Hyde Dismissed from Team, Bradley Roby Arrested

By Kyle Rowland on July 22, 2013 at 11:34a
512 Comments
Carlos Hyde was dismissed from the Ohio State football team.

[Update: Hyde has been suspended indefinitely, but remains with the team pending student code of conduct and criminal investigations.]

The bad news keeps on coming as Ohio State's national championship hopes took a significant blow Monday with the dismissal of starting running back Carlos Hyde and the weekend arrest of starting cornerback and Thorpe Award candidate Bradley Roby.

Hyde, a senior, is named as a person of interest in an on-going assault investigation. According to a police report obtained by Eleven Warriors, the victim of the alleged assault was struck at Sugar Bar located on Front Street in downtown Columbus in the early morning hours on Saturday.  

In the Buckeyes' 12-0 season last year, Hyde accounted for 1,021 total yards – 970 yards rushing – and 17 touchdowns. 

According to a report from the Columbus Dispatch, Roby was arrested in Bloomington, Ind. and faces preliminary charges of battery resulting in bodily injury. Sources told the Dispatch that he was "asked to leave the bar after a disturbance, refused, and was subdued by bouncers at the bar before being taken into custody."

Here's Roby's case summary:

Bradley Roby's case summary.

Here's a release from the Bloomington Police Department. Roby was removed from Kilroy's Dunkirk after an altercation, and then struck a bouncer in the chest while attempting to re-enter the bar to find his friends:

Bloomington Police Department release concerning Bradley Roby's arrest.

Eleven Warriors will have more on these developing stories. 

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bucks15's picture

I hate the offseason.  

captain obvious's picture

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

njclebuckeye5's picture

2014 anyone?

Lobs it to the endzone... Touchdown Devin Smith!!

cplunk's picture

What in the hell happened last night?
Seriously.

acBuckeye's picture

Roby too!!?? Damn it!!

Idaho Helga's picture

Depth-wise the Carlos thing is painful but I think the Roby thing is worse.
 
  Knuckleheads.   <sigh>

Orlando Buckeye's picture

Well, that is much worse.

FROMTHE18's picture

Idiots. Flat out idiots. Roby should/probably will be suspended for some serious amount of time. Eli Apple, your time may be now. 

Knarcisi's picture

Don't forget Armani Reeves.

FROMTHE18's picture

definitely...he has a chance now too.

Ekes42's picture

This is moving from a bad dream to a nightmare.  What is going on?!?!

703Buckeye's picture

Sad, sad news. It's time to move on asap and let these players live with the mistakes they've made.

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

TennesseeJohn's picture

worst headline ever. 

Smanpoint10's picture

Hyde got what he deserved, unfortunately.

captain obvious's picture

How do you know what happened for sure?

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

otrain2416's picture

Is he flat out dismissed or dismissed pending an investigation?

hit_the_couch's picture

pending.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Squirrel Master's picture

Very unfortunate. I hate to say it but thank god for depth at those positions. If this was Braxton, good lord the year would be done!
and with only a few weeks left till the season starts. Why oh why! 
and this just gives more ammo to those Urban detractors now. Come on guys!

I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!

jtlightner's picture

Hyde we can take the hit on because of the depth at RB.
 
But potentially losing Roby?  I'm am slowly dying inside now.

House804's picture

I find it hilarious that everyone thinks losing Hyde is no big deal.  Before this, it was El Guapo this and that, Urban's first 1,000 yard rusher, blah blah blah.  Then, we lose our STARTING RB and everyone acts like he wasn't that good and that "Smith is probably just as good."  Look, Smith is good.  So are the other RBs.  But there is a reason why Hyde is the starter, got the majority of the carries (along with Braxton), and carried us through some games.  Kid is an absolute stud and losing him hurts our chances.  Period.

We talkin' bout practice?!  Not the game I love...the game I die for.  Practice?!

SPreston2001's picture

Totally agree! El Guapo is/was our best RB. This hurts badly...

Bucks13's picture

This is the nature of the sport. Eventually, no matter what you have to replace your started. At one point Hyde was an unknown and not producing like the starter at the time. The next big thing may be second or third on the depth chart before all of this went down. Now we get to find out who the next stud will be.

jkrk's picture

So true. If anyone thinks otherwise, just think back to last year and imagine a play where Hyde was healthy and fresh and they stuck Rod Smith in anyway. Who doesn't see the difference and think it's a big deal?

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

@ HOUSE - Thanks for stating the obvious and reminding everyone the blow, losing Hyde, gives to the team. Fuckin' A man.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

House804's picture

@ Zona - You're welcome.

We talkin' bout practice?!  Not the game I love...the game I die for.  Practice?!

FROMTHE18's picture

One thing I do not understand is how these players do not get the message. How? I mean both are starters and leaders of the team. They know the drill, they know what Meyer expects of them and Id hope, just by having lived 20 some years of life, they know that breaking the law is wrong. No sympathy for either one. Hope the next guys up care enough about the team and their opportunities not to waste it like Hyde and Roby have now done.

Poison nuts's picture

I just started reading the comments, but I agree wholeheartedly with yours. How the hell do these kids not know better at this point??? Do they think because they are football players at OSU that they are invincible? Truth is, because they are football players at OSU they are actually far less invincible than the rest of us. One slip up & you ruin a career. If I were a player & respected my coach, I would walk away from any potential altercation knowing nothing good could come from it for my team, myself, & my coach. I am beyond disappointed at this & hope this is a wake up call for the entire team...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Kvs66's picture

We feel really bad as fans, just think how this "me generation thug mentality, is felt by the "real team" and coaching staff that had (past tense) hopes of a NC. Morons have no place in college ball.
i am looking forward to the younger talent getting their opportunity and where ever that takes us. 

kvs

Oyster's picture

Klein was dismissed from the team last year too until everything was sorted out.  The Bogey Inn Gang had their schollies pulled for a time also.  Everyone wait until the official word is put out by OSU concerning the charges and what the actual punishments are for both of these guys.

oregonianbuckeye's picture

Somewhere in Florida a member of the media just got a chubby.

Poison nuts's picture

Several members...way more than chubby.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

tae1986's picture

Long day.... I wasn't ready for something worse than worst case scenario
 

Remind yourself, Nobody built like you, You designed yourself.

Northbrook's picture

I'd like to see a video of the team meeting this morning. 

Maestro's picture

He needs a taco.

vacuuming sucks

BuckNut51's picture

Dear God I needed that. Thank you!

BUCKI06's picture

Speechless...I am without speech.

"As long as we're keeping score, we're gonna try to win this thing." - UFM

Unky Buck's picture

Hello Pepper Brooks!

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DJRoss926's picture

Roby's charge doesn't sound nearly as bad. I'd expect him to miss a few games at most.

achillesx's picture

I just don't understand what these players are thinking. You have to believe that it has been explained to them multiple times over that a single bone-headded move can end their career...let alone cost them millions that they could have earned in the NFL. ESPECIALLY to inflict violence against women?! OBVIOUSLY that's a big one for Urban. I don't even know what to say. 
Obviously, this was Tressel's fault. (Only kidding...too soon? :))

FROMTHE18's picture

have to assume these idiots were drunk 

BTwrestle04's picture

Seriously.... WTF...

BierStube's picture

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

RBuck's picture

Stop the bleeding!

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

steensn's picture

ESPN front story in three, two, one...
But seriously... WOW. Hyde, we have "proven" backups in an offense that doesn't feature a true RB as the core talent... ok I can handle that. But now potentially our cornerstone lockdown CB in a defensive backfield with little proven backup? Yikes... that one really hurts.

awwwwwwop's picture

I couldn't agree more.  Hopefully the facts in his arrest can be reduced to something that doesn't effect the whole season for the rest of the guys who arent out making stupid decisions.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

steensn's picture

My guess it comes down to whether he gets charged or not. If he is charged with something more than a result of com service, that means they think he did something significant. I could see Roby's ending with a few games suspension (if it ends up being minor), If he get's more than comm service, I would expect a bigger punishment. Hitting women, you're out IMO.

BME_Buckeye's picture

Do you honestly expect this to not be the front story of ESPN. I wish fans would stop playing the ESPN victim card. Don't like it, don't watch their network or go to their site. After what's happened today, OSU deserves to be plastered all over ESPN and any other media sites. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Earle's picture

Ay, caramaba!

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Maestro's picture

Expectations altered.  What a waste.

vacuuming sucks

45OH4IO's picture

It seems like the Alpha Male competitive culture that Urban creates is a double edged sword. It leads to amazing on-field results, but these guys just can't turn it off during the off season!
I don't want the attitude/culture to change, but there has to be a positive outlet for the offseason or a system in place to keep these guys focused until the season starts. It can't keep happening. Every year is like deja vu and it just makes me sick to my stomach.

andyb's picture

Please don't say "Carlos Hyde punched a girl because Urban breeds a competitive culture"...don't be that guy...Carlos Hyde punched a girl because he has no respect for women and got a little too big for his britches it seems....Don't start dragging Urban through the mud on this because its the easy explanation and what Carlos did has no easy explanation.

Jugdish's picture

We don't know that Carlos punched the girl. Let each side and their witnesses tell their stories.

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

andyb's picture

Ok, weather he did or not he's been dismissed from the team so...Urban Obviously has reason to believe its true

GV9's picture

I thought he shoved her with his elbow and she fell down because of it? He's a strong guy needless to say and a lot of women aren't.  I've read different accounts. Let's wait for the facts before judging.  
Either way, this is a big blow to the team and this year's expectations, esp. with Roby involved too.  
At 2am no less!  There should be a 12am curfew for players perhaps.  Probably not possible but if only.... 
To those saying that the loss of Hyde isn't so bad, I disagree.  He was the reason we won a few of those close games and he was a beast in the win over Michigan.  You don't just fill in the next name and expect experience and production like that.  Not even close.... 
Damn.  

Unky Buck's picture

I thought he shoved her with his elbow and she fell down because of it?

I think you're confusing a false report with the the real one. There was one floating around about a girl getting hit in the face with an elbow, but it wasn't the right report. I just figured I'd help you out there.

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GV9's picture

No, I appreciate being corrected if I got it wrong.  Upvote given. A punch in the face is definitely a LOT more serious.  Thanks.  

45OH4IO's picture

I was thinking maybe hire an organization that calls all the players each Friday or Saturday night and just asks players what they are thinking of doing. Ask them if they have any concerns or worries about their weekend plans or friends. And remind them of all their blessings and that they don't want to do anything to ruin it. Something like that.
I say hire an organization because I think that would be too much of a load on the University or staff. But this can't keep happening every summer! I don't want to treat the athletes like prisoners or middle schoolers or anything, but something has to change!

BME_Buckeye's picture

Why do something like this when there are several loop holes to it.  Its really easy to lie to someone calling. 
Player Safety Inc: Good Evening _________. I was just checking in to see how your night was going and what are you are doing. Do you have an concerns about the plans you have tonight? 
Player: My night is fine. I'm just in my apartment with some friends playing some video games and eating pizza. Getting ready for bed soon. 
Player Safety Inc: Ok. Great to hear. Just remember its a honor to play football at your university. Thanks and have a good night. 
Player: Thanks. Take care.
Player to Friends: Fuck it. Who's ready to go to the bars and get wasted? 
Trust me, a player can easily lie to someone calling them. If you want to make sure a player is still in their quarters, it would be better to have someone check to make sure they are home but even then they can sneak out. Is it coming to the point where the players have to live on campus and can't live off campus since we have to effectively police their actions. Very sad. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

45OH4IO's picture

Yeah, it is sad. I don't think schools can go that far. I just feel that something should be added for PR reasons so that if/when this happens again, the program can shove this in the witch-hunters' faces and say "well, we are doing the best we can. We are being pro-active and engaging."
It may not make a difference, because logic and reason don't necessarily apply in the world of public relations and witch hunts. But they should do something more than wind sprints.

Jack Fu's picture

Hey Jugdish, how are Mohammed and Lonny doing over on your side of the party? You guys have lots to talk about?

Jugdish's picture

LOL...Thanks, I needed that.

Remember to get your wolverine spade or neutered. TBDBITL

Torpedo Vegas's picture

Also worth pointing out that respecting women is something Urban highlights as a "core value".
EDIT: Just to clarify, those are not ironic quotation marks.

Frankly Scarlet's picture

I would have to imagine that Roby will also be dismissed, if he hasn't been already. Like the Klein situation last year, each of them *could* potentially be reinstated, but based on the fact that they are SENIORS and should know better, I would just cut the cord and move forward rather than send mixed messages to my team.

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

SilverState's picture

Two very different situations from what we know about Roby's, at this point. I really doubt he would be dismissed.

Crimson's picture

Roby isn't a senior.

shadybuck's picture

This will be his 4th fall at ohio state

BME_Buckeye's picture

Roby is a red shirt junior that's been here for four years. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

Max Power's picture

Roby will not be dismissed. Maybe miss 3 games and some extra time with Mariotti. Getting intobit with a bar bouncer doesnt sound as bad as punching a female. Urban has a strict policy on violence against women a la storm klein. IMO roby will still play but el guapo is el gone-o...c!mon guys grow up...ensue media circus

osubuck57's picture

Nothing like getting hit in the gut, not once, but twice. Extremely disappointed in "choices" made by our Buckeyes. Hope Urban rules with an iron fist, and our younger Bucks LEARN from this!!

