What Happens When You Die

By Ramzy Nasrallah on November 20, 2013 at 11:15a
149 Comments

Historic winning streaks that span multiple years used to be soured only by the fear of losing.

That inevitability of creeping death - usually via Ann Arbor, a California school on New Year’s Day, or more recently something toxic and alien from West Lafayette - was all that spoiled the enjoyment of lengthy unblemished Saturday sequences.

You kept bracing for the end of it all, and only that worry was capable of diminishing the fun you should have been having.

Those culprits are all still there, but fear isn't wrecking your pride anymore. It's those damn media people with their obvious biases and their unending attack on everything you love.

It’s plastic narrative merchants dedicating their deadlines to making sure everyone understands just how inconsequential Ohio State's 22-game run is. They're overtly and unabashedly biased without any nuance or objectivity, resulting in Buckeye fans dedicating significantly more energy to hating the media than to enjoying this streak.

And you know what? It's exhausting.

Media disrespect didn't always feel like this. Contempt by pollsters never stung so badly. The line of schools poised to jump Ohio State in the rankings - BCS rankings, poll rankings, some computer guy's rankings, all of the rankings - forms directly beneath your favorite team.

You feel helpless. You're angry. These aren't the typical emotions for fans of any team that has won 22 goddamn games in a row.

        OHIO STATE & 2013 AP POLL:
    THE CONSEQUENCES OF WINNING
WeeK              Result AP Rank +/-
1 N/A (preseason poll) 2 -
2 Beat Buffalo by 20 3 (1)
3 Beat San Diego St by 35 4 (1)
4 Won at Cal by 18 4 -
5 Beat Florida A&M by 76 4 -
6 Beat #23 Wisconsin by 7 4 -
7 Won at #16 N'Western by 10 4 -
8 Bye 4 -
9 Beat Iowa by 10 4 -
10 Beat Penn State by 49 4 -
11 Beat Purdue by 56 4 -
12 Bye 3 +1
13 Beat Illinois by 25 4 (1)

It's not that you're upset with imaginary contempt, either: The voters responsible for the AP Poll have not rewarded Ohio State even once for any of its ten victories this season. The Buckeyes have either maintained their spot or taken a demotion - for every win.

The only instance where the Buckeyes were rewarded by the AP came ahead of last week, when they climbed one spot…while on a bye. Then came the 60-point outburst struggle against Illinois in the cursed Champaign wind tunnel, which promptly knocked them back down a spot again

Yeah, the AP doesn't figure into the BCS formula, but it seems that none of college football's judges are taking Ohio State's side this season.

The latest recipient of your angst is Baylor, the newest media darling and benefactor of the season-long who-will-jump-Ohio-State-next media campaign. Despite its conspicuous offensive fireworks, you're struggling with Baylor because your football memory extends beyond the past 20 minutes. It’s your curse.

Baylor has played just two road games this season, both in Kansas, with one a ten-point come-from-behind 4th quarter escape (like, a real escape - not a 25-point win over Illinois escape) at Kansas State, which left the Wildcats with a 2-4 record. 

It's also a program which has played in three bowl games over the past two decades, finished the season ranked in the top 25 one time since 1986 and who gave Indiana its most recent bowl victory.

ESPN is now manufacturing more intrigue about Baylor's rise, citing Ohio State's weak strength of schedule (72nd) while failing to provide the same metric for Baylor's (it's 85th, but why waste the keystrokes).

This is Baylor football. It gets the benefit of the doubt over Ohio State in 2013.

Hey, random guy on Twitter named Rob Hayes - is this unreal or what?

Rob Hayes says it's unreal.

Your Buckeyes are already guaranteed to end the BCS era with more BCS bowl appearances and BCS bowl victories than any other program. They are commandeered by that Urban Meyer guy who has won everything, everywhere. He has an .847 winning percentage despite only taking over messy situations in his coaching career without exception.

Yet despite those favorable variables and history, apparently it's just safer to discount the weakness of the Buckeyes' opponents than to assume that maybe Ohio State is worthy of consideration over the likes of Baylor. Or even Florida State, which will likely play Duke in the ACC title game.

Duke. The ACC is 3-13 in BCS history, with those three triumphs coming against Northern Illinois, Cincinnati and current member Virginia Tech. The Big Ten is 12-14 and Ohio State is 6-3. Florida State is assumed to be superior this season for rampaging through a conference that is mathematically no better than Ohio State's.

You understand facts and history, which is why you detest the narrative. You tolerated almost half of the OSU-Illinois game broadcast listening to nepotism hire Brian Griese transparently manufacture intrigue about the Buckeyes' ranking based on a few possessions with the game out of hand.

Ohio State, down two starting linebackers, a starting safety and a starting defensive lineman allowed 29 points to a team averaging 30 per game. It scored 60 despite playing inconsistently. Once Tom Herman recognized how effectively the wind was turning Braxton Miller’s lasers into kites, he defaulted to telegraphed El Guapo runs the Illini could not stop.

Kenny Guiton only brings you joy. Look what you're doing to him.

This performance was the most recent cause for a demotion. Add the Illinois game to the growing list of reasons to doubt the Buckeyes.

It’s all an orchestrated function of marketing college football’s title chase, combined with - deny it all you want - the lingering, catastrophic damage inflicted on Ohio State’s national perception almost seven years ago by Meyer at Florida.

It’s exhausting. But it doesn’t have to be.

Someday in a distant future long after flag football replaces tackle football - in a world with flying cars and lab-grown ribeyes - you will be faced with preparing for your death. If you’re like everyone who passed through the threshold before you...you’ll have a few regrets.

You’ll wish you handled several things in your life differently. You'll wonder what your career might have been had you pursued something different. You'll wish you talked to that girl.

The death bed for this 2013 seasons arrives in a little under two months. Four Ohio State football games are all that remain; just one in Ohio Stadium. Then it all expires, and all you'll remember are the highlights you're currently glossing over with angst.

In mid-January you won’t remember staying up too late last Saturday night hoping Texas Tech wouldn’t fade against Baylor, or how over-hyped Miami was when the Seminoles made yet another statement in the annually mediocre yet lightly-ridiculed ESPN TV property ACC.

You'll barely recall breaking your remote when Mississippi State settled for chip-shot field goals against Alabama - that they missed - helping the Crimson Tide to a workmanlike 20-7 win against an SEC West foe that Northwestern blew the doors off of earlier this year.

Instead of worrying about holes in Baylor’s resumé, try wrapPING your head around Carlos Hyde averaging eight yards per carry.

Instead of worrying about the holes in Baylor’s resumé, try to wrap your head around Carlos Hyde averaging eight yards per carry. His final home game is Saturday, and if he wants to rush for 200 yards on 20 carries against the Hoosiers, he will.

Miller, Ryan Shazier and Bradley Roby may opt for professional football next season. Jack Mewhort and Philly Brown don't have the option of returning. It's Senior Day, and if you're too wound up about media disrespect and BCS rankings, you might miss it.

For as long as you can remember being an Ohio State fan - and being in love with being an Ohio State fan - it's been about the Buckeyes. This is one of the most talented, entertaining and likable teams you will ever have the pleasure of enjoying.

Don't wait until the season expires to appreciate that. Historic winning streaks that span multiple years used to be soured only by the fear of losing. This streak is different. The media and the final season of the BCS are both diligently and preemptively souring it for you.

And it's exhausting. But it doesn't have to be.

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DefendOhio's picture

I can't wait to see what the narrative is come January, once they see our "Speed" on the field. 

TennesseeBuckeye's picture

BTN isn't much better with friends like them who needs enemies

and then this:

22 wins in a row doesn't mean anything unless you're AL and they lost a game last year). Al started #1 haven't lost, didn't drop. OSU started #2 haven't lost but dropped. AL has had close game with basement dweller, "taking care of business". Closet we came was NW, and they were undefeated at time. We lost to a FL team last Bowel, But the two previous Bowls beat the #2 SEC team and #1 PAC 12 teams. Bend over folks as bad as ESPN, BTN is only making it wider and deeper. Eu Tu Brute?
 
Last time B1G Ten went B2B undefeated 1947-48 scUM.
 

