PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
I picked the last one.... Not because your options necessarily suck, but because I'm not definitely convinced that they will or won't go undefeated.
I think that they CAN go undefeated because they definitely have the talent to breeze through most of their schedule.
But I also think that 25 wins in a row is extremely difficult to get.
I also find it funny that there are 8 votes for the last option and I'm the only one who has commented.....
9 votes for the last option. The options "suck" because we would have to go 26-0 to go undefeated next year.
But not to go undefeated in 2013. Unless they go 13-0 and play in a December bowl for some reason.
OSU has the talent Offensively to roll through the schedule.
Defense is where I'm still up in the air. Last season, OSU was in many tight games, because the defense allowed teams to stay close, until Boren moved, and helped settle things down. Well, Boren is gone and so are many quality defensive lineman that help linebackers play well. So, I'll be up in the air, on this team's outlook, until I see how the linebacker and defensive line positions come into form.
I definitely agree, we are stacked with depth in the secondary, but have a TON of questions in the front seven. Having a few consistent players there with some leadership intangibles is going to be extremely important. It is easy to get excited about our depth on the defensive line (I sure cannot wait to see the damaged that those players will do when they are developed) but they are still incredibly young, so nothing can be taken for granted. We saw some great things from Adolphus Washington in the Michigan game though (one or two forced fumbles!), let's get that talent rolling.
Curtis Grant though... let's hope he finally gets things squared away and can form one heck of a trio with Shazier and whoever else gets the nod for OLB.
It's easy with competent coaching. My HS had a 33 game win streak which was only broken because our new coach wanted to plug us into his "single wing" offense, which we all resented after seeing success running a pro-style offense for the past four seasons.
I think the Cal game is going to give us all heart attacks. Their new offense versus us with a bunch of new defensive starters just screams high-scoring shootout to me. Anybody can win one of those. We're a far better team on talent but I hate that matchup.
Northwestern may also be dangerous.
I can see undefeated, but anytime you are replacing as many starting defensive guys as we are, you have to be worried.
Totally agree. Coaching staff proved that a shaky defense at the beginning of the season can mature (and if healthy) dramatically improve. But the Cal game could be an early loss.
Like I am telling the Gonzaga fans here, being ranked in the top 3 or so is great but its damn lonely at the top. You are now everyone's "circled" game on the calendar. We will be ranked high and the Cal game is a worry.
I voted yes. Why not.
I too am eyeballing the Cal and Northwestern games.
Another consideration is that by going undefeated, this squad will eclipse the current unbeaten streak of 22 games set from 1967-69. That in itself is no small feat.
But I'm going optimistic with the new regime and young talent. Someone has to silence the SEC, why not Ohio State?
"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes
I voted for option C. Because there is not a yes or no answer to that question. So in effect the question sucked, not the response options.
The question should have been
"Do you think Ohio State can go undefeated next season."
No one can quantitatively state they will go undefeated as that is not a possibility to state.
The response option would then be
c. If either a. or b. Why/why not?
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Oh boy... Ok thanks for breaking it down and dissecting it Einstein! Just pick one geesh! Smh lol
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That comment just earned you extra credit. Or it would if I could figure out how to up vote.
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I voted #1 because i believe we can ,but to go undefeated in 2013 would not include a Rose Bowl victory a win in the national championship so that part dose not apply to this question.Anyone putting that in this discussion is not reading the question.GO BUCKS!
I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.
I voted #3. We have not even seen them play in the spring game and see how everyone fits in with the offense and defense. After that, I'll be more convinced we can go undefeated. We definitely have the talent and easy schedule going for us.
Believe me, I love the spring game but about as often as not, it really doesn't tell us a whole lot. The senior starters may not be in for long. As a fan, I'm rooting for the defense to do well but oh wait, that's our offense that should be scoring 80 but if they do then ...defense?
I've seen several spring game "stars" not start in the fall.