SCOTTC.

b_pbucksfans's picture

WTF are you doing in Indiana Roby!!!!

ATXbucknut's picture

As Jim Tressel used to say, nothing good happens after 10pm and nothing good EVER happens in Indiana.

GV9's picture

Good stuff still happens between 10pm - midnight.  It's after midnight where most of the problems kick in.  

buckeyedude's picture

Man, you got that shit right, ATXBUCKNUT! Especially in Who's Your Land!

 
 

bucks15's picture

If there is any Silver Lining to this news it is that:
1.  The running back depth is very good.  Smith has the ability to be just as good, if not better than Hyde (if he can hold on to the ball).  Also, Dunn and Ball emerged in the spring.
2.  Roby's charge is only a misdemeanor, I highly doubt he would be kicked off the team or suspended for the season for a misdemeanor.
Just hate to hear the Hyde news, not just from a football perspective either.  Had so much going for him and to blow it all away for one mistake is upsetting.  Not justifying him for what he did, he definitely got what he deserved, just hate to see him waste his talent potential NFL career.    

AcrossTheField11's picture

Can't these guys just mind their damned Ps & Qs?  National championship dreams slowly slipping away for all of the fans and esp teammates and coaches who have invested so much into this year.  
I'll bet this is what Urban's office looks like this morning.

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

Frankly Scarlet's picture

Well, that's what MY office looks like this morning...

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

chadwyck11's picture

Minding their pints and quarts is probably what got them to where they are.

AcrossTheField11's picture

You mean NOT minding them. 
If I'm a bartender in cbus, I'm secretly serving all important Ohio State athletes O'Douls and watered down Grocery Store 30 proof liquor.  

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

Cincinnati Mac's picture

Time to turn the internet and TV off until the end of August.

Northbrook's picture

The pool of team leaders for this season just shrunk.

Denny's picture

What about the team legends?
/ducks

Taquitos.

Northbrook's picture

Building the wrong type of legend but yeah, that was funny. We need that today.

BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

Maybe Hyde was mimicking Denard's spooning gesture and accidentally glanced the young lady with his elbow. 

Matt

BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

Oh have a sense of humor. Sorry I didn't use italics. 

Matt

sathey's picture

Way to put the team first you selfish punks! This generation of players are nothing but a bunch of whiny undisciplined thugs! Its somebody different every year! I'm done with college football! Memorabilia up for sale soon!

factor11's picture

Are you a troll?  The comments you have made over the past day have been plain ridiculous.

sathey's picture

Nope. Just a fed up Buckeye fan!

bhardy22132's picture

Fan? you are about to put your stuff up for sale and jump ship. LMAO

wendigo's picture

i would like to nominate this post as the worst in this article, and the poster as the worst poster over the past couple of days.

what a joke, but thanks for the laughs.

sathey's picture

Awwwwww! Is somebody butt hurt about my opinion? 

GoBucks713's picture

Why sell it? You should talk to Jason and donate it to Eat Too Brutus to help raise money for the charities we will be supporting this year?

-The Aristocrats!

sathey's picture

That's a great idea! Thank you for sharing!

GoBucks713's picture

Wow, really downvoted because I suggested someone helps a charity. That's some King Kong butthurt right there.  

-The Aristocrats!

SilverState's picture

Refraining from name-calling, overgeneralizing...good form.

RunEddieRun1983's picture

Officially, it's over.  Let's get ready for say... 2015??  I mean as long as we have Brax, we have opportunity...  But it's over.

I don't always downvote, but I do always downvote a Michigan fan trolling the Buckeye boards.

Northbrook's picture

Whoa brother! Over? Was it over when the Germans...

Jdadams01's picture

Naw. Roby will miss time (hard to say how much exactly without knowing all the details), but he will play this year. Hyde may be back pending what happens in his case. If he's not, Smith, Dunn, Ball, EzE, etc. will be fine.
And if worse comes to worst, we'll have title hopes in 2014, too.

GoBucks713's picture

I don't think we will have any issues with this year. Roby will be back and even without El Guapo, there is a stable of RBs that is unmatched in the B1G. This "sky is falling" attitude people have is not needed, especially since we don't know all of the details on the incident here in Columbus.

-The Aristocrats!

KingKosar's picture

Thanks for the level-headed comment, GoBucks.  Sometimes it's good to just sit back for a moment and take a breath before freaking out! lmao

BuckeyeVet's picture

@GOBUCKS713 - Great comments. The only thing I would add, is that I have not seen much on this thread in the way of concern for the young woman. We have no idea how badly she was hurt (if at all). I don't want OSU associated in any way shape or form with someone who strikes a woman. And if it's true, Hyde knew the rules, and he should be gone.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

kmp10's picture

Are you serious? C'mon... I am not, by the stretch of anyone's imagination, one of the "glass half full" crowd, but you're overreacting . It is not 'over'. Hyde is a good college football player, but he's certainly replaceable. Roby, a VERY good (if not yet great) college football player, is the tougher of the two to replace... but the talent (if not the experience just yet) is there. Did back to back undefeated seasons (if in fact these two POTENTIAL dopes are tried and convicted in an actual court of law as opposed to the court of public opinion) just become more difficult to accomplish? Yes. However, is it 'over'? No... not by a wide margin.

GoBucksToledo's picture

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
 
UPDATE: Sorry Northbrook, didn't notice that you went there first until after I posted.

Northbrook's picture

No problem but downvote troll may get pissed. Preemptive upvote.

GoBucksToledo's picture

Back attcha!
Just to put myself on record that, as I should, I will be upvoting any down votes that I feel are troll initiated and encourage others to follow suit.  I'm certain I will be down-voted for this by said troll, but he/they can only down vote once per post.

Unky Buck's picture

I did that on the other thread too. There was a downvote for every post regardless of whether it was positive, apathetic, or jumping off the fence for the first 30 or so posts. Like I said over there (and got downvoted for it, haha), the rule of thumb is on days like this and threads with this news, expect at least 1 downvote per post. Our community takes care of it for the most part, though, so that's a plus.

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GoBucks713's picture

Shit

-The Aristocrats!

ATT2121's picture

Just dumbfounded. The season hasn't even started and the team is imploding. Where were they during the days spent on life building skills and decision making?

 
 

"It all goes so fast, and character makes the difference when it's close."
Jesse Owens
 

kcbrez's picture

I wish that those who are commenting about national championship hopes and the football season had some perspective.

Buckeye80's picture

The first and only thing that came to my mind was the mom in "Step Brothers" standing in the yard, throwing her hands up screaming: "What the f@cking f#ck!"

Buckifan4Life's picture

"WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING OUT THERE!"

This is insane...

Bucks's picture

Well, this makes much more sense in regards to the all hands on deck this morning. I would not have enjoyed that team meeting. I'll be shocked if Roby is gone although a lengthy suspension wouldn't surprise me much.
 

avail31678's picture

The thing for me is....I especially liked Hyde because of his attitude change.  His attitude before was that he felt he wasn't getting the carries he deserved.  Then he changed, worked harder, and earned the starting spot and killed it on the field.  Now this...I just hate seeing a Buckeye I love and admire especially because of their character end up making such a bad choice (a-la JT).
 
I'm going to get downvoted into oblivion for this...but I'm not so sure how thrilled I am right now with Urban and the coaching staff.  We can only say so many times "it's the kid's bad choice."  But we have two SENIOR leaders - I mean possible captains - arrested/implicated in some mess within two days? 
I'm asking seriously - opinions wanted - at what point is the coaching staff to blame for not making the required behavior/culture abundantly clear?  Again, stuff happens, mistakes are made, but these are two team leaders!

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

I absolutely agree with you.  I think and hope the punishments handed out by the staff will be a better reflection of this.  

Evannati's picture

According to the Will Muschamps Responsibility Meter, Urban is still clean.  This is all on The Vest.
Seriously though, if you're Urban, a multi-millionaire who could any number of other things in life, you might just think, "WTF!  This isn't worth it."   

avail31678's picture

LOL - Will Muschamp Responsibility Meter.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

How do you know that the staff hasn't made the required behavior/culture abundantly clear?  A coach can preach until he's blue in the face about doing the right thing, and there will still be players who will mess up.  How about we hold the PLAYERS who make these mistakes accountable?  I'm so sick and tired of coaches and programs and such being blamed because an athlete did something stupid and got himself arrested. 
You can make something as abundantly clear as you want.  You know that if you murder someone, you can expect life in prison or the death penalty, and yet, murders still happen.  Why?  What are you supposed to do beyond making expected behavior clear?  The staff must make it clear what's expected of you.  Beyond that, what a player does is on him, and the responsibility of the coaching staff is to give the player an appropriate punishment for his actions. 

Class of 2010.

avail31678's picture

Right - that's what I'm asking.  I don't know what Urban and staff have done or said.  I'm not saying I blame them yet, but I am getting in the realm of "maybe they need to do something more/different."  Maybe - I don't know. 
 
I do agree and have always said that coaches simply cannot babysit these players 24-7.  I mean the math is obvious - 80-some kids, 24 hours, 7 days...  Nor is it their responsibility to be with these kids 24-7. 

4thandinches's picture

Trust me, you can preach, teach, have them sign paperwork, show them consequences if they do wrong, but humans are going to be humans. You can't control other people or their actions, only yourself. I hate when we blame coaches (superiors in general) for the actions of their people. It's individual responsibility. These two are seniors who know how to act. 

I wasn't born a Buckeye but I became one as fast as I could. 

rock flag and eagle's picture

 

“This is going to be my last year,” Roby said. “Everybody knows that. I feel like I am a senior. Hopefully they’ll let me do the senior traditions and things like that.”  Bradley Roby

I think one component of Roby's punishment should be an inability to take part in Senior traditions at OSU.  If I recall, he wanted special treatment as redshirt junior (4th year player) to take part in the traditions reserved for graduating seniors knowing full well this is his last year.  If he wants to be thought of as a senior, as a leader, as someone who deserves special treatment, I think he should have to come back next year and truly prove himself.  I don't think he deserves special treatment now.

cal3713's picture

Don't forget that this is only year 2.  Right now is when the staff's culture change opportunity is presenting itself.  Let's not forget what Tressel's final group of "team leaders" did.

Frankly Scarlet's picture

Obviously, NONE of this is good news. It reeks of poor character, bad decision-making, entitlement mentality, and a glaring lack of leadership.
If these two knuckleheads really are bad apples, this type of behavior would have eventually presented itself anyway. Better now than in November as far as the team goes.

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

tennbuckeye19's picture

Man. I could really use some good news right now. Somebody please change their icon or something...

avail31678's picture

or SOMETHING, right?  Thanks for the lil humor.  It helps.  a tiny bit.

Earle's picture

I'm thinking of getting a new fedora.

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Poison nuts's picture

Ahh, thanks Earle, one good laugh is worth a hundred right now...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Unky Buck's picture

Agreed. That put a smile on a relatively somber face today, lol.

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Young_Turk's picture

Shouldn't that discussion be its own forum?  

dr green's picture

Either I'm hallucinating from all the bad news or Unky Buck's avatar changed.

RedStorm45's picture

Three months after Simon leaves and this??
Hearing a third "bad news" case may still be coming.

UrbanCulture's picture

my friend CLAIMS that Roby was already let go from the team. I don't believe but figured I would report what I have heard.
 
edit: figured wrong :)

GoBucksToledo's picture

Bad things typically occur in 3s.  First Baugh, then El Guapo, hope the BR incident puts an end to it.

thePITman's picture

Roby should just say he's "no Tebow", "not going for the Miss America pageant", and "just 20-year old college kid." It'll smooth everything over, and all will be forgiven. Right, media? Just ask Manziel.

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oregonianbuckeye's picture

Twitter rumors of Vonn Bell getting caught for under age drinking as well. Obviously not in the same discussion as the other two, but still not good news.

steensn's picture

Def not, but again, he did this AFTER Baugh got caught? Not smart...

Colorado Johnny's picture

I'm tired of defending this team. What an absolute joke. How could you possibly blame the media for being bias?! Look what this program is doing!!!! I don't blame them one bit anymore. If I wasn't a fan I would be absolutely bashing this program too. Shameful. 100% pathetic

DeepSouthBuckeye's picture

I think its time for a "players only" meeting in the OSU locker room. Time to find out who the real leaders are. Time to find out if this team has the maturity to put adversity behind them and keep preparing for the season ahead. This team is far too talented to fold. Team chemistry often starts with adversity.

Loving all things Buckeye from SEC country in Alabama.
"How firm thy friendship....O-HI-O"

BME_Buckeye's picture

I love this comment. It would be a perfect time for Mewhort to step up and take command of the locker room. As the leader of the team overall, this would be a great time for him to show his leadership skills.+1

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

buckeyedude's picture

Mewhort and Braxton should get in their faces.

 
 

DefendYoungstown's picture

Dumb, dumb and  really DUMB...  How much of this can UFM take???

