Kalis Discusses His Michigan Decision

July 11, 2011 at 2:37p    by Jason Priestas    
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741's picture

Another reason to continue to take great pleasure in each and every victory over Michigan - may there be many more.

Matt's picture

I don't fault the kid for making the decision based on the uncertainty of sanctions, although ultimately I think it's a bit overblown for a 2012 freshman to worry about the relatively light sanctions coming our way when he won't see starting time until after any bowl ban would have run its course.  I do think its questionable to assume that Hoke will be a winner at U-Mich -- equating a 47-50 career coaching record with success is questionable at best.  It's much more understandable to me that Dodson chose Wisconsin, which has a proven track record of success in recent years, especially at producing O-linemen.  Missing out on Dodson is going to hurt us more than missing Kalis.

Jason Priestas's picture

Until February comes, I'll be holding out hope that we can flip both Dodson and Kalis. Especially if the NCAA agrees with or only slightly tweaks OSU's self-punishment.

tampa buckeye's picture

Take this to the bank.  There will be no post season ban.  

Maestro's picture

Even if there is a post season ban, and it's for 2011, then these recruits will never feel its pain.  I am holding out hope that this just gets done quickly so whatever the punishment is it can be done and over with before signing day 2012.  Of course, besides the probation stuff.

vacuuming sucks

tampa buckeye's picture

We will know for sure in aug.  but trust me on this one.   Ohio State is too important ($$$) to take out of the loop for a year or two.  

 

Jason Priestas's picture

Actually, we'll likely know for sure sometime around October. And then, if needed, there will be an appeals process.

tampa buckeye's picture

I'm just telling you what I've heard from people close to the program.  No post season ban.  

 

Powers's picture

"I want a solid, grounded coaching staff with a safe environment. Where there aren't such tough questions."

Does he forget UM had a whole new unproven coaching staff as well?

Johnny Ginter's picture

i think he's just aware that fickell might be a one and done deal, and he doesn't want to be on a team where that's a possibility. i mean, being from ohio, if i were offered by OSU i would've taken it no matter who was the coach, but i can still understand his decision

btalbert25's picture

The coaching situation is scarry at the moment.  We really don't know what we are getting here, and we'd like to think if it doesn't work out they'll just waltz out and pick up whoever they want.  Michigan has had the same attitude TWICE. 

If Fickel is good, it's going to help recruiting.  If Fickel gets the boot and they school finds a worthy replacement fast, it's going to help recruiting. What will hurt is a long drawn out coaching search where we settle on the 5th option.

biggy84's picture

Call me delusional, but i don't ever see OSU settling for a 5th option!

btalbert25's picture

I would've never thought Michigan would struggle to find the right coach either, but they did 2 times.  UK and UNC basketball both went through transitions with horrible head coaches too.  If those programs aren't immune to "settling"  no one is.

biggy84's picture

There are far too many former OSU alumni and assistants to ever resort to that. UK did not have that. UNC had guys in their pipeline that didn't work out before Williams (a former assistant) took the job. I don't believe UNC had to resort to their 5th choice either.

Johnny Ginter's picture

jim tressel was like the third or fourth option, iirc

biggy84's picture

Who else did they offer the job to?

Matt's picture

A University isn't going to publicly offer the job to get spurned; those things are done in private so the parties can save face.  Walt Harris and Mike Bellotti were definitely preferred over Tressel, but they begged off.  Another guy who I can't recall now was also heavily considered but declined interest -- maybe Gruden.  Mason was also considered but was a lesser candidate, while Spiels got a courtesy interview.  I think Tress was the 4th option.

btalbert25's picture

I think it's fair to say Tressel would've been higher up the list had it not been for program trouble at YSU though.  I just don't want a fiasco like what we've seen at other schools.  Bottom line, other schools had a target or 2 in mind and whiffed on them then had to settle.  I don't want to see that happen with Ohio State.  Best case scenario, Fickel ends up being great.  I don't know if it's likely or not, but worst case is going out there and finding a guy who just doesn't fit or Fickel doesn't do well and they keep him on board.  To think it's totally impossible for Ohio State to settle for someone they don't neccessarily love is a bit foolish.  If it can happen at other huge programs across the 2 revenue sports, it can happen here too.  Maybe UNC never settled but Daugherty was terrible.  Billy Gillespie was horrible.  We witnessed what DickRod was.  Are they the 5th choice, well maybe not, but they weren't the first choice or 2nd. 

biggy84's picture

Billy G could party! I threw down a few with him me self.

