Michigan Planning Fireworks After Two Home Games in 2014

By DJ Byrnes on July 14, 2014 at 1:32p
151 Comments

Dave Brandon's blinder continues, folks.

First, Michigan used free donuts to entice students to attend noon games in a timely fashion. (It failed.) Then they turned to GroupOn to peddle Michigan alumni membership. (That too failed.)

Then, despite Brandon's promise to bring innovation to the marketing of tickets, Michigan's students rejected tickets in droves

Add it all up, it's a recipe that led our Michael Citro to speculate on if the Horseshoe could outdraw the Big House this season.

But those speculating about an Ohio State attendance crowd should take heed, because it appears Dave Brandon has been hiding an ace up his sleeve!

From James Jahnke of Freep.com:

The U-M athletic department has asked the university’s Board of Regents to approve fireworks shows after the Wolverines’ football games against Miami (Ohio) on Sept. 13 and Penn State on Oct. 11 to “further enhance the fan experience for these important games.”

I'm not a marketing guru like Dave Brandon — and I don't want it to seem like I'm disrespecting his genius or going out of my way to help Michigan — but you know what might go along way to "further enhance the fan experience?"

A team that doesn't lose five a games a year. Fireworks, after all, would do little to dull the pain of a loss to Miami (OH) or Penn State. Hell, it might even give someone the impression the losses were being celebrated.

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture
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Angry Panda's picture

this is hilarious....upvote if i could...

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QBYBuckeye's picture

Here is an "upvote" for you, kid!

New York Buckeye

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BierStube's picture

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

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Knarcisi's picture

Here's another. You're about over the 50 hump. 

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BroJim's picture

Fireworks, yeah that will do it. He should have looked at some of the Cleveland Indians data and known that fireworks are only good for getting the gulls of the field, not selling tickets.

I season my simple food with hunger

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M Man's picture

AND IT'S A GOOD THING THAT THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY WOULD NEVER STOOP TO FIREWOR....

D'OH!

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DJ Byrnes's picture

pretty sure thats b4 the game, also not heralded as a show... the show part, for ohio state anyway, comes in during the game

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

BroJim's picture

Beat me to it.

I season my simple food with hunger

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Deadly Nuts's picture

Don't forget the part where our student section is... you know.... full.

LEBRON

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Daddypete's picture

Hey DJ, didn't we follow those fireworks with Beyonce coming out to the 50 yard line and having a "wardrobe malfunction?"

"Stand and Deliver!"

Byaaaahhh's picture

The difference is people would come even if there weren't fireworks, we're not using fireworks to get people to come.

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M Man's picture

Well there's absolutely no difference whatsoever, if The OSU used fireworks "to enhance the fan experience." 

It absolutely isn't our first crack at fireworks, by the way.  I recall fireworks at our completely sold-out Big Chill hockey game with Sparty.

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cbusbuckeye's picture

Michigan, where a hockey game in the dead of winter is a guaranteed sell-out but parlor tricks are required to fill the big house when football is played there. 

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kevdale86's picture

They can spin it however they want, bottom line is they're trying to put bottoms in the seats. That's pretty sad that the proud UofM, with their Michigan Man, has to try and bribe people to come to games with doughnuts and fireworks. I personally go to Ohio State games for the experience that it is. TBDBITL, the Shoe, the players on the field, the list goes on and on. No amount of fireworks, or free giveaways would make me want to go more. Using fireworks at Ohio State to enhance the fan experience is just that, an enhancement to an already sold out stadium.

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bigtenspeed's picture

I know that you know this was just the entrance. There was no fireworks show.

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Ramzy Nasrallah's picture

Two seconds of unannounced fireworks for the team running onto the field before last year's Penn State game, for ABC's cameras. I'm sure you realize you can literally see the entire "show" in the photo you've posted. 

This is nothing like what Michigan is attempting to do here, counselor.

M Man's picture

But Ramzy, where does "post game fireworks" become "desperation marketing"?  One of the two games in question is our home night-game with Penn State.  Now, my feelings about (a) The Pennsylvania State University and (b) night games leaves me feeling pretty underwhelmed about that game.  But that's just me.  It is, by most reckoning, the marquee game on the Michigan home calendar.  And it doesn't have the feel of "desperate to make it a sellout."

The Penn State game in particular (less so, the Miami University in Ohio game) has the feel of "fireworks simply as thanks to fans" more so than "sales inducement."

Just like fireworks in Ohio Stadium. 

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Byaaaahhh's picture

The Penn State game in particular (less, so, the Miami University of Ohio game) has the feel of "fireworks simply as thanks to fans" more so than "sales inducement."

And that's the difference between the perspective of a *ichigan fan and everyone else. It happens to all fans, but you can't see it in this instance because, again, you are the fan.

