GIF: Ohio State and Northwestern Scuffle. Kind of.

By Jason Priestas on February 20, 2014 at 12:02a
LaQuinton Ross was ejected for these shoves against Northwestern.
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With Ohio State holding a 20-point lead late in the second half of Wednesday night's game with Northwestern, Buckeye center Amir Williams and Wildcat forward Nikola Cerina danced the baseline tussle leading Cerina to throw – and fail to connect on – a punch.

Ohio State forward LaQuinton Ross rushes in to get his teammate's back, shoving Cerina and Northwestern's Drew Crawford for good measure.

Ross was ejected for his part in the scuffle, as was Cerina. For throwing a punch, Cerina will also have to sit out Northwestern's next game. The statement from Ray Perone, the lead official in the game:

“By rule, No. 45 [Nikola Cerina] for Northwestern after he committed the common foul, a push on No. 23 [Amir Williams], took a swing with a closed fist or closed hand at No. 23 for Ohio State. That act is deemed to be fighting by rule, which is Rule 10, Section 5, Article 8: ‘Any time an individual uses a closed fist in an unsportsmanlike manner it shall be deemed that the individual has initiated a fighting act and be penalized accordingly.’ He does not have to make contact – the fact he swings with a closed fist is deemed to be a fighting act. No. 45 for Northwestern was disqualified for fighting and that carries a penalty (Rule 10, Section 5, Article 11): ‘The first time an individual participates in a fight during the season the individual shall be suspended from participating in the team’s next regular season game.’ No. 10 [LaQuinton Ross] for Ohio State was disqualified for two deadball contact technical fouls, which results in disqualification. No. 10 was not disqualified for fighting and will not be suspended for the next game.”

The moral: If you feel the need to scrap, never punch, always shove.

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Killer nuts's picture

Outside of laquinton I think everyone, players and coaches both, did a great job of not allowing this to escalate. Kudos to Amir especially, it's tough to not respond when a guy takes a swing and nice save by Lenzelle for keeping that guy away at the end 

+5 HS
Killer nuts's picture

Also really nice job by all the guys on the bench to stay there; automatic ejection if they came onto the floor

+1 HS
tussey's picture

With the general lack of emotion/effort shown by Amir, I'm not all that surprised that he didn't swing back...

-2 HS
bucksfan92's picture

I still don't understand how NW stared the whole melee and ended up with 2 more FTs and the ball after the end.  Crafwford shoved Q before Q shoved him and should have also gotten a T.  I also can't believe there was a "fight" in a Northwestern game.  Northwestern??? really?  I guess it is fitting for this bizzare-o year.

+5 HS
TLB's picture

Fouls were 3-2 on that play. Amir 1 and Q 2, their guys 2 fouls.   Therefore they get 2 more shots.

-1 HS
stevebelliseeya's picture

This was me at home

 

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+10 HS
mobboss1984's picture

Good job Amir! He didn't swing back! Well done my friend. 

Always be yourself, express yourself, have faith in yourself, do not go out and look for a successful personality and duplicate it.
Bruce Lee
 

+8 HS
pabdublin78's picture

After he took his swing, Cerina was back pedaling and talking smack at Amir until Q got his attention with that shove and shut him up quick.  Fighting is never condoned and the punishment is stated pretty clearly in the rules, but having been there and close to the action, the game was essentially over and Cerina wanted to take out whatever his frustrations were on Amir and got what he deserved.  For a guy who contributed as little as he did, I wonder what he was thinking.... I'm just glad the team showed good self control overall and Amir didn't throw one in response...

+4 HS
osu07asu10's picture

Haha Ross packs a pretty decent shove...

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

+3 HS
osu07asu10's picture

Edit: The dreaded double post.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

+2 HS
Zimmy07's picture

To me it looked as if Amir was about to start throwing punches until the ref got in his way.  For once he looked like a bad man slowly & calmly walking towards someone who had just swung on him.

