Ohio State Releases Depth Chart for Navy Game

By Patrick Maks on August 27, 2014 at 1:09p
Ohio State released the depth chart for Navy Tuesday evening.

After a longer than usual delay, Ohio State released the depth chart for the opener against Navy today. 

And as expected, the word "or" is featured prominently. There is a bevy of positions listed with an "or" asterisk.

  • Billy Price or Joel Hale will start at left guard. Price, a redshirt freshman, is a self-proclaimed workout warrior and Hale, a senior, moved over from the defensive line to help offensive line coach Ed Warinner's new-look crew out. 
  • Jacoby Boren or Chad Lindsay at center. Boren is the little brother of former Buckeye standouts Justin and Zach Boren and Lindsay is a graduate transfer from Alabama. 
  • Ezekiel Elliott or Rod Smith or Curtis Samuel at running back. Elliott appeared to come into camp with the inside track for the starting job but wrist surgery a couple weeks ago might've slowed his momentum. On top of that, Meyer said Rod Smith impressed him during training camp and told ESPN in late July that Samuel had "stolen his heart." Notably, Bri'onte Dunn and Warren Ball did not make the depth char. Dunn, like Smith, garnered Meyer's affections during camp, so I'd be curious to see what happened between now and last week. Ball battled a foot injury early in camp and, according to Meyer, has missed the last few practices with a concussion.
  • Dontre Wilson or Jalin Marshall at H-B. Both will see the field and both will make plays for Ohio State. I think this is Wilson's job, but Marshall should give the Buckeyes another much-needed weapon in the absence of Braxton Miller. 
  • Michael Bennett or Tommy Schutt at defensive tackle. 
  • Gareon Conley or Eli Apple at corner back.
  • Cam Burrows or Vonn Bell at safety.

As a whole, the depth chart doesn't really tell us anything we didn't already know, meaning, the all the "or"s are to be expected. Head coach Urban Meyer has been hesitant to name starters at left guard, center, cornerback and wide receiver and it looks like they've decided to throw a handful of guys into the fire against Navy. Sink or swim, I guess. 

The most interesting things to be gleaned are:

  • The whole Michael Bennett-or-Tommy Schutt situation. Bennett's a captain and been named to a handful of preseason award watch-lists so I'm honestly surprised he wasn't a clear-cut starter. Schutt, though, has apparently done enough to make a very real push at securing a full-time job on the defensive line. After all, Meyer did call the junior the "most improved player" at Ohio State. That, or Bennett could be dealing with injuries that hampered him at times during the 2013 season. 
  • The Vonn Bell-Cam Burrows battle is interesting, too. After starting in the Orange Bowl, it seemed like Bell would be a lock for a starting job on a defense in need of new faces and new personalities. Heck, a lot of people thought Bell should've seen more playing time than he did last season. So, the fact he's still fighting for a starting job this year is interesting. 
  • Not really surprised by Eli Apple-or-Gareon Conley at cornerback. I think Doran Grant's a strong cut above both of them, but Apple and Conley seem relatively interchangeable at this point. Meyer said neither had really separated themselves from the pack, so it makes sense that we'll see both come Saturday. 
Offense Defense
LT   68 TAYLOR DECKER 6-7 315 JR   DE   97 JOEY BOSA 6-6 275 SO
    73 ANTONIO UNDERWOOD 6-3 303 JR       59 TYQUAN LEWIS 6-3 260 FR
LG   54 BILLY PRICE 6-4 312 FR   NG   92 A. WASHINGTON 6-4 295 JR
  OR 51 JOEL HALE 6-4 310 SR       52 DONOVAN MUNGER 6-4 300 FR
C   50 JACOBY BOREN 6-1 285 JR   DT   63 MICHAEL BENNETT 6-2 288 SR
  OR 56 CHAD LINDSAY 6-2 302 SR     OR 90 TOMMY SCHUTT 6-2 295 JR
                    77 MICHAEL HILL 6-2 305 FR
RG   65 PAT ELFLEIN 6-3 300 SO   VIPER   88 STEVE MILLER 6-3 255 SR
    75 EVAN LISLE 6-6 300 FR       17 RASHAD FRAZIER 6-4 272 SR
RT   76 DARRYL BALDWIN 6-6 307 SR   LB   43 DARRON LEE 6-2 228 SO
    57 CHASE FARRIS 6-4 300 JR       35 CHRIS WORLEY 6-2 222 FR
                    38 CRAIG FADA 6-0 233 JR
TE   86 JEFF HEUERMAN 6-5 255 SR   MLB   14 CURTIS GRANT 6-3 238 SR
    81 NICK VANNETT 6-6 260 JR       5 RAEKWON McMILLAN 6-2 240 FR
                    55 CAM WILLIAMS 6-1 228 JR
WR   6 EVAN SPENCER 6-2 208 SR   SLB   37 JOSHUA PERRY 6-4 252 JR
    84 COREY SMITH 6-1 180 JR       33 DANTE BOOKER 6-2 233 FR
    1 JOHNNIE DIXON 5-11 198 FR                
QB   16 J.T. BARRETT 6-1 225 FR   CB   19 GAREON CONLEY 6-0 190 FR
    12 CARDALE JONES 6-5 250 SO     OR 13 ELI APPLE 6-1 198 FR
RB   15 EZEKIEL ELLIOTT 6-0 225 SO   SAF   23 TYVIS POWELL 6-3 208 SO
  OR 7 ROD SMITH 6-3 231 SR       20 RON TANNER 6-0 205 JR
  OR 4 CURTIS SAMUEL 5-11 196 FR       1 ERICK SMITH 6-0 198 FR
H-B   2 DONTRE WILSON 5-10 188 SO   SAF   16 CAM BURROWS 6-0 210 SO
  OR 17 JALIN MARSHALL 5-11 205 FR     OR 11 VONN BELL 5-11 200 SO
WR   9 DEVIN SMITH 6-1 199 SR   CB   12 DORAN GRANT 5-11 196 SR
    3 MICHAEL THOMAS 6-3 203 SO       26 ARMANI REEVES 5-10 198 JR
    89 JEFF GREENE 6-5 220 JR                
                NICKEL   26 ARMANI REEVES 5-10 198 JR
Special Teams
    39 KYLE CLINTON 6-1 218 SR       15 LUKE MORGAN 6-2 225 SO
P   95 CAMERON JOHNSTON 6-0 195 SO   PR   2 DONTRE WILSON 5-10 188 SO
    96 SEAN NUERNBERGER 6-1 230 FR       17 JALIN MARSHALL 5-11 205 FR
LS   41 BRYCE HAYNES 6-4 220 JR   KR   2 DONTRE WILSON 5-10 188 SO
                    17 JALIN MARSHALL 5-11 205 FR


BuckNutzGasMan's picture

Dantre is 6-6" 315!! WTF?? Guy must have done more than lift weights.

Furious George 27's picture

Beast Mode!

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

fontanabuck's picture

Is there something I'm missing as to why Bennett is listed as OR with Schutt? I just wasn't expecting that

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AndyVance's picture

Wondering the same thing... Big surprise.

BrutusB's picture

Just posted about this below.  I thought the Viper was more up in the air than the DT.

Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

Meyer mentioned Tommy Schutt as one of the most improved players on the team. I think it's a good thing and means both guys will play a lot, especially against running teams.

GVerrilli92's picture

I think this is much more of a testament to how good Tommy Schutt is, rather than a daunting predicament for Bennett. 

Bennett is a captain and a leader, Meyer isn't testing him, Urb is just recognizing outstanding effort by Tommy. He probably would avoid this kind of controversy if Bennett wasn't the mature talent he is. But this isn't a bad "OR" by any means. I think the same could be said about Jalin Marshall sharing the position with Dontre and the 3 RBs being even. 

Urban is sending a message that the only sure way to receive more playing time is to produce when your number is called.

Damn this is gonna be a fun team to watch. 

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teddyballgame's picture

Bennett probably isn't surprised.  During the B1G media days, he said that Schutt was playing amazing and really pushing him all through camps. 

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blcklavender's picture

Dontre Wilson is a Junior and 315 pounds?? WOWZERS!!!

TheChase's picture

Dontre Wilson must have blown up

Listed as 6-6, 315 and a Junior

UFest57's picture

Dontre Marshall or Jalin Marshall at H-B.

