A Michigan Loss Tonight Would Cost the Wolverines the No. 1 Overall Winning Percentage in College Football

By Jason Priestas on December 28, 2013 at 7:00p
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Consider this while you're watching Michigan take on Kansas State in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl tonight: Thanks to Notre Dame's 29-16 win in the Pinstripe Bowl over a hapless Rutgers team, a Wolverine loss means the Irish will overtake Michigan as the winningest team in college football history, based on winning percentage.

The 700 Club
School Win %
Michigan 0.73302
Notre Dame 0.73301
Oklahoma 0.71932
Ohio State 0.71821
Texas 0.71549
Alabama 0.71446
Nebraska 0.70103
USC 0.70102

Per Stassen, Michigan enters tonight's game with 910 wins, 320 losses and 36 ties – good enough for a .73302 winning percentage. Notre Dame, meanwhile, has 874 wins, 305 losses and 42 ties, equating to a .73301 winning percentage. It's that close, folks.

Should Kansas State – currently favored by six points – top Michigan, the Wolverines will fall to .73244, or .00057 points behind the Irish. The Wolverines have enjoyed their status as the team with college football's top winning percentage for at least my lifetime, if not much, much longer. It's fair to mention that Michigan still holds a sizeable lead in the all-time wins column with a 35-victory edge over No. 2 Texas.

Just five years ago, before Rich Rodriguez and Brady Hoke arrived in Ann Arbor, Michigan's lead over Notre Dame appeared safe, .74475 to .73864. Since then, the Wolverines have gone 34-29, the program's worst five-year stretch since the early 1960s.

So, about all of that cheering for Michigan to help the Big Ten's image stuff? Maybe we put that on hold for a game.

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OSUStu's picture

And...this game finally became interesting for me.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

gerry30's picture

I always read Detroit Free Press (freep.com) after scUM losses. Mark Snyder is cool. Detroit Daily News too, with a reporter or two that really clobber the weasels. Some columnists sugar coat, but some are really caustic. 
My K-State game vote? I always go BIG, except, of course....  Watched every last second tonight.
 

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Geraffi's picture

Although the replacement is undesirable. 

skid21's picture

Agreed but even ND is more desirable than TTUN whose chest thumping was tied to wins before sliced bread.

Whosisbrew's picture

Let's be honest, guys. No one - not even bowl blowhards on ESPN - really gives a crap about this game anyway. If Ohio State beats Clemson, is anyone really going to say "But wait! Michigan lost to Kansas State!" and use it as a valid argument against Ohio State being a good team or something? Because, if so, that person can most assuredly screw off.

hansman's picture

They will use it as an argument if Ohio State is the ONLY BIG team to win. 0-2 so far with one of the top teams still to play and without the leader of their defense. After watching Minnesota and *ichigan, I honestly don't who else has a chance.

kmp10's picture

That seals it. Wasn't rooting for them before this information... but now it's a stone cold lead pipe lock that I'm not. FUTTUN.

Calgarybuck's picture

I hate *ichigan more than the next person, but i'm getting hammered tonight, i'll look at my phone before I go to bed a laugh when they lose! 

armybuckinva's picture

As if I needed any more reasons to root for K-State.

FLAMikey's picture

Let's forget about perception and focus on reality. If (as it appears) PSU has to hire a coach in their current diminished circumstances, The B1G could enter 2014 with the least coaching talent in the modern era of the conference. Other then Meyer and Dantonio (and maybe Fitz if he was coming off a better season), is there anyone else that any credible D1 program would want? And we all know that the preponderance of weak coaches is devastating the level of talent in the conference. If Hoke flames out and Michigan can't get an A-lister, the conference would become the BIG 1+ MSU and a gaggle of teams that are the football equivalent of K-Mart. I don't think you can even say Big 2 as MSU has yet to show that they have the national draw to be a contender on a regular basis.
I suppose that despite just getting rolled by Marshall, Randy Edsell might become the 3rd most highly regarded coach in the conference (think about that for a minute).
 
 

johnblairgobucks's picture

Champaign, Ill. , Bloomington and West Lafayette are not destination jobs, if you aren't paying out the right amount of cash.  I would add Iowa City to the list, but they are spending $$$, just spending it on Ferentz. 
IMO, it will take some great coaching talent to convince top flight talent to come play football in the corn/soybean fields of the Midwest.

