer if/when all of their tweets go silent tomorrow.

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Actually - the mass confusion and the amount of blogging/reporting this has generated pretty much illustrates why it actually should be banned, if it really isn't at this point. The coach said one thing, and the players immediatley start tweeting different things, and now, nobody has a clue what is fact - no distraction here, eh.  I'm guessing tomorrow's meeting might be a little more to the point.

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Northbrook's picture

Okay, I'll ask. What have you got so far?

Doc's picture

A recap of the meeting would be really nice.  Maybe it would squelch some fires.

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Irricoir's picture

This makes me happy.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

cplunk's picture

I am so happy that this year is over. That game was everything I hated about this year all wrapped into one experience that felt like a prostate exam. 

bucknut24's picture

Glad it's finally over.

TLB's picture

I know most of you like him, but Vrabel is an awful coach.

Orlando Buckeye's picture

Sub par linebacker play. However, he is in just his first year, and he seems to an asset in recruiting so I think we give him a chance to improve.

bassplayer7770's picture

I've heard about issues regarding depth at LB as we all have.  Vrabel had no part in recruiting for this season's class, so I'm not sure how much we can judge him at this point.

Northbrook's picture

There is a reason that Urban is recruiting LBers hard right now. It is because many of our LBers are subpar. Vrabel wasn't going to magically make them better. Some things cannot be overcome with coaching or if they can be overcome may take longer than one season. Maybe with a year under the new strength and conditioning staff those returning will have a chance to be better.

Jason Priestas's picture

Any chance you could bring Dick home for us?

TLB's picture

I dont believe they can afford him at this point.........but he may be available ;)

Our linebackers were out of position all year long and chasing plays.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Jason, what do you mean by that?

Any chance you could bring Dick home for us?

William's picture

I believe he's talking about Dick LeBeau

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

I am willing to give Vrabel a huge break this year for many reasons:

1 - He is great Buckeye defensive player

2 - He had a great NFL career so when he speaks, kids will listen

3 - It sounds like he is going to be a great assest on the recruiting trail

4 - He played with passion and it appears he will coach that way as well

5 - I have no doubt that there were several bitter, angry coaches on that staff who basically phoned it in which did not help anybody

6 - This was his first year and he had absolutely no direction

7 - Next year will be a good year to assess his ability to coach



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phxbuck's picture

I agree, let him have a year working with Urban, Everett, and Fickel to see what comes to fruition.  We learned this year that the entire coaching staff were a bunch of lackeys that were used to following rather than leading or thinking on their own so this is who he was learning the ropes from.  If Belichek gives him good reviews and he passed Urban's screening process then he deserves some more time. 

phxbuck's picture

Tyler Moeller - Put a cork in it.  No one cares that people called you a cracker or their is a double standard for racism in this country, deal with it and get over it.  Your making us look like whiners that we lost and also making your yourself look stupid for not owning up to your contribution to the blocked punt.  

Posey & Boom - Thank you for being major factors in the demise of our program and also our demise in yesterdays game.  I am sure that you are good guys and thank you for your years of service but I am over hearing your shout outs to Buckeye nation.  Also your welcome for a free education and the opportunity to make either hundreds of thousands of dollars in the League or the opportunity to open a "Fitness Consultation Firm" in Reynoldsburg. 

Entire Coaching Staff - We did not lose to SEC "speed" or better "talent" yesterday, we lost to better coaching and a better disciplined team.  I think this is the thing that has bugged me the most about yesterday.  Florida wasn't the better team physically, but they sure were mentally, no excuse.

To be honest I am not really that bummed about not playing in a bowl next year.  I feel like we need the extra year to shift the culture of the program to what Urban wants it to be.  I think you will see some people dropping from the program in the next 8 months due to the new regime's work ethic standards and I look forward to see who that is.  Here's to 2012 and the exciting unknowns!




Maestro's picture

Well said on all points.

vacuuming sucks

BuckeyeMark's picture

If we are going to play like we did yesterday then I welcome a permanent NCAA bowl ban.

The great news is that we aren't.  The old regime is gone.  Time for something new, different and better.

But as a final note - did anyone really realize how much Tress meant to this team?  Our coaches are bad.  Very bad.  We won a ton of games and the last two BCS bowl games we were in (I know, I know ... vacated ... but I was there, we beat the Hogs!).  How is that possible with Bollman and the rest of this crew?  Tress must have a red S on the front of his undershirt.

I'm so mad at him and so done with all the Vest Love - the guy did bad things and got us drilled by the NCAA - but watching that mess yesterday made me have to appreciate him.

And now the past is just that... past.  On to better things with Urban!

741's picture

Tress clearly was a genius micromanager of the offense and probably had a heavy hand in special teams as well. I think he was probably hands off on the defensive side of the ball - but who knows.

poop's picture

I'm even more upset with Tress after this season. I suspected some of the people on staff were terrible hires, but watching them try to survive on their own this season confirmed it. Looking at you <redacted> and <redacted>.