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

Poison nuts's picture

That's what I'm wondering & worried about too.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

These guys have let down their team, their friends, their coaches, their families, and the largest and best fan base in the land.  Incredibly disappointed in two players that should know by now what they represent.

cal3713's picture

Don't forget that these guys are potential first round NFL picks.  Hyde just cost himself some serious cash in addition to all the other social offenses.  

Jonnferrell's picture

I was going to comment.  Can't think of anything except, "When it rains, it pours." Stay out of the bars, boys.

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

Young_Turk's picture

Who was it that said, "Nothing good happens after ....".  Truer words were never spoken.  
The good news is that there is still a loaded team, of outstanding citizen/student/athletes that will represent The University and themselves with class, on Saturday was well as the other 6 days a week.  And those that won't/can't will self-identify themselves with moronic behavior like punching somebody (especially a girl), or assaulting somebody.  
 

BuckeyeVet's picture

I believe that was Jim Tressel who said that.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."          - Groucho Marx 
 

shadybuck's picture

Im pretty sure Ted Mosby (voiced by Bob Saget) said it too

BME_Buckeye's picture

When it rains in Columbus, it floods. No weather adversity at all. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

BeijingBucks's picture

If it's all true... chill honey bunnys!!  deep breath.  let the fallout hit... and let the next man step up if that's what it's gonna take.  I'm not giving up on this team this easily.

741's picture

I became a fan of Carlos and was confident in his ability to produce on the field this year, but damn, if Roby ends up being dismissed that is a greater loss to the team than losing Hyde - by far.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Okay, time for a team curfew. Offseason, on-season, whenever. You want to play for tOSU? You want the opportunity to turn your college years into a multi-million dollar NFL contract? You want a free education complete with room, board, tutors, recognition and privilege? Awesome, we got that for you. Only catch? Keep your ass home and focus on your craft. You want to be a regular college student? Cool. Fill out your FASFA, stand in line at the Bursar's office and drink all you want.
 

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

kdizzleduzit's picture

good luck getting recruits with that approach

sathey's picture

Get ready for the flood of down votes and criticism! I said the same thing and was piled onto like I was a scUM fan sitting on Block O! Received like 13 down votes in about 22.3 seconds! Lol

factor11's picture

No, just no.  You absolutely did not say the same thing.  Punks and thugs are not listed in the message you're replying to.  Neither is generalizing about an entire generation of players or giving up rooting for the Buckeyes.  

sathey's picture

Get your facts straight! I was referring to the one I posted in the other thread Sherlock Holmes!

wendigo's picture

Sathey:
yea but at this point who cares about keeping track of your asinine opinions?

awwwwwwop's picture

Sathey: you said

If I were Urban Meyer I would make it mandatory that my players do not leave their homes (apartment, dorm, house) unless its for football, family, or school! For the whole time they are at OSU! No exceptions!

That is not a curfew, that is prison.  While I do not agree with a curfew either, you certainly advocated something beyond what the OP stated.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

sathey's picture

I stand by my opinion!

Oyster's picture

Psst, Sathey.  Monks don't play football, neither do Nerds.  Good luck fielding a team with your rules.

sathey's picture

I would have a team to field! Yours would be in jail! 

Unky Buck's picture

Your opinion is garbage. That's the long and short of it. It's based on some ridiculous standards that you think need to be spread across an entire football team. It's completely unrealistic and off base. This is f**king college, man. You can't put these kids on house arrest because they're playing football for Ohio State. Get over yourself and this holier than though belief that you have. This is why you've been downloaded into oblivion over the last 2 days. At this rate, you'll be at -50 helmet stickers and unable to provide us with your ever so enlightening and reasonable perspective.

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sathey's picture

Never wished to meet somebody in person more than I do you! 

Unky Buck's picture

I'd tell you the same thing in person. 

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sathey's picture

Not saying you wouldn't! 

sathey's picture

And I didn't mean that in a violent way! Just wanna buy you a beer and settle our differences in opinion that's all! 

shamgod's picture

Are you threatening him? Dear god.

Oyster's picture

Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, Hey  Hey Hey,  Gooooooooodbye. 

Unky Buck's picture

While it may not be the quickest someone has been downvoted to hell or even the most helmet stickers lost, it took him less than 20 hours or so to go from nearly 200 to nearly -70.

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AcrossTheField11's picture

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

thePITman's picture

Well said. How do I "up-vote" something?! These players are handed EVERYTHING, getting paid THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of dollars, national TV and media attention, and privileges we'll never know. And they go take advantage of it and piss it away. I'll never understand.

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Brutus Forever's picture

close your eyes, rub two coins together, and say "i think i can" 10 times

"I learned to dislike Michigan at a very young age.” – Urban F. Meyer

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Oh really?
I thought kids came here to win Nat't Championships and play in the NFL?
You making a choice based on nightlife and partying? Go ahead and grab that other hat young man.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

AcrossTheField11's picture

Eh.  I disagree because you're looking at the situation through wise adult eyes.  These kids come to play for championships, but its also the experience as a whole.  Most 17-18 year old athletes look forward to partying and the whole social scene that goes along with college life to one degree or another.  And most can have some beers and not turn into total dunces... Unfortunately its not the case for everyone.  
I never was huge on drinking and partying that much as a college student.  As a matter of fact, I transferred from OU because that culture was actually annoying to me (among other reasons).  That being said, I'd probably not go to a college that enforced a curfew if there were other viable options available to me. 

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

My point is this; If you are serious about winning Championships and going to the NFL, then you should welcome a curfew. A curfew, a handler, hell an overlord for that matter.
The problem is not the children making the decision for these reasons, its the culture of permissibility that makes anything less somehow excusable and okay.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

smith5568's picture

What I think most fans are disappointed about is that these are two 4th year guys who are supposed to be team leaders. They aren't an incoming 17-18 year old freshman. They have seen what can happen, yet they decided to make poor choices. 

albinomosquito's picture

This is all Tressel's fault!!  

RedStorm45's picture

Can anyone confirm or deny the rumblings related to Vonn Bell?  Would be 4th in a week, right?

Earle's picture

Please make it stop!

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

MVJ's picture

This sucks for the rest of the team. Wind sprints in 5...4...3..2..1...

"You win with people "

Bamabucknut's picture

How to undo your future in just a few hours.You have just seen the lives of two men changed forever.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Are you fucking serious?!?!?!  Is it too much to ask that you maintain a bit of self control?!?!  Perhaps there is something to this concussion syndrome because that is the only reason I can think of that these guys continue to fuck things up like this!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Crimson's picture

WTF just happened?  WTF just happened?  WTF just happened?

rjsmitty's picture

We are not the Judge and Jury. I am as upset as everyone else but not one single one of us knows the true story of what happened with any of this. So before you start throwing out the "He got what he deserved" sayings lets just wait for the true story to come out.
Also, i guarantee every single poster on here drank under age...they just have way more to lose than we did. Urban has to get this crap straight ASAP.

Frankly Scarlet's picture

You may be correct about many of the posters drinking underage, but my guess is that it's a very small percentage who were arrested for brawling or showed up in a police report for allegedly assaulting a woman.

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

phxbuck's picture

Vonn Bell underage consumption is all over the Volnation message board, so this should be an even better week if this comes to fruition. 

steensn's picture

Never heard of someone getting in trouble by having a few drinks responsibly with friends and going to bed at 10-11PM. Might be a time for an attitude change on what risk people are willing to take...

thePITman's picture

There's no way to "responsibly" break the law.

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steensn's picture

I assumed that Roby and Hyde were over 21? Any of the freshman would not fall into that category... they would have broken the paw with that action to begin with. I am 100% against underage drinking BW, didn't have a drink till I was 25.

thePITman's picture

I thought we were talking about freshman Vonn Bell... I'm guessing he's not 21.

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BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

He wasn't suggesting breakingthe law. Both players are old enough to drink. 

Matt

wendigo's picture

sitting on your couch smoking dope and watching a movie is a responsible way to break the "law"

dubjayfootball90's picture

What the **** is wrong with people? Honestly, these kids have everything at their feet. Everything for the taking: Free Education, a spot on the best f***ing team in the country, set-up for life after football, A COACH WHO CARES, The possibility of the NFL, and they just do stupid shit. 
Just stop going to the bar. Just stop. STOP. If you go to the bar and they ask you to leave, you have probably been there too long and it is closing time, so JUST LEAVE! Why in the world would you put yourself in a situation to get arrested like that. YOU ARE STILL A FREAKING KID! You are still in school. Why!!!
Yea, yea, yea, college kids drink, I get it. But it is not hard to understand that you are a player for THE Ohio State Buckeyes, so the ability to control yourself, not get too drunk, and realize when to leave should be able to occur.
I hate hearing this kind of news. For us, for others, even for freaking scUM. These kids just don't freaking get it, man. Yea i played football, but it was at a D-III college. I did not have people on the interwebs following my every move.
I don't know, this is just stupid. STUPID! I was always told by my coach "Don't do anything to embarrass me (the coach), to embarrass yourself, or to embarrass your family, and you will be alright." 
This sucks man. By no stretch am I saying we are done with Hyde being dismissed. He had it all set up for him, and he decided to throw it away. If you do not think he decided to throw it away, you are wrong. There are runningbacks waiting in the wings to take advantage now, but the loss of Hyde is BIG and it just upsets me. He was the top dog, and maybe that was part of the reason he felt compelled that he could do and get away with anything and everything.
Who knows man. Damn the offseason, damn bad decisions, damn everything that hurts a team and players. DAMNIT!!! Football just needs to start NOW so this crap can end.
You can bet that Roby will not be allowed to wear the #1 anymore, that is for certain. If so, he is going to have to work his ass off to get it back. This sucks man. This just blows so much ass I gotta go wipe now. EFF IT!!!!
 
Sorry for the rant. And remember, this is just a rant, I do not know all the facts, it is just a quick, emotional response to what I have been hearing and seeing.
Also, who cares about the Royal Baby!!! It's not like I have never heard of a woman conceiving a baby through sex and giving birth in a hospital. DAMNIT!!!

Doc's picture

Exactly this!  Dubjay nailed.  Hyde I can live with, but fucking Roby.  WTF is he doing in Bloomington Indiana?!?!?!?  You know some one gave him some shit and he felt dissed or some other bat shit crazy lame ass excuse.  Stay at home you fucking morons!  I think Roby will be suspended for the first two games, and be back for the Cal game.  After that he'll be fine.  Hyde just pissed millions of dollars down the drain.  I hope it was worth the night on the town El Guano.
Sorry for the rant and the F bombs.

"Say my name."

jayt's picture

c'mon man....tell us how you really feel!

DJRoss926's picture

Love all of this.

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

You just written exactly how I feel. Well said.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

dubjayfootball90's picture

Ok, now that Hyde may be exonerated, I can look back at this now and be glad that Hyde may come out of this still able to be part of this team. I am not, however, retracting my overall message of 'Just be smart and stay away from bars late at night. Be SMART!'
Yea, it was an emotional response, and I highlighted that at the bottom, but now that things have come out, the situation now seems a lot clearer.

GoBucksToledo's picture

Well, didn't take long for the four letter network to pick this up:
http://espn.go.com/colleges/osu/index
 
 

tennbuckeye19's picture

FWIW: Everybody is reporting it now. As soon as the Dispatch released their story everyone (Yahoo, Fox, CBS, ESPN, etc.) jumped on it.

Colorado Johnny's picture

Good. OSU deserves it. Stop blaming the media

tdible2132's picture

It is truly heartbreaking to love Ohio State football.  This is beyond disappointing, and now the Vonn Bell news is about to come out too.  Could this last week have been any worse?  Baugh and Bell get in trouble for underage drinking, Hyde gets kicked off the team, and who knows what will happen with Roby now.  I'm honestly at a loss.  Something needs to change in a hurry.  It's sad that the school that I love and the football team that I love are on the verge of being buried alive.  OSU deserves better than to be known for having a messed up culture where football players are constantly in trouble. 

doodah_man's picture

Nothing good happens after midnight.... (thanks Mom)

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

iloveu2chris's picture

Well screw it back to bed

pjtobin's picture

Idk if this has been said yet, but in the words of the great Woody Hayes " nothing good happens after midnight. Please someone give me a hug. I just can't believe this. I am so shocked. And so sad. I'm sure these two are kicking their own butts. I know I've done wrong things in my life I regret. I couldn't imagine having a SO MANY ppl counting on me. Lets hope it gets cleaned up. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

dubjayfootball90's picture

You did not close the quotation, so I kept reading it like Woody Hayes was saying it, haha. I read: Please someone give me a hug, and thought to myself :Did Woody actually say that he wanted a hug?

gwalther's picture

Please someone give me a hug.

- Woody
#RareQuotes

Class of 2008

buckeyedude's picture

Yeah...I dunno...maybe it's just me thinking this, but I don't think Woody would be asking for hugs right now. I DO think he'd be kicking a couple kids in the ass though, for sure.

 
 

RedStorm45's picture

Fact: Roby was arrested.  Faces I believe up to a 6 month jail sentence (at least that's the max in Ohio).
Sounds like investigation is still on-going as it relates to Hyde, but obviously Urban knows enough to kick him off the team.  That's enough for me.

