Evaluating the Past, Projecting the Future

By Kyle Rowland on January 6, 2014 at 9:15a
Urban Meyer and his staff still have some work to do.

Evaluating events is a tricky business. If you look back too soon, perspective isn’t always included in the process. Just days after Ohio State’s loss to Clemson in the Orange Bowl, the wounds from a second consecutive loss to end a once promising season remain open. But 2013 was far from a throwaway year.

Steps were taken to win the national championship, flaws emerged and now Ohio State enters the long offseason looking to right those wrongs. The process will begin immediately and with a work ethic that’s among the best in the nation.

Less than a month ago, the Buckeyes were in the midst of a 24-game winning streak, a fairy-tale beginning of the Urban Meyer era that seemed to defy the odds. Now an equally shocking two-game losing streak is attached to the program.

Primetime wins over Wisconsin, Northwestern and Penn State seem like they occurred in a far-off place. A dramatic final-minute defensive stand to hold off archrival Michigan happened years ago – or at least that’s how it feels to Central Ohioans. But Meyer chooses to find the good in an unhappy situation and point to a future that still burns bright.

“If you’d have told me when I walked out of that team meeting [two years ago] that this group would buy in and we’d go on a nice run and have the highest scoring offense in program history and 24 straight wins and all that, I‘d have looked at you and said, ‘You’re out of your mind,’” Meyer said. “But I didn't value the quality of person in this program, especially this senior group. This group turned into being unbelievable.”

Suddenly, there are more questions than answers, though. The biggest – Braxton Miller’s return – may have already been solved, but there remain riddles relating to the defense, a cohesive offensive line must be replaced and Ohio State must find a running back that can produce like Carlos Hyde.

NFL-bound linebacker Ryan Shazier summed everything up with a few words, saying the Buckeyes can’t be a national title contender if it continues allowing 40 points and 500 yards a game. Meyer put it even simpler than that: “We’ve got to get a lot better,” he said.

That goes for Miller, whose production tailed off significantly during a crucial November and December stretch run. He accounted for more than 3,000 yards of total offense on the season, but it’s the underwhelming five-game finish that gets remembered.

Meyer’s statement also groups together the offense and defense. While the defense yielded yards as if they were Christmas presents, gifting opponents with regularity, it was the offense that faltered on 4th and 2 in the Big Ten Championship Game and turned the ball over four times in the final 20 minutes of the Orange Bowl.

“We expect top-10 defense at Ohio State, top-10 offense and top-10 special teams, and I don’t believe we accomplished any of those,” Meyer said. “So we’ve just got to go out and recruit our tails off, develop players and work real hard with scheme. We’ll get there.”

Next season, it will probably take an unbeaten season for the Buckeyes to reach the new four-team playoff. The schedule is favorable once again and the pieces are in place to succeed, even with considerable losses on each side of the ball.

The most encouraging signs were the flashes young defenders showed Friday night. And as Meyer alluded to, another top-flight recruiting class will be welcomed to campus in February. It grew by two during Saturday’s U.S. Army All-American game, including the pickup of Ohio’s top player, athlete Marshon Lattimore.

Pausing for a moment allows one to fully appreciate what Ohio State did for the better part of two seasons. It didn’t win a conference or national championship, but the Buckeyes won 24 consecutive games, establishing a school record, and took fans on a joyride that won’t soon be forgotten.

For now, though, negativity resides at the forefront of most thoughts. Philly Brown’s Twitter mentions featured hundreds of negative comments after his fumbled punt return swung momentum to Clemson. Cornerback Bradley Roby, who missed the game with an injury, was criticized for what fans perceived as a selfish act, accusing him of protecting his draft status instead of matching up with Sammy Watkins.

Roby hit back at the unruly rob, tweeting, “The fact that people Tweeting at me sayin’ all this negativity is crazy to me. It makes me ashamed to even have played for y’all.” He went on to add, “To the true fans I truly appreciate it the support you have given me and this team over the years.”

In eight months, the cycle begins anew. Ohio State will take the field, fans will worship at the alter and Jerry World will become the destination of choice for early January, 2015.

Perspective will be far behind.


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Persian Eagle's picture

We have the players. Just need the coaches.

"There's nothing in the desert and No man needs nothing."