The spring game is to give the players some "atmosphere" and let the fans go to a reasonably priced event and get us psyched for the fall. If you are a parent with children under say, 10 - 14 or so its the only game you can 1) afford to take the kiddies to and 2) not have to worry about drunk/belligerent "f" bombing screaming person. Games really are an adult event nowadays. Yes, I realize that problem #2 is not every game, certainly not every section has him/her and the NFL is worse.
But it's sad as a parent. The kids will get to 14 (and behind the back of you, and maybe earlier than 14) they and their pals will "f" bomb everything too. Such is life. ;(
We're most likely going to have to get through five ranked opponents. I have each at the ranking and record I think they'll be at when we play them.
#11 4-0 Wisconsin - returns every skill player on offense except Montee Ball (James White figures to be just fine filling his shoes) and 4 of their 5 massive offensive lineman. They also return their entire front seven. It'll be up to our receivers to make plays against their secondary.
#12 4-0 Northwestern - They return 8 starters on offense, and 8 on defense from a 10-win team that beat an 8-win SEC West team, a 9-win SEC East team, and Big East co-champion Syracuse who went on to physically dominate West Virginia in their bowl game. Though they may not be as physical, they do have some serious speed on offense that could challenge pose a problem for our linebackers and secondary. They spread it out enough and play up-tempo and have shown ability to score on pretty much any defense. I see this as a close game through three quarters (like 28-27) with our superior depth showing in the fourth quarter to cruise to a 38-27 win. But a turnover could change the entire scope of the game.
#18 5-1 Penn State - Eight returning starters on offense. Two of the losses are McGloin and a TE, but I think Steven Bench and 5-star TE Adam Brennamen will actually be an upgrade. Only 5 starters return on defense, but Larry Johnson Jr is as good as they come at developing a tough, physical, and fundamentally sound front seven that will get them to 5-1 before they come to Cbus. Overall, the young QB - who I think is easily more talented than McGloin - will struggle get rattled in the Shoe. Bucks win 31-17. Might be closer in Happy Valley, but ask Matt Barkley and Vince Young how hard it is to play a big game in Columbus. A sophomore QB has very little shot at success.
#12 9-2 Michigan - This game worries me. Gardner showed huge progress during bowl practice and they should have beat a very talented South Carolina team. November weather in the State Up North means trench football (see: 2007), and Coach Flounder has been loading up talent in the trenches the past two years. In the end, we have more bruisers in the backfield that can pound the ball in the second half and run out the clock to a 24-17 victory.
B1G Championship game
#15 10-2 Michigan State or #15 10-2 Nebraska or #20 9-3 Michigan - The Legends division is up for grabs, but any way you slice it, the team that makes it their is going to be sporting at least 9 wins and a Top 20 ranking. Nebraska can score points on anyone, and you figure their defense has to get better. Michigan State's defense - despite losing William Gholston - might be even stronger in 2013 according to many analysts, which is a scary thought as they were stupid good in 2012 despite being on the field forever thanks to a terrible offense. Two weeks in a row against Michigan would take a physical toll on our players in the trenches, and I have to give it to Michigan in that they likely have more depth their. But, indoor stadium means we won't have to worry about weather and our offense should be running on all cylinders.
Don't forget, too, that Indiana returns 19 starters (10 on an offense that can put up some serious points). They now have a four star LB, a four star DE, a four star DT, and two four star DBs. However, of those 5 four star guys on defense, four are going to be freshman. Still, they have three stars two deep everywhere else, which is a huge upgrade from Indiana's normal 2 star and unranked classes. The other thing is this: Wilson began playing freshman almost exclusively four games into the 2011 season. Pretty much all these guys have nearly two full seasons under their belt. A veteran defense that should be much improved (no where to go but up) with some young talent to mix in and an explosive offense (healthy Tre Roberson) could make Indiana tough for some teams this year. A noon kickoff and a slow start could be a recipe for an upset. Do I think it will happen? No. I think our guys learned their lesson last year. But Indiana is going to give people fits this year. Kevin Wilson was one of the brainchildren (along with the late Randy Walker) behind Urban Meyer's offense (Urbz learned it from Wilson and Walker before taking it with him to BG). He's a guy that will be tough to outsmart.