I may not be able to outsmart too many people, but I can outwork 'em.
Woody Hayes

btalbert25's picture

Do we really want another media outlet of clowns who just spew the company line though?  It is very possible, that Bama and FSU are better teams.  If Pizzo and company on BTN just rah rah'd for the B1G all the time they would be no better than what we accuse ESPN of all the time.  Plus, the BTN doesn't have any kind of reach beyond the B1G anyway.  It's unfortunate that we are sitting 10-0 and on the outside looking in, but maybe this season it's possible that we are 3rd best. 
Bama has won 3 of the last 4 titles . If they don't lose a game they are going to make it to the BCS title game and honestly, they probably deserve it.  Plus, at the end of the day they will have beat A&M, LSU, Auburn, and Mizzou to get there.  While perhaps all those teams are not elite, that is a much better collection of teams than what Ohio State, FSU, or Baylor will face all year. 
Quite honestly, FSU has looked like the best team this year.  Maybe the Miami win wasn't as strong as it looked at the time, but Miami is still a decent win.  Clemson, though, is a really good win and FSU destroyed them.  FSU has only given up more than 17 points one time all year.  Sure it was against a horrible team, but Illinois, Cal, and Northwestern are hardly elite.  

The Buck Guy's picture

I don't think that the BTN should "rah rah" for the Buckeyes. Instead, I think that they should give visibility to the misinformation campaign that is being waged in favor of the SEC, ACC, Nike, etc, while denigrating their market competition (B1G); even going so far as to claim the laughable assertion that Baylor is better than this 22-0 Buckeyes program.  It is incredibly easy to show the financial interests for eSECpn, CBS, Sports Illustrated, NBC and Fox to artificially inflate the value of their brands (SEC, ACC, etc.) while actively campaigning against their only media market competition, BTN.  It is incredible to me that the BTN lack the savvy or intelligence to expose how these networks are corrupting public perception, and thus manufacturing favorable poll voting for profit.
As for me, I refuse to contribute to the misinformation campaign. I do not watch anything on ESPN or the other sports networks. I cancelled my SI subscription three years ago during their witch hunt against Coach Tressel. And I encourage all of you in Buckeye Nation as well as all B1G fans to do the same. The fan base of the B1G forms a huge percentage of the college sports market. If the BTN were smart, they would mount a counter-offensive against the aggressors, make their case clearly and often on their own programming and in the print media as well; and finally, encourage B1G fans to refuse to support those biased networks who are manipulating the system for profit at our expense.
OK, off the soap box now. Go Bucks!  Just win baby!

~ The Buck Guy
Go Bucks!!!!

Diary of John Frank's picture

When, seven games into the 2015 season, Ohio State breaks Oklahoma's record for the all-time longest winning streak at 48 games, ESPN will finally break down and concede...   that the record must bear an asterisk for ducking the National Championship Game in 2012 and 2013.

Optimism is cowardice

camodog's picture

Love this article. I am sad the season is coming to an end. I will cherish the final 4 games no matter the outcome. Go BUCKS
 
O-H

onetwentyeight's picture

Kudos to you, Ramzy, for straight up sayin what all of us know but don't like to bring up: that all of this, the heart of it, all goes back to that night in Glendale in 2007. Nothing's ever been the same since. 
 
You guys may hate it but that will always be the enduring legacy of the second half of Tressel's tenure; 41-14 and it's lingering effects, even today. We jus have to live with it and hope the man who inflicted it can also be the one to redeem us. 
 

bnation's picture

Its funny how its better for your image to go to a BCS bowl and lose to Boise State than it is to lose in the NCG.
 
 

NW Buckeye's picture

Thank you, Ramzy.  How you are not a nationally syndicated columnist is beyond me.  Your posts are always a pleasure to read.   

gobucks5413's picture

Because he likes to write about Ohio States. Everyone knows Ohio State columnists/bloggers/etc type slow

I_Run_The_Dave's picture

Are you saying that Ramzy's articles lack speed and quickness?!?!

Alhan's picture

Plodding would be the correct description I think.

"Nom nom nom" - Brady Hoke

CCatanzaro's picture

Spectacularly written, Ramzy.  Thank you for that.

Dairy-fed intellect and pure, unhinged sass.

 

camodog's picture

Ps- Baylor non-conference games this year:
 
Wofford
Buffalo
UL Monroe
 
They score a ton of points, however they haven't faced one decent defense all year.
 

BME_Buckeye's picture

Easy there. Our ooc is nothing to highlight either with Buffalo, SDSU, Cal and little sisters of the poor FAMU. We playnthe Bulls too.

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

fear_the_nut70's picture

I think his point is that there is really no difference between their OOC and ours.

ChicagoBuckMD's picture

Also, when Cal was originally scheduled they were a fairly tough team (beating USC and all that). Baylor has no one on their schedule that could be confused for a tough team.

"Why be around average?" - UFM

btalbert25's picture

It really makes no difference what kind of team Cal was when the Buckeyes scheduled the game.  They are currently one of the worst teams in a BCS conference this season, and that's what matters. 

buckeyemanda's picture

Thanks for some positive perspective & reminders of our awesome players, team, & program. (But still screw the BCS). Go Bucks!

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Let's say Ramzy and everyone else complaining about bias is right. There's nearly criminal bias against Ohio State ... somewhere. Not sure exactly where this bias resides, since "in the media" is kinda like "among the people". Are all 65 AP voters biased against OSU, or just some? But anyway, let's say OSU is totally getting screwed.
In a just world then, what exactly would be different? Where would OSU be ranked? Because this is the only thing that matters - Jesse Palmer hurting feelings by talking about Stanford "not playing Stanford football" in their loss to Utah is pretty irrelevant. Palmer doesn't even vote in the AP poll.
So, what specifically is unfair?

Matt M.'s picture

Pretty sure it's unfair that a powerhouse program on a 22 game winning streak has had to deal with talks of a team like Baylor or a 1 loss (to a dreadful Utah) Stanford jumping them in the polls. It's not just unfair, it's absolutely absurd. 
Having said that... Bravo, Ramzy. Brilliant post. I'll be there in the Shoe this Saturday and damn what any talking heads will have to say after we crush the opposition and send the seniors off with a bang!

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Pretty sure it's unfair that a powerhouse program on a 22 game winning streak has had to deal with talks of a team like Baylor or a 1 loss (to a dreadful Utah) Stanford jumping them in the polls. It's not just unfair, it's absolutely absurd.

But this is exactly my point. In what sense has Ohio State had to "deal with talks" of Stanford? Stanford has been ranked below OSU the whole season. Baylor is an undefeated team, just like OSU. You could argue that their combination of schedule and performance against that schedule hasn't been more impressive than the same for OSU, but I hardly think it's terribly unfair to think Baylor edges out OSU. I might disagree, but I don't think it's somehow terribly biased to think so. Are you saying in a just world OSU would be ranked ahead of Baylor in every poll? OSU is already ranked ahead of Baylor in every human poll that counts in the BCS.

gobucks5413's picture

The unfair is the conversation that we don't belong. They can talk about resuimes all they want, but the fact is there is so much narrative that WE DONT BELONG! This is the crazy part....Past, present, and future, we've belonged. We've shown it before, we will continue to show it. ONE game against Florida, we didn't look like we belonged, ONE! That was 7 years ago. Why don't other teams get held to that standard for games 7 years ago? Why doesn't Oregon get looked down on bc of their constant bowl failures? Why aren't those things talked about?
If they can objectively look at Baylor and say without a doubt that they are better than Ohio State, and undoubtedly have a better resume than Ohio State, then fine. But to constantly doubt everything bc of one time getting housed in a NCG, is just ridiculous. USC never has to face that, Oklahoma doesn't get nearly the amount of talk as we do as blowing big games...(I purposely left the LSU game off here, because while they were certainly the better team, to say we got "embarrassed" is a stretch...we lost to a superior team on basically their own field, with Todd Boeckman at QB)
We have more BCS appearances and wins than everyone else, we have 22 wins in a row, we have multiple 4 and 5 star recruits at important positions. Why is this not part of the narrative?

RedsBuckeyeBoy's picture

My favorite part of all of this is the guy that called the shots on the sideline for Florida's monumental win 7 years ago who helped to change how the college football landscape is viewed today now patrols the sidelines at Ohio State...and has yet to lose a game at the helm.
I know we are all quite aware of this, but when you think about it for even a brief moment, it is completely maddening.

WildBear Buckeye's picture

The unfair is the conversation that we don't belong. They can talk about resuimes all they want, but the fact is there is so much narrative that WE DONT BELONG!

OSU is ranked #3 in the BCS. What speaks louder about belonging - the #3 rank or Jesse Palmer?

We have more BCS appearances and wins than everyone else, we have 22 wins in a row, we have multiple 4 and 5 star recruits at important positions. Why is this not part of the narrative?

