11W Heart of It All Classic: Sports Region Round Two

By Jason Priestas on March 23, 2014 at 7:16a

Welcome to the second round of the 11W Heart of It All Classic. Voting is now open in the Sports region, and boy, is it loaded.

The Sports region saw two upsets in the opening round, with No. 12 Jim Tressel knocking off the hit king, Pete Rose, and No. 11 Archie Griffin taking No. 6 LeBron James to the woodshed. The region also saw the biggest blow out in round one, with former Ohio State coach Woody Hayes, a four seed, destroying No. 13 Roger Staubach with 98.02% of the vote.

The top two seeds, No. 1 Jesse Owens and No. 2 Jack Nicklaus are both expected to advance with ease, but the 4/5 matchup is a dandy, featuring Hayes and Tressel. We're pretty much asking you to pick your favorite parent.

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#1 Jesse Owens vs. #8 Jerry Lucas

Jesse Owens: The "Buckeye Bullet" tied the world record for the 100-yard dash in high school. I'll repeat that, in high school.

From there, he won a record eight individual NCAA championships – four each in 1935 and '36 – before going on to win four gold medals in the 1936 Summer Olympics held in Berlin. So much for the master race, eh, Adolf?

Owens had no trouble with No. 16 Branch Rickey in the opening round, winning 1,235-29.

Jerry Lucas: The pride of Middletown Ohio holds the distinction of earning a prep state championship, an NCAA championship, an Olympic gold medal and an NBA championship.

Lucas, who has a veritable computer for a brain, was named to the NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team and is a member of the Basketball Hall of Fame.

In round one, Lucas topped No. 9 Ken Griffey Jr., capturing 66% of the vote to advance.

#4 Woody Hayes vs. #5 Jim Tressel

Woody Hayes: More than 30 years after coaching his final game, Wayne Woodrow Hayes is still the face of Ohio State football for many.

In his 29 seasons with the Buckeyes, he went 205-61-10, collecting national championships in 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968 and 1970. Hayes was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 1983.

Hayes absolutely clobbered No. 13 Roger Staubach in the first round, collecting 98% of the vote.

Jim Tressel: Tressel made a name for himself rolling teams in FCS, then known as Division I-AA, while the head coach at Youngstown State. In his 15 seasons at YSU, he won 135 games and four national titles.

In 2001, he took over for John Cooper at Ohio State and won game after game, to the tune of 106 victories in his 10 seasons in Columbus. Tressel won the school's first national championship in 34 years with a classic overtime win over Miami in 2003 and was particularly effective against the Michigan Wolverines, going 9-1.

In a classic 12/5 upset, Jim Tressel knocked off Pete Rose 786-474 to move into the second round.

#3 Paul Brown vs. #11 Archie Griffin

Paul Brown: Born in Norwalk, Ohio, Brown built a juggernaut at Massillon Washington High School before getting the call to take over at Ohio State. He spent three seasons in Columbus, winning the school's first national championship in 1942.

In 1945, Brown took over the Cleveland franchise of the All-America Football Conference and the team took on his name and winning ways, collecting four league titles and three more NFL championships after the merger.

Brown had no trouble with No. 14 and fellow coach Don Shula in the first round, raking in 94% of the vote to advance.

Archie Griffin: The only two-time winner of the Heisman Trophy, Archie Griffin was born and grew up in Columbus before making his way to Ohio State.

He would conclude his career as the NCAA's all-time rushing king with a 5,589 yards and also became one of only two players to start in four Rose Bowl games.

No. 6 LeBron James was no match for Archie Griffin (on an Ohio State website, at least) in the opener as he scored a 975-284 upset to move on.

#2 Jack Nicklaus vs. #7 Cy Young

Jack Nicklaus: "The Golden Bear" won the first of five straight Ohio State Junior titles at the age of 12 and then, for the next four decades of his life, he kept winning and winning.

Nicklaus won the U.S. Amateur twice, an NCAA Championship and 18 majors – including a record six Masters championships – during a long a hall of fame PGA Tour career.

Nicklaus made quick work of No. 15 Buster Douglas in the opener, hauling in 97% of the vote to move on.