Dontre Marshall...I'd LOVE to see that hybrid!! 

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VarsityClubMD's picture



Dot this

Yenots11's picture

Well... i noticed Dontre Wilson at the same time as everyone else...i retract my statement with this edit and give you a gif instead:

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BrooklynBuckeye's picture

It appears the first name in the OR scenarios probably has a slight edge: EzE, Dontre, and Mikhael Benoit were all assumed to be starters. So Price, Boren, Burrows, and Conley may have the tiniest leg up on their counterparts.

BrutusB's picture

The ORs really take the excitement out of who won the battles, guess we'll just have to count playing time on Saturday or (God forbid) who's in in close situation in the 4th.

EDIT: Also, just noticed that Tommy Schutt was listed as a possible starter.  Given that Bennett is a senior, projected top 10 draft pick and voted a team captain a few days ago, I rate the chance of that happening somewhere in the 0% range

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SafetyGuy's picture

15 Freshman on the 2-deep! Exciting times now and into the future for all Buckeye fans!


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ColdBuckeye's picture

not including the kicker 

ChicagoBuckeye10's picture

"Dontre Marshall"....? I WISH.

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Buckataltitude's picture

So, is Dontre Marshall a product of Beth Mowens writing this?

If so, where the heck is Rod Jones at?

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BuckeyeSouth's picture

Cam Burrows OR Vonn Bell?  I thought Bell was getting the start?

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NeilAve's picture

that was my biggest surprise also. i thought bell had that locked up?

DefendYoungstown's picture

Does there come a time and point were too much competition is just that, TOO F'ING MUCH????  How can you not know at this point who the starter is?  At some point you need to reward a kid by letting him know he has won the starting position.  Maybe this was common practice at florida as well, anybody know?  

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Lincoln Linworth's picture

That one and the Bennett OR Schutt were both shocking.  Assuming that the first person listed is the one who will start, then Bennett being listed first is a little less of a shock, but I would've never guessed Burrows would start over Bell.

woodi19's picture

I completely agree on the shock.  It looks like every other position the "OR" guy that is listed first will be the starter.  Seems like Cam Burrows will start over Vonn.  Shocked, injury time related I assume?

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cdub4's picture

Cam Burrows was a top 100 elite recruit and has NFL potential. Excerpt cover skills and weighs about 210

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Dmac3212's picture

Just out played I assume. He had plenty of time to win back his spot after his spring injury. 

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hardkorethree's picture

I thought Vonn would be the starter, but I wouldn't say I am shocked.  We don't really know who will get the majority of playing time either.  Cam Burrows like mentioned isn't some scrub either.  Very highly regarded recruit.

xenocide78's picture

Jalin Marshall+Dontre Wilson returning kicks? I love it. You can't kick away from all the speed.

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BrutusB's picture

Speaking of special teams, looks like Johnstons gonna hold, which answers the which-QB question.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

I'm waiting for the fake FG run by Johnston.  I'm also waiting for the fake Punt run by Johnston.  You know one of these will happen this year...

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Zimmy07's picture

I forgot he probably grew up playing rugby or AFL football.  I was confused as to why they'd put a punter as a holder.  A rugby style 2 point play w/ a couple of pitches to speed guys would crack me up.  Provided it worked.

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InTressITrust's picture

I know Tressel did this some.  Groom in 02 comes to mind.

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OSUBias's picture

If it's anything like his first effort last year...it's not gonna be pretty. I think it was NW. Let's just say he lacks vision, grace, and top end speed. Other than that, it was perfect.

Shitter's full

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Marshall Trucker's picture

That's what stood out to me. Can't wait!

KevinJ's picture

Saturday can't get here soon enough.

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BucksfanXC's picture

Keep those guys with ORs hungry. It gives them the honor of being listed up there, but only one person is gonna be out there for the first snap.

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FROMTHE18's picture

Fraizer had a big spring game didn't he?

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Bucksfan70's picture

yeah. he pretty much dominated.

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bukyze's picture

Urban is probably just playing mind games with the players, keeping them motivated and hungry for a starting spot.   For UFM, it's always a competition.

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ibuck's picture

It's not just the players' minds he's playing with.  I don't think Meyer likes the idea of depth chart, or even THE starter.