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

Surely you can see the difference between announcing fireworks "shows" after games and lighting a few off while the team enters the stadium! Even if we all could agree with you, you can't disagree how embarrassing it would be to have a fireworks show after the game if UM were to lose one of them. Everyone made fun of Indiana for cutting down the nets and they actually had something to celebrate. Fireworks after a CFB loss in the Big House? Please let it be so!

How Firm Thy Friendship

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M Man's picture

Do you think that this was all "announced," as part of some marketing initiative?  It wasn't.  I get all of the marketing emails, mailings and announcements.  This wasn't one of those.

No -- this was a newspaper story, reported without the direction or involvement of Michigan's Athletic Department.  The newspaper got wind of the fact that it was on the agenda for a vote by the Regents.

Here; you see that nobody from Michigan's Athletic Department "announced" anything:

The U-M Athletic Department has put forward the fireworks proposal for consideration by the Board of Regents this Thursday.

The proposal indicates ACE Pyro has been selected to produce the shows, and the displays would be performed from the field and from the rooftops of the east and west towers of the stadium. However, not much more is being said at this time.

Associate Athletic Director David Ablauf declined to comment Monday on the extent of the fireworks shows or how long they would last.

"We have a policy of not discussing any items publicly until they have been approved by the regents," Ablauf said.

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whiskeyjuice's picture

I'd rather let my dog do this to me than watch a *ichigan game..........UNLESS of course, they are playing Ohio State

"You'll find out that nothing that comes easy is worth a dime. As a matter of fact, I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face." -- Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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BeijingBucks's picture

well something smells when it needs to be announced months ahead of time.  why not just do it? damn the consequences? enhance away

 

 

None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. ~ John Milton

M Man's picture

As indicated, infra; this was not "announced."  It was reported as a matter pending before the Board of Regents.  Whose approval seems to have been required.  (Appropriatley, since the University is self-insured and no doubt any excess or reinsurance carriers would want there to be some scrutiny of such a decision.)

Not only was it not "announced," our Athletic Department refused comment on it.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

I was at that game and Ramzy is right, the few seconds of fireworks were there to enhance the players coming out of the tunnel and play to the cameras.

The real fireworks were on the field, all 63 points of them shot directly up Billy O'Brien's nether region.

TexasBuck11's picture

Anyone else notice the face in the leftmost pillar of smoke? Woody?

apack614's picture

I bet we won that game though...

"If we worked half as hard as our band, we'd be champions." - Woody Hayes

tussey's picture

"Look at your life.  Look at your choices.  You took a roofie from a priest."

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BierStube's picture

At least the fans will get something for their money ... sarcasm font really not needed!

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

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buckskin's picture

Hey Brandon, wanna enhance the game experience?  Actually WIN some football games!

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brandonbauer87's picture

Even if I could do that, I wouldn't. 

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airbuckeye's picture

Sad state of affairs up north and I LOVE IT. The whole State is turning into a wasteland dump and crime rate is starting to go of the charts. Hell you could not give a 1 millon to even spend a night in that shit whole state.

I once spend a nigt there back in the 80's and felt like i was spending a night jail then and could'nt drive fast enough to get my ass out of that state the next morning.

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DJ Byrnes's picture

Anybody willing to give AirBuckeye 1 million to spend a night in Michigan, please email me at dj [at] elevenwarriors dot com. I don't like Michigan but I think I would like two commas involved in my bank account without a negative sign.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

jonping67's picture

A few more spelling errors Airbuck and I'll think you're from down south.You drinking already?

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Buck Commander's picture

Turning into a wasteland dump..........Hell it has been like that since I was born in 1971 and well before that!

Every time I set my DVR to record Biggest Loser......It always records Wolverine Football Games!

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

The only thing with more holes in it than U of M defense is that state's public roads. Other than that though, I would gladly accept $1M to spend a night there: it legitimately is a pretty state (particularly in the U. P.).

How Firm Thy Friendship

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OvalBeachBum's picture

Lets be honest, Michigan can be a beautiful state.  My Family goes to Coldwater every weekend in the summers, and its honestly an awesome escape.  Plus I love wearing buckeye gear around Michigan...

"In the words of the late great Colonel Sanders, I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Ricky Bobby

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

Mostly agree, however the trout fishing in Western MI is world class. I'm really torn in admitting it, but can't deny I pitch a tent in my waders thinking about fly fishing the Manistee, the Pere Marquette, and a few other of those rivers.

buckeyefanatic's picture

When does Brandon issue a press statement stating that the Brady Hoke hiring was the biggest bomb?

How many batteries does it take to beat Michigan football?   1AA
Want to beat Michigan? There's an App for that.