NoVA Buckeye's picture

UK fans dont like it when their program is considered nothing more than a bubble team

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

tampa buckeye's picture

This kid is jumping the gun.  He has no idea what is going to happen with the NCAA.  This battle isn't over yet.  I could see him jumping ship when no post season ban is the verdict.  Either way he's a solid guard but doesn't have the feet to play tackle in the big ten.  I pray that michigan puts this kid at tackle and OSU destroys the scum QB for 4 years.

btalbert25's picture

I have a feeling Hoke did a great job of convincing this kid(scaring the hell out of him) that if he comes to Ohio State he'll never get to play in a bowl, and all these scholarships are going to be lost so he will be playing with a bunch of scrubs his senior year.  He obviously also bashed Fickell quite a bit with the old, he's never been a head coach routine. 

I have questions myself about as to whether or not Fickell will be any good, and he certainly isn't my favorite pick to lead this team.  However, by February when it's time to sign on the dotted line, there won't be uncertainty anymore.  Fickel could prove he's a good coach or fail and be gone, in which case a new coach will likely be appointed by then, especially if there is a bowl ban this season. 

I said it in the forum, you don't win the recruiting war in July it's won in January and February.  By the time signing day hits, there will be no cloud of uncertainty around Ohio State.  Scaring kids about the uncertain future of Ohio State will no longer work, because everything will be certain.  When these verbals opt to come back to Ohio, the only comfort Brady will have is the Gravy IV's he gets every day.

RBuck's picture

The main thing for recruiting is how soon the NCAA rules. If it drags into next year we're gonna be hurting. I'll take the expected bowl ban for this year, thank you. Just don't sit on your ass NCAA!

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Pam's picture

Does he not know that UM is on probation? What is up with the "safe environment" stuff?

biggy84's picture

I was thinking the same thing Pam. "I don't want to pay for the mistakes of others, so i'm going to a school on probation that i didn't create either."

btalbert25's picture

He's a 17 year old, making the most important decision of his life, and he's had the coaching staff from one school in his ear the whole time filling his head with BS about what's going to happen to Ohio State. 

biggy84's picture

The days of naive 17 year olds are over. Recruits are much more informed now than they used to be. With social media, the internet and unlimited sports sites, these recruits are not in the dark about anything. It's not like these recruits just have the small town paper to rely on.

btalbert25's picture

And how much of the stuff on the internet says Ohio State's penalties won't be so bad?  11W, that's about it lol.  So the g uy gets on the web every day and reads Ohio State isg oing to get hammered like USC.  Then he has that the Michigan coaches in his ear non stop saying hey you don't want to go there.  They have a guy running the team who has never been a head coach and he probably won't be there past this year.  Their program is going to get nailed.  When you get several calls a day from a coach bashing Ohio State, and read all the garbage that's out there, it's going to influence you.  In fact, it would probably be better if the recruit only had the small town paper to rely on. 

I'm 30 and I don't understand half the crap the NCAA can rule on or not rule on, what a standard for their sanctions are etc.  So, if I'm a kid trying to decide what school I'm going to, yeah I'm listenning to guys who can guarrenttee that I'm playing in a bowl game, who can tell me this guy will be my coach for the next 4 years etc.  Bottom line, when these questions arise, and he asks Fickel for answers, Fickel can't give him anything right now.

gravey's picture

It's interesting how little he said about Michigan that was on the mark.  Clearly this is about negative recruiting, not what's right about TSUN.  Weak. Negative recruiting. That crap is for losers.