Boxley's picture

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"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

BenW's picture

He got arrested in Indiana though didn't he? I'm not sure if the penalties are different but they might be. 

Evansvillebuckeye's picture

An A Misdemeanor in Indiana carries a penalty of up to 1 year in jail.

OSU_ALUM_05's picture

I really don't understand how these things happen.  It is incredibly easy to make it through college without getting arrested or being a "person of interest" in a police investigation, yet our team can't do it.

RedStorm45's picture

<<Group Hug... :(>>

bhardy22132's picture

I see alot of people here are ready to call it a season already......... Real fannish IMO. Two blows but the Bucks will bounce back from it. You dont think this coaching staff will have these kids that need to step up now ready? Lets try to take a step back from the cliff please.

Colorado Johnny's picture

I haven't seen anyone calling it a season. 

OSUs12-OH's picture

Scroll up....I see several stating BS about 2014 and other BS?  Meaning is it next season already?  Insinuating this season is over before it even starts, which is preposterous.  

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

Bucks13's picture

Agree with original comment, everyone needs to step back from the ledge. Roby will most likely get probation and miss max 4 games. Hyde is still innocent until proven guilty and will most likely be reinstated if cleared much like Storm Klein. Relax people, all is not lost.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

There's bravado, and then there's just being unrealistic. 
If you're not worried about this from a team performance standpoint AT ALL, you aren't being realistic. 

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Bucks13's picture

Being unrealistic? Isn't equally unrealistic for everyone here to assume the team will not perform at a high level even without these two (if they do in fact remain removed from team/become suspended for X amount of games) without ever having seen an on field product?

bhardy22132's picture

you arent being realistic if you think that the sky is falling without a single game of this season being played yet. This is what you have backups for. They step up in times like this and do their part. Are they going to be perfect all season long? probably not but no better time than now to get that experience in.

Bucks13's picture

Agreed, upvote you if I could

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

I am a little confused though.
Carlos has NOT been arrested, but is off the team (hopefully, only until the facts are out and if in his favor, Klein'd). Roby has been arrested and is still currently a member of the team.
 

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

So not understanding something is down-vote worthy?
smh

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

RedStorm45's picture

A downvote troll or two is out in force, and apparently doesn't like it when you (or anyone) posts facts.  Sorry to see, but I'll throw you an upvote to off-set it.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

I'm sorry down-vote troll. I didn't mean to cross your bridge w/o paying the toll. How many helmet stickers can I give you to just go away?

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

steensn's picture

I don't think you took the time to read the facts. One happened in/around Columbus where OSU has a working relationship. The necessary info was likely passed quickly and Hyde talked to. The other happened in Indiana, Roby would just be getting back to OSU today if at all to sit down with the coached and find out what happened, while getting the legal info from Indiana. You simply cannot expect the timelines to line up at all and the ability or the coaches to speed up what needs investigation. The Roby thing just caught wind today, Hyde's incident has been making the rounds for the past day.
I think people are upset for not taking the time to logically think it through before making a pass at the coaching staff for how they have handled it. I didn't downvote you, but a simple assessment of more than what you posted would give you a VERY good reason why it has happened like it has.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

You have misunderstood the intent of my post. It's not a criticism of how the situations are being handled.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

steensn's picture

I then still don't get it, how can it not be a criticism? You are questioning why things are the way they are and the only one with that control is OSU head coach and AD.

brandonbauer87's picture

Hyde broke the cardinal rule of violence towards women. He's in the same boat as Klein, guilty until proven innocent. 

Fugelere's picture

Was wondering about that myself.  The person making (UFM I presume) these decisions obviously knows something we don't.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

I am actually hoping it is preemptive and just to keep the media hounds away until the facts come out. My point is that Roby has been charged, AND still on the team. This bodes well for Hyde in terms of the Klein situation.
 

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

RedStorm45's picture

It's a sign that Urban knows enough about Hyde and that situation to make his decision.  Roby was out in Indiana and it sounds like got into it with the bouncers.  Different than clocking a woman in the face, but likely a game or two suspension upcoming...that is if he avoids jail time, which would obviously be worse.

GV9's picture

Where does it say that he hit her in the face?  

tennbuckeye19's picture

The 2 incidents happened on different days. They are "still gathering facts" regarding Roby's arrest. I would expect to hear more about it in the not too distant future.

Idaho Helga's picture

I thought the same thing; 1 is charged and the other "a person of interest".  But we don't know the whole story.  I trust Urban investigated enough to make the decision he did on Carlos.  I would think he or his position coach would have spoken with him.  I'm sure we'll hear about Roby soon.
Does anyone know if Roby was at the meeting this am?
 

O-H-I-Owe-U's picture

So much for senior leadership. Some of the younger guys better step up and set things straight. Mr. Miller, the floor is yours.

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3technique's picture

It's all my fault guys!!! I was on vacation and all hell broke loose... It really hurts losing talented players but there is talent in the wings.. Maybe Urban can make them sign a contract or something.. Honestly, I have no answers...

OSUs12-OH's picture

I'm really not sure why some above are saying 2014 or insinuating that this season over already?  This all may pass over and both are reinstated or what ever.  Look at Storm Klein's situation....he got reinstated.  To say the 2013 season is over because of a RB (which OSU has tons) and a CB who is very good but there's also many more of those too.  This isn't OU...it's Ohio State folks.  Chill, we'll be fine!  

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

Bucks13's picture

Finally, reason emerges. Kudos for a level head!

jvd253's picture

I don't get it either.   Roby seriously contemplated leaving for the NFL draft.   I doubt we would have been this apoplectic about the 2013 season if he had.    I'm also excited to see what Smith, Dunn, Bell, and EzE can do if given the opportunity.  

"A guy from Ohio can make it in life if he works hard enough." - Wayne Woodrow Hayes

Bucks13's picture

Agreed. I would love to have both back as they are good players and up until this point had spotless images, but there is some young and hungry talent ready to prove themselves and now they may get the chance.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Exactly - and, besides, the hysterical responses don't seem logical to me.
Let's assume that this recent string of incidents follows one of two patterns:

  1. Random: cfb programs will typically have a certain number (range) of incidents during the summer months; 3-4 incidents in relatively rapid succession seems like a non-random pattern, but is not necessarily so - random occurrences often happen in bunches - and is not "statistically significant."
  2. Not random - evidence of downward spiral in the locker room (which seems to be the preusumption in here today): okay, but if that's the case, wouldn't it actually bode better for the 2013 season to have a big ugly wake up call now and maybe a serious morale "house cleaning," rather than if the locker room problems had been allowed to fly under the radar and thus fester well into the season? 
cajunbuckeye's picture

I can't get excited over it and I won't throw stones. I've been in a few "scrapes" over the years and spent some time in the"cross bar hotel." You hope these guys are making good decisions, but in the end, some will not. It's very disappointing, because I've been a big supporter of Carlos Hyde. The sky isn't falling and the program is not in shambles. The Buckeyes are loaded with talent and they're ready to step up when they get the call. It's a long way to the ground when you fall of your "high horse". The reality of that should be settling in with Mr. Hyde and Mr. Roby. Everything to lose and nothing to gain by being a tough guy and putting yourslf in those situations.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

buckguyfan1's picture

Early playing time may be the best recruiting line used... Still have faith that this will be a special season. 

brandonbauer87's picture

I promise, as the leader of the Rod Smith fan club, I did not arrange this. 

stechs02's picture

Can’t blame anyone but the kids for this. It makes you wonder… Is OSU to big to not have stuff like this happen? Think about it… You have 60,000 students attending the university, 30 bars within walking distance, a vibrant night life downtown and in the short north and so on. All that on top of being dead smack in the middle of a 2,000,000+ city. Most schools are in small towns and don’t have access to nightlife like OSU does. It’s not an excuse as I had access to it when I attended OSU and didn’t do anything stupid like this, but exposure to it can’t help. Sad sad day!
As I think about it, I think this kind of stuff happens every year, it’s just being blown up because it’s two of our best players. I think what really hurts is they were supposed to be leaders this year. No worries at RB for me, but losing Brad Roby would really make me worry about the defense this year. He was going to be the rock. All is not lost guys!

OSUNeedles's picture

I'm going to right on ahead and remember that I still have a job, friends, & a family (none of whom were arrested this weekend) & that my life continues on. After the Tatgate shenanigans I decided to still be a fan, but not to tie too much of my identity (& happiness) to a football team that I have no control over. I hope that all these guys pull themselves together and have success in their future...

Now, if you will excuse me, I am going to go kick some stacks of junk around my basement...

Maestro's picture

I am leaning this way as I get older.

vacuuming sucks

Frankly Scarlet's picture

Well said. As I tell my scUM-alumni in-laws and neighbor, "It's not life and death...but it's close". 

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

brylee's picture

Kids...  Both of these kids just cost themselves millions $.  Even if they go on to play in the NFL, no way they get high draft dollars.  One would think that would be incentive enough to stay out of trouble.

awwwwwwop's picture

There is no way Roby's arrest for misdemeanor battery costs him millions if he plays well.  A misdemeanor assault on a bouncer is not going to change his draft position unless there is more to this story than punching a bouncer.

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brylee's picture

meant to say, if roby also gets dismissed, then he will have also cost himself the bank.

awwwwwwop's picture

very true.

"Who cares? Go Bucks." - Aaron Untch

BuckeyeChief's picture

I am not going to claim the sky is falling; let's see what happens.
Guys, girls, young people all over, please get your sh*t together and stop blowing golden opportunities, PLEASE, please, please.

 

"Clutch has no boundaries"

TheShookster's picture

Rumors of the demise of OSU's national title hopes have been greatly exaggerated...
I am going to chalk up the freak-outs to PTSD...since in the past when a superstar went down we were literally screwed. Now we have some actual depth, so as your parents told you when you were young and scraped your knee...it's going to be okay.
If these guys want to throw everything away, so be it. 

Earle's picture

And now there is a banner on 11W that says "Click to View Your Arrest Record Now".
You're good, internet.

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

rekrul's picture

Roby's initial hearing is here in 30 minutes so hopefully we will get some clarification on that.  
We accuse others of jumping the gun on tOSU but it appears allot of others that may have pointed that finger should be doing so in the mirror.
Storm's situation sounded so much worse and look how that turned out.  If Hyde is at fault then that sucks and I wish he would have used his head and better judgment, but at least we have depth and the girl seems fine, but until then I will refrain.
I do not see Roby getting more than a few games, worst case scenario.  
Vonn Bell, Open Container/UA drinking.  Probably working along side of Baugh for Community Service.  Worst case...  
Do all of these look bad?  Hell yes they do but in no way shape or form are these as bad as everyone is making it seem, it is if Hyde did hit the girl, Roby is out for the year and Vonn Bell is told to go elsewhere for school.  If these were strung out over a 5 month period it probably would not be as bad, bad but not as bad.
 
BREATH!!!

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!

harp35's picture

Was All Excited To Yell El Guapo Every Time He Scored, Shit Sucks.

Michael's picture

This is the biggest disappointment. Was really hoping to see if the nickname could penetrate national media.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

To those whom much is given, much is expected.

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pcuzz1's picture

I understand these arrests are embarrassing and unacceptable. However, look at the depth at rb, and the great reviews someone like eli apple has received, don't forget we have one of the best coaches in the game. Our title hopes will still be there. With that said I am not trying to undermine the importance of these arrests.

pat cozzens

nickma71's picture

Disappointed? Yep. Now that the pleasantry is out of the way, see ya. Think a little harder before you act.

Brutus's picture

This will be an unpopular opinion, but I believe there is a causal relationship between Meyer and his players getting arrested at a relatively high rate.  I criticized him at Florida for this and I have to criticize him for it now.  I don't know what it is, but there is something missing from his system which allows players to take certain liberties.  Maybe they think the repercussions for certain transgressions (underage drinking, fighting) aren't too great so they push the boundaries thinking it's ok to go into a bar or whatever, and before you know it, the situation has escalated and they end up doing something much worse.  Maybe if Hyde and Roby were just concerned about even being in a bar late at night because it meant trouble from the coaching staff, they would have avoided it altogether and not be in this mess right now.  Whatever the case, I think Meyer's arrest rate is statistically significant.  It doesn't matter whether he recruited the player or not.  Something is going on in his system which allows stuff like this to happen.  I don't pretend to have a solution.  Just disappointed that, especially this close to the start of the season, he doesn't have a better handle on things.

tennbuckeye19's picture

I'm not discounting the number of players arrested on Meyer's teams, but you do realize players get arrested from just about every team in the country regardless of the coach.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

They probably have some connection to Urban.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Brutus's picture

Yes, I completely understand. Meyer just happened to be the coach of two high profile programs so his arrests are going to make news.  It just seems to me that he has a higher number of arrests than other coaches in other big programs, or at least we hear about it a lot more with him.  I didn't mind it at Florida because they were the enemy.  I mind it now.  I could be completely wrong about this idea that it's statistically significant.  I'm sure someone will run some numbers at some point and hopefully prove me wrong.  I don't like having the above opinion.  Nevertheless, that's how I feel right now.