Cy Young: In 21 seasons as a Major League pitcher, Cy Young threw harder, longer and better than anyone then or since. He holds MLB records for wins (511), complete games (749), starts (815) and consecutive hitless innings pitched (25⅓) among many others.

He entered Cooperstown on the second ballot, was named to Major League Baseball's All-Century Team, and is honored with his name on the award given to the top pitchers in each league to this day.

Young knocked off No. 10 Bobby Knight in the first round, 809-444.



collards's picture

Archie had a great career, but Brown changed football forever and won as many NC's at tOSU as Tress did. I hope the younger voters will look up what Brown did.  The game we see today is from Brown including the west coast offense which should be called the Cincy offense designed for ken Anderson.


Archie won 2 trophies, but Paul Brown was the most influential man ever in football. He recommended Lombardi to the Packers and Landry to the cowboys. Offseason workouts, playbooks,nose guards, t formation, film study, coaches calling every play through messenger guards and many other things. He put Massilon on the map, won a NC at tOSU and started 2 pro teams.


Paul Brown is modern day football.


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TMac's picture

It's early, but I assume the vote here will be determined by Archie and tOSU being inseparable over actual football contribution. 

ONE Not Done!

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BGBOY's picture

Plus, Paul Brown has a stadium and an NFL team named after him. 



You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish.

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Abe Froman's picture

One NFL team named after him as well as founding another (Cincy).  Definitely influential to the sport at multiple levels.

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

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ab1993's picture

Well, Archie had a ballroom in the Union named after him...

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Oyster's picture

Don't forget an animated family also.

FitzBuck is clearly the winner.  Not even close.

NitroBuck's picture

You missed one Brown innovation that comes up every year at recruiting and combine time.  Brown thought it would be good to see how fast guys can run 40 yards, as that is the typical length of a punt.  

Ferio.  Tego.

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KBonay's picture

Paul Brown is a legend.  Mike Brown, however, is the opposite of awesome.  And I fear the lack of support for Paul might be the disdain for his son Mike. Not saying it's  right.  But might explain why his numbers are this low.

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spqr2008's picture

Yes that's all true. However, he also raised Mike Brown.

NorthernOhioBuckeye's picture

That was a tough pick, but I have to agree with you. Paul Brown is probably the single most important football person of all time. He basically revolutionized the sport. 

Archie was a great college back and one heck of an ambassador's for tOSU. However, his accomplishments pale in comparison the Paul Brown.

AndyVance's picture

As with the Paul Brown vote, I fear the Jesse/Jerry contest will not be as close as it should. Owens should almost certainly win, but Jerry Lucas is one of the most successful basketball players in history, and you would be hard pressed not to name him the top Basketbuck ever.

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BHT's picture

Agreed. Lucas won the first and ONLY national championship for the men's basketball team. Owens is just awesome. As of 11:05 am EDT, Owens is winning in a landslide, but I think it should be closer. I voted for Owens, but this is a hard vote. I had the same trouble with Woody Hayes and Jim Tressel, but of course, I voted for Hayes.

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NorthernOhioBuckeye's picture


You said everything I was thinking on this subject.

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Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

It shouldn't be close.

Jesse Owens transcends sports, his performance changed the perception of people around the world.

How many Ohioans have streets named after them...in Berlin?


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AndyVance's picture

Yes, perhaps I could have phrased that differently... My point was not to slight the incomparable Jesse Owens, but rather to express my profound respect for the great Jerry Lucas. Your point is well made.

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Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

I understand and I didn't see it as a slight. Jerry Lucas has been a great ambassador for Ohio State Buckeyes should be proud of his accomplishments.

My answer would have been the same if Owens were up against Magic, Jordan, Bird or Kareem. There are just some athletes whose accomplishment go far beyond their athletic importance.

Muhammad Ali, Jackie Robinson, Billie Jean King...

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RedStorm45's picture

Havlicek had a better pro career.

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collards's picture

Jesse was a world known historical figure. I was a Royals fan so I just loved Jerry growing up. It is just like Tress vs. Pete Rose. I live in NJ and I asked two peers of mine who are both faculty at a college this question. They both could care little, if anything, about sports, but they both had heard of Rose and neither of themTress. Only at tOSU would Tress beat Rose. That would go for Luke beating Jesse.