But if all these maneuvers keep the Buckeyes from thinking they can coast through the last several minutes (or quarters) of a game, I'm all for it.  Like my tag line says.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

Toilrt Paper's picture

It took a three hour coaches meeting to come up with the depth chart.

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MauricXe's picture

i expected brionte dunn to crack the starting lineup. :(

i hope he gets some playing time

i'm also interested to see what happens with vonn bell and burrows. i really like both of them and i'm surprised they are listed as OR. why is armani listed for both star and corner without an OR? I would expect bell or burrows could handle that position.

bennet and schutt listed as OR is probably the most surprising.

Poison nuts's picture

I read the RB depth as Zeke or Smith, or Samuel will start. They only have they 3 spots available to print names on the roster, but I believe Dunn will see the field.

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crusher's picture

The thing that surprised me most that Munger was listed on the two deep and Carter wasn't. I was hoping for big things out of Carter but I give Munger big time credit for busting his ass and earning it.

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Bucksfan70's picture

same here.

gratz to munger!

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NYC Buckeye's picture

So this basically answers nothing... every position with a battle for the starting spot has not been resolved in time for the opener..  and Michael Bennet has not solidified his starting spot?  Did someone tell the AP All-American watch list??  

Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

Darron Lee locked down his spot. Nurenberger did the same. So some positions settled themselves. Others will keep battling into the season, which is a good thing.

Meyer said Schutt was one of the most improved players on the team.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

W E don't deserve answers. We obviously can't handle the truth. :)

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Barnsey69's picture

Few surprises here, but Bennett/Schutt and Dante Booker in the 2 deep are pretty unexpected me thinks. Regardless, what a freakin roster!


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bakerjon's picture

And Sean Nuernberger starts his Heisman campaign!

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BeatTTUN's picture

Dudes if Micheal Bennett is considered an NFL 1st round pick and he is considered an OR with Tommy Schutt all I can say to opposing Offensive Lines is

"Y'all got problems"

Go Buckeyes Beat Michigan

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Bucksfan70's picture

lol no doubt! that's a great "problem" for us to have!


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RuGettinIt's picture

Lots of guys are going to see the field Saturday is what I expect and this just reflects it.  I gotta believe Raekwon and Vonn will see the field more than a little...

bakerjon's picture

Any word on Armani Reeves fall from grace?  He was leading as the corner opposite Grant for several weeks, and suddenly the younger guys took over.  Wondering what happened.  Not saying it was a bad thing, just curious

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BuckeyeSouth's picture

He's the starting Nickel so he'll see a lot of playing time.

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BrutusB's picture

Not this week he wont.  Navy averages about 7 passes a game, I'd expect eight guys in the box most of the time.

Bucksfan70's picture

he doesn't have the recovery speed (second gear) to run down field and challenge the guy he is covering, but he's a hard hitter.

IMO he will only be in the game against speed deficient opponents that he can match up against and smith or bell takes his spot in the big games where there is more talent on the other side of the ball.

“Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can accomplish what others can't.” - Jerry Rice

ibuck's picture

Armani Reeves fall from grace? 

New coach (Ash) probably means nothing is given, best players play.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

Toilrt Paper's picture

Takes top secret clearance to know.

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jamesrbrown322's picture

Anyone else happy to Dante Booker on the 2 deep?

I think that A LOT of players of player will see action in the Navy game. There is still some "feeling out" going on, which could lead to some necessary baptism by fire for some of our recruits. This reminds me of 1996 and 2008 a lot. We'll see what happens from here, but damn do I feel really good about our future!

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Bucksfan70's picture

yeah. i'm definitely excited to see anyone new in the group of linebackers on the depth chart.

“Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can accomplish what others can't.” - Jerry Rice

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analyticalguy's picture

Three biggest surprises:

1) That there are so many "ORs." I would have thought things would be a little more settled.  Basically every posiion that was undecided a week ago is still undecided.

2) Schutt or Bennett at DT..  No knock on Schutt, but could this mean that Bennett has a health issue we're unaware of?

