Hoops Recruiting Notebook: Moyer, Teske and the Plan for 2016

By Mike Young on August 13, 2014 at 2:45p
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Thad Matta and his staff have put together a strong 2015 recruiting class, but it might be hurting their efforts with the following year. 

Within the last week, two of the top Ohio prospects in the class of 2016 committed to schools outside of the state. Jon Teske, a three-star center from Medina, pledged to Michigan, Thursday. Teske was a Buckeye target and received a Buckeye offer in June. 

Teske's AAU coach described him as someone who can develop into a prototypical John Beilein big man. 

"He's definitely athletic enough, can run the floor well enough, he's got a pretty good shot, especially within about 15 feet," Team Work coach Dave Logan told Eleven Warriors, in June. "I'm sure, as he gets a little bit older and stronger, he'll be able to expand that out to the three-point line. He's got a terrific release on the ball." 

Teske attended Michigan camps and never really proclaimed Ohio State as a favorite. That's what makes Gahanna Lincoln forward Matthew Moyer a more interesting case. 

Saturday, Moyer committed to Syracuse. Naturally, because he is from the Columbus area, there is a rush to figure out how he could possibly escape the grasp and lure of the Buckeyes. 

As the four-star recruit told Syracuse.com, his reasoning is fairly fundamental in the world of recruiting.

"I had a whole lot of options, but Syracuse just felt like the perfect place for me. Their style of play fits me," Moyer said. "I have a great relationship with Coach Boeheim and Coach GMac (assistant coach Gerry McNamara)." 

Among the many reasons why Ohio State was unable to cultivate the same sort of relationship with Moyer and his family: scholarship arithmetic. The Buckeyes already have four commitments in the class of 2015. Esa Ahmad and Carlton Bragg remain high-priority recruits, so they could end up with as many as six in that class. 

Even if it stays at four in 2015, Matta only has two scholarships to hand out for 2016. With six, OSU would have none for 2016, excluding transfers and other departures. That gives him limited flexibility for future classes.

Obviously, basketball is not like a football, wherein a guy, say Nick Saban, can come up with a flimsy excuse to free up a scholarship by dismissing or giving out a medical hardship waiver to a five-star bust – that's only theoretical, of course, something like that would never happen.

Meanwhile, Moyer's father, Fred, had some rather harsh comments regarding Ohio State's treatment during his son's recruitment. The Buckeyes offered, but only after Florida, Syracuse and other major programs did the same.

"If he goes somewhere else and he blows up and in a few years he's in the NBA, that looks horrible for them," Fred Moyer told Syracuse.com. "If you're interested, offer him. If you're not, don't offer. It kind of looks like a back-handed compliment. To not show any interest, or have much of any contact, with a kid who lives that close, I mean, come on."

OSU is also loaded with players at Moyer's position, so it's not surprising Moyer and the Buckeyes went in different directions. 

Options for 2016

If looking at direct replacements for losing Teske and Moyer, there are two: center Derek Funderburk Jr. and wing V.J. King. Plus, the Buckeyes have a longer history recruiting both of them.

King is still ranked No. 1 in 247Sports' Composite Ohio Rankings, although he is transferring to Paul VI in Fairfax, Virginia. No. 2 is another OSU target, Omari Spellman, but he too is transferring – to MacDuffie School in Granby, Massachusetts. Funderburk is No. 3 and he remains at St. Edward in Lakewood.

Currently, King is competing with Team USA U17 in Dubai, and games are sporadically airing on ESPNU.

Nike Global Challenge

In other amateur competition, Buckeye commits Daniel Giddens, Austin Grandstaff and A.J. Harris – as well as the undecided Ahmad – are at the Nike Global Challenge in Chicago.

The four-day event begins today and features some of the top prep talent from the United States, Canada, Brazil, China and Africa. American players are divided among four teams. Grandstaff is on USA West, Ahmad is on USA Midwest, while both Giddens and Harris team up before they become Buckeyes, and will play for USA South.

D1Circuit.com, in association with HighSchoolCube.com, will broadcast the games. Keep an eye on the upcoming game schedule

Elsewhere Around The B1G

Another Ohioan is headed out of state to play college ball.

