Monday Skull Session

By Jason Priestas on February 11, 2013 at 6:00a

Good morning and congratulations for resisting the urge to commit to Urban Meyer and Ohio State yesterday.

If you missed it, Meyer and the Buckeyes secured pledges from offensive tackle Kyle Trout, defensive end Lawrence Marshall and running back/athlete Parris Campbell yesterday. It was an impressive one day haul that brought to five the number of young men in the class of 2014 who are buying what Meyer, Kerry Coombs and the rest of the staff is selling, namely a chance to celebrate weeks of hard work in Ohio Stadium.

Trout, a lifelong Buckeye fan from nearby Lancaster, got the party started early when he confirmed his commitment to Eleven Warriors shortly after noon. He's huge (6-6/285) and talented, rated as the 12th-best tackle in the nation and 4th-best overall prospect in the state of Ohio by the 247 Composite index.

Better yet, Trout fills a glaring need for the Buckeyes, joining Glenville's Marcelys Jones as the second offensive lineman in the class. The Buckeyes signed just two offensive linemen in the entire 2013 class and Meyer spoke at length about how the position was one of need in this next cycle.

Less than an hour later, Marshall became the fourth member of the class, taking up Mike Vrabel's offer to become a Buckeye. A weak-side defensive end, Marshall chose Ohio State over offers from Michigan, Michigan State, Tennessee and numerous other Big Ten and BCS conference schools. He's rated as the nation's 14th-best WDE prospect in the 247 Composite index.

Marshall, from Southfield High School northwest of Detroit, is the second member of the class from the state of Michigan, joining Cass Tech cornerback Damon Webb. Clearly, the flags Kerry Coombs has planted across the Mitten State are starting to pay off and our friends from beyond the wall have descended into full-on fret mode.

Campbell completed the blue chip lightning round when he committed mere minutes after Marshall. The 6-foot, 180-pound running back from Akron's St. Vincent-St. Mary held offers from Michigan State and Tennessee, with others closing quickly following his 165 rushing yards and three touchdowns in the Division III state championship game two months ago.

Just as important, Campbell is teammates with Dante Booker, an outside linebacker that is regarded as one of the top two players in the state of Ohio in this class and a top-three prospect at his position, nationally. Booker teased Buckeye fans a bit shortly after Campbell's commitment:

Yes, please.

In other recruiting news, punter Andrew Gantz of Centerville, previously headed to Tennessee as a preferred walk-on, will likely change course and attend Ohio State. It's not a done deal yet, but a source is saying Urban Meyer phoned Gantz recently and asked, "Why are you going to Tennessee? Don't you want to be a Buckeye?" Sold.

GETTING TO 20. Indiana became the first B1G team to top 50% from the field against the Buckeyes this year and lo and behold, left Columbus with an 81-68 win yesterday. The Hoosiers played perhaps their most complete game of the season and dealt the Buckeyes a blow in their bid to repeat as Big Ten regular season champs.

With just seven games remaining, Ohio State finds itself two games behind league co-leaders Indiana and Michigan State. It's not an impossible gap to close, but then again, it will take a miracle of sorts to pull it off.

Standing at 17 wins on the season, the Buckeyes need to pick up three more to keep Thad Matta's streak of 20-win seasons alive. He's managed the feat in all 12 of his previous campaigns, spanning his time at Butler, Xavier and Ohio State, so which of the remaining seven games will provide the three wins needed? Let's take a look:

  • Northwestern (2/14) - Likely win
  • @ Wisconsin (2/17) - Likely loss
  • Minnesota (2/20) - Likely win
  • Michigan State (2/24) - Toss up
  • @ Northwestern (2/28) - Likely win
  • @ Indiana (3/5) - Likely loss
  • Illinois (3/10) - Likely win

Minnesota and the game at Northwestern could easily go the wrong way if the Buckeyes don't come out to play, but Ohio State should be able to get to 20 wins during the regular season. Failing that, the Buckeyes would draw lowly Penn State in the first round of the conference tournament if the season were to end today, so there's a better than decent chance that they'll add a win or two in the Big Ten tourney, with the potential for another one or two wins in the NCAA tournament.

Consider the streak safe.

Can't no Nor'easter keep the Buckeye flag downThe Block "O" rises above all Nor'easters. [Via]

THANKS, DEREK DOOLEY. Seriously, thank you, Derek Dooley.

