PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
A college team would NEVER, EVER beat an NFL team. It wouldn't even be close.
This is just as dumb as when people said Kentucky could've beaten an NBA team.
No collegiate team will ever come close to beating a professional team. The Wizards would have stomped Kentucky last year, just like the Colts woud have stomped Alabama or LSU. There's a reason they're called professional leagues.
I think Basketball is the one sport that it could potentially happen. I mean Lebron in College may have been able to lead a college team with some other talent past a crappy NBA team, but it would take a special talent like that. Kentucky last year had absolutely no one who wouldn't have been dominated by an NBA player at the same position. Again, it would take an amazing talent like James who is just a freak of nature, and some very talented pieces around him, but I could see it.
A college football team would get physically hurt and badly. The college QB probably wouldn't make it off the field in one piece and that's no joke.
Even with a guy like LeBron, I think a college team would still get dominated. Too much speed/size/strength.
Didn't Lebron play with a college team (in terms of talent) in Cleveland and took them to the NBA finals? Still don't think Kentucky could beat any NBA team, but just sayin'.
I hate this conversation so much. It happens each year a team like Bama has its way with college football. The KC Chiefs would hang 40 on Bama, Cleveland would beat them by 4 TDs, The Panthers would probably score 80 on them and even the Jaguars would smash this team.
There are probably Bama wideouts and CB's that can run with their pro counterparts on said bad team but you really notice the difference up front. There is no way that the best O Line in CFB can block even the worst NFL front 7. There is no greater gap in all of sports between an amateur unit and their professional counterpart as there is between a collegiate O Line and NFL front 7.
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I think football would be a stretch but I ABSOLUTELY think Kentucky would beat a couple NBA teams.
Nope. Too much size\speed on even the worst NBA rosters.
How? The Wizards or Bobcats would have manhandled them last year.
That team was talented, for sure, but they would've been completely crushed by an NBA team, even the worst ones.
That Kentucky team had Davis, Miller, Jones, MKG, Teague, Lamb and Wiltjer. At best, 3 of those guys are NBA starters (Davis is definitely legit, MKG is a starter for the Bobcats). Right now, Teague is behind Kirk Hinrich for the Bulls, who is considered an average PG at best in the NBA. He'll be 3rd string when Rose comes back. Darius Miller is a 3rd stringer for the horrible N.O. Hornets, and Terrence Jones is a 2nd stringer for the Rockets. Once you factor in the question of depth, even last year's Bobcats would pound that Kentucky team. In 10 games, that Kentucky team MIGHT have been able to keep it within single digits, only because those Bobcats may have been the worst team in NBA history.
When it comes to the NFL, the talent gap is even more enormous. Even some of the greatest college teams of all time only had a few players go on to be consistent NFL starters. Can you imagine the Texas or USC team from 2005 led by Matt Leinart or Vince Young (who ended up being terrible even with NFL weapons around them) going up against NFL defenses when their offensive playmakers were guys like Dwayne Jarrett, Steve Smith, Lendale White, Billy Pittman and Limas Sweed? Not to mention the fact that any NFL defensive line would utterly destroy their offensive lines on every snap.
2002 Miami had Willis McGahee, Roscoe Parish, Sean Taylor, Andre Johnson, Antrel Rolle, Devin Hester (freshman), Jonathan Vilma, Kellen Winslow, the list goes on... and they STILL lost to a college team. The Cheifs or the Browns would hang 40+ on Alabama. The gap in talent and depth is just too large. All you have to do is watch an NFL game even between crappy teams to notice how much faster and harder-hitting the game is at that level.
Crazy stat about that game-53 players who played in that game-the size of an NFL gameday roster were eventually drafted into the NFL. The 2004 Draft saw each school set a record with Miami sending 6 first round picks while OSU broke a record for most players drafted with 14 (that I think has since been broken but I'm not totally sure).
There may not have been a better display of talent between two rosters in any college football game before or after that magical night in Tempe. Just crazy.