3) Johnton as holder.  Given that you want to be able to fake the kick (a la last year's "swnging gate"), isn't it more typical to have a quarterback or at least someone counted on to be able to run the ball (Jalin Marchall perhaps) in that position.  Either Urban is writing off that possibility, or intends to telegraph it with a subsitution... unless the Aussie has shown something that allows him to play that role.  Interesting, but not likely to have an impact on theoutcome of this game.

Bucksfan70's picture

i think he has a problem with his left arm that might never go away, but it's healthy this year as opposed to last year when he couldn't lift because of it. also maybe consioder the fact that we're playing navy and schutt might be a better "hogger" type run stopper than bennett. 

there's probably a package for each of these guys to get involved in the game plan depending on the down, their skill set and what the game plan is according to how they match up with the opponent that week.

EDIT: also maybe they have a competition going on in the game to see who separates himself from the other guy in an actual game.

“Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can accomplish what others can't.” - Jerry Rice

alust2013's picture

I'm guessing that Johnston is pretty quick, so he could probably run. I doubt we will see much of that type of fake field goal anyhow, they're pretty low odds to make.

I'm fairly surprised with Trey Johnson missing the 2-deep.

...and Michigan still sucks.

Toilrt Paper's picture

I hope there is not a need for any fakery this year. Play all of the silly games you want when up by 30  in the 4th.

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Buckeye1004's picture

Johnston played Rugby!   I am calling it now.  A RUGBY first down on a fake kick! 

Jpfbuck's picture

Not a rugby player but Aussie Rules football not nearly the same level of physicality as rugby, more like constant punting to a team mate

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Bucksfan70's picture

burrows must have really brought the heat in camp. 

deion sanders said some nice things about him awhile back, can't wait to see him in action!

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1MechEng's picture

Cleveland Browns QB tryouts?!

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

That's like, the worst video of all time!!

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TheBadOwl's picture

Oh like you could possibly know that, Napoleon.

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Wanna see me throw this football over them mountains?

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whiskeyjuice's picture

How about I knock someone off their bike by hitting them with a steak to the face?

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whiskeyjuice's picture

"Championships are not won on Saturdays in November. Championships are won on Tuesdays in August." -- Kerry Combs

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bassplayer7770's picture

Most of the "or" designations weren't surprising, but nice to see some young talent on the two deep.  Those young guys could definitely see some time in the first few games if things get a little out of hand.  Cannot wait until Saturday...

3GB's picture

I think we're going to start seeing the fruits of our high level recruiting this year.  There's a lot of talent on this team and the coaches don't want to waste it on the bench.  Lots of ORs could actually be a good thing now.

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This is a reach but I think the 'or' for Tommy Schutt v Michael Bennett is depending on what defensive formation they may start with or go with for this game in my mind.  Of course it doesn't apply consistently to the offense since we are likely not seeing a diamond formation in the backfield as our start for the offense... Or will it?!!! 

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I have to say without a doubt, the most exciting line of that whole DC is seeing Jalin Marshall as an OR for Dontre Wilson at the H position.  I think that kid is going to be dynamite.  LET'S GO BUCKS!!

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AJBor41's picture

The link shows Darron Lee as a Freshman. Was he granted a redshirt?

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Stoked that Dante Booker made the two deep, a little surprised, is Burrows starting over Bell?  Them being an "or" is surprising, I know Bell had injuries, but I thought he was active in the whole fall camp?

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saltybuck61's picture

Bell was active through the whole camp. The "or" in their position is just that, there is still a competition going on. Coach Meyer has stated numerous times this summer that Burrows and Bell were neck and neck at the position.

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Brutus1972's picture

I'm not really surprised by the "or" designations especially with the D-line where we know there will be many participants in the rotation and the DB's because of the insane amount of young talent. However, if there is one place I didn't want to see an "or" it is the Offensive Line. I have confidence in the man coaching them but I'm not sold that the talent for an elite OL is currently on campus. I pray they prove me wrong. There's nowhere on the football field where it is more important to operate as a unit than the OL. If we still have "or" then it certainly doesn't inspire my confidence that they have found 5 men to gel together as a unit at this point. I'm rooting for them but I have to admit that the OL is my biggest area of concern.