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jedkat's picture

You know what they say..Live by the Hoke, die by the Hoke.

“The teams that don’t respect their coaches and don’t trust their coaches are the teams that go .500"
~Zach Boren

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DaveStephens's picture

I was watching Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, and I think Brady Hoke was in it. There's a fat, sweaty gangster that def looks like him.

The Dude abides.

Brutus's picture

Nick the Greek?

Yep, pretty close.

hodge's picture

One of my favourite films of all time.

BTBuckeye's picture

This guy is an idiot. What's next Brandon? Lloyd Carr bobble head night?

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unknownmusketeer's picture

Stop giving Brandon ideas. Besides, everyone knows that Bo Schembechler would be first. Either that, or he will be giving out commemorative schedules.

HandsOfSweed's picture

Michigan Football has become a minor-league baseball team. Pretty soon they are going to have half-price "Dress Up Nights" and hot-dog costume themed halftime races.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Maybe they'll try a dime-a-dog night, and to add to the authenticity, it will be against Toledo on a Monday Night!  Genius!!

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AndyVance's picture

Pretty sure there's a Brady Hoke joke in the dime-a-dog night suggestion...

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The Butler's picture

That's what his wife said...

I've trained Canaries in the sport of falconry.

 

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toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

And Toledo will beat them again!

Byaaaahhh's picture

Hey, don't knock Dime-a-Dog Night, you hear me??

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Fatpants's picture

This will go well until Hoke eats the hot dog costumes.

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BierStube's picture

Two games with fireworks ... mehh ..

The rest of the season ...

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Well, when you hire a man that tanked a national pizza chain to run your athletic department like a business...  well...  you shouldn't really be surprised by anything (other than actual success).

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Denny's picture

Gonna be hella-cool when the fireworks spell out 1-800-DOMINOS

Taquitos.

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Knarcisi's picture

Dominoes and Michigan.  "Not afraid to fail". What's next a Hoke Pizza?  That'd be a box of air. 

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Buckeyeneer's picture

Fireworks!!!?? Michigan needs to go back its roots and return to being about the things that Michigan should be about. . . . like Beyoncé.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

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HotSauceCommittee's picture

Just because Hoke looks like Fred Flintstone doesn't mean the Big House is attracting 7 year old that want to see fireworks. Adults want to beat traffic, kids want to party. I would probably stick around if the players were on the field, the band was playing while the fireworks were lit off. If we lost, I would bounce.

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yrro's picture

I'm really trying to imagine the kind of fan that would watch their team lose to Penn State, then stay for the fireworks after...

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Rob Reese's picture

I don't know.  I feel their marketing team missed the boat on this one. For instance, I was always greatly entertained last year watching interviews with Lewan after a Michigan beatdown, as he explained how bad the other team was.

Instead of fireworks after the game, maybe they could incorporate him doing a live piece after whatever mauling Michigan was just the recipient of, and, again ranting about how bad the opposition was?  Doesn't get any more entertaining than that.

Speaking of Lewan, any one ever colonize that gi-normous freaking zit he was proudly sporting dead smack in the middle of his forehead last year?  I'm certain it was supporting it's own ecosystem by week 5.

"All I have known at Michigan is failure.  That's all I know." - Taylor Lewan

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OSUStu's picture

Fireworks?  Is it safe to assume they will be set off during the game?  You know...in order to distract the fans from the product on the field.

What?  Ohio State is about to score again?  Launch a couple of the big ones.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

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jpbuckeye's picture

IF THEY INSIST ON GIVE A WAYS, THIS IS THEIR ONLY HOPE:

 
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BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

Michigan puts fireworks in the sky, Buckeyes put fireworks on the field.

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Joebobb's picture

Just a silly observation here. If the problem with Michigan games is that the students are staying home, how will fireworks help? The students all live within walking distance from the stadium, you would have to figure that after watching "scUM" on their 60' in flat screens (or more likely playing video games) they can then walk out their front door sit on their porch and watch the firework show from there.

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osugreg04's picture

Maybe they should consider adding touchdowns to enhance the fan experience #thejokeswritethemselves

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M Man's picture

I am not a reflexive defender of Dave Brandon; but at what other sporting venue in the world would a couple of fireworks shows be considered a sign of impending doom for the enterprise?

I can think of a few deeply-traditionalist events where fireworks might be rejected out of hand; the Masters, Wimbledon, the America's Cup, Harvard-Yale football...

And I am happy that at least some people expect Michigan football to adhere to that sort of purist aesthetic.  But it sure seems to me that, in appealing to a younger market in particular, fireworks seem to be a reasonably popular idea.

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AeroBuckeye2001's picture

If I was a Michigan fan, I would be concerned about further catharsis and damage from the potential experience of trying to enjoy a fireworks display after a loss.