What made me upset is that the one time I see Amir have a really good box out & the guy throws a punch at him for doing it.

+4 HS
BHT's picture

~~The moral: If you feel the need to scrap, never punch, always shove.

I will keep that in mind. Next time I feel the need for anger, I will shove not punch. I know Q was just backing up his teammate, but there is no reason to push and shove. Let it go. 

wyatt's picture

Shoving someone in the back is a wuss way of handling things.  

-7 HS
rosycheeks's picture

Of course Amir didn't swing back. That requires emotion and real blood flowing through your veins.

-4 HS
Jason Gruber's picture

 

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Chief B1G Dump's picture
Edit: The dreaded double post.

 

osu07asu10's picture

I don't agree with LQ's action but it sure was nice to see some emotion from him beyond giving bad looks to refs.  This could be a rallying point for the bucks. Glad that LQ won't miss any additional action.

EDIT: The other thing I really don't like is Thad coming off the bench to try and sort things out. With his back, we don't need him getting mixed up in the scrum.

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

+3 HS
Adam21's picture

There is actually a rule in place for NCAA head coaches and no more than one assistant coach (for Ohio High school, it is only the HC - no assistants) to enter the court during a fight/scrum/melee to control his team and allow the referees to sort out the situation. It is a very good rule, which I have seen taken advantage of almost every time (both HS and college) and have never seen the fight escalate with the coach on the court. I understand you are mainly referring to Matta's back, but he did what he had to do.

+2 HS
Killer nuts's picture

I like that Greg Paulus was the first guy onto the floor to try and settle things down. He starts to go for Amir then realizes Laquinton is the bigger problem

+1 HS
d5k's picture

"Settle down Amir, settle.. wTFUU!?!?"

I_Run_The_Dave's picture

I'm sure the fact that NW was called for 6 fouls in the first 5 minutes of the half, including 4 on one possession, didn't at all contribute to Cerina's frustrations.  And the fact that he had been tangled with Amir the entire game and Amir never really being called for anything whatsoever.

But on the play in question, I don't see where Amir committed a foul.  Cerina was pushing him away from the basket and continued out of bounds to where if Amir hadn't pushed back, he would have ran into the cheerleaders and potentially gotten injured.  If you call a double foul on Amir and Cerina for that, ok, so why to both teams get 2 free throws apeice for that?  We were in the double bonus, they weren't even in the bonus, and if I'm not mistaken, usually neither team gets anything on a double foul.  Then the 2 we got for Cerina's flagrant 2 for fighting, yes, that's fine.  And 4 to NW for Q's two technicals, yep, got that one right to.  At least they missed half of theirs, so maybe I can't really complain.  And in the end, Cerina is DQ'd for the next game and Q isn't, so all is right in the world.

+2 HS
d5k's picture

More like "if you feel the need to scrap, learn how to throw open hand strikes to the liver like Bas Rutten" (google Bas Rutten liver shot).

canukeye's picture

I give total props and cred to Q.  You are up by 16 at home and an NU player takes a swing at one of your boys?  Someone needs to be the enforcer.  And he did it without throwing a punch.  That's just sports in my mind.  

 

And kudos to the officiating crew for making the right call.  

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+7 HS
progolfer107's picture

First sign of life in a long time.

+1 HS
JakeBuckeye's picture

It was nice to see the team backing each other up, at least.

+1 HS
BuddhaBuck's picture
Hadouken

 

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JakeBuckeye's picture

And also, the referees were ridiculous about this. How long did it take them to figure this out? And then one end ends up shooting 4 free throws and the other 6. 10 technical free throws? When has that ever happened?

+3 HS
countrybuckeye's picture

Shoulda happened after the "(Walter) Beehagen Stomp" on Luke Witte's face.

 

Jus' sayin' .....

"Momma told me there would be days like this."

Notor's picture

To be honest, I don't mind seeing things like this. Everyone did a pretty good job of keeping their cool, and we just had a little pushing and shoving. Added some color to the game without getting ugly.