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Don't worry, Warriner has got it under control. If there is anyone on the coaching staff that I do not question anything he does - it is him. Those boys will be nasty. That is a well coached unit. ;-)

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OSUFlash's picture

I like the Billy Price move as a starter and the shocker for me is not seeing Bri'onte Dunn any where.


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Calgarybuck's picture

Schutt is just heating up! I don't see a drop off in our D-line at all, were in for a treat the next few years, BTW nobody has mentioned this, Trey Johnson isn't even on the depth chart and Booker is @233 wowza! that's scary

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Buckeye1004's picture

I know I'm repeating myself from my reply above to ALUST2013 but I have to say it again.........I can't wait to see Cameron Johnston pull up and make a RUGBY style first down on a fake kick! 

CC's picture

I hope he learned how to read blocks in the offseason because this didn't work so well last year.

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It will be interesting to see what the depth chart looks like at the end of the season then compare it to this one. I bet even next week's depth chart is different. If that's the case our depth must be crazy.

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ScarletNGrey01's picture

So is the correct conjunction OR or could it be AND?

P.S. I thought Vannett was starting at TE due to Heurman having an injury?

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

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Springslips's picture

Sure it could be 'and' if we want our first play to be flagged, too many players on the field. 

ScarletNGrey01's picture

Well played sir.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

willshire58's picture

My opinion on the -OR-s on the offensive line is that you let the younger guys get the first crack at it. It's more beneficial to get them the experience for future years. If the younger guys struggle, then by all means let the seniors give it a try.

CC's picture

I totally agree.  The snaps they get will be carried over until next year, where the older guys walk away.  Obviously this is only if there is a tie and I know JT disagrees with me and he has 5 national championships to my 0.

UFest57's picture

Trey Johnson...am I missing something? 

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hardkorethree's picture

That was a shocker for me.  I can't imagine his future is looking too bright after not hearing anything from him during spring and fall camps, and he's not even listed in the 2-3 deep at linebacker, while a walk-on linebacker was placed there.  That's why you recruit. A lot of people had high expectations for our 2013 linebacker crew, and now Mitchell has transferred and Johnson's nowhere to be found.

swainpm's picture

Only thing I have heard about him since his arrival was im regards to him showing a lack of effort. If you search the site you should be able to find that line. Darron Lee is gonna surprise some people, he was recruited as an athlete or S and was a 3 star I believe.

ITWASME's picture

Return Twins return?

Nairion's picture

Jeff Green over Clark.....hmmmm...

Bucksfan70's picture

i'm kinda upset i didn't see clark on the 2 deep (bummer). maybe he is still recovering from the ankle injury and doesn't have his burst or full speed back yet??  i don't know.

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Mizzillion's picture

Was hoping Kyle Dodson might do something this year. Not a peep about him all camp.  Injured?   ...or just not cuttin' it.

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Stoicpaisano's picture

Dodson is strictly a tackle.

3/4 Ts listed were here before Kyle signed.

All four Ts have less eligibility remaining. Not worried quite yet.

BDobina's picture

Anyone else surprised that Burrows is ahead of Bell and Conley is ahead of Apple??

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Jpfbuck's picture

well a couple things i take away, the experiment of using Elfien at Center came to nothing but last we heard Lindsay was dinged up and behind Boren, now they are an Or a bit of a surprise there.

Heuerman not having an OR must mean he is essentially 100% ready to go which is good news

Cam Johnston was NOT a rugby player he was Aussie Rules football he just Rugby kicks at times, i am sure he is fit as Aussie Rules requires a ton of running but not likely we will see him plow threw the line like Richie McCaw or Kieran Reid of the All Blacks, as Aussie rules is closer to full time punting while running and not the physical ground game rugby is

lastly like seeing a guy like Craig Fada get some love, an invited walk on in the DC is a great reward for a kid who has busted his tail

as the old boxing ref Mills Lane would say "lets get it on"

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D-Day0043's picture

When you have two or more guys that are good enough to start at nearly half of the positions on the team, that is a damn good problem to have. God forbid if someone goes down, at least there won't be a drop off in play.

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SaltyD0gg's picture

Bennett OR Schutt but not Grant OR McMillan...


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AlwayzABuckeye614's picture

Teams better kick it out the endzone for fear of our 2 return specialist. Wow!! 