Buck Wild's picture

We do not have the players yet. Not on D or WR yet to compete at the highest level. Your kidding yourself if you think so.
The coaching schemes on D is a separate issue entirely...

"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying."
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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

How about this for perspective, reminiscing back to the beginning of the year.
We replaced 8 of 11 starters on defense this year.  With Bryant down, 9, with Roby out, 10.  That's a lot of inexperience, and it showed.  
I'm thankful for a great and entertaining season, heartbreaking at times, and look forward to next year where hopefully all of the talent we have, the young and the old, gets better.

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kmp10's picture

Can't disagree with any of your points... but I struggle understanding how and why the "inexperience" didn't make progress, but rather regressed as the season(s) under Fickell wore on. The inexperienced defense that took the field in September should have been improved by December... except it wasn't. It was actually worse. That's my problem with this defensive staff. They've had two years (three for Fickell) to show their stuff so to speak and it isn't working. Recruiting is important, obviously, but being able to develop the players you have, be they walk on's or 5 stars, is more important IMO. Look no further than Dantonio / Narduzzi to see how far player development gets you. They never have the top class in the B1G, let alone the country, but they always have a stout defense. It's time for changes, philosophically and schematically, on the defensive side of the ball at Oho State. The BG/Utah/Fla Urban Meyer would not have put up with this ineptitude... I hope the OSU Urban Meyer is just as aggressive.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

You are right, the defense seemed to regress.  However, the level of competition improved as well.  Also, injuries compiled and we lost guys or were playing with injuries which limited what we could do.  I think the Clemson game should be slightly separated from the rest of the season given that we played 3 new DBs in this game against a team that has NFL passing and receiving talent - the best we'd seen all year.  Urban has talked about depth all year and this year showed how thin we were.  Hopefully we'll see depth improve next year as many of the same faces we saw in the bowl game will be on the field again in 2014.  We've had a rough time dealing with player turnover and attrition over the past few seasons. 

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BuckeyeGrove's picture

Agree. I think it's difficult to understand the importance of depth, especially depth on the defensive side of the ball where usually if you want to have a top 10 squad you need to be able to rotate DL, LBs and DBs with little drop off. OSU wasn't close to doing that at any point this year, even with younger guys getting experience.
Next year should be better, but I still think we'll see issues through 2015. Hopefully a lot of guys can start to step up and contribute at a much higher level next year. Meyer needs to get a knock out hire at the DB level this offseason.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Exactly.  We may not be the silver bullet next year as you say, but then again, we may not need to be if we get Braxton to improve, an OL to come together and a RB to step up.  All three of those things are completely reasonable expectations. 
In order for the defense to get better, we need C. Grant and Perry to growth through experience and become more serviceable LBs against the run and pass. We need D. Grant to become a DB leader.  Powell, Reeves, Bell and another OLB need to step up and into new roles (again, 4 new faces in the back 7 next year could be the same problem).  The execution errors in the back 7 need to stop.  They are severely limiting what we can and can't do.  I think the DL will be fine, but they need to generate pressure consistently next year, this could also help mask the back seven deficiencies.

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andretolstoy's picture

Our backfield regressed. Our front remained consistently above average to average. We were rated pretty high against the run.

Bamabucknut's picture

Right on !
The time for words is over. The time for action to correct our coaching problems is NOW.
When you cannot win your conference(and we haven't for  several years)...talk of a national championship is just that.....talk.

Bucks777's picture

Agree 100% , we have recruited top talent, the talent is here; and it is rotting away due to piss poor coaching!!!

buckeyes763's picture

Inexperience only goes so far in explaining the defenses problems. But you could have put NFL pro-bowlers out their against Clemson and it wouldn't have made a difference when your scheme has you play 8-10 yards off the line  and let them throw screen passes ALL DAY LONG. 

SnooBucki's picture

I'm still licking my wounds from Friday night but its hard not to be excited about the future. We are getting the recruits and I have faith that Urban is going to get the right coaches in place to take us where we want to go. I just want to get that National respect back. You would think we are the biggest joke in college football the way people talk.

Bamabucknut's picture

When two teams that are not top 10 teams beat you.....and set school records doing it(like the teams we played earlier in the season)....the image of a paper tiger grows.