PATERNO FAMILY-FUNDED REPORTS SAYS JOE WAS HONORABLE, LOVED PUPPIES. The family of Joe Paterno has launched an all-out offensive against the Freeh Report, complete with a slick website and four different expert reports. The gist of the reports are that the Freeh Report was flawed, rushed, and ignored the good in Joe Paterno.

Ramzy appropriately fisked the reports, but for good measure, Louis Freeh released his own statement. A snippet:

Mr. Paterno was on notice for at least 13 years that Sandusky, one of his longest serving assistants, and whose office was steps away, was a probable serial pedophile. Mr. Paterno was aware of the criminal 1998 investigation into Sandusky's suspected child sexual abuse. Indeed, the evidence shows that Mr. Paterno closely followed that case. Later, in 2001, another one of his assistants, Mr. McQueary, directly reported to Mr. Paterno that Sandusky was sexually abusing a young boy in Mr. Paterno's Penn State football locker room. The evidence shows that Mr. Paterno purposefully ignored this evidence.

I stand by our conclusion that four of the most powerful people at Penn State failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade. These men exhibited a striking lack of empathy for Sandusky's victims by failing to inquire as to their safety and well-being, especially by not even attempting to determine the identity of the child who Sandusky assaulted in the Lasch Building in 2001.


Elsewhere, Penn State's blog of record took issue with Urban Meyer's intent to help the Big Ten up its recruiting game, pulling quotes from Bret Bielema and Mike Bianchi of all people to support its stance. Oh, and the Big Ten doesn't need to change anything because the league leads the country in Academic All-Americans and prepares "their student athletes who go pro in something other than sports."

Look, we appreciate the league's academic chops as much anyone, but let's not kid ourselves: 100,000 fans do not pack stadiums to watch spelling bees or to judge science fairs. Visitors to Penn State blogs are not visiting to follow the academics of the school's student athletes. They're there to celebrate wins on the field.

Did you know that in 1935, the SEC became the first conference to hand out athletic scholarships? This move outraged Harvard, Yale and many other northern institutions, yet here we are, 75 years later with the SEC holding seven crystal footballs.

AIN'T NO PARTY LIKE A BADGER LOCKER ROOM PARTY. Remember that GIF of Kansas celebrating a road win over Ohio State in the visitor's locker room? Well, here's Mike Bruesewitz and the Badgers doing whatever the opposite of that Jayhawk shuffle is:

MISC. Missed this a few days ago, but the Big Ten Circle of Parity is – for the most part – complete... College basketball TV ratings for most of the games played to this point; Ohio State shows well... NBC offered the Big East a $23 million media rights deal two years after the conference turned down an ESPN deal worth $130 million annually... The Grammy tribute was nice, but nothing approaches the original.


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The Vest-er's picture

Oh penn state fans. If butthurt was a drug, John Travolta would be working overtime shoving needles into your chests.

Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.

LouGroza's picture

The great recruiting news continues. The blog from the team up north is showing signs of distress. Statements like this are showing a little worry. "Looks like Urban has settled in and is getting his pick." They are even facing the music that he will out-recruit their coach which, even though it is complete and total fact, is so hard for them to admit. If there isn't a win for them against Urban in 2013, lookout. If no win in 2014, he will be sweating pork chops and their fans will be ready for the kill.

btalbert25's picture

Reading the comments made on MGoBlog, I thought, how can anyone stand to frequent that site.  I can't handle that much douchery in one sitting.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

If no win [for Hoke against Ohio State] in 2014, he will be sweating pork chops and their fans will be ready for the kill.

If Hoke ever starts sweating pork chops, he will certainly lose his job at Michigan, because he will spend all of his time at the sauna.

cinserious's picture

Ichigan is probably the least automatic win for the Buckeyes in the B1G but I still can fully see us going up there and winning this yr and getting another home win in '14. At that point the seat will be fired up and ready to roast some Hoke!

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

So the chances are good that Ohio State will land Dante Booker, and Clifton Garrett?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

LouGroza's picture

The Derek Dooley piece shows that Vonn Bell was UTs for the taking if only Dooley had just recruited him. Crazy how things happen....for a reason? Why on earth would he not have recruited Bell? Guess that is why guys that get fired, get fired. This type of recruiting couldn't be going on in the B1G now could it? No way. Get after them Urban. 

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Why on earth would he not have recruited Bell?