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chirobuck's picture

One of the biggest surprises to me was the nickel, I figured it would be burrows or bell, whoever wasn't at the SS and what the heck ever happened to trey Johnson......apparently Booker has passed him up


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Carson's picture

Reminds me of this scene in Disney's Hercules -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju0DoYjHSW0&feature=youtu.be&t=3s (replace "if" with "or")

bafiesta's picture

I find ARMANI REEVES role to be the most interesting.

Usually the Nickle would be the guy who just misses a starting safety position, but Reeves isn't even one of the "OR"s at safety.

Sometimes the Nickle is the guy who just misses on a starting corner position.  But again Reeves isn't even an "OR" there.

Finally with the "Walkout Linebacker" already being a LB/safety hybrid, will we even see the Nickle in the game very often?  Certainly not a lot against Navy.  

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So who's the first team holder?

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osupolo's picture

Can 11w do a recap of whom actually gets the start at each position.  I have a feeling that I will be to excited/amped up when the game starts to notice all the starters especially with so many positions up in the air. I will probably notice a couple of the starers at the "or" positions,  but will be lacking the attention span for all of them. 

whiskeyjuice's picture

Yeah I know for the first couple quarters, I'm gonna be like "ooooooooooohhhhhhh" and "aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh".

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Toilrt Paper's picture

You aren't watching the game?.

Groveport Heisman's picture

At the bottom it says Reeves is starting nickel and back up to Doran Grant. Not sure if this was added later on or people just didnt see it the first time.

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kevdale86's picture

Other than the o-line, does it really matter who starts? The d-line it's going to rotate players in and out all game, same with the secondary depending on the coverage. Starters aren't necessarily guaranteed more playing time. It might be a good problem to have if there isn't a big separation between the 1's and the 2's. There shouldn't be a big drop in production no matter who is playing.

Toilrt Paper's picture

Correct does not matter who starts, What matters is who's on the field at crunch time in the 4th.

ShoeHolder's picture

That's all well and good but who is the starting holder? No one will ever fill Kenny G's shoes. No one. 

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Michael Bennett OR Tommy Schutt???

mtrotb's picture

So much for all the frosh olineman per Urban needing to be ready to play. Be interesting over the course of the year if all five redshirt.


hardkorethree's picture

I know it's not a huge deal, but Jamarco Jones who some were really pegging in the 2 deep at times still has a black stripe if I haven't missed anything.  Can be hard to come in and play right off the bat as a freshman on the o-line.

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SpielmanForPres's picture

Was looking forward to seeing Jalyn Holmes name on there somewhere. Disappointed. 

BuckeyeMike74's picture

"Or" is kind of lame. 

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BucksHave7's picture

PR and KR:   Dontre and Jalin.    Sounds like our return game should be a step up from last year.    Will be nice to hand JT good field position every time.


THEOSUfan's picture

If you are one of the "ors" it's nice to see that you are in position to play, but if you don't play much or at all, it's really meaningless.

In this day and age almost every frosh thinks they should come in and play, if not start, right away - and if they don't, they transfer.  There's some big egos that have to be stroked, and I wonder if the depth chart isn't a way to do that.

If a young player can take some time and transform his body, learn the fine details of his position, and wait his turn, that usually pays off more than wanting to play early and bouncing from program to program until they do.

Scarlet_Buckeye's picture

First thing that jumps out to me is... this is a YOUNG team.

Also, if Schutt is really that close to Bennett, then I think I'd rather see DE Bosa, DT Schutt, DT Bennett, DE Washington (bring Miller off the bench)

buckeyepastor's picture

Dontre and Jalin returning kicks.  I LIKE that.   

After the promise he showed last year as a freshman, disappointed to see Trey Johnson not in the two-deep.   In 2013, we signed him and Mitchell as top tier linebackers and the hope was they would both be a big part of the renewal at that position.   Now, one is gone and the other is way down on the depth chart.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

Knarcisi's picture

Not to be negative with the season starting, but Kyle Dodson can't even crack the 2-deep on OL in year 3???

Knarcisi's picture

Thought I would see Carter in the 2-deep at DT.  What a camp Schutt must have had.  And how about Booker cracking the 2-deep?

Look how young our D is!