Because "more BCS wins than everyone else" is not the same as "won 3 out of last four BCS titles". Only Bama is getting a boost from past performance, and their boost is due to the latter statement. Again, there's "the narrative", and there are the BCS rankings where OSU is #3.

osuxrow07's picture

It's less about Baylor and more about the overall narrative. I would bet that had Stanford beat USC this weekend, they would have jumped us in the BCS because of that narrative, as a one loss team to Utah. Do you think if we had one loss to Penn State or Iowa (which may be generous comparisons), we'd still be anywhere near the top 5? It's all because of this conference perception narrative that ESPN is driving, and it all boils down to money in the end. it's the same narrative that keeps one loss MSU with a top five defense out of the top ten, and the same thing with Wisconsin. It's hurting the entire conference.
Baylor is a really, scary good football team. I'm not convinced that we would beat them in a head to head match up. But we absolutely would be competitive. Baylor, IMO, deserves hype. But so does OSU. Instead the media driven narrative focuses on 'Who is next to jump OSU', instead of "These are two really good teams'. Doesn't matter who we're being compared to, but it's the same thing week in and week out.

Set the Earth Reverberating

WildBear Buckeye's picture

I would bet that had Stanford beat USC this weekend, they would have jumped us in the BCS because of that narrative, as a one loss team to Utah.

Every single analyst said this would not have happened. Jesse Palmer speculated that maybe it should happen, in a "maybe this should happen, but of course it can't and won't" way.

Do you think if we had one loss to Penn State or Iowa (which may be generous comparisons), we'd still be anywhere near the top 5? It's all because of this conference perception narrative that ESPN is driving, and it all boils down to money in the end. it's the same narrative that keeps one loss MSU with a top five defense out of the top ten, and the same thing with Wisconsin. It's hurting the entire conference.

Probably not. Now, THIS I do buy as some evidence of bias, though it would only have mattered in the unlikely event that one or more one-loss teams made it to the NCG, and OSU wasn't among them.

Matt M.'s picture

No, I'm saying we were ranked #2 to start the year and have done nothing but win games. Convincingly, might I add. So why the drop in rank and talk of being jumped? Not just by one analyst but by multiple publications, writers, etc.
There's no excuse for it. It's blind bias and it's embarrassing.

btalbert25's picture

Honestly, the reason we are sitting at 3 instead of 2 is, FSU has just played better.   At different times throughout the year, other teams have looked better than the Buckeyes.  I remember a post early in the year comparing some of the top unbeaten teams.  At the time Oregon and FSU, by the numbers were teams the Bucks didn't want any part of.  Clemson was iffy and Bama was probably the most favorable matchup.  Those were just hard numbers, advanced college football stats which indicated this.  Buckeyes have improved, other teams have lost, but those numbers weren't biased, they were just stats. 
I love this team, and I loved last year's team.  22 games in a row is incredible, HOWEVER Bama will have accomplished more than any of the unbeatens because their schedule is better, and they do get the nod for 3 out of 4 national titles.  FSU has just been a better team.  No one is winning more convincingly than them.  They have scored a ton of points on everyone and their defense is allowing next to nothing.  
There's really no doubt, right now, that Ohio State is number 3.  Baylor is 4 and it's probably closer than we want to admit.  Bottom line, even if Baylor does flip with Ohio State at some point, Ohio State will flip it back after the B1G title game.  Only thing we can control is winning the game in front of us.  We need one of the 2 teams in front to slip up, and that's probably the way it should be this season. 

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Its ESPN.

The bias exists with ESPN. ESPN drives the media market when it comes to college football, and their reporting influences not only other media sources, but voters who are not watching OSU play football week in and week out.

Again, I'm happy to agree there's anti-OSU/anti-B1G bias at ESPN. Certainly for the sake of this argument. How, exactly, has this hurt OSU in the polls, the only place it matters. Should OSU be ranked #1? #2? Is it incredibly biased to think Baylor edges out OSU? We might disagree, but is thinking so clear evidence of anti-OSU bias? I think a reasonable argument could be made either way.

Enzo's picture

Where do you think the majority of voters get their information? ESPN highlights, game day, post game shows, articles, the game announcers. They drive the narrative.

doodah_man's picture

Let me say for the 99th time. It's an anti-trust issue. They control the narrative, they control their media, they are hooked in with the SEC (because of the BTN competition). If you control the narrative, you control the polls, recruiting, hiring/firing of coaches, and ultimately the game. 

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

immort9888's picture

OSU should be ranked #2.  They started the season at #2 and did nothing but WIN and still drop in the polls.  Why did Clemson, FSU, and Oregon jump OSU?  They shouldn't have been jumped.  The only reason they dropped is because of the perceived weakness of the B1G and the rest of the country thinking OSU should never play in the champ game again due to the debacle in Glendale.  This comes directly from media bias.

RedStorm45's picture

They started the season at #2 and did nothing but WIN and still drop in the polls.  Why did Clemson, FSU, and Oregon jump OSU?  They shouldn't have been jumped.  The only reason they dropped is because of the perceived weakness of the B1G and the rest of the country thinking OSU should never play in the champ game again due to the debacle in Glendale.  This comes directly from media bias.

Not true, at all.  We all HATE pre-season polls, yet your reasoning is directly tied to pre-season rankings.  We all know preseason polls are garbage.  The pollsters that moved FSU ahead of us couldn't possibly think they're a better team, right?  Come on now.

WildBear Buckeye's picture

OSU should be ranked #2.  They started the season at #2 and did nothing but WIN and still drop in the polls.  Why did Clemson, FSU, and Oregon jump OSU?  They shouldn't have been jumped.  The only reason they dropped is because of the perceived weakness of the B1G and the rest of the country thinking OSU should never play in the champ game again due to the debacle in Glendale.  This comes directly from media bias.

No, they dropped behind Oregon because first game of the season, when poll positions are much less sticky than they are now, Oregon won 66-3 while OSU won 40-20, needing to pull away late. They dropped further behind Clemson week after that because Clemson's first two wins were against Georgia and SCAR, while the impression of OSU's 40-20 win hadn't worn off yet. Had OSU been dominant since then, FSU wouldn't have passed them when FSU beat Clemson.

Boxley's picture

Bad point on your part, start to think you are a troll, but will answer your comments regardless.
Oregon was all that and a can of corn, passed tOSU after playing absolutely nobody, but scored a lot of points (has everyone in the sports world not seen this before, and yet watched Oregon get dismantled in a bowl game against ---everyone).
Stanford was their big opponent, but lost to UTAH, after Stanford beat Ore-gone, the talk was all about how Stanford even with one loss was going to jump OSU, and their UTAH loss really was not important, but......then they lose to USC, convincingly, well that was just luck.
Gosh  now lets promote BAYLOR over OSU. PuhLeasseeeee. Baylor is just another Oregon in an even weaker conference. Baylor beats a weak in conference foe 63-34, after being behind for half of the game, and everyone is told how the crushed their opponent. OSU wins 60-35 at an away game and are talked about as having just barely survived another close scare. Bullshit.
FSU, in the ACC now is the 2nd best team in the country? Since when in any time in the last 10 years has the ACC been a conference in any conversation of informed sports folks, that that is better than the SEC, PAC12, or the BIG?,,,,,,,,,,,,, yes thats right NEVER.
It is a media bias hype game and tOSU is the flavor of the month to hose.
 

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Bad point on your part, start to think you are a troll, ...

Sure, whatever

... but will answer your comments regardless.

Why, how very generous of you!

Oregon was all that and a can of corn, passed tOSU after playing absolutely nobody, but scored a lot of points (has everyone in the sports world not seen this before, and yet watched Oregon get dismantled in a bowl game against ---everyone).

Here is Oregon's bowl record. Since 2007 they're 4-2 in bowls, with a 22-19 loss in the NCG and a 26-17 "blowout" at the hands of OSU. Dismantled in a bowl game against everyone, huh? And Oregon didn't just score a lot, they won each of their first 5 games by 39+ points, including 55-16 against Cal, giving up half the points OSU gave up to Cal. Maybe if OSU was Bama they wouldn't have been penalized for their first 5 games by dropping from #2 to #3, but it's pretty hard to say OSU was more impressive than Oregon during that stretch.

Stanford was their big opponent, but lost to UTAH, after Stanford beat Ore-gone, the talk was all about how Stanford even with one loss was going to jump OSU, and their UTAH loss really was not important, but......then they lose to USC, convincingly, well that was just luck.

That's a fun hobby horse, what with "the talk was all about" and stuff. Of course no one believed this would happen, but your feelings still got hurt I see.