No offense....but you better hope this comes true. Some of these (especially PSU) you're giving too much credit to. I'm not so sure many of these teams will actually be ranked besides tTUN and Wiscy...and that's saying a lot considering how much they both lost as far as offense is concerned. Just an opinion btw....I hope you're predictions come true. OSU will need all the help the can get for strength of schedule reasons.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Good breakdown, +1 for the effort.
"It all goes so fast, and character makes the difference when it's close."
I voted A because, well, why the hell not. However, the problem with option B is that the reason for not going undefeated is absurd. If we do lose a game this year it won't have anything to do with the fact that we won all our games last year.
I think we will run the table but I dont think it will be easy. We ALWAYS have a few slip up games that we dont get up for and end up having to come from behind to win.
It really depends on two things and they're both fairly obvious.
#1. How improved will the offense be? (won many close games last year)
#2. Six new starters on the front seven. Will the new starters rise to the challenge and be game changers? (just so difficult to know this)
Bottom line is it's very difficult to win 25 games in a row even with a favorable schedule. However, with the plethora of young talent on this roster and a man named Urban leading tOSUs young men anything is possible. Go Bucks!
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-
I probably sound like a homer, but there is a ton of momentum in Columbus right now. I think that this team is a continuous evolution nowhere near a finished product, and with that we will see a completely different team next year.
I have seen some really convincing arguments on here about the playbook not being fully utilized at all last season, and I buy into that a little bit. Next year with the offensive players we have we will look more like an Oregon or 06-08 Florida and less like OSU 12. I prefer the mold we had last year with the size, and we will still have it, but the speedy playmakers will not be ignored and we will put up points. The Big 10 isn't ready for it, especially with less-than-desirable recruiting efforts across the board.
Leave an option "C" like that out there, you might as well vote for me, because it's a given that I'm taking it....
I think they have better talent this year compared to last year and the are established into the system...
Way too early to be predicting anything at this point. I agree with HOLGATE, too much can happen between now and the beginning of the season. Not only with our team, but with every other team on our schedule as well. Let's have the spring games play out, summer practice, and maybe even the first couple of games before anyone has a good feel of what to really expect. (I will add that I expect them to do very well, but we just don't know how the chemistry of this 2013 team will pan out).
These are my reasons (which I've stated before but what the hell...why not again):
1. Favorable schedule (even easier than last years with away games at Cal, NW, Purdue, and tTUN being the hardest games) and two bye weeks which UFM is unbeaten after buy weeks in his coaching career.
2. No one...and yes....no one in tB1G will challenge OSU besides tTUN...like it or not...that's the facts. May be NW/Purdue (bc of history at their places) or Wiscy will give em a game but lets be honest with one another.
3. This is year two with these coaches as well as the kids being familiar with the system...not to mention holes that have been filled with the 2012 and 2013 classes.
4. Homer fan syndrome aside...who's going to challenge OSU besides the SEC or Stanford or may be Oregon...??? It sure as hell won't be tB1G. Please for the love of all that is holy don't say where's USC (or any other B1G teams than the ones I've already mentioned)??? They had the best chance last year and went 8-5 or whatever it was...??? Kiffin is a death sentence IMO.
5. OSU is on a mission my Buckeye Compadres....jump on board or keep being pessimistic (or optimistic as I'm sure some will say you are....which is too funny to me. You're pessimistic...just admit it;-)
I really, really, really hope the team proves me wrong, but I went with option B. I can't believe I am about to type this, but I am already worried about that trip to Evanston.
The 2011 team probably wasn't as bad as the record indicated (6 losses by 1 possession- the miami game was the only beatdown we suffered.) and I'm not sure the 2012 team was quite as good as the record showed either (what did we have 5 wins by 1 possession, including 2 OT wins?).