That being said, you're always one swing away from a UC-Xavier situation.

Adam21's picture

Let me clear a few things up about this. The commentators last night were wrong when they said 10 technical free throws were shot. Just because a player shoots FT's with no rebounders along the lane does not necessarily make them technical FT's. Amir received a common foul (typical personal foul) for pushing #32 (hence why he shot the last FT's). Ross received two common fouls for shoving #45 and #1 (his second common foul in the dead ball period resulted in his ejection). tOSU fouled on three separate occasions resulting in 6 total FT's for NW. #45 had a common foul on Amir when he shoved him out of bounds. His second foul, which was a flagrant foul, was when he threw a clenched fist at Amir. NW fouled twice resulting in 4 FT's for the Buckeyes. Since tOSU fouled last, NW gets the ball after all FT's are attempted. Even though the ref's took a long time, they got it correct. Technically, there were no "technical" free throws attempted. There were 8 "common foul" free throws and 2 "flagrant foul" free throws.

And no, I'm not a referee. Just a HS coach.

+5 HS
Fowle13's picture

Williams didn't do a thing..northwestern shouldn't have gotten the better end of the deal

+1 HS
Adam21's picture

The gif doesn't show it (it ends right before it happens), but Williams shoves a bystander #32 after it starts to settle down.

TWCBUCKEYE's picture

Nice to see the fight in them. That's the emotion we need to make a run. Nothing brings a team together like a good scrum. You my boy Q (Blue).

"Nothing cleanses your soul like getting the [Mark May] kicked out of you."

Barnsey69's picture

It never surprises me to see these things happen in sports, but timing is everything. Q getting tossed in a beat-down of Northwestern is much different than if this happens at a crucial point in the waning minutes of the B1G championship game or an NCAA game tourney game. Unless your afraid for your own safety, you have to find a way to avoid the situation. Q did not need to shove those guys, especially Crawford. I hear all the "like to see the fire" stuff, just saying different time, circumstance and these comments would have a completely different tone.

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Zimmy07's picture

I don't remember exactly when it was in the game (before or after the melee) but I thought that a Northwestern player intentionally ran over Aaron Craft when Craft set a screen.  You could see him laugh about it afterwards.  It looked to me as if some of the Northwestern players were looking to fight after the game got away from them.

Buckeyebrowny919's picture

That was after. It definitely carried over after that run-in.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

+2 HS
Buckeyebrowny919's picture

While I don't condone what Ross did, I loved seeing a bit of emotion out of him. The dude took a swing at Amir and was completely out of line. Nice to see the team come together with something like that. I was more than impressed with how Williams handled the situation. You can tell for a bit he was trying to legitimately get position and as he started to get pushed out of bounds just kind of latched on (very smart) and not extend his arms or anything to make the situation worse. Sounds weird, but this conflict could go a long way in team building heading into the postseason.

To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Zero problems with what Amir did.  In fact, I'm glad he pushed back - that other guy kept going and going and going on him, and we should all be thankful that all that Amir did was shove him.

Ross, though - that was stupid.  It was basically over at that point.  No need to go around and start shoving people afterwards.

Class of 2010.

+2 HS
Nutbuck1959's picture

i wish Williams and Ross could channel that emotion into a more consistent offensive game.

jaxbuckeye's picture

Williams did nothing wrong.  That stiff from NW had two forearms in his back and shoved him off the court.  What was he supposed to do?  The fact that he was called for a foul and NW ended up shooting more free throws shows that even with replay, B1G officials absolutely SUCK.

+2 HS
Deadly Nuts's picture

lol... Ross is throwing them around like rag-dolls. 

LEBRON

+2 HS
Deadly Nuts's picture

I kinda wish that Cerina would have landed that punch on Williams, just so I could see the reaction..... I think Cerina would be in the hospital.

LEBRON

-1 HS