My inability to self-edit is renouned. It's like unverbed, but the opposite.
Here, have some upvotes
Oh, and re: Knight - and I embedded it in the article but didn't call it out explicitly: He was one of my instructors at IU and I also covered him/his team for the IDS while I was bouncing between OSU and IU. I got to see how he treats people he likes vs. people he doesn't like or doesn't know. You immediately know who you are. He was always good to me.
Do you think that the small generational gap between Knight and Woody (esp. the era that each coached in) had anything to do with how each might be remembered as well?
Nope. Coach K is only like 6 years younger than Knight. Leonard Hamilton is pushing 70 and Jim Boeheim/Steve Fischer are in their 70s already. And Knight is actively a dick right now. He does not care.
If Woody had coached today (or even 10 years ago, a la Tressel) under the microscope of the internet, would he be remembered as fondly?
My only memories of Woody were of the nice little old man who lived on Cardiff in UA when I was a kid - I don't have real or personal memories of him coaching because I was born in mid-70s. That said, I do think Woody took some good advice that was unfortunately bad for him - he should have been done in 1975 and gone straight to teaching. Like anyone else who shouldn't be at a job too long, the worst of him got the best of him and it ruined everything.
"I was worn out the last three or four years," Hayes says. "I stayed a little too long. But you know one reason why I did? I had some advice from three great coaches who all felt they quit too soon. You know who they were? Bud Wilkinson. And see, he came back to pro coaching. Doyt Perry [at Bowling Green]. And do you know who the third one was? Vince Lombardi. I'll tell you what he told me about it. After he retired [in 1967], he became the general manager in Green Bay and I saw him in Cleveland in the press box. I took my quarterbacks up to introduce them to him. And he was going nuts there at the half time. He called me aside and said, 'Woody, don't quit too soon. I did.' "
FYI - this forum topic was the inspiration for a column I'm running this afternoon. It had been in my head for awhile but I Hope They're All Dead accelerated it to the top of the Offseason #content queue. Thanks, team. Cledaybuck - your check is in the mail.
Amadeo, Shannon Scott, Loving seems to loaf a lot, Mitchell, Grandstaff, they all left you have to laugh
Easily the happiest, most whimsical dude we've had here - and we're a pretty happy and whimsical bunch.
It's a devastating loss. RIP Corey.
And then I went from thinking Oh Shit to Oh Fuck and cock sandwich and whatever other profane thing I could think of as my alcohol injured brain tried to come to grips with the concept of Brady Hoke performing a victory dance and crying big crocodile tears of joy.
This is a harrowing recap of what we all went through in real time, and it makes me want to organize Oh Shit Oh Fuck Cock Sandwich: An Oral History of the 2013 Ohio State-Michigan Game with the rest of the staff at the 11W executive retreat this summer.
Edit: Here you go. Earned.
He does. Avid reader; infrequent poster.
There are a couple of B1G title games in there that lend two postseason games to one season.
Why TF is this on here? It has nothing to do with OSU football, is obviously stupid politics/entertainment and has no place here. Funny no one is allowed to comment on politics but you write an entire article and allow the thread to take sides. Who gives a shit, it is one opinion in millions. Get it off here.
1. Have a very hard time believing you read it before commenting. I think you're commenting about the comments, not the story.
2. That said, the comments that I've skimmed are civil and I'd only edit/delete fractions of a few of them, but there's nothing egregious.
3. People who cannot even pretend to be adults about topics that tweak them even slightly - people like you - are the reason we have rules against hot-button topics here. This was an offseason story arguing that football is, in fact, art. Look at your response to it. Look at how fucking mad you are at nothing.
It's a long offseason. We will chop the autopsy up into a bunch of easily digestible pieces you can enjoy for the duration.
I deliberately kept it as recent as possible. The "greatest Ohio State receivers of all time by complete receiver attribute" portion of your off-season programming isn't for several more months.
Don't want to sound like the "grumpy old man" here