Gosh  now lets promote BAYLOR over OSU. PuhLeasseeeee. Baylor is just another Oregon in an even weaker conference. Baylor beats a weak in conference foe 63-34, after being behind for half of the game, and everyone is told how the crushed their opponent. OSU wins 60-35 at an away game and are talked about as having just barely survived another close scare. Bullshit.

Texas Tech was 7-3 going into the Baylor game and had been ranked most of the season. Illinois, not so much. They were both blowouts, but the opponents were very far from similar. And while you may argue that Baylor shouldn't have moved ahead of OSU (in the AP only) in light of last week's games, good luck arguing that OSU has been more impressive than Baylor so far. Either order at #3 and #4 is fair.

osuxrow07's picture

Don't forget we started the season ranked #2. If we were in the SEC or PAC-12 this year, I doubt with our record we would have relinquished that spot, because of the media driven perception.
Again, this is less about Baylor and more about the system as a whole.

Set the Earth Reverberating

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Don't forget we started the season ranked #2. If we were in the SEC or PAC-12 this year, I doubt with our record we would have relinquished that spot, because of the media driven perception.

I don't buy that - not if OSU was in the Pac-12 and trailed at half to Wazzu and to Washington and beat UCLA 31-24. And not if OSU was in the SEC and trailed at half to Ole Miss and Tennesse and beat LSU 31-24.

Boxley's picture

VERY Good point, (OSUXrow07) if we were in the SEC and started out an No.2
The debate would be that we should be number one over Alabama, not who should/will  have jumped us.
That is the bias being driven by the media, fed to all viewers (of which all of the AP voters re viewers).
Excellent point on your part, if we were not in the"weak B1G" we would never have dropped in the polls.

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

Whoa Nellie's picture

If the Buckeyes were being treated fairly, and like everybody else, they would be ranked #2, right where they started this undefeated season.

“Don’t fear criticism. The stands are full of critics. They play no ball. They fight no fights. They make no mistakes because they attempt nothing. Down on the field are the doers, they make mistakes because they attempt many things.”

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Again, I'm happy to agree there's anti-OSU/anti-B1G bias at ESPN . . . How, exactly, has this hurt OSU in the polls, the only place it matters. Should OSU be ranked #1? #2?

A team's numerical poll ranking - 1, 2, 3, etc. - isn't the only way that media bias/narratives can hurt them. The BSC model combines total votes as percentages of total points available for the two polls, not the ranking numbers. Right now, Baylor (at 0.8926/0.8942) is barely behind Ohio State (0.9048/0.9058) in poll vote percentage as tabulated by the BCS, and modestly ahead of Ohio State in computer ranking percentage (0.870 to 0.850). It's quite likely that all the media blather has eaten away at what otherwise would be a larger vote margin between Ohio State and Baylor.
As things stand, all it would take for Baylor is to get a slight bump in computer rankings for them to overtake Ohio State, even if the Buckeyes maintain their #3 ranking in both polls.
Conversely, there is a very wide gap between FSU at #2 and Ohio State at #3, which suggests that almost every voter in the Harris and Coaching polls have Ohio State no better than 3rd - and that virtual "unnatural" unanimity is very likely a product - at least in part - of the bias/narratives. Without this high volume of negative bias against Ohio State, the Buckeyes figure to be within a little better striking range of FSU. So, if in the event that FSU limped across the finish line in November/December, while Ohio State blew away Michigan and a 11-1 MSU team, they might actually have a plausible means of catching them for the #2 BCS slot. As things stand, though, we know that the media has virtually pre-determined that's not a viable possibility (and/or cannot be allowed to happen).
So, yeah, all the bias has hurt Ohio State . . .

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Right now, Baylor (at 0.8926/0.8942) is barely behind Ohio State (0.9048/0.9058) in poll vote percentage as tabulated by the BCS, and modestly ahead of Ohio State in computer ranking percentage (0.870 to 0.850). It's quite likely that all the media blather has eaten away at what otherwise would be a larger vote margin between Ohio State and Baylor.

Wouldn't that be ... anti-Baylor bias? Or are you saying OSU's resume is THAT much more impressive than Baylor's?

Conversely, there is a very wide gap between FSU at #2 and Ohio State at #3, which suggests that almost every voter in the Harris and Coaching polls have Ohio State no better than 3rd - and that virtual "unnatural" unanimity is very likely a product - at least in part - of the bias/narratives. Without this high volume of negative bias against Ohio State, the Buckeyes figure to be within a little better striking range of FSU.

You don't think this is due to the fact that FSU was winning by 30+ and giving up 17 or fewer points (except BC) while OSU was playing the way it did against Wisconsin, NU, and Iowa? How "unbiased" would a voter have to be to put OSU ahead of FSU right now?

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Wildbear: I simply proved that your implied premise was incorrect - i.e. that, even assuming bias (1), and that Bama and FSU are appropriately ranked #1 and #2 ahead of Ohio State (2), that there is not yet any harm that we can infer because Ohio State is ranked #3.
Now, if you want to shift the argument to comparing the merits of Ohio State v. Baylor, or whether Ohio State is even close to FSU, I'm happy to entertain those discussions as well. But first, are you conceding that your previous argument ran aground?

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Wildbear: I simply proved that your implied premise was incorrect - i.e. that, even assuming bias (1), and that Bama and FSU are appropriately ranked #1 and #2 ahead of Ohio State (2), that there is not yet any harm that we can infer because Ohio State is ranked #3.
Now, if you want to shift the argument to comparing the merits of Ohio State v. Baylor, or whether Ohio State is even close to FSU, I'm happy to entertain those discussions as well. But first, are you conceding that your previous argument ran aground?

Unless I missed something, you argued that the unfair part is how far behind FSU Ohio State is, not that FSU is ranked ahead.
I believe the damage was done against Buffalo, to some extent against Cal, but primarily against Wisconsin/NU/Iowa. Polls get stickier as the season goes on. No amount of limping by FSU in the next few games would have caused OSU and FSU to swap (given FSU won), regardless of how close OSU was. OSU's problem through the Iowa game was that it never managed to appear dominant for more than a week, and only against SDSU and Florida A&M. Had OSU been more dominant, FSU's big splash against Clemson would not have been enough to push them past OSU. After that FSU would not have been able to pass OSU at all because of poll stickiness and because FSU had no more opportunities to make a really big splash. OSU had/has NO opportunities to make a big splash until the B1GCG against MSU. The Wisconsin game was too early, with Wisconsin coming off a recent loss to ASU.
What I'm saying is no one is keeping OSU down. You could say OSU is not receiving the usual benefit of doubt we're used to receiving because OSU fergodsakes. That's not bias against, it's insufficient bias toward.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Wildbear, dude . . . I thought I was being clear, but apparenty not, so let me try one more time.
First, I wasn't making an argument; I was refuting the implicit logic of your point, which was expressed by way of a rhetorical question: that, even if we assume bias/narratives working against Ohio State, they can't have been harmed by it, to date, because one couldn't make a reasonable and convincing case that they ought to be ranked higher than #3 and that's what they're ranked.
I showed that it is possible for Ohio State to have been harmed by the bias/narratives (the presence of which you conceded) even if we assume that they're currently ranked as highly as reasonably appropriate (I'm not saying I agree with this point, but I'll concede it to make a logical point). It's not necessary for you to agree that Ohio State is in fact being harmed by the bias/narratives, only that you see that we cannot rule out the possibility/likelihood that it is based on your line of reasoning. And so we're back to square one, which is just fine.

Boxley's picture

Baylor is 9-0, OSU is 10-0 in a stronger conference (historically, and currently), that stat alone is all that is needed to show bias.
 

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WildBear Buckeye's picture

Baylor is 9-0, OSU is 10-0 in a stronger conference (historically, and currently), that stat alone is all that is needed to show bias.

Right now it's at best a push. OKSt./Oklahoma/Texas are just as impressive at MSU/Wisconsin/...who?
 

southbuc's picture

Really, you are basing your argument on Texas???  That has me laughing as the whole "Big 12 is good narrative" presupposes that Texas doesn't suck (which it does).

southbuc's picture

How has ESPN's bias hurt OSU? Because OSU started the season #2 and the entire dialogue was about how good UFM is in his second year and that UFM and Tuscalucifer would control the NCS for the next 1,000 years.  Then suddenly OSU doesn't win by 50 (to a Buffalo team that is now 8-3) and suddenly the buckeyes aren't #2...

camodog's picture

Its ESPN. They own the rights to ACC and next year the SEC Network. They have a vested interest in making sure that those leagues prosper. The B1G is partially owned by CBS, but who really watches CBS anyways?
 