Bucks13's picture

Out of a hundred total players (schollie and non-schollie) 4 incidents (3 confirmed) would prob be lower than the average arrests for the general population just saying.

hit_the_couch's picture

You're confused. I can name 15 teams that had more arrests than Urban's Gators. Hell, Tress had 30 guys in 7 or 8 years get arrested. It happens, and is usually minor stuff. Get over it.

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SC Buckeye's picture

As much as I hate lectures, I think that Coach Meyer needs to bring in a Buckeye great to talk to and remind these boys that they represent something more than just a football team that gets together 12-14 times a year to play a game.  Granted, for some, this message will go in one ear and out the next.  But, hopefully, someone will take it to heart and few leaders of this team will emerge.  Right now, from my viewpoint as a fan outside of the loop, this team doesn't look like there are any leaders or the things that happened this weekend would have been prevented after the Baugh incident.

SC Buckeye's picture

To the person that down voted me, what about what I wrote do you feel is worthy of your down vote?  Not trying to be an ass/troll, just curious.

albinomosquito's picture

there's some turd burglar trolling the articles and downvoting everything regardless of content...

GoBucks713's picture

I got downvoted for suggesting someone that said they were going to sell their memorabilia actually donate it to Eat Too Brutus's raffles.

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3GB's picture

Smith, Dunn, Ball, Elliott, Wilson, Hall, Brown and Braxton are all ballcarriers that will fill the void.
Roby will probably miss 4-6 games (optimistic), which will give the crazy-deep incoming class of defensive backs plenty of chances (we'll see on Bell) to get their feet wet and put Grant/Reeves/Powell and others some time in the pressure positions.
We'll find out who the grown-ass men are.

Mizzillion's picture

4-6 games, optimistic?  Wow, I was thinking he would miss at most 2 games. Probably one.  As far as I know, he's not a repeat offender.  Though extremely bad judgment, it is still only a misdemeanor.  Mewhort and Stoney were charged with misdemeanors last year and I don't think they missed any games. If they did, it was one at most.
 
 

andyb's picture

Stoney and Mewhort missed 0 games last year...they ran a lot and paid their own tuition throughout the summer though...but they were back by fall camp.
 
they also got busted in Early June...not end of July so...I don't know..getting arrested for fighting with a bouncer is worlds different from allegedly knocking a girl unconscious and then fleeing the scene.

3GB's picture

Now that the full release of the incident is public knowledge, I agree with you that it's in the 1-3 games range (as others have said it might have to be worse just due to timing).  When it was paired with Hyde's story, the severity got amplified maybe more than it would have otherwise (it's still not good).  

JBuckeye's picture

All the sky is falling stuff posted in these past couple threads is really sickening.  I would think that one thing everyone should have learned after the whole tatgate thing went down is that OSU and OSU football specifically is bigger than any one person or event.  
That imaginary crystal football trophy you were imagining is still just as imaginary as it was this past Friday before you whole world collapsed because a couple college age kids decided to be stupid college age kids. Nothing changed with regards to that because it was just a figment of your imagination to begin with.  
Just my opinion, but if your really broken up about this you need to take a step back and really think about things.  The world still turns, the sun came up and it will do the same tomorrow. If your day is ruined by this then maybe you are too close and should seek some therapy for it. 
These kids will be dealt with as is appropriate by the staff once all the FACTS are known, that is why we pay the staff. There are still going to be 100 plus guys come Aug 31st that are happy to don the Scarlet and Gray represent the best damn university and it's fans and alumni.
They will play their asses off to try and make your imaginary crystal football a reality for you, and represent the team and the university well in their actions on and off the field.  This day will be a long forgotten memory for you come August 31st when your pumped to see those who are willing to do what it takes to represent the university charge down the tunnel and out onto the storied field at the 'Shoe.

steensn's picture

Will OSU come through this, yes. But the tategate DID effect the following season which WAS slatted as a NC run team. Instead, we saw one of the worst teams in recent years and a losing record. Though this will not turn OSU into UM circa 2007-2012, it can and might impact our ability to make what looks like another NC run this upcoming year. That is a major hope for us, and it would suck for that to be squashed through incidents like this before it starts. I wouldn't downplay this...

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Two completely different situations. Tatgate resulted in the loss of a top 5 coach, a heisman candidate at QB, the teams best RB, and the teams best WR.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

steensn's picture

Yes, but the impact of losing a starting RB and our best nationally acclaimed DB does impact level of our team. I never said we will end up 6-7, rather I said it would have an impact on a NC run. Losing some of your key cornerstones on the team for a NC run absolutely has an effect. Roby is THAT good of a player and right now we don't have someone with his skillset and experience combination to step in. To say we'll be fine IMO doesn't take into account the fact that the teams we would likely face up are stacked from years of great recruiting and talent stocking. While 6-7 season is not likely, a1-2 loss season and no NC would be disappointing. I believe Roby would be a key component to a NC run.

onetwentyeight's picture

C'mon "the fact that the teams we would likely face up are stacked from years of great recruiting and talent stocking" REALLY? What teams in the B1G fit this description? What stud future NFL QBs leading HIGH FLYING AERIAL ATTACKS in the B1G will Torch our newly vulnerable secondary? PLEASE. 
At most we'd have to face ONE team like this, in the Championship game. 
Also, you're overvaluing how much one guy in the secondary influences an entire defense. Even in the NFL, the impact of so called "shutdown corners" has dwindled. Today its all about your coaching, schemes, and making sure everyone is disciplined and on the same page. We can still have that, Roby or not. 
 
Hyde was a tough player but SO expendable. If you think losing a between the tackles short yardage RB is the end of the world IDK what to tell you other than that his type is the most expendable of all offensive skill players and that we've recruited GREAT on RB talent lately, thanks to Urban. It's not like we lost a true game-changing talent like BRAX alright? 
 
KEEP CALM AND TRUST URBAN MEYER. We'll be fine. 

steensn's picture

I'm calm, and I am calmly assessing that losing key players will have in impact on our team. I a not stuck in denial or despair, I am accepting of the fact that this doesn't help our chances and stating "we'll be just fine" is an over reaction in the other direction. I'm firmly planted in between both camps of "We're going to get crushed by the weight of failure," and "Ain't no thang but a chicken wing." It WILL have an impact on our team, and we DON'T know what it will be. But it WON'T be a positive impact in any case, it just might not be as bad as it could be.

OSUs12-OH's picture

You may also want to stay calm with your assessments considering they both may be on the team by week four IMO if all is cleared.  I'm not saying it will be but it sure will make this "impact" you proclaim to be calm about, into a whole lot of nothing.  
And I actually do think OSU will be fine.  Hyde is a tough back....but OSU has 2 more just like him and two others who are WAY faster.  Now let's look at CBs.  Grant, Reeves, Apple and a host of others will be fine.  To me, you're stating by saying "we're going to be fine" as an overreaction in the opposite direction is by far a misconception that needs addressed.  Which was why I did...stop the madness plz.  It may turn into a bunch of nothing...meaning Hyde reinstated by game one or even the end of August if charges are dropped.  Now if the charges aren't dropped and it goes to trial then that could be different and bye bye El Guapo. Secondly, I could see Roby missing two Non-conference games for his indiscretions.  SO are these still that much of an "impact" or do you still not see why MANY are saying "we'll be fine?"  

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steensn's picture

"Could be reinstated," sure I totally agree. But that could is a lot less likely for Hyde than Roby. Meyer takes a "guilty until proven innocent" approach to hitting women which puts Hyde at a "prove it didn't happen" disadvantage. I believe that wouldn't have made much of a difference given we are not a star RB focused offense. Roby on the other hand could very well only miss a handful of games, but again my point was only that it WILL make a difference, and saying it WILL be just fine and anyone who disagrees disappoints "me" is also assuming things they don't know. The tone of the original post was that "I'm disappointed" in anyone believing there will be any impact, we will be fine so don't worry. Someone THINKING we will be just fine is one thing, I didn't respond to any of those. I did respond, without condemnation, stating that it very likely could and here is an example.

JBuckeye's picture

Your missing the point though. At this point not a single game has been played, so national championship hopes are just that...hopes.  The large sample size of 100 plus years of college football tells us that in a perfect world it's already next to impossible to be perfect and make it to the national championship game.  
So in my opinion while it's nice to hope for that, to believe it's going to happen is delusional and to think that a couple kids getting kicked off the team sunk the whole year of football is even more delusional. In the end we're all fans and we should all root for those that are doing what they need to do to don the Scarlet and Gray and leave the mamby-pamby sky is falling stuff to State Penn fans. 

steensn's picture

Clearly I can tell the difference between hope and "believe it is going to happen." That is a red herring to my point which is clearly, losing guys like Hyde and Roby impact overall team quality and reduce our teams ability to win games. Will it end up showing a glaring weakness in our secondary without Roby and we will get beat in the air? We don't know and I am not choosing to believe that. Will it show that we have guys who are the next Shawn Springs who will be even better than Roby? We don't know and I am not choosing to believe that either.
What I am choosing to state and believe is that it is one step further away from having a better team than what we had prior to these incidents and does lead to a quality impact on the team. It's no "the sky is falling" attitude to state that it can and will have AN impact, that is just common sense.
The reasons why preseason hopefuls fall out of NC competition is because of exact things like this happening. Key players falling to injury, getting kicked off team, replacement talent not being good enough to fill key positions, bad luck, etc. This creates just one more hurdle for us to cross.

OSUs12-OH's picture

These are key players that may not miss the entire year....that's what common sense tells me.

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

steensn's picture

But a single season is NOT bigger than a few players, that was my only point I have made.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Steensn: sure, but the 2012 team was "one of the worst in recent years" partly because the defense and OL were mediocre by Ohio State's standards. If TP and the other tat-gate casualties had played the entire season, maybe they go 9-3 or something, but obviously that was never really a legit "NC run team," right?

steensn's picture

But a single season is NOT bigger than a few players, that was my only point I have made.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Steensn: fair enough, but my point was that the 2012 team had a range of weaknesses, several of which weren't revealed until that team was in the line-of-fire.
Whereas we'll have to wait and see with the 2013 team. I would never downplay the loss of Hyde for the entire 2013 - if that ends up being the case - right now, in July 2013, but who knows how we'll view these events in February 2014. For all we know, Hyde could have stayed eligible and healthy for this season, and one of the other RBs still would have ripped the starting job from him, anyway, because he became better than Hyde.
I'm neither ready to downplay the unfortunate events of today, nor go into panic mode and/or assume that they will have devastating consequences for the 2013 team.

steensn's picture

I'm neither ready to downplay the unfortunate events of today, nor go into panic mode and/or assume that they will have devastating consequences for the 2013 team.

That was my only point, I was trying to bring parity to the idea that OSU is not at all above a few players. In fact, a few players can be the difference between a NC run and winning season as seen in the past (because not every team is complete, a few choice players will equate to losses).
For example, if we all pretty much admitted that losing Braxton we go from a NC contender to a 2-3 loss team. I don't know why we wouldn't consider the los of Roby (potentially) as at least impactful.

JBuckeye's picture

Again your making the assumption that this is a NC caliber team as it was, so that is the only thing that makes your argument hold water. That is a great example of Scarlet and Gray colored glasses.  Ask USC how that turned out for them last year.
This is the pre-season and a game hasn't been played, so we don't know the outcome of the season before a game is played. We also don't know that we will or won't be fine if we lost any one player up to and including Braxton. Last year when Braxton went down, everyone who's becoming suicidal in these threads today chalked it up as a loss before the game was finished.  People left early, turned off the TV, gave up, whatever. We all know how that turned out, and this season has the chance to be the exact same as that game.
Your argument is that it will have an effect, and my argument is that if we do go 9-3 of 12-0 without them, we don't know that we were going to go 9-3 or 12-0 with these players either. We have to play each game and take it one game at a time. Acting like the sky is falling is pointless and hopeless and futile.
 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Great comment. Let's see how the team responds and gets its collective ass together. If the team is incapable of responding positively to the Urbz/Marotti "tough love" shit-storm that they probably got hit with this morning, then they probably didn't have the right stuff to make a big run this year, anyway.

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

What the FUCK, Roby too!?!?!?  What is wrong with you guys?  Full ride scholarship to the greatest university in the land, futures making big bucks in the NFL, and you're going to piss it away to hit someone in a bar.  Hyde for sure pissed it away.  Not sure what becomes of Roby yet...he may not get booted unless we find out his assault victim was also a female.  Major UGH.  Come on guys. 

Class of 2010.

buckeyeEddie27's picture

Just once in a year with serious NC aspirations I'd like to see the team not shit the bed.  