DeepSouthBuckeye's picture

Unfortunately, until we win a National Title, we will not have the respect of the national media. Simple as that. Might as well expect the narrative going forward/  

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RufusVonDufus's picture

Someone on Eleven Warriors the other day said that a few hours after the loss to Clemson was not the time to be firing Fickell and the D coaches and I absolutely agree with that comment.   Now, the reason I agree with that comment is because I believe the time to be firing Fickell and the D coaches was the first time in the second half of the Michigan game that Michigan successfully ran that throwback pass for a gain of more than three yards.  That would have been the correct time to fire all of them.    I fear we are going to have the same problems next year.    Fickell has had his chances.


mfleft13's picture

I don't mean to be swinging an "ignorant" sword around, but doesn't Fickell carry alot of weight with recruits? Isn't that what UFM really values in an assistant? Maybe he could be pointed in that direction more heading forward vs. designing the defensive gameplan?

SoDakBuckeyeFan's picture

Buckeye fans better find your shades because the future is extremely bright. The young talent on this team is unbelievable. Joey Bosa will be a premier D-lineman before his Buckeye career is over and Urban is bringing in the top shelf talent in droves. These last two games really stung but I for one have never been more excited to be a buckeye fan. One of the announcers at the army all America game said it best "if you're going to buy stock, buy stock in the Ohio State Buckeyes."


Grayskullsession's picture

I really though Urban was going to do something about the defense after the Illinois game. And then game after game the defense seemed to be ignored and even regress. I REALLY hope we hit a home run or even just get an RBI with the new DC hire. This pitiful defense cannot continue.

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Bucks777's picture

If Urban decides to keep fickell, coombs and continue down this path of defense. He then puts his endorsement on them and their schemes; This is by far  one of the WORST OSU defenses in the History of Ohio State Football.
That being said at what point do you start to blame Urban for allowing them to stay aboard and continue this horrendous defensive plan.  It's very very simple it has not worked for over 2 years now, so fickell and coombs have had their chances. Some of the WORST defense I have ever , ever seen!!!!!

Bamabucknut's picture

If we see this kind of defensive performance in 2014......Urban owns it....all of it.

buckeye_chick's picture

I just don't understand how we *still* cannot defend screen passes. I never played or coached the game, so I can't tell if it's a lack of player talent, a lack of coaching talent, or a lack of execution (which, btw, is what Spielman says the problem is if you listen to his Monday radio shows). All I know is I'm sick of seeing it. You just cannot call yourself an elite program when you give up that many yards and points to anyone (I still shake my head when I think of giving up 600 yards to TTUN!). I really hope Urban gets this figured out...and soon.

saevel25's picture

Screen passes are either hoping the offense throws to a situation were you have a +1 scenario. If not then the defenders have to shed their blocks better. The DB's didn't do that at all. Screen passes are really not about scheme, its about a player being able to dominate their space and make a play. 
I wouldn't put this on Fickle. Urban has shown that one person can not run a whole team. Basically Fickle overseas this position coaches. To me the issue is the DB's coach. I am not entirely sure if Combs is over his head or not being a DB's coach. I don't mind him being special teams. Fickle is a good linebackers coach. I think Vrable has done a good job on the defensive line. The weak link is combs, which I hate to say because I like the guy. 

Bucks777's picture

I agree whole heartily, I love coombs as a person and motivator, but our DB's are some of the worst in the country, heck I watched B.C and North Carolina State DB's against Clemson, they looked leaps and bounds above our players.
Because they have real DB coaches .

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

I think it's both lack of execution combined with lack of "talent" (insert experience).  My take is for the Clemson game at least is that we played a lot of young guys in the secondary and we didn't want to make it easy for Clemson with man coverage and getting beat deep on a single play.  The plan, as Meyer said at the half, was to keep everything in front of us.  The new guys were tentative on the screens, taking a bit too long to trigger and having a difficult time getting off blocks.  It's reasonable that we struggled to get off blocks because we had freshman and sophomores out there against Clemson's NFL ready WRs....NFL ready in size and skill.  We were outmatched here no matter what we did and we chose to try and make them drive the field.  We did make a few stops.  Let's not forget that we had stopped Clemson with a 9 point lead, but we then gave them 2 short fields in a row.  With this defense, we all knew that we couldn't do that.  We didn't bring our best game on either side of the ball and we lost.  These things happen.