Don't get me wrong here, 12-0 is 12-0 and all you can do is win the games on the schedule, but there were several nail-biters last season against teams that mostly looked bad on a national scale. I also realize that sometimes you have to make your own luck, but it's almost like some kind of cosmic football power decided that the 2011 team would get absolutely no breaks (Joe Bauserman took snaps in the first 6 games for crying out loud!) and the 2012 team would get all of the breaks to go their way (see: Guiton v Purdue).
Having said all of that Debbie Downer crap above, I want to do a complete 180 and say "In Urbz We Trust!" If anyone can lead a charge of 26-0 to win a national title, it's that guy!
I think we will. The only real obstacle is @Michigan. Its not like we have to win 26 straight games. We have already won 12 in a row. We won't play in a bowl game until 2014, so we only have to win 13 in a row during 2013. Just purely looking at our roster and our opponents next year and 11 games in a row is safe bet, its the last few that are a cause for concern. By that time we should be a real monster to contend with though, so I still like our chances. This is without mentioning Urban Meyer's typical year 2 and all the success we had last year with a team in transition.
"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment."
I went with otpion c. And there's a few reason why. The talent is there yes. And so is the benificial schedule. But it takes more than talent and an easy docket to go undefeated. Last years team proved that it takes more than skill and the perceived easy opponents. They mae it through unscathed, and the reason wasn't talent alone.
Leadership was one of the biggest reasons for last years perfect run. Look at the seniors...they went through every extreme during their careers. The unbelievable highs(3 big ten titles, rose bowl and sugar bowl wins...they can vacate it, but they can't take away whyat was proven on the field.) The extreme lows(tatgate, tressels fall from grace and resignation, the 2011 season.) And the subsequent hiring of urban meyer and a brand new system and culture. And they bought in. That was abou as special a group of seniors as you will find. Replacing that is almost more important than replacing the player on the field. The mentality has to be right in the locker room to do what they did. And meyer is a great motivator, but the fact of the mater is you have to find the guys to step up and fill the shos of simon and boren.
Another big thing is luck. Even the best teams will fall victim to injuries, bad bounces, untimely turnovers and such. And this team will have its share of adversity. How they handle it will ultimately decide the difference between 13-0 and 10-3. That's the thing you can't really predict. But that's why they play the game.
The talent is certainly there. As are the winnable games. But losing the experience will be the biggest factor. The depth chart will sort itself out...the coaches will get the right guys out there. Its just the leadership factor that worries me. This team will be good...its takes more than just talent to be great.
I think Ohio State should go undefeated but its a big thing to say they will go.
Some team needs to beat them this year because if not forget 2014 they could win every game for 3 years...hasnt been done since USC.
It appears that very few people commenting on this poll read through this thread.
Good point, JackFu. I think they can go undefeated this year. Everyone should be more comfortable with the offense. Any improvement with that group makes them capable of putting 35+ points on any team on the schedule. The downside of livin' this dream is that the level of difficulty is immense and the odds are clearly against it. I'm still amazed at what the team accomplished last year. Nothing to play for but pride and they end up perfect on the year. We have a great head coach, fantastic staff, and great talent. They could run the table. I think it, I want to believe it, I just can't make myself say it out loud.
An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches
Forgot to add that big old preaseason top 3 bullseye that will be placed firmly on the backs of our buckeyes. Can't afford an off week....every team is going to be coming full bore at our guys. Meyer hasn't made any friends in the big ten. Because he raised the bar, and threw down the gauntlet. Every coach is going to have their guys ready to give this team their best shot and be the first to put an L on meyers record in columbus. Should make for a tough season. And make it that much sweeter if they run the table again.
i voted for the first option because we do have a soft schedule and we do have talent. what might derail our quest for perfection is the leadership. 2nd option doesn't make sense to me, since statistically the first 12 win already happened, so shouldn't be taken into account when looking at the probability of winning the next __ games -_-
(ignore this, I was trying to reply so moved it)
There is no doubt in my mind this team will go undefeated and a national championship....
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