The Ohio State University Class of 2001
BS Aero & Astronautical Engineering

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

There's a trend in the B1G to celebrate after losses .... TTUN is just getting on the bandwagon ....

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Joebobb's picture

I could care less about the tradition. I think Brandon should do what it takes to fill the place but Fireworks?? c'mon. As I mentioned earlier, if the real problem they have at Michigan is the lack of student ticket sales, how will fireworks change this. The students pretty much live in the area and can see the firework show from their front porch. They can be a free rider here. It just seems that Brandon is throwing darts and while he has identified the problem, he is clueless in how to fix it. For the price they are spending on fireworks, maybe they should lower student ticket prices or offer a contest to students to win a semester of free tuition if they are present at the game. I am not saying I have the answers but these are still better than fireworks.

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BeijingBucks's picture

i gotta say working in China... if you do enough fireworks it gets anyone's attention.  This place during the new year makes the Baghdad offensive look like a disney ride.  But, will it be during the day? after a loss? to a middling B1G team (or Appy St #pleaseohpleasemakeithappen)

meh.  college students in AA if I recall are more known for smoking weed and running around in the buff than spreading out a quilt and having a picnic on the lawn watching sparkly things in the sky.  live music shows might have more pull I'm guessing but doubt if Brandon has any sense of what is trending for your average fan.  Besides what college kids like is the opposite of what everyone else likes (meaning the alumni and their grandkids)

yeah.  i'm with the above posters.  just win games. stop playing around.

 

 

None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. ~ John Milton

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Less fireworks, more pepperoni.

buckeyedude's picture

Ooooooooooooo! Ahhhhhhhhh!

 

 

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Firedup's picture

Uh Oh! Sounds like Brandon has been hanging around the Dolans too much in believing that fireworks and dollar hot dogs will bring the casual fan to the experience and has no correlation to the product on the field.

"Making the Great State of Ohio Proud!" UFM

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Buck Commander's picture

Just like TTUN celebrating another loss with fireworks......what a joke!

Every time I set my DVR to record Biggest Loser......It always records Wolverine Football Games!

M Man's picture

I know that video clip.

Touchdown, Michigan.  (Hoke was going to call timeout, before Gardner called his own play.)

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Chief B1G Dump's picture

Helluva coach. 

So in tune with his team that he doesn't need a headset. Pfffft. 

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Kingbuck12's picture

This comment is for M Man. I am impressed you come on this website but come on, this is a pretty desperate gimmick. You shouldn't have these so-called attractions to get the students to a Michigan football game. If this were OSU I would be getting a little worried. Just my thoughts. Thank you

Kingbuck12

M Man's picture

Fireworks was not my idea.  But I'll live blog it for you when it happens if you're curious about it.

I've got a number of disagreements with Dave Brandon, but I can't honestly think of a better Big Ten AD, and I think that any large -scale freak out over the precise nature, timing and, uh, motivation for fireworks is mostly hysterical.  (Check out the etymology of "hysteria.")

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MN Buckeye's picture

I am not defending Gene Smith, but Dave Brandon as the best B1G AD?

For what it's worth, I really don't care whether MI has fireworks or not. I think it unlikely that it will it help ticket sales, however.

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M Man's picture

For what it's worth, I really don't care whether MI has fireworks or not. I think it unlikely that it will it help ticket sales, however.

Who says that the fireworks are to "help ticket sales"?  Our season ticket packages are mostly sold out.  They are always mostly sold out.  There's been a waiting list for tickets, and a complicated Victors' Club points allocation for seating assignments, for a couple of generations in Michigan Stadium.  

I take Brandon at his word when he says fireworks are to "enhance the fan experience."  We stage flyovers, raptor demonstrations, jet-man stunts, parachute drops, and lots of other stuff as part of game-day experiences.  Fireworks, it seems, requires Regent approval.  Big deal.

I wouldn't ever go out of my way to praise Brandon (as I say, I disagree with Brandon on an array of topics and have said so on these pages) at the particular expense of Gene Smith.  Smith has done alright, not screwing up too terribly the mighty platform he inherited from Andy Geiger, who is one of a great many superior AD's in Columbus.  (Along with Michigan Man Rick Bay.)  Andy Geiger was the best AD of his generation, imho.

If there were to be a serious case made against Brandon as the best AD in the B1G, it would be Mark Hollis and not Gene Smith.  With a good argument for Barry Alvarez too.

But it's all about the Benjamins for those guys.  And Brandon is going to put Michigan's Athletic Department on a solid foundation.  Brandon inherited his own superior platform from Bill Martin, whose strength was building the Athletic Campus' physical plant and stabilizing finances.  

I could write an essay on my disagreements with Brandon.  And I still think he is the smartest AD in the Conference.