It's funny how people consider the USC-Texas game to have had the two best teams in recent memory, when in reality it was the 2002 MNC. Shows how people continue to disrespect that Ohio State team even today. Every time I watch that game I'm amazed by all of the names of players that went on to the NFL.
Those USC and Texas teams also didn't play any defense at all, which is another thing that separates NFL from NCAA.
To be fair, that game saw 59 players get drafted and had two heisman winners and the runner up to one of them having a direct impact on the game.
Most definitely, and without a doubt the most exciting college football game of all time. Nothing better than a gamewinning touchdown drive led by the Heisman Trophy winner in the Rose Bowl.
Your point is great. This is the same with either football or basketball.
OK we can say Kentucky last year had what 3 NBA starters and a few NBA bench dudes so like maybe 5 NBA players total on their team. GUESS WHAT? Every Single NBA team ever had 5 NBA starters and 12 NBA players. The Math will never work out in favor of college.
When ppl say NCAA teams are "stacked" with NFL talent usually that means something like 25-35% of the team AT BEST makes an NFL roster at some point. Every single NFL team is 100% NFL talent. By definition this discussion should never happen.
Really?? Kentucky has had 4-5 first round picks the past few years. Most of those guys went straight to the starting lineup on their respective NBA team. Besides John Wall, who on the Wizards roster would start on Kentucky's team?
Jordan Crawford, Ronny Turiaf, JaVale McGee, and Rashard Lewis were all on the 2011-2012 Wizards. They would have run in circles around Kentucky.
Edit: Also, besides John Wall name a single one of those UK players that has made an impact..
DeMarcus Cousins has gotten a coach or two fired.
Sure, they've had 1st round picks the last few years, but none of those individual Kentucky teams had enough talent or depth to beat even the worst NBA teams. Kentucky last year had a seven-man rotation with 6 players that got drafted. 2 of them are NBA starters: Anthony Davis for the Hornets and MKG for the Bobcats. The rest are 3rd stringers for terrible teams. I mean, Teague is behind f***ing Kirk Hinrich right now, and he's an average NBA PG at best. There is too big of a gap in talent and depth between the NBA and College.
Alot of Kentucky's players are one and done. One year out of high school.
Kobe and Garnett didn't dominate NBA games in their first year, and Cleveland didn't make the playoff's in Lebron's 1st year, neither did OKC and Durant. These are some of the best players of the past 10-12 years.
Consistent outside shooting and an "NBA body" are things the kids at Kentucky don't have, and the lack of this is why they would get smoked by any NBA team.
The only NBA team that I have seen, that I doubt at all, in beating the college NC winner, may be the Cavaliers roster they scraped up, when they were trying for the worst league record and Lebron draft rights. Ricky Davis was garbage.
I think OBC jumped the shark a couple years ago. I used to like his crazy and/or fire-starting comments but now that he's getting a little older and never wins, I find his act tired and annoying.
I know he's in the almighty SEC and all but dude has one more 10+ games in just one of the last seven seasons, losing at least six games in six of those seven seasons.
He's basically irrelevant to me at this point in his career.
Is this thread really becoming an actual discussion of whether any college team could beat a pro team? It seems to me that the intent was to ridicule Spurrier for making such a stupid statement.
By all means, debate the idea if you like. The whole concept just seems a little silly to me.
Grown men vs. kids. How many 18-19 year olds not named LeBron James come into the NBA and do anything. Take a roster full of 18-21 year olds and ask them to beat a team that is older, stronger, faster, more experienced.
No college team in basketball or football can beat a pro team. It just can't happen. Size and speed.
I completely agree in football, but it seems like--at least physically--high school basketball players (at least the elite ones) don't require the same "transformation" that is required of football players.
Don't think any college team can beat an NBA squad, but I think that UK-Washington would be closer than 'Bama-KC. Granted, this is also because UK's starting five are all elite players, while that eschelon of talent is damn-near impossible to duplicate in college football, where you need 22 starters of said caliber.