I am really hating this poll as great native Buckeyes are getting slighted. Everyone of the people here are winners. 


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TMac's picture

It would be interesting to see a similar poll from the Cincinnati Enquirer or the Cleveland Plain Dealer (Away from tOSU and Columbus connections).  In this round & section I think only the Paul Brown/Archie outcome changes....

ONE Not Done!

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Bucksfan's picture

I just want to remind the voters that Paul Brown built the only true dynasty that professional football has ever seen, and there wouldn't be a Chuck Knoll or a Bill Walsh without him.  And the stats on Paul Brown need to be corrected.  He won "4 additional league titles," not 3.  The first 7 out of 8 were won within 10 years of the first.  He also started the Cincinnati Bengals, and coached them to a Super Bowl in 1982 (for comparison, Archie Griffin was on that team, but was rather ineffective as a backup).  He also saw them go one more time as an owner.

If we're going to be comparing statistics, at least give Paul Brown his due against Archie's numbers.  Ohio football is what it is because of Paul Brown, not Archie Griffin.

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Oyster's picture

Forrest Gregg would disagree with your Super Bowl statement.

FitzBuck is clearly the winner.  Not even close.

collards's picture

There would be no Don Shula without Brown as well. 

Tmac - There is no way that a Cincinnati Enquirer poll would have Jim Tressel over Pete Rose.


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collards's picture

Nitro - I also didn't mention that Paul Brown did IQ tests first and had full time assistants.


Knarcisi's picture

Who did these seedlings?  Woody and JT a 2nd round matchup?  LOL. 

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PittBuckeye's picture

I love Jimmy T, but that's not a hard vote right there.

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Young_Turk's picture

I love Jimmy T as well, but disagree about it not be hard.  It was very difficult (emotionally).  


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el duderino's picture

I agree! I voted Woody (as most people evidently have), but mostly on the strength of the "without X there would be no Y" argument.

And because of Tre$$el's dirty no-good cheatin' ways.

"This is a very complicated case: a lot of ins, lot of outs, lot of what-have-yous."

BuckFly's picture

Can someone please explain why Cy Young was elected to the HOF on the 2nd ballot?  

Jason Priestas's picture

It's kind of misleading b/c while Young was a second ballot guy, he was part of the second class to enter the Hall of Fame. The first class, in 1936, consisted of the guys that were perceived to be more worthy at the time: Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Babe Ruth and Honus Wagner.

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Wow, this was a painful voting session for me, other than maybe my vote for the Golden Bear (over one of the greatest baseball players in the history of the sport).  Huge fan of Jerry Lucas, but Jesse Owens is in my mind is the all time greatest Ohio athlete.  Love Coach Tress but could not in good conscience vote for him over Woody.  I probably SHOULD have voted for Paul Brown over Archie, but on that one I did go with my heart, not my brain.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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Crumb's picture

Being from Middletown I had to give Jerry Lucas a little love cause he's getting smashed by Jesse Owens. We all love Jesse because Hitler sucks @$$ and Owens stuck it to him. Every time I walk by Owens statue it makes me proud to be an American and a Buckeye.


"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

Article says Woody won a title in 1970 and Tressel won first title at OSU in 34 years. Discuss.

Yeti's have feelings too.

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Joe Beale's picture

That 1970 title is disputed because OSU lost to Stanford in the Rose Bowl and AP named Nebraska #1.  Had they held on to defeat Stanford the Bucks would certainly have won it all, but they choked it away in the 4th quarter.

Go1Bucks's picture

Woody, Jerry, Archie and Jack. Buckeyes all x2.


Go Bucks! 

Go Bucks!

dlb72osu's picture

Agree so strongly with the pro-Brown voters here, however can understand why the huge up vote for Archie. Archie is probably the best ambassador OSU has ever had from the gridiron whereas Paul Brown was one of the true innovators of football at all levels. Voters from around the state, primarily the Cleveland and Cincinnati areas, would just crush Archie in this vote. However on a Buckeye site like 11W it is pretty much our heart that speaks loudest.

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.

- Invictus

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Joe Beale's picture

Archie vs. Paul Brown....how can you do this to me?

RedStorm45's picture

You can change your vote, right?  I went with my heart (Archie) first, then went back and used my head (Brown).  It looks like my vote was changed.