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Breaking the law is breaking the law. You do it you gotta pay the piper, football player or not. I do not condone hitting a woman or assaulting anyone whatsoever. Period. That should always be the biggest concern. The victims lives should always be taken into consideration.
No doubt Meyer, because of the recent scrutiny (Hernandez, Tatgate), will have to set an example (he shouldn't have to but ESPN will eviscerate him if he doesnt). Hyde could be done for good. Roby could be too, though I think a significant suspension is more likely what happens with him (that might be more wishful thinking however).
Roby's loss will affect the hell out of the defense. If you read any of Ross' defensive breakdowns Roby's leverage skills are the glue that keeps that defense together, at least it did last year. It's comforting having a shutdown corner.
We got enough RBs.
NOT calling it a season. But you'd have to be dumb to think this won't hurt, especially during a close game and especially when it's a game where our secondary gets torched or we can't contain anymore or we fail to get that 1 yard that a big bruising RB could've gotten on a 4th and 1.
I hate the offseason
I hate the media.
I hate TTUN

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Buckifan4Life's picture

I will never understand why an athlete on the cusp of possibly being a first round draft pick in the NFL would jeopardize that for anything. Forget these women on campus (there will be plenty more when you have millions of $ in the bank to choose from) and all the risky partying and criminal behavior. Keep your nose clean and work hard. If you are lucky enough to have the talent to possibly play professional sports, why try and screw that up? WHY, WHY, WHY...

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Jeremiah ‏@SYRmotsag  4m 
FWIW I am hearing from my source 2 Freshman players will be meeting with Urban in the AM. One for Minor in Possession and one Open Container

 
Good grief

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Northbrook's picture

IF this is true and IF either were with an upperclassmen, I want that upperclassmen gone.

Boomcat's picture

Hmmm.... I guess the players all got together and said, " Hey! Lets all go out and go bananas!" Seems like the only logical way that all these players could be involved in stuff all at the same time.

ATXbucknut's picture

ESPN's take (nothing shocking)...

Bucks13's picture

I shouldnt have even watched. Leading rusher? No, see braxton. Stepped in for jordan hall? No. and that was the first 30 seconds before I was too disugusted to continue watching

awwwwwwop's picture

So leading running back and not leading rusher, a minor error. And yes, Hall was the starter last season before he tore his foot.

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tennbuckeye19's picture

Palmer's take actually was pretty positive in the clip. 

Bucks13's picture

Youre right, I guess I should have finished watching.

Poison nuts's picture

Palmer's take was as positive as it gets. Nothing wrong with that story at all.

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

OSUs12-OH's picture

And soon the Matt Hayes's out there will have their articles out about how Urban's losing control of OSU players and ON AND ON AND ON!  I'm starting to wonder if they've polluted the minds on many of our own fan base here based on replies and comments I've seen.  Fido and Cajun are spot on above.
This isn't FL...it's OSU.  Stop the madness or it will never stop ppl.  It's sad to see our own fan base perpetuating this stuff.  Sad to me indeed:-(

"I want a hungry team. I want a team that can't wait to get out there. I want an angry team! You're the Ohio State Buckeyes. You're an angry football team. You're a hungry football team and I'm proud to be your coach." UFM

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I agree - there must be some kind of happy medium between blind homerism, excessive rationalizations, and plugging one's ears/eyes on the one hand, and us internalizing, buying into, and unconsciously helping to proliferate the Twitter-fuelled manufactured, incestuous media narratives on the other hand.
At this point, my advice to people is to "unplug" from the hype-machines - by all means, use espn and other media programming, but don't be used (or played or manipulated) by it. 
Days like today suck, but not because what Matt Hayes or some espn hack will say about it, for crying out loud - Who gives a shit what they say?

LadyBuck's picture

This is surprisingly positive for ESPN...

buckeyedude's picture

I really don't know how any Buckeye fan could watch that video of Carlos and think, "it's no big deal to lose El Guapo."
He has great vision and patience while waiting for plays to develop that none of the others have, IMHO.

 
 

FROMTHE18's picture

I think Roby's misdemeanor will net him a couple games...as for those freshman, expect hell to pay after Baugh's issue.

TheBadOwl's picture

I bet he pleas no contest and gets community service. He'll miss the first two or three games. I hope he's back for the Cal game but I don't see it happening.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

cinserious's picture

I'm waiting to wake up any time now because this can't be real life. We almost made it to preseason camp without a hitch.

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

Hovenaut's picture

What a damn shame, and I direct that at Hyde (and to a lesser extent, Roby).

I'm honestly not worried about the team, next men up. That's not to say I wouldn't want to have two of our more important starters remain without incident, but well, here we are.

Still a pretty f'n good team there, always a fan no matter what.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

German Buckeye's picture

I've managed to go my whole life without being arrested or got drunk and smacked a woman.  It was REALLY HARD. Wait. No. IT ISN'T HARD AT ALL.

Bucks13's picture

Sorry man, some of us are human and make mistakes.

OldColumbusTown's picture

Don't understand this - a "mistake" is not hitting a woman.  A "mistake" is not punching a bouncer after trying to start a fight and getting thrown out of the bar to begin with.
Those are things an individual can easily control.  All the facts have not come out yet, but what German is saying has nothing to do with making mistakes or not.  These are extremely bad decisions, not "mistakes."

Bucks13's picture

Lets just be clear. I did not condone hitting a woman (allegedly), but as someone who has had a few drinks before reaching 21 and been in a few scuffles I will not throw stones.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I have no idea what happened in this Roby case. Back in my bar-hopping days, though, I did run into quite a lot of wannabe tough guy bouncers with chips-on-their-shoulders. Back then, the bouncers all seemed to be on 'roids, so I rarely felt like I had the pugilistic skills to take them on. Otherwise, you better believe I would have stood my ground against a few of the worst a-hole bounders I had the misfortune of encountering.
Also, we might keep in mind that it's not unheard of for kids with dreadlocks (for one example, if you get where I am going with this) to be denied entry, or asked to leave, "private" clubs in certain places/districts, for no other reason than they don't have the right look. In some clubs, for example, there will be a dress code that is inconsistently applied. I have no idea if anything like that applies to this case, but I will suspend judgment until I have more of the facts.     
[edit: oops, I should have read further down in this thread . . .  more info on Roby's case].

pddally's picture

I think Urban knows something that we don't about the Roby case,because he hasn't dismissed him,just suspended.A bar in Indiana could be a hard place to get along if you are a Buckeye, just sayin

pddally

ArizonaBuckeye's picture

Hitting a woman is not a mistake, it's a fucking disgrace. And if it turns out to be absolutely true, which is what it appears to be, Mr. Hyde deserves absolutely everything he has coming to him!

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." -Woody Hayes-

Boomcat's picture

I agree with the people saying we need to step back and take a level-headed approach to this. Yes this hurts right now, but lets not all just pee on the fire and call the dogs. 

SilverState's picture
Northbrook's picture

Okay maybe that is what happened and maybe not.

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"I learned to dislike Michigan at a very young age.” – Urban F. Meyer

Brutus Forever's picture

lol

"I learned to dislike Michigan at a very young age.” – Urban F. Meyer

OSUnathen's picture

Worst part for Carlos isn't the possible jail time or the public humiliation but the feeling he will get when his FORMER teammates rush the field as they win the BCS National Title game. He will have to live with that void for the rest of his life. 

TheBadOwl's picture

The worst part of the whole story here is that the girl (allegedly) got punched in the face.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

BuckI_1033's picture

Oh no, I feel so bad for him.  

"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field." 

TheBadOwl's picture

Rumors now of Timothy Gardner being in trouble with Vonn Bell. And apparently he's been in the doghouse since he came in.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

Northbrook's picture

I wonder if he came in out of shape.

wibuckeye's picture

Vonn Bell?

WIBUCKEYE

onetwentyeight's picture

HOLY crap people everyone needs to CALM THE F*** DOWN. 
 
Ask yourself this: if news broke today that Nick Saban dismissed two players off his team, even two relatively "prominent" ones, would there be this level of panic and sky-is-falling-ness? NO. Because people (bama fans, other fans, the media) trust Saban to run his system and have pieces in place to replace the departed. Well guess what. URBAN IS THE SAME WAY. CHILL OUT. 
WE ARE FINE. As much as we all loved Hyde's BRUISING style in the end he was the most expendable of all offensive skill players: the between the tackles RB. His kind is slowly becoming obsolete, and its not like he was some sort of game-breaking BURNER. Ask yourself, if the OLine is opening up massive holes, does it really matter which 4/5 Star recruit we have toting the rock through said holes? 
Roby ... eh. If dismissed, this will hurt a bit more. But honestly, when was the last time any college defense's ability was significantly hurt or helped by ONE secondary player? Even in the NFL these days the ability of one corner to influence the game has waned (See recent grantland piece on shutdown corners dwindling). In college this is even more apparent. As long as our coaching staff remains constant (yes) I fail to see any QBs in the mighty B1G who can really exploit our slightly weaker secondary. Not exactly a murderer's row of AERIAL ASSAULTS on our schedule. 

BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

You have no clue what you're talking about regarding Roby. I'm not being rude, but that much is true. Go back to one of Ross' explanations on the defensive X and O's.  Having a shut down corner that is consistent in man coverage allows the defense to completely changes its identity.  Any time that Roby misses will be felt severely by the defense. Even if another player steps in for him and performs at his level, which is absurd to think will happen, the opportunity cost of not having him on the field will be drastic. 

Matt

Bucks13's picture

I have to agree with the sentiment that one player does not make a huge difference. Even with Roby, our pass defense was atrocious at times last year. And all of this panic is assuming that no other players have progressed over the off season.

onetwentyeight's picture

Chicken - egg, etc. What would you say when the next guy on the depth chart steps up and performs as comparatively well in this scheme as Roby did? Was it his raw INDIVIDUAL talent alone or did the coaching staff put him in the position TO succeed? We'll see. 
 
I'd wait until the games actually start and our secondary ACTUALLY gets shredded (by the mighty slate of B1G qbs we'll have to face. ROFL) before actually panicking. 
 
Ya'll can down vote all you want I'm going to keep my cool and go about my day and everybody can reminisce on this next year after we raise that crystal ball. Good day. 

BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

I'm just simply stating you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to minimizing the impact to our defense. 
 
I didn't downvote you. 

Matt

BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

I'm just simply stating you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to minimizing the impact to our defense. 
 
I didn't downvote you. 

Matt

BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

This is very unfortunate... not only for these two young men who may have ruined/altered their entire lives, but for the victims, and for the team (which is really the least important of the three)
that said... Urban has recruited the defensive backfield very well, it's just time for some young Bucks to step up and get out there! 

hit_the_couch's picture

Storm Klein situation.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

wendigo's picture

we can only hope as much.

ATXbucknut's picture

From Cleveland newspaper, the police report on Roby:

On July 21, 2013 the Bloomington Police Department arrested Bradley James Roby (5/1/1992) for A- Misdemeanor Battery.
On July 21, 2013, at approximately 2:40 a.m., Bloomington Police were dispatched to the Dunkirk Bar, located at 430 E. Kirkwood Avenue, regarding a disturbance. When officers arrived they located Bradley James Roby being detained by private security officers hired by the bar. Bar staff, security officers, and an independent witness reported that Mr. Roby had been inside the Dunkirk Bar and had attempted to start a fight with another pattern. He was removed from the bar by bar staff. He then attempted to re-enter the bar to locate his friends. At that point he was stopped by security officers and told he could not re-enter the bar. Mr. Roby then struck one of the security guards in the chest, causing a complaint of pain. He was then wrestled to the ground and detained until police arrived on the scene.
Mr. Roby was arrested for A-Misdemeanor Battery and booked into the Monroe County Jail. For booking photographs please contact the Monroe County Jail.

Joe4's picture

It is a sign of how tough today has been that I felt relieved to read that Roby "only" struck the security guard in the chest!

Buckeye Chuck's picture

"Attempted to start a fight with another pattern?" What was it? Argyle? Checkerboard? Polkadot? A nice pinstripe, perhaps?

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

Idaho Helga's picture

I'd start a fight with a Polkadot.  

Northbrook's picture

That is scary. I'm staying out of Idaho.

Idaho Helga's picture

Lol. 
I guess it's just my pattern of bad behavior.

Young_Turk's picture

If was a pattern, I'd kick the micro-organisms out of Paisley.  If it was a Patron, I wouldn't, that stuff would destroy me (again).

Max Power's picture

looks like urban will still be without a 1000 YRD back...so disappointed. Rod Smith I believe your time has come. Now hang on to that damn ball! Truth be told Im excited to see what Warren Ball can do

doodah_man's picture

Posted this in April of 2012 in a post I labled demographics:
 
Latest crime rate  3466 crimes per 100,000 residents = .03466 [so for 125 players, there should be 4.33 who commit crimes, anything from simple theft to murder.]

Jim "DooDah" Day
It is hard to play dirty against a man who picks you up.

Buckeye Chuck's picture

For males 18-24, that number is going to be a lot higher. Not making excuses.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

kalabuckzoo's picture

you'd have to find crime rates for an average college campus or more specifically OSU to draw that conclusion.  may be higher or lower but these types of stats do not apply across the board.  

RedStorm45's picture

Baugh, Gardner, and Bell on top of the Roby and Hyde situations??  Worst offseason since...well, you know...

Hovenaut's picture

And I just received my Lindy's Buckeyes in the Huddle 2013 issue....with features on Messrs Hyde and Roby.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Oyster's picture

Save it.  You can sell it on Pawn Stars in 20 years. 

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

For a whopping $0.75, can't beat that deal!

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

wendigo's picture

sorry, best i can do is $.50

Oyster's picture

Only because there is a very limited market for these things and it will be hard to sell right?