Maybe Dooley knew he was on his way out, and this was his way of saying "F U" to UT.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

beserkr29's picture

Reading that article was highly reminiscent of the story of Patrick Willis' recruitment.  He loved UT and wanted to go there badly, but the staff wouldn't give him the time of day.  He ended up at Ole Miss and the rest is history.  Granted, there were academic concerns in HS for Willis, but that's no reason to not recruit a great player.  UT just seems to be completely out of sorts in ever aspect since the end of the Fulmer era.

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

If a great player in high school has academic problems, chances are he won't make a good enough score on his ACT or SAT test for entrance to the university. Or he will be a huge borderline risk that many coached will take, if he can barely pass the ACT or SAT. What good is the great player if he can't make high enough grades in college to play his sport? He doesn't play, period. A scholarship is wasted. This goes for the women's sports, too. I don't worry about Ohio State. When my daughter attended OSU and graduated cum laude in 2005, the school completed its change to being a selective school instead of one that would take anyone who was breathing and walking. I have a feeling most if not all SEC schools are those who are not selective in their recruitment of students, athletes or not.

AndyVance's picture

Bell's Dad says it all:

I'm old school and I told Vonn to look at this process like he would getting married," Vincent said. "You go through the dating process, then you pick the one you want to be with and you stick to it. You don't commit and then flirt with another program like some recruits do. You make a decision and then it's over. That's what a commitment means.

hail2victors9's picture

I wish this could become a NCAA rule.  With the exception being if your girlfriend moves away or dies.

Those who stay will be CHAMPIONS!

~Bo Schembechler

Earle's picture

Or was a dude.

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CC's picture

It is the rule.  NLI - Everything before it is just dating.

gwalther's picture

LOL at the setup and actual video of the Wisconsin postgame celebration.

Class of 2008

Citrus's picture

Oh Urbz you sly fox. I though after NSD there would be a cooling period in which I could be a bit more work and stay off the site. I am gone one day and he lands 3 commits. Never again! haha Urbz just ensured I come to the site every day.

Lincoln's picture

I purposly avoided the site yesterday because I was bummed about baskets. Did I miss anything???

BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

Although it came at the expense of the Buckeyes, that GIF of the Jayhawk shuffle is fun to watch.

thatlillefty's picture

No doubt. Salty at what they're celebrating by that gave me a good laugh to start the day.

Denny's picture

Gonna listen to The Band all day now. My sincerest thanks, Jason. 
Also, cool pants Derek Dooley. 


RBuck's picture

The Last Waltz is the greatest concert movie ever filmed. Gonna plug in the old VCR later and watch it on tape.

Long live the southend.

BuddhaBuck's picture

Lattimore and Booker would complete a Buckeye sweep of the Top 4 2014 recruits from Ohio...

Don't text while driving.

chicagobuckeye's picture

I think Ferns is pretty high up there, and you can't take the composite rankings in just yet because not all sites have their numbers up just yet.


Yes, Mr. Booker. Join us (These aren't the droids you're looking for).
Isn't it funny that PSU fans think adding quotes from Bianchi articles add credibility and prestige to their beliefs? you will never find someone more biased, impartial and totally subjective in all of media than Mr. Bald Douchey. ESPN pales in comparison to that guy, yet he's their most trusted source? Most comically asinine thing i've ever heard, other than them desperately trying to vindicate people who covered up and hid child rape for a decade, that is.

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BuckeyeChief's picture

I can't believe I am going to say this, but outside of scUM, f*** the rest of the B1G; you wanna complain about the truth? STEP YOUR GAME UP! How many of you f*ckers are e-mailing your AD's? I know I have in the past.
These are the same fanbases who blamed tOSU for dragging downn the conference for losing to FLA, LSU and UT in BCS bowls, while ignoring the fact the we were the only team in the conference doing sh*t in bowl games on a regular bases.

"2014 National with it!!!"

partisan's picture

My favorite reaction has been other B1G fanbases claiming that there is no way the OSU staff works harder than their coaches, it's not possible.
Then we pick up another kid from Michigan and it turns out we've visited the kids high school way more than even tsun, let alone any other school recruiting Marshall.  Hell, Coombs is at Cass Tech so much the kids all recognize him at this point.
They just don't get it.

BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

Ohio State is the place to be... these top recruits better commit early, because there won't be a spot for them if they wait too long... and after the Buckeyes dethrone Alabama, everyone will want to be a Buckeye.

Doc's picture

^^^This!^^^ So much this!^^^  Get on board before we steam roll ya!

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TkeBuck's picture

I realize the show never ends, but I wish we could just breath and enjoy the ridiculous recruiting 2013 season Meyer just concluded. This fall may be one to remember. Proud to be a Buckeye.