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Buck Commander's picture

While UM tickets are mostly sold out Ohio St. Tickets are completely sold out!

Every time I set my DVR to record Biggest Loser......It always records Wolverine Football Games!

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AndyVance's picture

M Man, two things (and nothing but love for you, as one of the site's faithful friends from the other side of the border):

  1. You can't be serious about the Dave Brandon thing, right? I know we dog on Gene Smith a lot, but there's really no comparison between the accomplishments of one and the other at their respective schools.
  2. I agree that all this laughter about fireworks is a tempest in a teapot - night games are prime fodder for fireworks, period. That said, the fact that it made a story at the Free Press says something in and of itself, doesn't it?
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M Man's picture

A little inside-Michigan baseball, Andy...

The Freep has its knickers in a twist about matters having to do with the Michigan Board of Regents.  The Freep just filed a major lawsuit seeking Open Meetings Act sanctions against the Board of Regents.  This story came up as a matter of a pending issue with the Board of Regents.

And I do seriously think that Brandon is, personally, the smartest AD in the B1G.  No knock on Gene Smith.  You have no doubt read more from me, Andy, disagreeing with Brandon, than chastising Gene Smith.  Right?  But Gene Smith is no Andy Geiger.  I don't think Dave Brandon is an Andy Geiger.  Don Canham was.

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AndyVance's picture

Thanks for the insight on the Freep deal - context really does matter, doesn't it?

Also, after reading your comment further down clarifying your thoughts on Brandon, I get what you're saying, and agree that Hollis and Alvarez are pretty sharp operators, too. I agree that Brandon is a sharp guy, but I think Bacon laid out a pretty compelling case on this site a few weeks back that the man in charge doesn't quite have it all together, at least at the moment.

And I totally agree with your comments on Geiger, and I have to admit that the first name I thought of in this discussion was Don Canham. That guy was a genius.

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Don Canham - genius.  Andy Geiger - sorta genius (not sure I approve of the handling of Maurice Cl.), but he did wonders for our program.  Gene Smith... well... hard to tell how much of his contributions are based on Andy setting him up for success, or self-created.  I have respect for the man, but he leaves me scratching my head sometimes

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

AndyVance's picture

Geiger was one of the best ADs in college football - I agree that he botched the MoC incident from top to bottom, but he's largely responsible for most of the athletic facilities on campus not named Ohio Stadium or St. John Arena, so that's a pretty darn good resume when you think about it... Smith has picked up the mantle pretty well, I think, even if they share a similar penchant for botching NCAA/player intrigue.

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M Man's picture

My favorite Don Canham story, paraphrased.

So Canham hires Bo Schembechler out of Miami.  They agree to the deal, on a handshake.  Canham, a consummate businessman and a self-made millionaire in track & field equipment (after having been a track star and track coach himself) tells Bo not to worry about a contract.  Bo asks, "But what will you do  if things don't work out and  I don't win?"  Canham smiled and answered, "Bo if you don't win we'll both be fired."

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Gone are the days when a handshake meant integrity and accountability to do your best to hold up one's own end of the shake.  Warms my heart to read about moments like this.

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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original buckeye's picture

You do realize we're talking about a guy who thought skywriting (yes, skywriting) "Go Blue" over the MSU stadium on gameday was a good idea, right? 

There's blind homerism, and then there's calling Brandon the best AD in the Big Ten.

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Fatpants's picture

Trolled sparty before being humiliated in East Lansing. Well played, pizza man. 

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Tyler Durden's picture

This feels like trying to draw fans to bad minor league baseball games.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Thinking the same thing.  Minor League Baseball does this to get people to come.  Does one of the most storied College Football Programs (like it or not) in the country really need to do this, and actually think this will bring in fans who wouldn't otherwise have already been there?  M Man referenced the Fireworks at one of the night games at the 'shoe with a picture.  It's not the act of shooting fireworks that makes no sense, it's how it's being presented, as if it was Bobble Head Thursday, Big Beer Friday, or whatever other promos the Minor League teams use.  Shoot as many fireworks off as you want, just don't stoop to the level that this brings it to by advertising it, and then stating it's an idea to bring fans in.  

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Habu71's picture

So the fireworks of opposing teams lighting up the scoreboard against them aren't enough? 

sox33osu's picture

The U-M athletic department has asked the university’s Board of Regents to approve fireworks shows after the Wolverines’ football games against Miami (Ohio) on Sept. 13 and Penn State on Oct. 11 to “further enhance the fan experience for these important games.”

Seriously???

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M Man's picture

Nobody has said anything about it, but the question I had about fireworks for the Miami (Not That Miami) game is that it isn't a night game.

