PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
Unfortunately I saw this coming. Man it would've been nice to have him in Columbus.
Looks to me that after last years LB haul as well as currently having Shazier & Grant - the top prospects for 2013 (see Anzalone & Neal decommits) aren't interested in coming to tOSU as they don't want to compete with all those guys for pt...I think we might not see another LB in 2013 because of this.
Edit: the above statement is in no way, shape, or form a knock against any recruit at all. I just think that part of the reason we're having a hard time with LBs in particular this year is because we got loads of great ones last year...
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
He'll definitely see the field immediately in South Bend. He'd have to wait until he's a junior if he went to OSU.
Im sure Urban didn't give him a commitable offer. Right?
"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field."
Apparently his OSU offer wasn't a committable offer. Hopefully Urbans strategy of being so picky won't come back to bite us.
You guys think that the (arguably) best OLB in the country, whose brother is on the damn team, didn't have a committable offer? You're out of your mind.
He'll see the field immediately at Notre Dame, and he would have at Ohio State too. He is, in my opinion, one of the top three recruits in the country. He could play S, CB, OLB, ILB, and WSE at an elite level.
I was being sarcastic. Everyone thinks Urban is some god who thinks he can get any player he wants. Then they go elsewhere and we all say the offer wasn't commitable or we didnt need him anyway. Let's just call it how it is, Hoke and Kelley are doing just as well, if not better than Urban
I think "just as well" would be the most accurate. Plenty of people--not you--like to live in a dream world where Michigan is still coached by RichRod and Notre Dame is still under Kevin White's direction (i.e. hiring bad coach after bad coach). The fact is both of those programs have stepped their game up big time.
This next decade will be awesome because Ohio State, Michigan, and Notre Dame all have very good/great coaches for the first time in decades.
Notre Dame will continue to be irrelevant. That is all.
"You win with people." - Woody Hayes
This. I'll be surprised if Kelly is still at ND in 2015.
Best of luck to Jaylon. You have to go where you feel is best.
And honestly, to the poster farther up, no one thinks UFM gets whoever he wants, but he's historically done ridiculously well in recruiting. Facts are facts, and we view him as one of the top coaches in the country. And the whole commitable, non-commitable thing is accurate quite often. Jaylon obviously had a commitable offer. But there are a number of recruits who don't. Not every time, but a good amount of times that a kid has committed elsewhere he hasn't had a commitable offer. Just what it is, not excuses.
I'd be very surprised if he wasn't there in 2015. He's improved that squad tremendously. 2011 was a quarterback away from be a very formidable team. 2012 will be a transitional year through a ridiculous schedule, but 2013 onward we should all see the Kelly success that we saw at Cincinnati/Central Michigan/etc.
They may continue to be irrelevant to you and fans of teams who rival them in one way or another, but you'd be a fool to think that your opinion actually mattered. The opinions of fans and media outlets do not matter at all. The only opinions that matter are those of recruits, and let's not act like plenty of them don't give Notre Dame a very serious look. They are still a midwest recruiting power.
Programs need three things to be successful, 1) wherewithal, 2) coaches, 3) patience. If you don't have all three, the program will fall down a notch or two. Notre Dame has always had the wherewithal, but post-Holtz they made four incorrect coaching hires and it cost them nearly two decades. Now that they have very good coach, they will rise again. It always happens--almost every program in the country has had a down decade. I think Michigan and Ohio State are the only programs to not have rougly a decade of mediocrity (which is amazing).
USC, Texas, and Oklahoma all had a rough 1990's. Penn State and Florida State has a rather mediocre 2000's. Miami is currently down. Alabama was down post-Bryant. It's all about coaching and money; again, you'd have to be pretty ignorant to think that when these elite programs get a very good coach that they'll continue to be "irrelevant."
I'll be happy with any combination of Booker, Garrett, James, Ferns, and McMillan.
I live near Ft. Wayne, and have watched Jaylon Smith play. I honestly don't get all the hype. He plays against lower level talent. I don't see why everyone thinks he's the number 1 OLB in the nation. He's very good..... but best in the country? Not a chance. Most of his hghlights are against bad teams (Eastside, Northrop, Carroll, Northside, Wayne)
Robert Rose was also a 5 star DL, and never made an impact while at tOSU. I'm sure Jaylon will play early at Notre Dame, like another guy said, He wouldn't see the field until his JR year here. He's been quoted in saying "coaches tell you what you want to hear, Thats what happened to my brother Rod." I would have liked to have this guy, but I don't think he's as good as advertised. JMO
Dustin Fox was our leading tackler as a corner.... because his guy always caught the ball.
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