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

Somehow, they lure kids to Tuscaloosa.

WB

johnblairgobucks's picture

yep, it is called having a top flight coaching staff.

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

No doubt! I should have engaged sarcasm font. But I was really just responding to the comment about the location not being a destination ( yet somehow they are successful).

WB

thatlillefty's picture

Dude I was with you til you mentioned Edsall. I live in dc and can't wait for OSU to come out to college college park.. But MD is garbage and I would be heated if that lame was our coach.

Jason - Drop more knowledge.

Crimson's picture

Wisconsin looks to have a pretty decent coach now, although he hasn't been around long.

cinserious's picture

The B1G must have great coaching talent. I mean the mighty SEC 'stole' one of our best coaches (Ar-kansas).   Hahahahahhaha!   

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

zenshade's picture

Quite honestly, it's pretty amazing that scUM has held onto that distinction for this long. It's also pretty amazing that ND has been in 2nd place so close to them.
What it really tells you is how dominant those programs were in the earliest days of college football.  Take any starting point after about 1920 or so and I'm pretty sure Ohio State is ahead of both schools in just about all categories.  Even more so from 1950 on.

WOLFofOHIO's picture

dammit..now i want them to lose..thats why michigan is michigan. they will probably stll be indenial that they suck if they lose tonight..

 
 

there is no greater joy than watching Michigan get slammed. in anything

dlb72osu's picture

Ttun has clubbed everyone with this "winningest" crap since the Harding administration. Their own misplaced arrogance (and clownish winged helmets) have brought about the universal hatred of their sports programs. Let them choke on a big ol' shit sandwich tonight!

I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.
- Invictus

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

LOVE IT!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

buckskin's picture

Shooter Mcgavin eats pieces of shit for breakfast, TTUN eats shit for supper.  Love it.
 

Idaho Helga's picture

Two thoughts:
W00T!  I had approached this game with a big "Meh, I guess I should root for B1G but can't seem to get that past my moral barometer."  Now it's all in for KSU.
If they lose, how will the rocket scientists at TTUN manipulate the stats to deny this truth?  I mean,  they are handy at using wins from games played as far back as the Crimean War.
 

4thandinches's picture

You mean against High School and club teams?

I wasn't born a Buckeye but I became one as fast as I could. 

Idaho Helga's picture

...and your great-great-great-daughters soccer club and knitting societies.  OK.  Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit.  Like they do when they count wins.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

I hate ND about as much as TTUN - both fan bases vie for the most obnoxious so trading places will not give anybody much peace!  That said - GO KSU!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

teddyballgame's picture

If Morris plays really well tonight, then what?  Gardner was so inconsistent this season I'm not even sure where he stands anymore.  Think they're secretly happy they get to give him a look?

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Some of his inconsistent play had to do with the O-Line being awful.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

Some of his inconsistent play was their best offense.

WB

bukyze's picture

So, about all of that cheering for Michigan to help the Big Ten's image stuff? Maybe we put that on hold for a game.

Maybe we put that on hold for forever.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

There were people cheering for M*chigan?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

InvertMyVeer's picture

A lot of them if you look at that poll, I'm amazed it's that close on here. Glad to see you came around Jason! Screw the skunk weasels!

Football is complicated...

Jason Priestas's picture

Ha. I still think it's necessary given the way college football is run, but for one night, I'll set the game theory aside slop of the schadenfreude. 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

A lot of them if you look at that poll,

I forgot to vote. lol

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

cinserious's picture


I admit I fell for this foolish ploy earlier in the year but from here on out, under any scenario, will any commentator, conference, or situation let me fall for it ever again!  If the entire Big-10 must go down in flames with 'em, LET IT BURN!

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

The Braden's picture

Ha!  hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....

The Rill Dill's picture

A loss tonight will also cripple any chance of Morris winning the September Heisman.

BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

Don't worry... He'll still be the preseason favorite.

Doc's picture

Guys I'm still up north please tell me what channel it's on. Thanks a ton

"Say my name."

Doc's picture

Never mind I found out it is on espn after Louisville finishes donkey punching cryami. Go K-State. I have to watch it on a 19 inch sony from 1997. Another reason to hate tsun. 

"Say my name."

CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

The game is on ESPN tonight.  Kickoff is right around 10:15 PM.
Go Bucks!!

