Urban Meyer is a great coach. But if he doesn't win at least The Big Ten Title(and outside Buckeye Nation they are saying the National Championship), does things tarnish? Already you hear the whispers that OSU should have won it all in 2015 strictly on talent alone. Of course I explain to them that talent alone doesn't win national titles, and they reply... RIGHT! Now with a few top five recruiting classes, and last year statistically the best recruiting class on record. What are the lowest, reasonable expectations for this year, you would except before you would turn off ESPN and spend winter playing poker and watching Frasier? 

9-3 ?

8-4 ?