I read a quote once on collegefootballnews.com that always stuck with me. I can't remember what year it was, maybe 2008, but I think it was Fiutak's Cavalcade of Whimsy. He said something to the effect of "The 0-16 Detroit Lions would annihilate an SEC slate (which, of course, would have to include whatever SEC team was the best in that given year), and blow away whatever team they faced in the BCS national championship."
This Alabama program is a dynasty right now. They are going to win the national championship this year, and therefore will be the first team to repeat as national champs since the mid-1990's Nebraska. The Tide would find it hard to score a single field goal against an NFL defense.
And yes, Spurrier is a douche for saying that.
Ol Ball Coach is starting to lose it.....time to retire, or go back to Gator-ville when Willy "The Psycho" Muschamp bails for his true love - Texas - upon Mack Brown's departure.....
I agree, he looks terrible throwing fits on the sidlines.
They could beat the Redskins team he coached. BA-ZING!!!
"I like to kick Michigan's ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of gum."
This is hyperbole at its worst. As good as Alabama is, they couldn't keep up. And "BA-ZING" indeed Nova!
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Football no Basketball of course
If those kids stayed in school at Kentucky they absolutely could
It seems like spurrier has the toggle switch flipped on the old man mouth filter to the off position. This happens when a certain age is reached I think.
or he's just crazy.
I know there's a game saturday, and my ass will be there.
Kentucky last year would of been demolished by even the worst NBA team. John Wall was the Wizzards PG, he would of destroyed Teague. Davis, while a great player in college would of been completely dominated down low by an NBA caliber center. Davis will not be a center in the NBA, he's going to be a 4. The one guy on UK last year who would of matched up very well against NBA talent was Terrance Jones. If that guy ever gets his head out of his ass, he's going to be a hell of a player. He has a huge frame, he's fast, he can drive to the basket, and he can hit 3's. He can also jump out of the gym. My UK fan friends all say Davis is the man etc, but I think Terrance Jones will be the best NBA player off of that team last year.
He has the body and skill set to be a Lebron Like player. I'm not saying he'll be Lebron, there's truly only one, but he has the chance to be a matchup nightmare.
Honestly, I think the 2010 wildcat team would of had a better shot against an NBA team than the 2012 version. That 2010 team had the starting and backup PG and Center drafted in the first round along with their starting PF. Both of Wall and Bledsoe were better PGs than Teague. Patterson was a very good 4, who could step out and hit 3's like a 3. Cousins was a great low post player. Liggins and Miller, who are both in the NBA came off the bench. That team was loaded with talent. I think it was a better team talent wise.
Back to the comments made by Spurrier, the guy is an idiot and he will say or do anything to get himself on TV or in the paper. Spurrier's loves Spurrier. This idiotic comment and the ridiculous comments he made about Clemson's coach and the kind words he had about Lattimore show what kind of clown the Old Ball coach is. I can't stand that guy.
Maybe Spurrier is trying to get Saban to the NFL. Carrol left the PAC-10(yes he had too but!) the conference went kinda open after the fall of Southern Cal. Spurrier knows he has a cold's chance in hell to win the SEC with Saban riding high in Tuscaloosa. Just a thought on why he would S bama's D like that because it can't help his cause any other way.
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For a long time there was a pre-season football game that featured a college all star team versus the NFL champion. Granted pre-season, but the All stars did win a few along the way (I remember Larry Csonka running crazy in that game).
That was a much, much different time in the evolution of a football player. OSU has one of the premier S&C\Nutrition programs in the nation and that has nothing on that of an NFL team. The gap between even your most physically daunting collegiate player and 'average' NFL player is so massive.
For funsies-A Vegas oddsmaker set the Jaguars (closest NFL team in point spread) as a 25 point favorite over Bama.
I'd imagine a team like New England, Atlanta, NYG or Chicago would be upwards of 40 something.
I think everyone has missed the point. Spurrier was using this as a way to tweak the nose of Saban. He in no way was serious about that comment because he understands the talent level in the NFL. Spurrier was just trying to find a chink in Alabama's well-paid armor, that's all.
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