Ahmad Wagner, a three-star recruit in the class of 2015, is headed to Iowa. The Wayne High School forward committed to the Hawkeyes over offers from Minnesota and Texas Tech, among others. 

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dubjayfootball90's picture

The future is bright with the Basketbucks, and this year should prove it, but would you believe there is cause for concern, especially if 2016 results in 2,1 or 0 scholarships going out because of 2015 numbers? I mean, if that is the case, then 2015 is going to be sporting some extreme studs, but after a few years, then the scholarship offers will go crazy when 2015 players are finished. but some may leave early and even out the numbers if they make it to the NBA quicker. Man, basketball recruiting confuses me much mroe than football recruiting, that si for sure.

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

36buck's picture

Who knows how those two pan out but I don't see any major loss there.  

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Hayze's picture

Moyer didn't even let the ink dry on our offer before committing to Syracuse. Looks (and sounds with his dad's comments) like he did it out of spite.

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TLeeUpInThisJ's picture

It looks like OSU has a serious scholarship crunch for 2016. There are some GOOD players in Ohio that are interested in Ohio State; can you imagine Ohio State having to turn away VJ King, Omari Spellman or Derek Funderburke? All three of those guys are the type of talents that could potentially be the gem of any recruiting class, and the crystal ball predictions for all of them are for OSU (albeit it’s still EARLY). That just goes to show why OSU didn’t show much interest in Moyer, a very good player in his own right.

I think Bragg ends up going to Kansas or Kentucky, which is fine. I still want to land Esa Ahmad if he wants to come to Columbus, but if not it looks like that’ll open up a spot for someone else in 2016 that’ll be an impact player.

I sure hope we don’t have to turn away a player that is top 50 in his class b/c we don’t have an open scholarship. It’s a good problem to have. It’s amazing where Thad Matta has taken this program. Big thumps up to Thad.

ITWASME's picture

That's only assuming everyone stays until then which PROBABLY will not happen. We'll have space

jaxbuckeye's picture

Sounds like someone's father is a real class act.  How DARE THEY not think as highly of your son as you do....the nerve of tOSU. 

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MauricXe's picture

I don't fault him for his comments. I also agree with him and happy he said it.

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jaxbuckeye's picture

That's your right. Most of us would focus on our appreciation of the offers to our son, not the perceived slight. All he's done it publicized his disappointment. What's the point, other than to make yourself look petty or seem like a hovering parent. 

My God, the kid got offers others dream of getting. 

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robobuck's picture

This a billion

Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it.  1 Corinthians 9:24

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

I liked Moyer's film, but I agree with the analysis regarding numbers. Best of luck to him.

thevman19's picture

Moyers dad can take his vagina elsewhere. Your son averages 7 pts a game as a sophmore & you think he us the next big thing? Can't blame Matta for the timing...I mean jeez, kid got slow played & was offered before his junior year....gtfo.

The road to nowhere leads to me...

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

Get over yourself Fred Moyer - 3 if's in once sentence and he's in the NBa? You can get anywhere in the world with 3 if's...sheesh!

VJ King and Funderburk have always been ahead of Moyer  & Teske, let Beilein & Boeheim take what Thad doesnt particularly want. Good luck to the local Moyer kid - great program - but dad needs to get a grip.

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Toilrt Paper's picture

VJ King and Funderburk won't shy away from the competition in the 2014 and 2015 classes. But neither will be easy to get, both being recruited by the top programs in the country.

wyatt's picture

Neither of these players impressed me much. There area some much better players out there. Matta will get them. 

BuckeyesMJ's picture

Moyer on Syracuse "their style of play fits me"......

So you enjoy playing zone, eh?

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robobuck's picture

They were lucky they got offered...

Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it.  1 Corinthians 9:24

Knarcisi's picture

With his father's health and Mike no longer here, is Mickey Mitchell still a firm commit?

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Seattle Linga's picture

I have only heard "Yes" on all accounts but things can change in a heartbeat

apack614's picture

I hope we come out and have a turn around season, I think Thad Matta has the skills to do it. Let's get it Basketbucks!

"If we worked half as hard as our band, we'd be champions." - Woody Hayes

oregonianbuckeye's picture

What's the latest on King? I know we are aiming for him, but I haven't heard as much about his recruitment, other than he is transferring high schools.