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Bamabucknut's picture

If you watched the Oklahoma vs Alabama game.
..or the Michigan State vs Stanford game...you saw what good defenses look like.
We are not even close to their levels. I don't think it is the players.We have been getting great classes.It's the coaching of the players and the tactics of the  defensive play calling.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Not exactly.  Look at 2010 and 2011 recruiting classes.  Look at LBs and DBs.  The "misses" in those classes have created the team with depth issues we have today.  It's why we had to play so many young guys this year.  
This is where I disagree with so many people.  We have young, raw talent.  We don't have a roster full of developed talent because of attrition for one reason or another.  The defenses you talk of are full of juniors and seniors who had years in one system.  So much of what we do on defense lies not just in the capabilities of the players (talent), but in their comprehension of the defense, scheme and their role/position in all of it.

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okiebuck's picture

Oklahoma's defense played their best game of the year vs Bama; after getting torched through the air by Baylor and on the ground by Texas, both routs.  

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

Bucks777's picture

I'll take high school kids and teach them better than Coombs; and they would had performed better against Clemson.  period!  They would have taken one of the WR screens to the house for 6 points and would not have been more than 2 yards from Sammy Watkins all night!!!
This is not saying we don't have the talent, because we definitely do, just has not been developed, and coached up right!

HotSauceCommittee's picture

I not only cant understand why we cant defend them, but I dont understand why in the last five years we dont run them ourselves. Sure, we had maybe 5 or 6 to Hyde this season, but that isnt many.   

Buckeye06's picture

I'm fully over Friday night.  I was disappointed in the result of course, but the same issues that plagued the D last year and parts of this year were not fixed.  I don't know who is the end game in this, and why OSU can't play press coverage at all.  What I do know is that both Webb and Smith were able to play it in the AA game Saturday.  I hope Fickell goes to watch other team schemes and figures out a way to play man, at least at times.  I mean it is fine to play a softer zone on 3rd and 8, not on 3rd and 2. 
Here is to 8 months off before the Chase begins again.  OSU will be back, bigger and better than ever

Balkestud's picture

We have the guys on this team to play man-press. Remember when Cam Burrows played and shut down his guy? The problem was Fickell, for whatever reason, didn't want to play any of the young guys. Considering what we know now, we should have had Cam and Vonn as are starting safeties to start the year. They would have made alot of early mistakes but at least they would have been agressive mistakes. Plus I guarentee you by the end of the year they would have been alot better than what we had out there. To chime in on the screen thing, our outside LB's should have done a better job getting out there instead of getting sucked inside. I don't know if anybody else noticed but our corners gave up the edge on most of those screens as well and you will never stop a WR screen doing that. Not doing that is the first thing they teach a corner in Pop Warner.

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Bamabucknut's picture

Who hires people and then asks them to figure out how to do their job ?
The government is the only one I know who would tolerate that.

Blackbeards Delight's picture

It doesn't surprise me that Millers production declined when the competition slightly improved, then turned nice (MSU). When you look at the defense he faced in practice on a daily bases, he probably looked like Aaron Rodgers. I'm not knocking the players one bit, I know they're bringing it. Lack of fundamentals being taught + poor scheme = bad defense. I've thought this and read it here as well but MSU is doing more with less athletic players on Defense because of coaching. I don't know who is to blame on that side of the ball and I know who coaches who but I'm not at the facility. We all know something has to change and every time I come to 11w I'm hoping to see that article.

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Crumb's picture

Our time will come again. I believe in Urban. And it's like it's always been here at Ohio State with the program. You're held to a standard of excellence and fall below that standard and don't pick yourself up you won't last long. I've got faith that these guys are gonna do whatever it takes to right the ship, continue winning and eventually get conference and national championships.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

Bucks777's picture

Urban to start receiving blame ...for endorsing the defensive scheme, and game plans.
If he continues to endorse Fickell and Coombs, we are going to have great recruits; that can't play a lick of college D1 football, mark my words!