Thajinn's picture

No the BigTen network is partially owend by FOXSPORTS NETWORK NOT cBS..cBS has a BIG contract with SEC..

osuxrow07's picture

The bias exists with ESPN. ESPN drives the media market when it comes to college football, and their reporting influences not only other media sources, but voters who are not watching OSU play football week in and week out.

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DaiTheFlu's picture

Wildbear, perhaps reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Pretty sure it was stated IN DETAIL by Ramzy what about it is unfair. Having our team dropped several times in the rankings this year AFTER resounding wins is unfair. Criticizing a team that put up 60 points on the road is unfair. Oh, and the team that passed Ohio State in the AP poll this week won by an almost identical margin, yet they "rolled", while our Buckeyes "survived".

Pretty sure all of those things are specific enough.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

ejoceans's picture

Great post man!! I love it and agree 100%. The days of being pissed about what these bums say on the tv are over but its a little hard to watch OUR team while they just bash every incomplete pass and every 2yd run.  It is very clear that MOST analysts are against the Buckeyes just in their tone of voice as they bash them after every play of the game(except when we score cause its hard to bash that). But if they see a blown play by the other team they will be quick to point that out as the reason why we scored in the first place! O H
 

Lets do this Brutus

Seattle Linga's picture

Nicely said - so much to prove and so little time - great follow up post.
I-O

fear_the_nut70's picture

I guess what was bothering me was not the ranking (I think you can justify putting us # 3) but the complete failure to present facts that would at least open the argument up for a real debate.  E.g.,  I hear all the time about our "weak" schedule but never see people (other than analysts on B1G network) put Sagarin rankings up there for the other programs.  So I have to respectfully disagree with your post.

KLF Buckeye's picture

Haters can only take the enjoyment of being a Buckeye fan away if the fan lets them.

kcbrez's picture

Excellent piece. I love columns like this.

stittracer99's picture

Ramzy for President!

OSUStu's picture

Some very good points in this article Ramzy.  
The best thing I took from it, I think, is this:  We are in the midst of watching a historic run by our beloved team.  We are watching some players that will be considered among the greats in Buckeye lore.  Some of them won't be around much longer.  We know how good this team is and can be.  Let's not be overcome by the bias against us when we should be reveling in this great season.

If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.  ~ Bruce Lee

TMac's picture

Ramzy's right, the narrative started on January 8, 2007 and we may not get the chance to change that narrative on the field this season. But nobody other than the Buckeyes have the chance to go to 23-0 this Saturday!!   Go Bucks!!

mh277907's picture

"This is one of the most talented, entertaining and likable teams you will ever have the pleasure of enjoying."
Spot on.

buckeyebobcat

Baroclinicity's picture

There are a lot of people that need to read this piece. 
Don't miss out on what has been a great year.  There are only two games left before the bowl game.  Soak it up!

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

RunEddieRun1983's picture

Well said.  If only some jack off from ESPN would wake up and read the actual numbers.

I don't always downvote, but I do always downvote a Michigan fan trolling the Buckeye boards.

ATXbucknut's picture

Agreed. While sports journalism as an institution has never necessarily been held in high regard (with apologies to exceptional journos like Frank DeFord and Ramzy), the lazy opinions most of the pundits ESPN features on television debase sports journalism to an even greater extent.
Very few pundits perform due diligence by doing hard research before expressing their opinion, thus we're left with a national narrative founded upon the uninformed impressions of lazy pseudo journalists ("hacks").
But this is the state of the media writ large in our country today. Gone are the days of heady investigative journalism units and research staffs.

Tdizzle's picture

Ramzy great read and awesome interview on 95.5 the game this morning!!!!

Earle's picture

I ain't even mad.  I'll admit that I've spent a fair amount of energy rooting against the Stanfords, Oregons, Alabamas, Florida States, and more recently, Baylors of the college football world this year.  But I have tuned out the media nonsense since all of the "Luckeyes" noise of 2002.
I am enjoying this streak, this team, this season.  Sure, I'll be upset if the Buckeyes win out and don't get their shot, but I still won't let that ruin my pleasure of watching Ohio State dispatching whoever gets in its path.
I still think the Buckeyes will be in the NCG one way or another, if they win these last three games, but that is beside the point.  This is a team worth reveling in, no matter what the noise from the outside may be.
Enjoy the ride, Buckeye fans.

 

Italics are for emphasis.

osuxrow07's picture

It's funny how the media drives us to believe, and I'm certainly guilty of it, that an undefeated season and potential Rose Bowl berth are marks of an unsuccessful football team.
Definitely need to remember in a positive light what this team and what these seniors have been able to accomplish. It's certainly NOT the NCG or bust. Great article! 

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Enzo's picture

Florida started it and LSU secured it.
 
I probably already know the answer to this, but why do these teams get a pass for their miserable BCS bowl records? Oklahoma got clowned by Florida in the '08 championship. The so called "bell cows" of the ACC are disgraceful.
 
Oklahoma       3-5   .375
Florida State    2-5   .286
Virginia Tech   1-5   .167

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Um ... these teams get a pass? Oklahoma hasn't sniffed the top 5 in a long while, and I think it's been more than a decade for VaTech. FSU was known for a decade for starting out ranked high-ish (I don't believe it was ever top 3 during that time) and dropping like a rock during the season. FSU's current ranking ahead of OSU is a result of three differences: win over a top 10 team, overall margin of victory, and average points given up. FSU has blown out (and held below 18 points) everyone except BC, while OSU has failed to do so.

simpson203's picture

By that same logic, why hasn't FSU passed 'Bama?
#narrative "Because they were last years champs and remain 1st until they're beaten"
Oh, so we count last year too?  tOSU went 12-0 and are now 22-0
#narrative "last year doesn't count.... they didn't play anyone... they weren't eligible"
So, despite having scholarship reductions and nothing to play for in the way of a championship, UFM still got his team to win every game, and that's not an accomplishment?   I think this is the common conversation we tOSU fans are tired of.  It's an obvious double standard. 

WildBear Buckeye's picture

By that same logic, why hasn't FSU passed 'Bama?
#narrative "Because they were last years champs and remain 1st until they're beaten"

I don't think so at all. FSU hasn't passed Bama because their resumes are actually quite comparable. FSU stomped a top 5 team away, Bama just beat a top 10 team away. Outside of that, and outside of FSU's relatively close game with BC, they've both completely stomped their competition and have limited that competition to 17 points or fewer.
The problem with OSU this season is that it started out not very impressively, and then continued to fail to impress over and over again. If OSU followed Buffalo with the same kind of dominance FSU and Bama have demonstrated, I firmly believe they'd be ranked #2 right now behind Bama. Even if Oregon hadn't lost to Stanford, I think they retaken #2 from Oregon in mid October during Oregon's Washington/Wazzu/UCLA stretch. All three were fairly competitive with Oregon, at least for a while. If Ohio State had Bama'd/FSU'd Wisconsin/Northwestern/Iowa (by which I mean 40+ to 17-or-fewer, as opposed to 31-24, 40-30 and trailed at half, 34-24 and trailed at half), Ohio State would have passed Oregon.
Yes, there is definitely an underlying suspicion of successful B1G teams right now. But had OSU not opened the door to this, it wouldn't have been an issue right now. If Bama was giving up as many points as OSU and trailing at the half to the likes of Ole Miss and Tennesse, you can bet your bottom dollar we'd all be hearing "what's wrong with Bama".

ejoceans's picture

Clemson SUCKS!!! NO top ten team should ever get beat by 40 pts! EVER! If they do it just proves that they were not that dang good to begin with.

Lets do this Brutus

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Clemson SUCKS!!! NO top ten team should ever get beat by 40 pts! EVER! If they do it just proves that they were not that dang good to begin with.

So, you're arguing that FSU shouldn't be ranked ahead of Alabama? Because you might think Clemson "sucks", but they are at least as impressive as Wisconsin - say in the 10-15 range. FSU's win over Clemson was certainly more impressive than OSU's win against Wisconsin. The rest of FSU's resume is more impressive than OSU's in that their wins are more impressive against comparable competition. So it's hard to see an argument that OSU should be ranked ahead of FSU other than "OSU started ahead of FSU and should have stayed there".