So when do they do the fireworks?  3:30 kickoff?  (Time is still TBA.)  That gets you to 7:00 or so.  Sunset for SE Michigan is at 7:05 on September 13, 2014.  That'll be weird.  Twilight fireworks.

unknownmusketeer's picture

Maybe they are planning for overtime ...

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M Man's picture

Or, just maybe, it will be one of those odd-time features on the BTN.  Like a 4:00 or 5:00 game.

But historically, the locals in Ann Arbor get riled up about anything other than day games.  We've had a grand total of two night games in the history of the Big House.  Penn State in October will be the third.  There is a wellspring of opposition to Michigan night games.  I am part of that opposition.  Brandon is gradually moving Michigan to one home night game a year now.  (We've had a few late-afternoon games in late October and early November that felt like night games when it was over.  The historic comeback with Braylon Edwards to destroy Michigan State.  Our upset of a Number 1 Penn State team.  And the debacle against Colorado, with Kordell Stewart's Hail Mary.

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Ugly Hour Chazz Bear's picture

Michigan should be more concerned about the football team than worrying about fireworks.

Winning puts fans in the seats, not fireworks people all over the USA see for free numerous times throughout the year.
 

blu.fan's picture

Fireworks are nice and all, but I completely agree with Eleven Warriors . . . what will attract fans is a quality winning program. Winning cures and fixes lots of problems. I do, however, think that Michigan will win more this year than last, and more next year than this year. I especially am looking forward to what the defense under Mattison will do.

Regarding Brandon, free donuts won't attract anyone. Who cares about a donut. What really cheeses off some Michigan fans is nickel and diming us for every last thing. You can't bring sealed bottled water in with you, and they were trying to eliminate seat cushions. You have to pay for seat licenses, more for parking, etc., etc., etc. Some of us old crabby people feel like he would allow any advertiser in if they paid enough money. And I'm just waiting until there is some stupid faux Wolverine mascot. "Get off my lawn."

M Man's picture

You know that "free donuts" was NOT Brandon's idea, right?  They were having a bit of fun with a p.r. kerfuffle caused by Brady Hoke (following an offhand comment) that the assistant AD's ran with, along with the more than willing participation of Michigan Stadium vendor, Tim Horton's.  (Ironically, a franchise brand under the aegis of Wendy's.  That's Wendy's of Dublin, Ohio.)

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bucknut3011's picture

Sooo...  Doughnuts were Hoke's idea?  

(Couldn't resist.)

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highwire's picture

I'm sure Hoke couldn't either.

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mr.green's picture

The game day experience (under Brandon) is terrible. Piped in music, the loudest scoreboard I have ever encountered, putting microphones on the band, Pom poms (can you say SEC) in the stands. Even m*chigan fans are not happy with the expansion and what it did. That stadium, as much as I hate it, used to be a gem. Now it is not really worth spending time in for anything other than waiting for tbdbitl to play Carmen when OSU wins.

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M Man's picture

...(under Brandon)

?!?

  • "Piped in music" is present at every collegiate football stadium I've been in.  I prefer the great marching bands, and Michigan's and Ohio State's are among the best.  But the programmed recorded music didn't begin with Brandon; and certainly not at Michigan.  We began the larger-scale use of 'stadium rawk' when Bill Martin was AD.  I think fans everywhere in college football have differing feelings about it.  Some fans hate it, some like it.  All programs do it, including yours.  Aesthetically, I'll join you and say that I dislike it.  But it isn't Brandon's fault.
  • Promotional pom poms in the stands also began under Martin, not Brandon.  I was there.  Lloyd Carr was still coaching the first time they did that.
  • Mic'ing the band also predated Brandon, just barely.  I have mixed feelings about mic'ing the Michigan Marching Band; it is plenty loud enough for me as I sit on the east sideline and they 'point' right at us.  But I have had occasion to sit for a game in the southwest corner of the Stadium and also the south endzone, and the directionality of the band volume was distressingly low in those areas.  The idea behind mic'ing the band was to "fill" the Stadium more evenly, for Michigan fans who like the band.
  • I know of no Michigan fans who dislike the Stadium expansion.  I began as an opponent of the renovation.  I thought it would be too dark.  (One of the best features of Michigan Stadium is the tremendous light, with no high decks.)  But once I saw the plans, I was sold and I have never changed my mind.  There is no better stadium in the country.  Maybe you could point us all toward some evidence of Michigan fans being "not happy" with the "expansion."  (It really wasn't much of an expansion as it was renovation.)
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whiskeyjuice's picture

I read a good chunk of this thread but not all of it (quite long) so please excuse me if I cover something that was already talked about.

I think the issue with the fireworks is about timing. *ichigan has been on a downward trend so anything new, public relations wise, comes across as needy or desperate, almost like trying anything to get a spark into the program. It would be different if these things happened while *ichigan was winning 10 plus games a year. 