Bucks777's picture

Urban in charge of QB development?  I mean if we look at Tebow , we all know he is not that accurate, and I am just beginning to wonder if we need a professional in here to teach our QB's to develop them into what they should be, and need to be!  
**  I am a huge Tebow fan; and I do think very highly of him!  I believe he deserves more time to develop as well.

fanfarris's picture

How about K G as a QB coach ??


BucksFan2000's picture

Not sure why everyone is into the "blame the coaches" thing right now.  Two years removed from an historic low point in program history, we were one TD short in a BCS game.
Yes it sucks, and for some reason this loss is bothering me more than it should, but it's still two successful seasons.  When you look at what this staff's recruits are doing, I don't know how you can't be excited for the future.  And we're still down three more potential studs each year.
Alabama is in the middle of one of the most successful runs in college football history.  They also ended with two losses.  We're not above it.

Bamabucknut's picture

The reason to be upset ..is not that we don't have good players..it's that we have the same weakness for an extended period of time...and its not getting better.It's just being exposed  on a bigger and bigger stage .
The hallmark of OHIO STATE teams has been their defense.Not any more.

BucksFan2000's picture

Sure, we have good defensive players, but great?  I'm not sold.  There are some, but not many.  If you make a list of "great", how many actually played Friday?
I do expect progress next year though.  Lots of great DL with experience now, plenty of LB's that at least have a year in the program, and a number of DB's to choose from.
Firing anyone now is a knee-jerk reaction.  We're not the Browns.

Blackbeards Delight's picture

Well statistically they're two of the worst defensive years of Ohio State Football ever. I'm not sure the defensive coaches deserve raises.

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O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

The defensive talent coming in, including a new co-coordinator, will see the silver bullets shine again. There's only one place to go and that's up.
My biggest concern is Braxton. Can the most electric player on the field override his own desire to keep the ball in his hands and really become the quarterback this team needs to win it all? We saw glimpses of it at the beginning of this past season. In these final 3 or 4 games, I saw the old Brax re-emerge where it seemed like he was keeping the ball to get scores and yards for himself. This kid has first round NFL talent, but scouts don't need to see your stutter step anymore. Show them you can make reads, get the ball out of your hand quickly, stop taking senseless sacks, and get the most from the incredible talent around you.

HotSauceCommittee's picture

Taking sacks killed us the last three games and is rarely mentioned. In addition to the sacks, the times where he scrambles, then runs, only to get tackled a yard or so shy of the line of scrimmage. These add up. I love watching Brax play. I get that he feels he can make a guy miss, but throwing the ball away to avoid 3 and 9, 2 and 16, etc. is the smart play.

blendking's picture

Brown cathces that punt, we win

Chip Smith

Orlando Buckeye's picture

That is speculation.

Firmthyfriendship's picture

Time for Urban to hire Chris Spielman as DC. The amount of games his eyes have been on, and the way he knows the teams he calls is amazing. He does his homework on each and every player, knows the plays that are called, and the players he is watching, and is one of my favorite analysts out there- of course I am biased, but he is ever a student of the game- always watching, learning, and telling us why/how a coverage was blown- why a certain schem worked or not, not just saying it was blown play or misread. Maybe it is an extreme risk, but something tells me he is an untapped resource.

Hovenaut's picture

24-2 the past two, and we're still left wanting more.
Pretty cool being a Buckeye fan, and I like the new folks coming into the program.

fanfarris's picture

Yes that's cool.But we have nothing to show for it.No Big championships .No Bowl wins.If you are OK w that ,i am not.


buckeyestu's picture

Been a decent two years. The problems on defense will be fixed when a set of linebackers are developed. Could Mitchell, Kwon and Dante be the next great set of linebackers? If so, then the Silver Bullets will be back. Imo.