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Really, the Clemson win explains the whole thing. They were still ranked below the Buckeyes until after that game.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Exactly.
Poll slots are sticky. One unimpressive game isn't enough to dislodge you and one great win usually isn't enough to push you past another undefeated team. But they're not so sticky that a combination of a great win and several unimpressive wins by a team ahead of you can't move you past them.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

If you're going to routinely scold us homers while elevating yourself in the role of Mr. Rational, you well served to avoid making mistakes in reasoning, yourself.
V Tech hasn't sniffed the top 5 in a long while because they're always losing 2+ games a year, including frequent early losses. If they hadn't lost those games, they wouldn't have had to stand outside the top 5 sniffin' it. They would have been parked inside the top 5 kitchen. In other words, your example does't show media skepticism toward the ACC; it shows that V Tech ain't been that good.

Boxley's picture

Wildbear = Bear , Bear = Baylor,  Bear = Troll. 

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

WildBear Buckeye's picture

V Tech hasn't sniffed the top 5 in a long while because they're always losing 2+ games a year, including frequent early losses. If they hadn't lost those games, they wouldn't have had to stand outside the top 5 sniffin' it. They would have been parked inside the top 5 kitchen. In other words, your example does't show media skepticism toward the ACC; it shows that V Tech ain't been that good.

Maybe you should go back and re-read Enzo's comment and my response. Here, I'll quote the relevant parts for you:

I probably already know the answer to this, but why do these teams get a pass for their miserable BCS bowl records? Oklahoma got clowned by Florida in the '08 championship. The so called "bell cows" of the ACC are disgraceful.
    Oklahoma       3-5   .375
    Florida State    2-5   .286
    Virginia Tech   1-5   .167

Mine:

Um ... these teams get a pass?

My only point was that there's absolutely no evidence that Oklahoma and VaTech get a pass. You're saying the fact that they lost 2+ games every year is evidence that they still somehow get a pass?

If you're going to routinely scold us homers while elevating yourself in the role of Mr. Rational, you well served to avoid making mistakes in reasoning, yourself.

I haven't scolded anyone, though I suppose you could argue I've "elevated myself in the role of Mr. Rational". But you might consider working on reading comprehension before accusing me of "making mistakes in reasoning", whatever that means.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Wildbear: My reading comprehension does kinda suck, but my understanding of logic is pretty good. Okay, forget the media's treatment of the ACC - I led myself astray when I saw that you cited two ACC teams.
My main point was that your logic did not support your point. Again, your didn't refute that V Tech or Oklahoma are getting a pass - maybe they are; maybe they're not. But it doesn't suffice to show that both teams have rarely been in the top 5. In the last 3+ years, V Tech's program has declined (17th in winning percentage from 2010 - 2012 and they're struggling again this season). I don't know what they're average ranking has been during that time, but let's say, just for sake of argument, that it's been around 14th. Well, maybe that average ranking has been inflated in their favor because they did "get a pass" from the media. Maybe without that pass, their average ranking would have been even lower. Maybe better performing programs from other conferences have experienced lower average rankings than V Tech because they didn't get a pass.
In other words, presence in the Top 5 is an insufficient barometer of whether a program is getting a pass. A mediocre program that gets a pass still probably won't find itself in the top 5 very often, but it's still getting a pass. So try again.
And to be clear: I'm not trying to prove the V tech, or Oklahoma, or FSU case one way or the other; I'm trying to show that your premise was not supported.   

droessl's picture

I want to shout this entire article from on top of a mountain, but I don't have a mountain. I have a desk and a computer.

Hayesedandconfused's picture

I am 4118 ft above sea level in sec country, I'll take care of that for you

Haybucks's picture

Nicely done, Ramzy. Keeping things in proper perspective is something difficult to do in this golden age of social media. We're not dead yet, heck we're not even on our death bed. We can enjoy what have and be thankful we're Buckeyes.

I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.
- Edward Gibbon
 

XUbuckeye's picture

Well done Ramzy, spot on column!

"So when you get knocked on your butt, get up, get over it, and then next time, kick their ass." - Woody Hayes 

misterbulbous's picture

I think my OSU football watching enjoyment would actually be better if they had already lost one game.  I can live without the constant media manipulation of the BCS process.

Baroclinicity's picture

This is tragic.  You're missing out.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

misterbulbous's picture

I'm not sure what you mean, but my comment is somewhat "tongue in cheek".  I love the undefeated bucks, love this team with all my heart and agree 1000% with Ramzy's well-written article.  I live down in SEC country (Kentucky) and even though UK is the bottomest bottom-feeder in the SEC, I hear the narrative all day and night.
UK fans here actually root for their team to lose by "a lot" of points to other SEC teams, that way their SEC brethren are more likely to move up in the polls. 

Baroclinicity's picture

Fair enough.  Sarcasm usually uses italics here.  Didn't see it, so I thought you were serious, so, my bad.  And to my defense, with the "sky is falling" attitude around here lately, I thought it was a serious post.
Keep on keepin' on down in SEC land, my friend.
 

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

misterbulbous's picture

Yeah, I can live without the falling sky....down here Coach Calipari would blame it on his young recruits.

buckeyes763's picture

I actually had this same sentiment for a fleeting second, then I checked myself and remembered that I'm not going to let the media win. Who cares what the media says, Ohio State has essentially given the country a 22 week long middle finger for freaking out over trophies for tattoos.

doodah_man's picture

Ramzy, you are now my official Ohio State Football ranter in chief. Thanks.

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

Jason Gruber's picture

Good read. It puts things in perspective. I, for one, will simply enjoy the remaining games with this team. We need to remember that the talking heads hate us for the same reason anyone not from the Bronx hates the Yankees. All we do is win!!! We need to enjoy the fact that every time our Buckeyes win a game, it make Jessie Palmer lose his mind trying to figure out an excuse why the "better" team behind us lost. I guess the excuse this week after baylor loses is that Baylor didn't play Stanford ball either. 

"You win with People" Woody Hayes

chinooker97's picture

How can the four letter word joke-of-a-network keep manufacturing stats to suggest how bad OSU is?  Doesn't this same entity rank of our recruiting classes in the top 5-10 every single year?  They say OSU has no credibility, they should take a long look at themselves.  OSU must only recruit the slowest players rated in the top 300 recruits every year.

"Because we couldn't go for three."

Hovenaut's picture

*Stands up, walks. Quickly evolves into run*

Where's a wall when you need one?

I am not the Last Dragon, therefore I do not possess the power of the Glow.

JeffCoBuck's picture

Yet another one hammered over the wall and outta here, Ramzy.  I hate to say the same thing after all your columns, but holy crap - you nail it every week.
I would love to say more, but I'm on lunch break and don't have the time, but let me boil it down to this: the unfair and inconsistent treatment Ohio State is getting nationally is beyond ludicrous.  If they are somehow shut out of the BCSNCG (which is looking more and more likely without help), I pity whomever the Buckeyes play in their bowl game.  Urban will have these guys worked into such a lather they won't be able to see straight.  As far as missing the forest for the trees, not this guy.  This season has been awesome from Jump Street.  Go Bucks.

BUCKNUTINmi's picture

Can someone post a link to the strength of schedule rankings.  I would like to take a look at a few other schools.  Thanks
 

misterbulbous's picture

and by the way...thanks for finally posting a .gif of that whacky Kenny G face.  I saw that during the game and almost spilled my drink. 

doodah_man's picture

...beer came out my nose. Had to reverse the DVR three times.

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

misterbulbous's picture

man...i did the exact same thing.  Probably DVR'd it back about ten times.  I told my wife it'd be on twitter in less than a minute, but I never saw it.  This one needs more attention.

cplunk's picture

I know this will mark me as an "oldster", but this is why I hated the BCS and will hate the playoffs as well. The narrative becomes about getting to the championship/playoffs. It becomes about what teams belong from among the 100+ football teams in D1.
Before the BCs there was no "National Championship". There were just great teams, followed by rabid fans. I could enjoy football for football and there was no point in worrying about where we went. We won the Big Ten and went to the Rose Bowl, or we didn't. Simple.
In the new environment? Well now I have to worry about whether Wisconsin beats LSU next year in their early game or Michigan State beats Oregon. Because if they don't then the B1G champ could well be left out of a four team playoff. I have to worry about Spartans and Badgers, and how Hoosiers look against some MAC team.
This is awful. It isn't by any stretch of the imagination better or more fun. The moment that college football decided we just had to have a system to choose a definitive championis the moment college football started to die. And the playoffs are not going to make it better, they are going to make it worse. Now we'll watch whatever team got hot at the right time win a "championship" due to the vagaries of timing.
Ohio State-Michigan? Doesn't matter really. Only out of conference games set the narrative or have the power to change it. Rivalries mean less than early season neutral site matchups.
I love my Bucks and will never stop following them, but man do I miss the days where I never had to care about teams we didn't play unless I wanted to. Those days are gone forever.