BierStube's picture

Please tell me there were no other Buckeyes featured!!!

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

Michibuck's picture

I just received mine, also.

WezBuck28's picture

This is just gut wrenching news, I'm going to pray for all the young men involved..sad..

BuckI_1033's picture

Can you pray for the woman who was punched also?

"You'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community, and most especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan on the football field." 

WezBuck28's picture

I can, but I'm gonna need your help..

Phillips.449's picture

Well, it looks like our entire team will be a little more prepared for the season with regard to conditioning. 

okiebuck's picture

Morons; the both of them; BUT we move on and reload. Remember the rave reviews about the back ups in the Spring Game... Brionte, your time is now young man.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

FROMTHE18's picture

Roby's arrest is disappointing obviously but what Hyde did (allegedly) is horrendous. I understand that he has yet to be proven guilty of this act; however, for the time being, I can't help but associate him with hitting a woman, and this image really upsets me. Time will tell, but damn Carlos, what the hell?

Crimson's picture

I couldn't find the can opener either.

SilverBulletNYC's picture

Update: it's being reported (Vols message boards and other Buckeye message boards) that the Vonn Bell incident happened back in April...FWIW...

The South will NOT rise again!

steensn's picture

Interesting, not being an early enrollee is there anything the staff is allowed to do until he arrived on campus officially? Just wondering.

okiebuck's picture

And Rod Smith and Warren Ball and EE; the cupboard is not bare

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

Buckeyefan52's picture

When the going gets tough, the tough get going

OneOfOver475000's picture

The wonderful thing about being a fan at a place such as The OSU is the fact that we always will have the next man in line who can get the job done.  Regardless of the past with people such as Bauserman, Zwick, etc. there are plenty of athletes who have just had their opportunity opened.  To play at Ohio State is a privilege that very few get the opportunity to experience, I have full confidence these young guys will not only step through that door, but they will kick the damn thing down.  Have faith in our student-athletes, believe that those who are left wearing scarlet and gray will grow together because of the adversity, and do not lower your expectations.  You know DAMN well those players will not.  If nothing else, a lot of our 'pups' just got hungrier. 
They will be fine because they are a team.  Not a collection of individuals.  Those who come through that tunnel understand all they have put into their season, and they will not let the bad decisions of few bring down the collective whole. 
For those of you who just felt your world end, go play outside or something.  I promise, the sun is going to come up tomorrow.  It will be at its height at high noon on Aug. 31.

RunEddieRun1983's picture

Truth be told Roby won't face any serious charges.  Kids in college cause ruckus like that all the time. He'll probably miss a game or two though which will be enforced by the team.
Hyde, what a disappointment.  If you hit a woman you're just garbage in general.
 
Still have high hopes, let's go bucks!

I don't always downvote, but I do always downvote a Michigan fan trolling the Buckeye boards.

AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Working with both Law Enforcement and with the State Attorney's office, let me offer this:
It has been my experience that when battery cases are filed without an arrest on the spot, they are sent to the State Attorney for review. Some states have mandatory arrest laws in terms of domestic violence cases (which this is NOT because the girl and Hyde have no relationship to each other), but in cases like this (no definitive suspect) probable cause becomes much harder to establish.
Should a case like this be sent to the State Attorney's office for review (consideration of charges), the majority of the time, they are closed with 'No Information.' Remember, the State Attorney has to be able to prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt. Trials cost money.
It is possible that nothing much happened in this case and charges may not be filed. In that case, Hyde should be reinstated. The dismissal makes the most sense in light of the Klein situation.
Now, there is still the argument that the legal standard and the moral standard are not the same. Just because what he is alleged to have done may not be criminal and/or provable BARD, doesnt mean he did nothing at all. I still say let the facts come out and go from there.

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Unky Buck's picture

Thank you for this perspective. I didn't know any of that, even though between family and friends I know 15 lawyers. Very insightful. As is my approach, let's wait and see what the facts are. It clearly doesn't look good, and most fans are on that side of the fence, but things are still unclear and being "dismissed" from the team clearly isn't anything new (i.e. Storm Klein).

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Hovenaut's picture

Right on AHB.....this is far from over.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

BierStube's picture

I bet Buffalo thinks they have us right where they want us right about now!

"No matter where you go, there you are." B. Banzai

onetwentyeight's picture

MAN this fanbase really does have VERY LITTLE FAITH. Ya'll acting like Urban had a heart attack and Brax murdered someone in a nightclub. 
Maybe you guys haven't recognized this fact yet. Let me lay it out simply. 
THIS ISNT THE TRESSEL DAYS ANYMORE. GONE ARE THE DAYS OF finding "Jewels" in the rough and developing ex-3star guys into contributors. The downside of this was that those teams weren't as DEEP as they should have been. We're not lacking on raw personnel talent anymore. Urban recruits on a massive, INDUSTRIAL scale. When you do that, individual parts (including, and especially starters) become relatively MORE expendable than in the days where Tressel's staffs would attempt to squeeze out the most talent from relatively average talent pools (nobody has still adequately explained why the Baus was ever on the team). Also, this isn't a one man operation anymore. There are no cronies like Walrus on the squad squandering entire classes of talent in positions where we actually did recruit well. 
Notice how every year, Nick Saban loses several highly touted players to the NFL. Notice how every year, those players' individual losses are BARELY FELT if at all. Remember how everyone was like, oh how will they cope without HEISMAN WINNER MARK INGRAM? Then you realize it's an assembly line: ingram-richardson-yeldon etc. Or his secondary. Is anyone really predicting Bama's D to collapse after Dee Miliner leaves? 

Urban been recruiting in this same manner for 2 summers now. If another coach had been at the helm I'd be panicking now too. But I'm not. Because I KNOW for a fact we are more stocked with raw individual talent than at any other point in the school's history. No hyperbole.

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

In Urban We Trust

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

FROMTHE18's picture

Im wondering what everyone's thoughts are about this: WHAT IF MEYER WERE TO BOOT ROBY? Would people be in favor of that? upset? understanding? happy? I don't believe it will happen, but IF he did, I'd be alright with it. This stuff is getting out of hand already and he is only in year 2. Not blaming Meyer, but definitely would agree with a strict, 1 and done policy.

Fugelere's picture

If it happens it happens.  I wouldn't blame UFM if he did.  You wouldn't want to send the message that its okay to hit someone as long as they are male.

IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

TTUN still sucks.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

Unky Buck's picture

I read about 8 sentences of that thing...pure garbage. Does Fox know who they hired?

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Boomcat's picture

I stopped reading after the first 1/16th of the page.

tennbuckeye19's picture

One comment on this story from an A&M fan is like " Let's see how the 'ESPN-Urban Meyer Lovefest' handles this after going after Manziel like they did for partying and oversleeping.
Kind of a funny comment considering most on here think ESPN has it out for OSU &/or Meyer.

Bucks13's picture

Noticed that too

GoBucksToledo's picture

Sorry, but do not care what Clay Travis has to say and will not grace him with a page click.

theDuke's picture

WHO is Clay Travis? 
 

theDuke

Michibuck's picture

I didn't even read it.

dubjayfootball90's picture

haha, I am making a few people mad on that site, haha. Fun times.

Knarcisi's picture

Welcome to my world, Dubjay.

Boomcat's picture

The only happiness that comes out of this is the realization that we have a beast QB who is also a beast character. The likelihood of XBrax doing something stupid is extremely slim, as I'm sure most of you will agree. 

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

Don't worry, I knocked on wood for ya! Though it's definitely nice to have an understated QB who admits to liking to just chill at home with the guys!

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

albinomosquito's picture

Boy, that really escalated quickly....
There were horses, and a man on fire, and Braxton killed a guy with a trident!

Buckin-J's picture

Good thing this news didn't come on an already raining depressing Monday...... oh wait..... Shit

Go Bucks or go home. 

Whosisbrew's picture

I don't care. If they did anything to embarrass my university, they can hit the road.

macbraddy's picture

At least its not flooding in Columbus today...................

Go Bucks!!!

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Yeah. It was weird to see parts of Northen Lights flooded. I don't ever remember that happening.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Mikefletcher24's picture

Just beat Michigan 

Gametime's picture

At worse Roby would probably be suspended two games. After reading the report, it sounds like Roby and someone were probably talkin sh!t going back & forth, and Roby got escorted out. Then trying to go back in, the bouncers probably snatched him up and he probably pushed a dude in the chest (like he does on the field) and told him to get off of him, and then probably got detained.
At least that's how a picture it. Doesn't sound that egregious at all, prolly just got caught in the heat of the moment with a lil buzz.
Outside of that, Hyde, it was great supporting you as a Buckeye, I hope you manage to at least earn your degree and make something of yourself outside of football!
NEXT MAN UP!!!

...I too dream in color and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul or my mouth
A touch of God rains out...

BassDropper's picture

DIRECTIONER

steensn's picture

Interesting, so much conflicting information!

Knarcisi's picture

I would bet he's suspended indefinitely, pending further investigation.  Big difference from being kicked off permanently.  However, not good.  If he is guilty, it will take no time for enough info to come forward for him to get the permananet boot. 

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

Definitely. I just hope whatever happens is quick so that this doesn't linger; whether he's guilty and allows us to move on with the next guy up, or innocent and allows us to forget it happened.

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

They want us to wait for the facts to come out before we rush to judgement? Screw that noise! Panicking is more fun.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

Frankly Scarlet's picture

Since Rod is likely the new starter, perhaps we should add YBF to the stat line next to YAC.   

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

ScoobyKnows's picture

I'm going back to bed

theobi's picture

Eli Apple, come on down

Knarcisi's picture

Don't forget about Armani Reeves.

UrbanCulture's picture

yep. real excited about him. seems to be forgotton a lot.

avail31678's picture

LOL - read the police department release about Roby...apparently he is guilty of attempting to start a fight with a "pattern."

Knarcisi's picture

Not to downplay this, but may not be as bad as we think.  Obviously he was in a verbal altercation, got tossed, then came back in and struck a bouncer in his chest.  Did he push him or give him a shiver?  No one would punch someone in the chest, would they?  And hey, who wouldn't want to take a shot at one of these tough guy bouncers with the godlike complex.  I don't excuse any of it, and am disgusted with all this, but he didn't punch someone in the head or face. 

avail31678's picture

Agreed.  Hopefully this simmers a little and ends up being a stupid mistake without huge consequences but with a lot learned.
But I was just trying to point out the police's incorrect word usage in "pattern."  I think they meant "patron." 

tennbuckeye19's picture

Yeah, sounds like the incident occurred at a Jo-Ann Fabrics Store.

steensn's picture

BS, we all know Roby is a Michaels Arts and Crafts guy...

avail31678's picture

Ha!  I was getting sick of all those tweets and pictures of Manziel in fabric stores until all hours of the night, but now Roby?! 

BassDropper's picture

If this turns out to be the case, I think it's safe to say he is offically being given the Storm Klien treatment and we'll see what happens after it all plays out.
 
 

DIRECTIONER

Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

I just saw these tweets and was surprised by the info.  The victim said Hyde ran after he hit her so it isn't a surprise to me that he wasn't there when the cops showed up.  He'll be questioned tomorrow and we will know more.  If he hit her, I don't care if the charges are dropped or not he needs to be kicked off. 

Maestro's picture

Stepping back from all of this now.

vacuuming sucks

IBleedSandG's picture

Losing Hyde sucks, but like many, many other have said, we have a lot of talent and depth at RB.
 
Mr. Roderick Smith,
Your time is now.
 
What in the bloody hell was Roby doing in Bloomington anyway?

We don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, we're from O-HI-O!

hit_the_couch's picture

t's against the law to travel?

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Olemissbuckeye's picture

Manziel drama, the Florida linebacker arrested for barking at a police dog, and now all this. Mark Richt has completely lost control of the offseason. The season can't start soon enough.

Northbrook's picture

This is especially annoying when we could be having fun barking at the Gators right now.

Oldschoolbuck's picture

Wow! Never seen so many posts in such a short period of time.
Let's all take a deep breath and let the chips fall ... There is ABSOLUTELY no reason to write the season off, first of all. As far as I can tell, XBrax is still the QB, the D certainly lost a HUGE cog but it gives some of the young guys a chance to step in and make an impact. As for blaming UFM? C 'mon guys (and gals)! He's been preaching from day 1 about doing things the right way. It's possible that BECAUSE he is able to recruit such talented players (speaking of his Goiter days now - obviously Hyde & Roby were Tressel recruits), there are a lot of divas and kids with an "entitlement" mentality. We all know that high profile athletes "get away" with lots of stuff that others don't - heck, I saw it at my high school with kids that were only going to be playing D2 ball!
Someone said it earlier: you can preach til you're blue in the face, but humans are going to be humans. What has to happen; and, from what we can tell at this early juncture SEEMS to be happening, is UFM doling out consequences.
I believe that, by and large, Urban has been recruiting kids with both talent AND character! The sky isn't falling, and I'm not selling my Buckeye gear because of two knuckleheads!

James F's picture

The TAB key is your friend, don't be afraid of it.