Buckeyeholicwompa's picture

There is going to be a huge flip flop from a mentality stand point as well as putting everything that happened in 2011 behind us. Us as in the team itself and we the fans. I think Urban was a very good choice at this point and based on whats happened as of late, I think the University saw a lot in a guy like him to get things back on track.

I recently spoke to a Pickerington H.S. football player who I met at the airport and asked him if he had interest in OSU and the first thing he said was yes and immediately mentioned Urban Meyer. So just goes to say so far what the hiring of Urban is doing for us.

I expect that in 2012, the current football players as well as the new class coming in will go through a drastic change in strength and conditioning, mentality, and style of play. I just hope that the transition will be a smooth but very good one. I hope to see a really good spring game and a re-energized, refocused football team with a KILLER INSTINCT.

F5'd as of 7am this morning. Urban's cat is now out of the cage and dangerous as ever.

P.S. Hide yo' wife, hide yo' kids. The new coaching staff has finally arrived.

Squirrel Master's picture

So uh, I am still waiting for the official word that Bollman is gone! Keep thinking the horror is over and yet he still haunts my dreams! I said it to my brother watching the game yesterday that it is killing that offense every time they do a delayed hand off DAVE or draw play. My brother said they need to do that to keep defenses honest and work the play action. Chris, you couldn't have said it any better than I could! Not fooling anyone!

BTW, is it me or did I see on the only touchdown drive (prior to the late 4th quarter one) they actually did 1. screen pass 2. QB rollout 3. WR slant, on one drive? Gee, I think it might have worked if you did it more often, ya think! perhaps throw in a WR screen about 10 yards out if they are playing man-to-man so tight!

Kills me to see highlights of Case Keenum throwing bombs behind a defense when they know that is what he does yet we can't seem to get an inch past the D.

TGIO - 2012 and beyond!



I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

Jason Priestas's picture

Regarding official confirmation on Bollman's departure, here you go:

Squirrel Master's picture

+ 1 billion!

thanks man! I can sleep now!

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

builderofcoalitions's picture

Christmas came late this year.

Because we couldn't go for three.

matti's picture


- one bucket of fish for the walrus

builderofcoalitions's picture

SM, agreed on the playcalling. It seemed like maybe 5/6 of the sacks could have been avoided had the Buckeyes had a hot-read for a slant from where the blitz was coming. Instead, those WR's left uncovered were running downfield for longer patterns.

Because we couldn't go for three.

Squirrel Master's picture

exactly. I will say a freshman QB does need time to learn how to throw slants but at some point they should have been worked in a little more often. and how about a rollout. all those sacks were pretty much him sitting back in the pocket (yes he was taking waaaay to long) and could have been avoided with a simple rollout. I didn't count but how many rollouts, true rollouts, were there? not enough because with a talent like him you need to get him in the open. Plus he can throw pretty well on the run. I would say almost better than if he sits back and throws off his back foot.

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

builderofcoalitions's picture

Funny how people are commenting on the "old regime" without really considering who that is. Tressel's teams were plenty tough and dsiciplined. Sure, this year was a dumpster fire and we saw the results yesterday, but I don't expect much to change. 2011 was a bump in the road.

I'm glad this senior class is gone. Their sense of entitlement sickens me. Take Boom and Posey for instance. Sure, they did a lot for the team while suspennded, but their selfishness helped put the program in the mess it's in. When Boom made his move to take over the RB duties from Saine, the senior leader gladly took a reduced and altered role in order to help the team win. Posey's issues reared their ugly head long before his suspensions when he was continually outclassed by Sanzenbacher last season. Posey should have clearly been the team recieving leader with his superior talent, but Sanz just had more heart [insert cliche about white guys playing receiver].

Even though he didn't come in with this senior class, I'm happy to see Moeller leave with them. Aside from a few big plays before last season's injury, he hasn't done much of anything at OSU. Although no one deserves to go through what he did after getting sucker-punched in Florida a couple of years back, I suspect he wasn't totally innocent in the incident either. Now, as a sixth-year senior, he'll be remembered for missing a ton of tackles and whining about some name-calling. (For the record, being called a "cracker" isn't even in the same universe as being called the N-word. Call it a double-standard, but it's a fact.)

I still think there's a lot of character left on this team and look forward to OSU's Ruban renewal, but it's time for this class to go.

Because we couldn't go for three.

Denny's picture

'I'm glad this senior class is gone. Thier sense of entitlement sickens me.'

Not saying that you ever said anything like this, but plenty of people were building them up as one of the greatest recruiting classes ever [via Brew Crew comments, etc.]. The fanbase may have built them up a bit too quickly.


builderofcoalitions's picture

I'm not saying they weren't talented, but you're right about building them up too soon. This happens all the time to successful programs. They put together a few successful seasons, recruit really well. Said recruits come in with tons of hype and expect that they will have the same or greater success. So, we ought to tread lightly with Urban's first class.