Baroclinicity's picture

Perfection.

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

Ohio State-Michigan? Doesn't matter really.

Eh, I think I'm gonna disagree with you on that.
I'm sorry, but I really don't get the angst in your post. If you don't care who wins the national championship, there's really no one who is forcing you to care.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Earle's picture

I get your rant against the current and future systems, but I always cared what happened to other highly ranked teams on New Year's Day (back when all the major bowls were played then).  I would always root against teams rated higher than Ohio State in the hope that the Buckeyes would move up in the final polls, whether they were in the NC hunt or not.
There may have not have been National Championship games (though many games were de facto NCG's), but there were always National Champions, be they disputed, split, or otherwise muddled.
Ohio State-Michigan will always matter.  Does the fact that the winner may also get the opportunity to play in the B1G Championship or a potential NCG somehow diminish the rivalry in a way that the winner getting to play in the Rose Bowl somehow enhanced it?  Or does the opportunity for the underdog to deal a death blow to a team's NC hopes somehow less appealing than knocking them out of a New Year's Day matchup with a one or two-loss PAC 10 champ?
I love the tradition.  I love the Rose Bowl.  I love Ohio State vs. Michigan.  But give me a playoff, even a flawed one.  Anything that takes power away from imbecilic media voters is a huge win in my book.
 

Italics are for emphasis.

Boxley's picture

Spot on as usual Earle. +1

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

Jeeves's picture

Bloody effing brilliant, my sentiments exactly.

Dougger's picture

This is me clapping slowly for Ramzy and the 2012-2013 Ohio State football team. Well done. 

I like football

Brashbuck's picture

Ramzy, you make a powerful point that I hadn't considered until I read your column - this really is a likeable team.  Yes, I would probably root for the Manson Family if they wore the S&G, but it is really easy to like this set of coaches and players.
As to the rest, really, it comes down to what is ultimately the point of playing the games.  I continue to believe the point is winning, in whatever form that may take.  If I wanted to watch a game where beauty, style or aesthetics were integral to the outcome, I'd watch figure skating.  If Jim Furyk shoots 59, no one cares that his golf swing makes it look like he is weed-wacking the lawn.  TOSU has done a lot of winning, and that works for me.

IBleedSandG's picture

If Jim Furyk shoots 59, no one cares that his golf swing makes it look like he is weed-wacking the lawn.

As an avid golfer, I found that quite funny. +1.

"You pick up the rifle and go as hard as you can possibly go."
-UFM

simpson203's picture

I was thinking about this the other day...
Can you image what it'll feel like to be the poor hapless bastards that have to face us in the Rose Bowl if we get left out.  You thought Urban created a pissed-off football team last year?  And odds are we'll face Oregon... If they were dominated by Standford's power run game, imagine what El Guapo will do to them...

Brashbuck's picture

Ramzy, BTW, forgot to add to my post above, following your tweets has become a required part of my college football experience.  You are The King of Twitter!

buckeyejonross's picture

frowny face.

"You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over." -William T., Battle of Atlanta, B1G.

Twtitus's picture

Great article! As always well written and factual.  Amazing what facts will do to an article. 

AZVO's picture

Your Advice to the Buckeye Nation is perfect.  Enjoy the moment of being a Buckeye and love this team, the coaches, the players, their outstanding accomplishments - winning!  Focus on the next game and enjoy every play.  Players and coaches being the best they can be on each play is what will create wins.  Supportive fans help push the team forward week to week.
 
IGNORE the polls, the talking heads that can't seem to do anything more than rehash myths about the SEC, speed, quickness, SOS or whatever.  Wasting any time on those idiots makes no sense.  
For right now just focus on INDIANA and how to demolish their defense, and cripple their offense with the incredible players and coaches we have on both sides of the ball.  Time enough for later victories and proof that we are the Best Damn Team in the country.  We believe it.  Our Coaches believe it.  And our players, trainers, managers, band, cheerleaders and the fans KNOW it.  Who cares what the F others want to think.
Go Bucks!  Have fun playing and  WINNING.  I don't care for a nanosecond how the computers, the biased voters, or anyone out there rates us vs other teams  I know we are the best we can be and I absolutely love watching this team play.  Stay Strong Buckeye.  Stay Focused on THIS week.

Festrina! Liente...

Thajinn's picture

there can also be the Spin that ESpiN and cBS is doing, that makes them more $$$. Is to get all those Buckeye fans Eyeballs to watch there football matchups and up there ratings in prossess because those games influance Buckeye's in the polls.. Its a win win situation for them ratings wise =MORE$$$$$$

Jim2574's picture

Ramzy, great article

Jim2574

RedStorm45's picture

ESPN is now manufacturing more intrigue about Baylor's rise

The link doesn't seem to be working, just fyi.

RedStorm45's picture

An actual playoff can't get here soon enough.  Seriously, work something out this year so we can see these four on the field this season.  I'm sure there's enough $$$$ there to keep the NCAA AND ESPN happy.

fear_the_nut70's picture

I have always hated preseason polls because by definition they had to be based 100% on speculation (though educated speculation as recruiting information and no. of returning players could be factored in).  At some point, though, I had to acknowledge that they were being used and really impacted a team’s chances from on the onset, as it is much easier to be ranked in the top 2 at the end if you start somewhere in the top ten than it is if you don't.  So when we started # 2, I figured at the onset, all Ohio State had to do was take care of business in mostly convincing fashion.  What transpired has obviously been the subject of much conversation, and as such, I won't rehash.  My question for the knowledgeable people here is, can anyone remember a time in BCS history where a team started in one of the top 2 spots, and either won out or at worst had no more losses than those around them, and yet, ultimately dropped in the polls?  I cannot.  2007 LSU losing twice but rising back to its spot seems like the antithesis of what we have experienced this season (as they jumped several 1 loss teams).  Am I forgetting a situation where this occurred?

Whosisbrew's picture

I put this comment in another thread, but I'm re-posting it because it fits perfectly with what's discussed in this post.
"Listening to the announcers at the end of this game was insufferable. I kept thinking "Guys, you have a game to call. This is a football game, not a lazy roundtable discussion about BCS bullcrap."

And between listening to those two clowns micro-analyze each play as if it were going to be the difference between being ranked No. 3 and No. 4 and listening to sourpuss Mark May prattle on like a mindless troll, I realized: It's far too late in the BCS' lifespan for me to be mad about this anymore. Getting mad about things such as this is equivalent to getting filled with righteous indignation while watching cable news networks. They want me to be angry, and I'm simply not going to be anymore.
The fact is, the team I root for has been victorious in 22 consecutive contests. Maybe cynical navel-gazing journalists don't see the value in that, but I do. It means everything to me as an Ohio State fan and it's been nothing but an absolute pleasure watching this team over the past two seasons. And ESPN can't keep me mad anymore just so that I'll watch games that I normally wouldn't care about. This team is simply too much fun to watch and I'm too proud to care.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: What's the punishment here? Having to watch grown men yell at each other on television and analyze a team via their own narrow criteria? Screw it. I hope Ohio State wins every game. Where they end up in the eyes of these clowns is irrelevant to me."

 

ejoceans's picture

Great post man!! I love it and agree 100%. The days of being pissed about what these bums say on the tv are over but its a little hard to watch OUR team while they just bash every incomplete pass and every 2yd run.  It is very clear that MOST analysts are against the Buckeyes just in their tone of voice as they bash them after every play of the game(except when we score cause its hard to bash that). But if they see a blown play by the other team they will be quick to point that out as the reason why we scored in the first place! O H

Lets do this Brutus

fear_the_nut70's picture

@ Who, I like your post, thanks for the response.  I think that maybe you misread my post as a cleverly disguised complaint about our current predicament.  I did not mean it to be that, but more of an intellectual exercise as I was truly curious as to whether this has happened before.
While I have touted the company line ("who cares what the haters say, enjoy the season) for weeks, there was a part of me that was still getting a little chapped.  Until the last week, I still went on sites and tried to at least reason with those that insisted on blindly repeating the national sound-bite narrative.  I stopped doing this.  It is almost as if the early start of this narrative coupled with excessive exposure to it has me completely over it.
In discussions about playoffs and the BCS, I now believe that a title in CFB is mythical.  Yes, win the BCS CG, and the public as a whole will consider you champs (except if it is Ohio State, then it was gifted to you via the refs).  With this realization, the fact that this remarkable run has been so enjoyable, and the fact that I truly love the Rose Bowl, i have been able to completely unplug and just enjoy the season.  My inquiry really was a curiosity at this point and nothing more, but I can see why you responded the way that you did.  Thanks for the well written post, I agree whole-heartedly.