Idaho Helga's picture

ESPN something, but I am listening to it on the radio on ESPN which I believe is national.
 

CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

Go Cats!  This just makes me want to see them lose even more!!
Go Bucks!!

rosycheeks's picture

15 plays, 75 yards...hey, I recognize that defense!

Go1Bucks's picture

Well, that just breaks my heart, so much so, I may tear up for a millisecond.

Go Bucks!

ATXbucknut's picture

If Lewan starts assaulting some people TSUN could turn this thing around yet.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

TTUN is getting their asses kicked and the butthurt is a plenty on Mgoblog...

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Watching this game reminds me of playing some 10 year old in Madden. Reverse, screen, screen, reverse, option, throw it deep. (repeat)

oregonianbuckeye's picture

michigan has 10 rushing yards on 9 carries.

blueblazer22's picture

Just felt like adding, since I do not see it anywhere in the thread at the moment, that it is 10:47 (central) and *ichigan still sucks. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

scUm fan argument after tonight:

”we had the best overall winning percentage for the longest amount of time”

Blackbeards Delight's picture

It's a special holiday season when TSUN finds another loss in the bottom of the stocking. What bothers me is how the hell this team put up 178 rushing yards on The Buckeyes? Every other team they play shuts them down? 

Crunchy Peanut Butter Bitches.

- Me

 

SPreston2001's picture

Goes to show how bad the disconnect is on our D. Whether is coaching, scheme, or talent something isnt right with the Buckeye defense... 

thekornidentity's picture

You can tell this game isn't going well for TTUN.
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CowCat's picture

With all due hate, Gardner is out.

I almost feel sorry for them.

NOT. GO BUCKS!!

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

BamaBuckeye144's picture

Without Gardner, these chumps are lost. I'll give him props for what he did on a broken foot against us. Just shows how crappy Borges and Hoke the joke are. 

OH-IO!

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

How many of their current commits are watching this shipwreck of a team and reconsidering their choice?

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

bigbadbuck's picture

What?.....You mean no one wants to play for a team that ended up 7-6 and claims to be back?...............................
LMAO
 

WOLFofOHIO's picture

they are done...poor michigan..

 

there is no greater joy than watching Michigan get slammed. in anything

BamaBuckeye144's picture

12:19 AM CST and Michigan still sucks. 

OH-IO!

ScarletNGrey01's picture

What a shipwreck of a program.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

cinserious's picture

Just using my 'off the top of my head' math, if -ichigan averages 9 wins per and OSU averages 12 wins per season, the Buckeyes can conceivably surpass them by 2020 in winning percentage. (a feat quite accomplishable during the Urban Meyer vs Brady Hoke 'Ten Years War'.

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

Crumb's picture

The fact that the team and band were high-fiving and celebrating a late garbage touchdown tells me that team up north is almost right where I want em!!! Go Bucks!!!

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

fanfarris's picture

Hail to the victors.K-STATE. I hope some of the smart Recruits would see that Team is going nowhere for the next few years.

you
 

Buckabroad's picture

Thanks for a cool article, JASON. Man, recruits should really reconsider their TTUN decisions. The glory of the 1800's and free doughnuts were the only recruiting tools they had left. When even ancient glory wanes, there is not really much to like about that sad, dejected school up north.

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

BeijingBucks's picture

OT: Had an odd moment when I read bill o Brian to Texaa!  Was about to get pissed about the dilution of the B1G before i realized it was the Pros not as Mack browns replacement.
considering he promised Holley he is staying, I wonder if Holley considers leaving when bob jumps ship?
 

 

 

None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. ~ John Milton

Crimson's picture

We were no longer considering Holley.  BOB doesn't matter.

buckskin's picture

Most wins usually means they've been playing longer, or were better when they were 7 teams in the whole NCAA.  In the words of happy gilmore, gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a shit.

Seattle Linga's picture

Jason - I know this is late but maybe you can answer. With this record going down after their loss - are they counting their wins with the victory over the AA High School back in the 1800's or have they removed that from their win total?

bigbadbuck's picture

With Missagain traditions being what they are Linga they won't ever give back a victory especially with those being so much harder to come by these days.

Seattle Linga's picture

I am sure that's true but it skews their record even though they don't care.
I wonder how we would fair against high schools?

bigbadbuck's picture

These days probably not so well.