And I saw that you were speaking highly of the tickets being sold but there have been several articles referencing the fact that *ichigan students attendance at the games have been dropping the last few years to the point where the Goodyear blimp stopped taking aerial pics/camera shots. I'm just going by various articles/media outlets so I don't have any REAL proof that this is an issue (other than last years OSU and UM game seemed to have ALOT of scarlet throughout the stadium). 

Just for my curiosity, could you try to find something that shows current ticket sales for TTUN this year? specifically tickets purchased by the students? I will also try to see what I can find.

"You'll find out that nothing that comes easy is worth a dime. As a matter of fact, I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face." -- Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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M Man's picture

You are confusing two similar, but different, things.

You (and others) seem to think that Michigan student ticket sales for football have fallen through the floor.  That's not true.

What Michigan does every summer is to allocate a set number of tickets, corresponding to entire sections of the northwest corner of the Stadium, for student ticket sales.  This year, with my blessing, the Athletic Department is setting aside fewer of those seats.  And placing more (formerly student) tickets into the pool of general public sales of single-game and package tickets.

This will do a couple of things.  First, it might place a premium on student-section seats (lower supply) such that only the more-motivated students will purchase season tickets.  Second, it will raise more revenue from a small number of seats (the general public pays more than students; with seat licenses, season ticket holders pay a lot more).

Now, let's face some reality.  Michigan's home schedule is regarded as unusually bad this year for one reason, and that reason was not Michigan's doing.  Due to the Conference forcing it on us, we are this year (for the first time in memory) flipping our rotation with Michigan State and playing in East Lansing for the second year in a row.  By rights, that game ought to be in Ann Arbor, and ought to be the feature game of the year.  Add to that it is an even-numbered year in which the Ohio State and Notre Dame games are on the road, and what we do get at home is a diminished Utah team, a questionable Penn State team, a subpar Conference schedule (no Wisconsin, no Nebraska, again through no fault on our part) and it is a minor perfect storm of disappointment in the home schedule.

It is really the Big Ten conference that I blame.  We traditionalists are pissed off almost beyond words about the MSU schedule flip; we are unhappy about the likes of Rutgers and Maryland substituting for Wisconsin and Nebraska; and some of us have wanted a better non-conference slate for a long time.

Now back to ticket sales.  Student ticket sales are underway now, or very soon, and it is assured that less student tickets will be sold because less will be offered for sale.  The falloff in general season ticket sales (a fact, but not publicized in detail anywhere that I know of) became known earlier in the year when PSD's (preferred seating donations; Michigan's fancy name for seat licenses) were due.  The falloff is what I'd term "small, but significant."  Something like 10%, maybe more.  A number that is likely to rebound in 2015 if Michigan's own prospects are any good, because the home schedule will be good.  Seven games: Oregon State, UNLV, Brigham Young, Northwestern, Michigan State, Rutgers and The Ohio State University.

So Michigan is in the unusual position for once, in 2014, of having more than the usual number of single-game tickets to move.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

M Man makes a lot of good points on here.  Not sure why people see fit to downvote him to oblivion.  Other than that hideous icon he has...

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M Man's picture

I have really been tempted, by this photo as a new avatar:

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Deadly Nuts's picture

Does that represent the amount of times you've beaten us in the last ten years? I assume that there are four more Buckeye leafs that are not pictured.

LEBRON

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Rob Reese's picture

 Does that represent the amount of times you've beaten us in the last ten years? I assume that there are four more Buckeye leafs that are not pictured.

Oh no you deednn't!! 

"All I have known at Michigan is failure.  That's all I know." - Taylor Lewan

ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

I dunno... sometimes I wish Cooper would have paid us back with free donuts to watch him lose the big one every year

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

Hovenaut's picture

Winning football kept that house packed.

I never went to a fireworks show where a football game broke out.

Said it before, saying it again here...Dave Brandon needs to focus on program, not product.

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RenegadeBuckeye's picture

The fireworks are just a temporary fix until Brandon figures out how to fill "The Big House" crust with cheese...then you'll see his greatness.

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Bucksfan70's picture

if they lose either of those games the fireworks will be hated and cause an uproar, it will be like adding insult to injury.

“Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can accomplish what others can't.” - Jerry Rice

FROMTHE18's picture

heres an idea to increase ticket sales: stop being crap. 

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s.pasadena fl's picture

Hackenberg will provide on the field fireworks when he starts firing the football. No need to have any after the game.

Ed Hopper

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Bucksfan70's picture

who does he have to throw to?

“Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can accomplish what others can't.” - Jerry Rice

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Knarcisi's picture

What's next?  Hoke lighting farts at halftime?