bucks15's picture

Consider me cautiously optimistic about the immediate future.  As far as the offense goes, they have lived up and even surpassed expectations.  Our offense staff, especially Warinner and Herman, have done a tremendous job in developing and using our talent effectively, especially considering most of the players weren't recruited under Urban's regime.  If Braxton comes back I think our offense has even more room to grow than this past year, I fully expect Warinner to develop 3 O-linemen to play along side Decker and Efflien.  Braxton will only get better at distributing the football (he has improved substantially in every offseason thus far), Hyde was great but we have tremendous depth behind him, we are returning all of our TE's (the best group Urban claims he's ever had), and only losing Philly Brown at WR.  If Braxton can improve his touch and intermediate passing and Warinner develops 3 o-linemen to an above average level, I doubt our offense will lose us any games next year no matter who we play.
And now for the defense.  From a personnel standpoint I see the natural talent only being better.  Our defensive line is losing no one from an already young and talented group, this unit has the chance to be something special with another offseason to get better.  Linebackers is our biggest worry after losing Shazier.  I see a lot of Nickel being played next year with Perry and Grant/Kwon out there.  The young depth is great for future, but it is hard for a true freshman to come in an play such a complicated position effectively, you don't see it happen very often.  Hopefully Mitchell or Johnson is up for the task being the 3rd linebacker.  As for the DB's, replacing Roby won't be easy but between Reeves, Burrows, Apple, Conley, Webb, and Lattimore, you have to think one of them steps up to be a great corner for us next year.  As for the Safety position I see Bell and Powell being a significantly better starting tandem than Brown and Barnett.
Next year, a lot like this year, comes down to the coaching of the defensive staff.  I personally think Withers will be an addition by subtraction, a lot of North Carolina fans were happy to see him go and its not hard to understand why.  The Safety group, whom was Wither's responsibility, was never great with Barnett and Bryant, and was nothing short of bad when Brown replaced Bryant.  When Wither's was here our defense was never good, hardly even average.  Not all his fault, but it's not a coincidence our defense was never good when he had a big role in it.  Fickell is somewhat in the same boat, our linebackers were not up to Ohio State standards these past two years which I don't understand why considering Fickell has coached some great ones in the past.  His play calling has left a lot to be desired too, how many times can you run a soft zone and think it will work?  Clemson themselves said they had so much success because they saw a lot of it.  I fully trust in UFM handling the Fickell situation, if he views Fickell as a liability he will be gone.  Urban said he needs a homerun hire to replace Withers, and homerun hire just might result in a homerun type of season.                

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

Hey ... at least we're not TTUN.

Yeti's have feelings too.

Barnsey69's picture

I think many of us knew deep down that what happened Friday night was the most likely outcome for our defense versus that passing attack. All the stockpiled talent will start to manifest itself in the form of a well-rounded, championship caliber football team. And who is there, from a coaching stand-point to mold that talent, will be up to UFB who is imminently more qualified than anyone here to make that decision.
Very excited for the future of this program.
Go Bucks!

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buckeyestu's picture

As for the loss to clemson, the 4 turnovers played a huge role in that loss. I like Braxton a lot, he is one of my favorite players, but he is not ready for the NFL as for playing quarterback.  The muffed punt was a game changer IMO, i can not lay all the blame on the defense. How many games are won when a team has 4 turnovers? IMO the problem with the defense starts with the linebackers. I wont disagree with anyone that the defense has for the most part sucked the past couple of years.

wyatt's picture

The whole conference was weak but OSU had the 105th rated strength of schedule, 34th total defense, 118th passing yards per game. http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/opponent-passing-yards....    The problem is defense and who is making the decisions on defense. 

teddyballgame's picture

If you told me the defense would get 2 picks and a safety on Clemson I would have thought for sure we'd win. 

Jbucks's picture

Not worried bout next years Offense at all! XBrax5 comin back, Devin Smith, Evan Spencer, Jeff Heurman all returning add in Corey Smith, Jalin Marshall, Michael Thomas, Curtis Damuel & Jonny Dixon & we have the talented depth at WR that will make us tons better. Yes we need to replace 4 offensive lineman.. Not a problem with the guys we have & the guys coming in, in this class + Warrnier. On Defense im curious to see who stays, & who goes I personally think Fick stays & Coombs goes. Unless Urbz doesnt think adding 2 new DB coaches on top of Ficks broken scheme.

any one know/heard of any coaches to be rumored for our vacancies/GA coaching spots?

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okiebuck's picture

If, I'm Urban; going into the offseason and spring ball the defensive depth chart would only have three names on it; Joey Bosa, Vonn Bell and Jamal Marcus. The rest of spots would be open for competition and not filled in until after they break camp in the fall.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

OSUFlash's picture

It's too bad we hadn't seen the WR bubble screen until the Orange Bowl. I bet we would've won had we known it was coming.