Brutus's picture

Sweet Piston Honda icon.  Interesting choice.  I was always partial to Don Flamenco.

Fear The Elf's picture

Just tell everybody that Cecil Newton did it, and everything will go away.

steensn's picture

But only if he asked for money...

bk2boarder's picture

This is probably what happened with El Guapo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eQLXYu6plhg#at=127
 

-Brett
Class of '06

hit_the_couch's picture

Sarah Silverman is annoying and deserved it.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Buckeye Rocket Sci's picture

That's pure gold, had to try so hard not to crack up at my desk at work!

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence" - Calvin Coolidge

UrbanBuckeye's picture

The law and Coach Meyer will deal with the drama accordingly. Honestly not too worried. If Roby misses a game or two, meh... Might as well get guys like Armani Reeves, Eli Apple and Cameron Burrows playing time in the easy-ish non-conference games.

In Urban We Trust!

hit_the_couch's picture

Make it go away. Win at all cost like the military.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Jonnferrell's picture

Hyde is one thing, then there's Roby.  You know that Bloomington, IN, is not Columbus, OH, and they are not all that crazy about Ohio State Football in Bloomington.  The young man really was not thinking to do something so stupid.  They call them "bouncers" because they bounce people out of bars--and you listen to the bouncers.  --sigh--

"I'm still hungry." --Brady Hoke

UrbanBuckeye's picture

On a positive note, how classy has Braxton Miller been at Ohio State? He and Johnny Manziel are opposites, as far as I know.

In Urban We Trust!

longstb's picture

Take a breath, everyone!
It is a called a PROGRAM for a reason...much larger than two players. OSU will be just fine.  Go Bucks.

BL

bucks15's picture

I think at this junction the best thing to do is to wait for an official statement from Ohio State.  There are too many conflicting reports.  First he is dismissed from the team, now apparently the victim wasn't knocked out, Hyde wasn't there when the police came, and he has not been dismissed from the team.  This story is getting exhausting to follow, but it sure is fun speculating.  

BlockO's picture

Rod Smith will take the ball and run with it....... I'm thinking 1500 yards this season. Remember Eddie George had problems fumbling the ball early in his career as well and became a Heisman trophy winner. I say that if he is named the starter WATCH OUT!!!! I think he is better than EL GUAPO. Roby on the other hand is IRREPLACEABLE! I will say that even without Roby we will have the one of the most talented secondary in the nation. That Experience and skill that Roby has is a killer though.

"faith seeking understanding” (fides quaerens intellectum)

ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I get that college kids make mistakes and all, but these guys are leaders on this team, and they're better than that.  My first post may have been a little hyperbole on my part, but that doesn't mean I'm not disappointed in them.  I guess we wait for the facts to play out. 
I suspect Hyde is getting the Storm Klein treatment - kicked off the team for now unless something comes out that is favorable to him.  But seriously, hitting a girl goes beyond "college kids make mistakes".  If he did really hit her on purpose, then he should be gone.  Next man up, as they say, and there is talented depth at RB, so my concerns are small there.
As far as Roby goes...probably a suspension...5 games or less.  Fights at bars happen...best bet in the future is to walk away, especially if they ask you to leave.  Losing Roby would hurt more, as he is clearly the most talented defensive back this team has, and it's not as easy of a position for a backup to come in and do well.  Certainly, there will be someone who will step and fill in, but those are big, big shoes to fill. 
Asking these guys to avoid the bar scene is unrealistic.  The best thing they can do when a situation gets tense is to just walk away.  Easier said than done.

Class of 2010.

SOF_Buckeye's picture

Regardless of how these situations play out (Hyde, Roby, Baugh, Bell?), it is ridiculous that it's happening, given what has transpired in the media this summer (UFM assault by media for Florida days; Manziel). There is no way these individuals were not aware of what has transpired, and how they need to act. I don't want to hear about 'they're just kids'; while I agree they're young men, there's no doubt they've been briefed, and have more access to 'how to deal with the media' than the average folks. For Bell (I don't know if anything official has come out yet), especially right after Baugh went through this; is either outright stupidity, or arrogance; either way, he needs a serious swift kick into reality.
For Roby and Hyde; 1- need to let the justice system play out; but while it does, 2- indefinite suspensions. If symptoms of truth are diagnosed to be accurate, then a complete immunization from Buckeye football should be forthcoming. 
This team has depth, both at running back and defensive backs, and I believe will meet the challenge.

"The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." Woody Hayes

Larryp713's picture

I really hope Roby gets no more than a 4 game suspension for pushing/punching a bouncer in the chest. It is a misdemeanor that will certainly be reduced to a fine, maybe community service. Anything more than a 4 game suspension is excessive for this particular crime.
As for the partying one week before the start of fall practices and a season with incredibly high expectations, young guys trying to have a final blowout is understandable. I certainly would have done the same at 22 years old. But if they want to get hammered, do it at your buddies place, or with enough trustworthy friends to help keep you out of trouble. I hope all the players learn something from this.
I can't demonize Roby for what he did. Sounds like a poor choice. The Hyde thing is much more concerning, and I hope there is some explanation as to how this could happen besides what seems obvious. There can be no excuse for intentionally assaulting a female for refusing to dance with you. EVER.

Respectfully,

Larryp713

Frankly Scarlet's picture

At best - and this has probably been mentioned somewhere in these almost 500 posts - Roby needs to be stripped of his no. 1 jersey, unless Urban can have the equipment manager put a minus sign in front of it.

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

BlockO's picture

"faith seeking understanding” (fides quaerens intellectum)

TheShookster's picture

lol somebody on twitter said "RB Austin Ward" was dismissed from the team.

captain obvious's picture

I always thought that Austin Ward was overrated

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

JakeBuckeye's picture

Well, this really sucks, to state the obvious. Especially because El Guapo was arguably my favorite player and seemed like a really cool, easy-going dude. I'm glad Urban kicked him off the team, though. It sends a message to the rest of the team for any other future idiots and shows the rest of the nation what Ohio State is all about. Just think of the future Carlos just lost for himself. He was definitely gaining stock for next year's draft. Idiots.

Swayze's picture

So, I take it I'm the only one who is not worried? Hyde if true will be a huge lose, but lets face it RB is the deepest position at OSU. Roby will/should miss a few games, but those games will be against who?....worried....not me.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Hyde was still our best and only proven running back, which is such a pivotal part of Meyer's offense. Yes, we have depth in terms of talent at running back, but no proven/seasoned guys back there (Jordan Hall still has not proven himself.) I'm not hyperventilating, but I'm also not shrugging this off.

Swayze's picture

Like I said Hyde hurts, but not as much as it would if we lost one in a thinner position like OL. 

TatumRuled's picture

Braxton, please join a monastery in Tibet until Aug 31. They probably have cable now!

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

LadyBuck's picture

Can the football season finally start? Please?

Maestro's picture

ADV had a good weekend at least.

vacuuming sucks

ATT2121's picture

Thank you for the smile. It was needed today.

 
 

"It all goes so fast, and character makes the difference when it's close."
Jesse Owens
 

Knarcisi's picture

Leaders and Captains on this team need to step up. Time to start creating accountability with their teammates and self policing. 

bucks15's picture

I think the punishment for Roby won't be as significant as some on here believe.  One important factor in what Urban decides to do with Roby is that he sets the precedent for future misbehaviors, unlike the Hyde situation.  Hyde is in a similar spot like Klein was last year, we can safely assume severe action will be taken based on last year's punishment.
The Roby situation is different, this is the first time a star player has been arrested for a mediocre crime.  I am not condoning what Roby did at all, it was wrong and he should be punished.  However, what he did could have been a lot worse.  If you suspend Roby for 5+ games for a misdemeanor, what is it going be like when a player, hypothetically speaking, gets a DUI? A DUI is notably worse offense than a misdemeanor battery charge,  so if your going to suspend a misdemeanor battery charge for 5+ games, what does a DUI warrant, an entire season suspension?  For this reason alone, I would be surprised that if the suspension exceeded two games.  I can see something like a 2-game suspension, revoking of captain status, and serious extra conditioning, along with the court ordered punishment.        

gobucks96's picture

I can't tell if I should be looking for a ledge or apologizing for fearing the worst.... Monday's suck..
 

BUCKfutter's picture

If Braxton can find it within himself to call a players-only meeting and do some yelling, this is his perfect opportunity to seize the reins of this team permanently.  I get that he is the quiet, lead by example type, but teams almost always benefit from the quarterback being the unquestioned leader.  This is Braxton's chance to take a large step towards becoming that vocal leader that the team so (obviously) badly needs post-Simon.

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

TheShookster's picture

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072213aaa.html Hyde will be back if he's proven innocent, roby will be disciplined and timothy gardener is not going to be a part of the 2013 team.

Boomcat's picture

That makes me feel a lot better! Now we finally have word from the man himself. Sounds like Roby is a wait-and-see thing and Hyde is just like we figured: Storm Klein thing. 

SOF_Buckeye's picture

I just read on 24/7 that Tim Gardner has been sent home and will not be a part of the 2013 team due to obstruction of official business.

"The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." Woody Hayes

bucks15's picture

Also saw that Marcus Baugh is suspended for the first game of the season versus Buffalo and has his summer scholarship revoked.  

avail31678's picture

So what does that mean "will not be a part of the 2013 team?"  He'll be back in 2014?  Interesting...

SilverBulletNYC's picture

Hyde not dismissed- just suspended indefinitely pending outcome of case.
Baugh- 1 game suspension
Roby- not attending B1G media week
Gardner- gone (probably for good)
Vonn Bell- rumors not true, it seems.

The South will NOT rise again!

hit_the_couch's picture

Bell was arrested because there was an open container in the car he was in. The driver was cited with DUI.
Bell was lkey arrested because he's underage. IT could be his or he could have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Curt Heinrichs's picture

It seems we could all stand to learn a lesson from Dwight K. Schrute when out for the night:

Meechy77's picture

Sad day... I was heated when I found out

Angry staff, Angry team. The Ohio State

SilverBulletNYC's picture

It is indeed, Meechy. We need you in the family to turn this all around....

The South will NOT rise again!

BuckeyeNationProblems's picture

Wtf shut up. Yes we want the kid to play football at osu, but knock it off with that bullshit. 

Matt

BME_Buckeye's picture

I don't personally know Meechy but I'm sure he's like any other recruit. Has  good characters, honest, wants to be in the NFL and more. However the fact that you add that he can turn this all around is a reach. What could he do to turn around this situation or prevent it from happening in the future. Sure you'll have accountability partners on the team but players will make their own choices and decisions. Its no reason to think Meechy or any other recruit can turn anything around.

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.

 

-1 HS
Boomcat's picture

In light of the recent information and input from some of the people above, I think there is light at the end of the tunnel. Doesn't sound like the consequences of this will be as bad as we initially thought. HOPEFULLY

CowCat's picture

I understand that coach Meyer has to be harsh -- we are under NCAA scrutiny after all.
However, all of this seems out of character.   Carlos Hyde doesn't come across as being any sort of thug on his Twitter account.    Roby made a conscious sacrifice (forgoing the NFL) to stay with the team.
Put another way, if someone had asked last week "Which Buckeyes are likely to get arrested at some point?", I doubt anyone would have picked Hyde or Roby.
It's sad that all of this stuff tends to happen in the off-season, when the coaches can't be in contact with the players.   All of the players on the team have really structured lives once the season gets going -- And somethimes when structure isn't there some people create their own rules.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

theDuke's picture

look on the bright side, at least we're not Michigan.

theDuke

CowCat's picture

^There is a silver lining!

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

Phutatorius's picture

Has the door closed on a Rushel Shell transfer?  I don't know what Tim Gardner did, but the fact that Urban outright sent him home suggests to me he's looking to bank a scholarship.
I'm happy with Rod Smith, Dunn, Ball, and E-Z-E.  But there's a potential for depth issues at RB down the line.

harleymanjax's picture

Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

txbucknut's picture

Today was a bad day to "refresh" my Twitter feed. Every time I did, it seemed like one more Buckeye got arrested, was in trouble, or got kicked off the team. What the heck did they put in the water in Columbus last week? I was expecting a punch in the gut since yesterday, but I got sucker punched in addition.  

Crimson's picture

I'm not sure, but I always filter my water.

txbucknut's picture

So ESPN's Brett McMurphy is apparently reporting that video surveillance exists at Sugar and it paints a much different picture than what has been reported so far. Not to jump to conclusions but the picture that has been painted so far is a pretty bad one for Hyde, so this could mean that the video favors Hyde's innocence, or at the very least shows his involvement is not what was originally reported. Just emphasizes the importance of waiting until all the facts are in and not jumping to conclusions. 
 

 

captain obvious's picture

The victim stated that on the listed date and time at the listed location that the listed Suspect struck her in the face with his elbow. The Victim stated that her nose began to bleed and she fell to the ground which caused her to twist her ankle. The Victim stated that she advised the bar staff of the incident but they did nothing to help her.

I've been saying this all along the elbow to a stranger especially
 a female just does not make any sense.

I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me

Crimson's picture

Someone also keeps following you around and saying that you're quoting the wrong report.

UrbzRenewal's picture

That's correct, that is the wrong report.