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buckguyfan1's picture

Well, they could combine the 2.

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highwire's picture

Quick somebody call Dominoes 

dancinhomer321's picture

Looked back at the groupon UM alumni assoc deal, only sold 7 the whole time. Isn't it great to be a buckeye!

Buckeye 4 Life!

PasadenaBuckeye626's picture

Winning sells tickets.  I hope they continue to focus on fireworks and ignore the fact that winning fills stadiums.

Go Bucks!

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cajunbuckeye's picture

Michigan football is a bloated, rotting corpse. The buzzards are circling.....

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

GlueFingers Lavelli's picture

Will they still have a fireworks show if they lose to Penn State?.... man that would be hilarious. Dave Brandon going out with a bang.

Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.

Jimmy Smits's picture

Sad, maybe the Beach Boys can come perform after the Indiana game

I like nachos

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Shangheyed's picture

Flashing lights in the sky.... that will bring the Trailor Wolfies out...unless there is a sale at Walmart... then all best off.

whiskeyjuice's picture

I know I would be way more interested in going to a UM game if they handed out sparklers to the first 100 people in the gate!!

"You'll find out that nothing that comes easy is worth a dime. As a matter of fact, I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face." -- Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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Groveport Heisman's picture

Pretty sure Brandon  knows something we all don't. Either *ichigan gets revenge against PSU and has a nice little fireworks show or PSU wins and Hoke is immediately fired and the fans to enjoy a real set of fireworks. Brandon is looking at a win/win  situation on making the fans happy.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

whiskeyjuice's picture

I think you maybe on to something. May be the games that are planned for fireworks are about the time Brandon is predicting the firing of Hoke........so if they also happen to not lose that game.........it will be like a win, win win.

"You'll find out that nothing that comes easy is worth a dime. As a matter of fact, I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face." -- Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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FairfaxBuckeye's picture

Hey, if it works for the Lansing Lugnuts, it can work for the Michigan football team

http://www.milb.com/content/page.jsp?ymd=20130814&content_id=56984376&fe...

ab42beerman's picture

Those who stay will see fireworks.

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11UrbzAndSpices's picture

Tip of my hat. That was a pretty witty joke.

Does anyone know if BucksFan changed his icon?

BucksFan2000's picture

If they sink much lower, they'll have a live wolverine mascot named Swagger.

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AndyVance's picture

I am about to break the first rule of Downvotes (talking about down votes):

Those of you who are down voting every single post of MMan's simply because he is a fan of That Team Up North and is sharing a reasonable defense of his school's athletic program: STOP DOING THAT. MMan is one of a handful of quality contributors to this site from up there who add quite a bit of value to the community through their relatively objective, well-reasoned commentary. It really frosts me to see that every single one of his comments on this thread has garnered four or five down votes.

STOP USING THE VOTING SYSTEM TO EXPRESS DISAGREEMENT. Hit the "reply" button and actually present a cogent argument, dammit.

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M Man's picture

Those Who Stay Will Be Downvoted.

 
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causeicouldntgo43's picture

Agree - MMan's commentary is the most reasoned and fair you will get from someone who is afflicted with being a fan of TTUN. I think he may have been drunk-blogging a bit here about Brandon and fireworks, but we can forgive him for that, right? 

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hodge's picture

But Andy, he's going against the hive mind!  He must be banhamm3r'd!!!1!

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AndyVance's picture

Point well taken, Hodge. I rescind my previous comment, and award you all my helmet stickers for helping me see the error of my ways.

Resistance is futile, right?

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DJ Byrnes's picture

agreed. M Man is good, despite his horrible affliction. 

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Shangheyed's picture

Cearly some were not around during the Cooper era...

MM is good as he compares to the afflicted... 

I would love to see him on a scUM site I am sure the verbage would be less reasoned...

MM is in the Buckeye lair... not judging those who up vote him, or down vote him....  but for me the only up vote he will get is when he sees the light... and becomes a Buckeye!

It's not what would Jesus do... its what would Woody do...

AndyVance's picture

It's not what would Jesus do... its what would Woody do...

Um, you do realize that one of Woody's best friends coached at That School Up North for a long, long time, right? Let put it like Wes Mantooth put it to Ron Burgandy: "From deep down in my stomach, with every inch of me, I pure, straight hate you. But goddammit, do I respect you!"

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Shangheyed's picture

You're cute Andy... 

AndyVance's picture

Thanks... Mom, is that you?

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

Unfortunately, there are some of our kind who will play into their emotions first rather than their inner voice of reason... wait, I think we have all been medicated too long with the successes of Tressel and Urban to hear that voice...

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

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11UrbzAndSpices's picture

We have serial DVers here, am I going to have to follow around MMan and UV everything he says?

Does anyone know if BucksFan changed his icon?