TBDBITLinWIScantSON's picture

Damn, I tried reading the comments, but you're right Ramzy, this is
EXHAUSTING!!!!! -having a great team, program, band, and just being plain awesome.
But I stopped listening to the mouth garbage from perceived experts a long time ago.
Not because I want to bury my head, or cover my ears, but because I watch the games and form my own opinions. These experts are allowed to keep talking because a lot of people like what they say. And equally, a lot of people despise them, and what they say. Go figure

WB

ejoceans's picture

Do you even watch espn late sat nights?? If not then you may not hear what is being said.  Its almost like osu is unproven team from the mountain west that is undefeated for the fist time(ala Baylor) and they are trying to make a statement.  Since when is going down by 20 and needing to come back to win an impressive feat?  IDK about you but Baylor should NOT be ranked 4th but maybe 5th or 6th as I would put NIU in front of them because they have had more success than Baylor in the past 10 yrs.  I mean if we are going by that.  You would have to be blind to not see the HUGE bias against osu on that station and even to a degree on the BTN too.  O H

Lets do this Brutus

AltaBuck's picture

To my surprise, a Saban-Meyer rematch has been trumped by ESPN's conference interests and the associated long term $$$. I really thought at the beginning of the year, if tOSU and Alabama went undefeated, it would be a given that those teams would meet in the NC. Saban versus Meyer would be the narrative.

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Great read Ramzy, and thanks for providing some much needed perspective, and helping us identify that gnawing, indigestion-like feeling we are collectively experiencing. Was it really just two years ago that the bottom had fallen out? And now we have a great team, great recruits, great promise, a great coach, and  the longest current winning streak in D1? Hell, the band is even better than it was two years ago!
I've been around long enough to know that life isn't always fair. In fact it is mostly not always fair. I'm also aware how rare 22-0 is. This kind of streak almost never happens. It truly is a great time to be a Buckeye!
I'll be in the Shoe on Saturday and I know as soon as that band comes out of the tunnel I will have that familiar lump in my throat as I once again say to myself "you only have so many of these left - take it all in and enjoy it". Come on 23-0! Buckeye history will be made!

zhamilton05's picture

Usually when I read some excellent, logical, well-worded piece about tOSU football, I scroll back up to the author and find that it's Ramzy Nasrallah. Usually when I read some doltish piece about tOSU football that makes me seethe with rage, I scroll up to the author and find it's some schlub from The Dispatch...or Dennis Dodd.

Davep160's picture

Thanks for the write up Ramzy.  Always a great read.   

Doc's picture

Thank you Ramzy, I needed that.

"Say my name."

Boxley's picture

Geez Ramzy, only 100 posts on your weekly gem in the first few hours, mid day, mid week?
Slacker.
Exhausting...................Yes........Very so sick of all the negativity, the polls, the Lb situation , LF can't coach crap......................
All we can control is what we allow to affect us.
I canceled my membership to BN , effective EOY (end of my paid membership) (renewed my life membership at 11W this week as well.) because of the vitriol, stupidity on the site and by alleged Buckeye fans. Just had enough and was not going to be able to stay civil, so just going to stop reading anything beyond the articles. Some of the articles are very "flavored" by certain authors of the site, that I feel are detrimental/negative to the school.
Their site has also become..Exhausting.
Has this not been the most exhausting 22 game win streak in your life?
It has been for me.

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

Breakawayspeed's picture

Top to bottom, talent-wise, this is the best OSU team I have ever seen (with 2006 and 1968 close behind).  It has been a joy to watch how many different ways they can beat the opposition.  They deserve our respect and for us fans to defend them from the absolute trashing they are taking from friends (looking at you BTN Network) and foes alike.  Every Sunday is another outrage of changing standards and a concerted effort to downgrade their accomplishments.
In a just world this team will get a chance to prove all these muthafuckers wrong.  I cry out for justice!!  If not, I will just cry.  

WildBear Buckeye's picture

Yes, in a just world no undefeated team would be denied a chance to compete for the NC. But leaving out undefeated FSU or undefeated Baylor is no more just than leaving out undefeated OSU.

stevebelliseeya's picture

I think we got it dude. Maybe the narrative isn't exactly the way it's being described in these posts, but the overall picture is clear.
If you can't see even some small media bias against Ohio State then I believe you need to look harder. Just an example from last weekend where, with almost identical scores, Baylor dominates opposition and Ohio State struggles....both on the same ESPN CF front page. 
Everyone here is aware of the struggles of the B1G and what it ( and to an extent our BCS NCG losses ) does to perception of Ohio State...
Can you please just stop? This is supposed to be a happy place. Seems like you are continuing an argument just to be difficult. I give you an upvote for at least being persistent. 
Persistently annoying.

"We are eternal. All this pain is an illusion." - Tool

Buck_YES's picture

I half agree with you, Russian-Pooh.
But I don't think it was "fair" when Oregon Jumped us for beating Nichol St. when we beat Buffao.  Clemson Beat Georgia (top 5 matchup), they Jumped us, fine; they both proceeded to loose more yet we did not climb back up.  Florida St. beat Clemson and Miami which is great for them, but does that imply that we couldn't do the same? if not, why do we get jumped? What is the reason for Baylor Jumping Ohio State? So, while I understand that it's a circular argument on both sides, but if the Preseason Coaches Poll matters, then why should we have been jumped? if it doesn't matter, then why hasn't FSU and Baylor jumped Alabama?
Either way, Whatever, OSU is 22-0, I like our team better than theirs. I'll root for us to win every game and I'll be so happy if we can go undefeated again this year. Period.

Matt M.'s picture

Edited -- not worth the effort. 
Let 'em bash. Go Bucks! 

buckeyes763's picture

So what you're saying here Ramzy is that Ohio State's season, much like life, is like a rose bush. There are both thorns (media) and roses (oh hey there 22 straight W's), and all we have to do is smell the roses a little bit more.

IBleedSandG's picture

The Bucks should wear these socks on Saturday. (sock reads "I love Haters!")

"You pick up the rifle and go as hard as you can possibly go."
-UFM

sloopy88's picture

And now 11w is literally exactly like my family's discussions of OSU football.  Makes me feel like home.

Blue Eyed Buckeye's picture

because your football memory extends beyond the past 20 minutes. It’s your curse.

Hahaha this was the best line I've read all month!

misterbulbous's picture

ESPN is becoming very adept at having a reporter/commentator make a comment and then creating entire story lines about it.  Best example is below, but just this week Mike and Mike and PTI have had entire segments about "what Trent Dilfer said last night" or "what Ray Lewis said after the MNF game".  So if they chose a story to embelish or popularize, it's as easy as having a reporter say something over-the-top and then creating a lot of ancillary topics on their talk shows.  
 
http://deadspin.com/how-espn-manufactures-a-story-colin-kaepernick-edition-1185400028

Athens BuckCat's picture

this article sums it up perfectly. well done

johnblairgobucks's picture

Excellent Article.  I have gotten to the point where I'm almost at a loss for words, when I watch the media say things regarding tOSU's Football team.  I'm happy to read fellow Buckeye's thoughts on the matter. 
Go Bucks! Roll them Hoosiers up!

Seattle Linga's picture

Agreed JB - after awhile you go numb to the whole bashing week in and week out. 

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

It is fucking exhausting trying to beat down this ridiculous tag we seemed unable to shake!  I look at the positive - if we sucked, we won't have this issue so I'll take on the task and continue slap down these imbeciles!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

ScarletNGrey01's picture

The man is a gifted writer for sure.  Good advice on many levels, applies to other aspects of life as well.  Frames the narrative really well and subtly points to the hypocrisy and vested interest as well as the desperate grab for clicks.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

buckeyedude's picture

Ramzy Nasrallah...the pulse of Buckeye Nation. Flag football is coming, make no mistake.
I just hope that when I die, my body isn't used to make Soylent Green.

 

 

buckeyedude's picture

Hey! Does anybody know if El Guapo is taking requests? I would like to see another 5 TD performance.

 

 

PhoenixBuckeye's picture

When I see The Game for my first live visit to the Big Outhouse in just over a week, I certainly won't be thinking of the polls. Sharing that game with my dad will be with me forever...The BCS, however, is temporary. Great article.