Scott K's picture

The quote listed at the top is perfect: definition of a NON team player.  Go to tsun Kalis. But the crap i've been reading about him getting in other ohio player's ears to join him is bs.  F that kid.  I said it before:  Can't wait to see him get smoked by the silver bullets....

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

William's picture

I agree with you Scott, this kid's attitude is really poor in comparison to Curtis Grant's or Braxton Miller's. As Tampa has already stated he doesn't move like a tackle, but he could be an excellent guard. I still think there is a chance we sign him but I would rather us go hard after Dodson. Screw the negative recruiting we've been getting, we need to get Vrabel out there flashing his Super Bowl rings to recruits ASAP.

M Man's picture

I'll say it; this was a quote that never needed to be uttered, and there's not much point to it.  "NCAA sanctions," such as they may be, are probably the least vaild reason for Kalis to come to Michigan.

There is an excellent set of good reasons for him to come, that have nothing to do with OSU's travails with the NCAA.  Freshman Kalis going to be behind one of the better O-lines in the conference this year, but there will be lots of potential for playing time after that.

There's one other thing to be said:  We had three guys exposed to the press at the All-American Youth Football Camp at Patriot Park.  Denard Robinson, Marvin Robinson and Courtney Avery were there, as was Kenny Guiton, Jamaal Berry and a couple of their teammates, and to a man, the Michigan guys took zero pleasure in any OSU troubles, and wished the best for things to get settled on the field the right way.

Denard:

"You want to play a team when they're at the top, not the bottom," Robinson said. "These (OSU) guys (at the youth camp) say they're going to be at their best. They're working hard, so that's a good thing."

MRob:

"We wish the best for those guys," Marvin Robinson said. "They've got great talent on their team. I enjoy playing them; it's a great rivalry. We just hope to keep it how it used to be -- a great rivalry, a great game."

Avery:

"You can't control what can happen," Avery said, advising OSU players not to let the slow-turning wheels of NCAA justice serve as a distraction. "If you can't control it, you can't worry about it. Whatever happens is going to happen anyway."

That ought to be the model for Michigan; if you really have to say something about OSU, let it be something like that.

 

 

 

Scott K's picture

Agreed.  I think this is an important voice that often is overlooked:  the players.  Most, on both sides of the state line, have always voiced this same opinion.  They respect each other, play their hearts out, and just get on with it.  They say it's always the hardest/roughest game they ever play in, but also the cleanest game.  A game born of mutaly respect (and animostiy).

It unfortunately is the vocal minority fanbases that end up coloring situations in ways that often are not reflected on the field.

While fan bases tend to enjoy when a rival receives bad press, I don't think any "real" fan takes pleasure in beating a rival when the playing field isn't level.  I know players want to beat a team or rival that's at 100% strength.  Thus, while I've enjoyed the 9-1 run over the past 10 years, only the hard fought, evenly matched games have been the ones that were truly epic and worthy of the rivaly.  That's what makes our rivalry the best in sports.  While I don't wish tsun any further recruiting success in the state of Ohio, I do not wish ill will upon their program either.  Let the recruiting battles continue, but let the recruits choose their schools based upon right intentions and the desire to play for that school/coach. I hope tsun gets back to full strength, so that when the Bucks beat them, it feels like more than just a win.  It feels like something truly special. 

"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever.  David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel

biggy84's picture

Good info M MAN! Appreciated!

NoVA Buckeye's picture

Kalis didnt come to osu with the fear that bollman will make him a bum, just like with alex boone

The offseason begins when your season ends. Even then there are no days off.

BuckeyeSki's picture

If that was his direct quote, honestly, I could accept that

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The Six Fingered Buckeye's picture

Lifelong Buckeyes fan and you decommit? Ok, fine, I can see that.

 

Commit to TSUN? EABOD and DIAF, Kalis.

Please, be honest. This is for science.