Because we couldn't go for three.

Irricoir's picture

 (For the record, being called a "cracker" isn't even in the same universe as being called the N-word. Call it a double-standard, but it's a fact.)

Fact my @$$..wrong is wrong and right is right. I disagree with you.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

builderofcoalitions's picture

We'll agree to disagree then.

Because we couldn't go for three.

buckeyedude's picture

Ya know, call me naive, but I played plenty of organized sports through high school, and I was taught to #1) play to win, but #2) respect your opponent, #3) win or lose with class and grace, and #4)play with good sportmanship. It is a GAME after all, right? Not life and death.

So some don't think "cracker" compares with the "N" word? Both are disrepectful. It comes down to the golden rule. If I was Tyler Moeller, I likely would have gotten ejected from the game. And I fault the officials for not putting a stop to it. But in this PC world, everyone is scared.

Not me. I will speak my mind.




Doc's picture

We aren't arguing right or wrong.  We are saying Moeller needs to STFU about the trash talk.  Win like a man and lose like one.  Now it sounds like he is whining and we are a bunch of babies.  " I din't pway well tause he talled me names."

I'm hiding baby and I'm dreaming
I'm riding down your moonlight mile

builderofcoalitions's picture

Agreed, Doc. It's part of the game. 

Because we couldn't go for three.

Squirrel Master's picture

not to jump in on the arguement but I think his comments were more so that is how Florida plays. Rude and crude! Yes stuff like that happens alot on the field but at some point you gotta show respect to your fellow players. There are classier ways of getting into your opponents head without having to go there. That is how I see that comment.

Remember how Miami was in the late 80's. They were a superior talent but they also were classless. I think this senior class for Florida is classless and riding on the coat tails of the Tebow years. Say what you will about winning and losing, I just shake my head when I hear about how classless people can be. EX: Wisconsin basketball fans!

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

Irricoir's picture

Hey Doc, my comment had nothing to do with what Moeller had to say, and his complaining. I more or less agree with you.

My comment is in reference to the quoted caption from the above poster.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

Doc's picture

That's alright Irricoir.  All these different sized boxes can get difficult to follow after awhile.

I'm hiding baby and I'm dreaming
I'm riding down your moonlight mile

Northbrook's picture

There are a few guys I'll miss but on balance I'm glad they are gone too.

poguemahone's picture

Has Gene Smith been fired yet?

builderofcoalitions's picture


On that note, I've heard from some pretty reliable sources in-the-know (who will deny it if asked) that Smith and Gee knew everything. They all knew. It's incredible that these men still have jobs. They must share agents with Bollman.

Because we couldn't go for three.

741's picture

I love the Twitter ban. I personally think it probably has to do with focus (on academics, conditioning, etc.) and accountability - reducing the amount of self-oriented, as opposed to team oriented, activity. I think Urban is saying to the team that their job is not to collect twitter followers and become a celebrity, it is to be an excellent student athlete and great teammate.

If I could ask the new regime under Coach Meyer to implement one more thing it would be to remove the player's names from the jerseys.

Denny's picture

If you think that banning Twitter is going to make players focus on classwork or the team you're mistaken.

Last I checked, chicks still exist.


741's picture

Not suggesting this is a cure all, just a reasonable step in a good direction. I suspect it won't even be permanent.

741's picture

P.S. I just found the thread thread in Buckshots on this topic and realize I am about 4-5 hours late to the party. Sorry to bore folks in rehashing this point of view. lol

Buckeye Vic's picture

Thank goodness that dog poo of a season is over.  I don't want to hear all that bellyaching about poor Fickell either.  We stunk this year!  Stunk!  Stunk!  Stunk!  Our team was ill-prepared on far too many occasions which is a direct reflection of the coaching staff.  Fickell may end up being a head coach somewhere else down the line but he was way over his head this season.  The players on the team didn't put up much of a fight yesterday to send Fickell out a winner.  That in itself speaks volumes.  

Bring on the Urban Meyer era.  

Buckeye Vic (SoCal)

Rather_Be_Golfing's picture

Twitter ban, who cares?  That isn't going to help kick coverage.  Nor punt protection.  We are all acting like OSU has never had discipline.  Please.  Coach Tress had a lot of it.  Quick memories around here.


This year was difficult.  The leadership was lost when guys were suspended and things went in right field.  Agreed.


I have trust in Urban and he is trying to set the tone.  For sure.  That is a good thing.  Just worried there are a lot of OSU loyalists who think this thing is going to be fixed in a year with Meyer.  I am just a little more realistic.  We have big holes to fill on offense.  Make fun of the lineman all you want, still big holes to fill.


Also. just ask the Browns how difficult it is to win when there is nobody to throw the ball too.  Impossible.


just saying...