Alhan's picture

The links to the *ichigan forums are hilarious.  It didn't take long for them to blame claim us taking their top prospects in 2014 on Rich Rod.  Whatever helps them sleep at night.
Nothing like starting they day out with a steamy cup of Wolverine tears!

"Nom nom nom" - Brady Hoke

Red Shirt Ensign's picture

Not to mention a nice cold glass of UFM's private orange juice!  Astonishing that UFM's organization is so strong and the others so weak and disorganized.
We are in the process of witnessing something very special people!  Better savor it!

"Captain, over here, I've found someth... AHHHH!!!!!!"


USMC11917's picture

"I'm old school and I told Vonn to look at this process like he would getting married," Vincent said. "You go through the dating process, then you pick the one you want to be with and you stick to it. You don't commit and then flirt with another program like some recruits do. You make a decision and then it's over. That's what a commitment means.
"If you're good enough, go somewhere that will help you reach your goal if you want to play professionally. Make it a business decision, because that's what it is for the programs."

I like this guy!

nickma71's picture

Joe Paterno said he knew on public television in his interview. He let Sandusky in the facilities because he didn't believe it. Men don't have relations with other men, let alone boys. I am paraphrasing, but that is what he said.

RedStorm45's picture

Matta had 19 "regular season" wins in '04-'05 (post-season self-imposed ban year) but reeled off a win at the Big 10 Tourney to get to 20.  Not sure if the big ten tournament counts as regular season or post-season.
This week was tough for hoops...lose such a close one on the road to scUM (who is ahead in the standings) and then are basically a no-show at home against the #1 team in the country (also ahead in standings) - yes, IU may stay #1 with how volatile college basketball is this year, especially this weekend.
I know there have been "the sky is falling" discussions about the basketball team, and for the most part I thought, "wow, this team is just so much worse than last year."  But really, there is one "bad loss" - at Illinois.  Other than that, we've lost to top 10 teams and most have been closed.  We won't see a top 10 team until the sweet 16 in March.  Concerning we can't close and our talent level outside of Thomas is a pretty bad drop off, but CBB has no great teams this year.  Every team has flaws.  The regular season has been crazy.  They need to get more out of the 5 spot and learn to box out but with how crazy the year has been anything could happen in March.

Squirrel Master's picture

a team loses 2 all big ten players from last year after going to the final four. I think we all should have expected a drop off from last year, definitely!
I didn't expect much myself. I thought if they could get a 3-4 seed in the tourney and get to the sweet sixteen, that is a good year for this team. They just aren't complete to be able to compete against the big boys yet. Next year should be different.
B1G tourney games do count as well as does the NCAA's in the 20 win seasons.

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

I agree that we should have expected a drop off.  I think most of us just thought the players would be better coming into the year, which hasn't been the case.  However, I think we're a much better team than when we started the year.  I absolutely agree that there's no dominant team this year.  I too am hoping for the sweet sixteen this year, but you know what, we've seen glimpses of how tough this team can be.  Maybe not for 40 minutes, but we're starting to get closer to playing 20 minutes - and I would argue that our first half against IU, minus the last few minutes were close.  That gives me hope...that and watching all of our streaky shooters have on and off nights.  Where at the beginning of the season, we wouldn't have a streaky shooter for a night and if DT didn't score, we didn't score.  Now we're seeing Smith, Thompson, Ross and Craft all crack double digits in one of every 2,3, or 4 games.  There's a glimmer of hope that we can put it together for the tournament - DT plays well and gets his, with two other support players stepping up.  Our defense gives us this chance and now we just have to keep getting consistent on offense.  

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Squirrel Master's picture

I know it wasn't bogus calls but the early fouls called on Amir killed this team yesterday! He was the only guy who could kinda, sorta slow down Zeller. Cody ate up Ravenel and McDonald. It was no chance. The refs really hurt OSU and they didn't stand a chance.
I do see strides. I see major strides compared to my opinion at the start of the season. Again, maybe I was too low on this team coming in than others were but I am nothing but content at where they are at right now. I think they are not really ready to compete with the top of the country yet but are capable of causing an upset. I would love for them to be a 4 seed and knock off a #1 to get into the elite eight!
If Amir puts it all together at one time, Craft becomes more consistent shooting wise and Ross keeps going the way he is going (Matta also screwed up leaving him on the bench too late), then this team will be solid and could make a deep run. I still say a sweet sixteen birth would meet expectations.
I do like the outlook of the next couple of years too. There are some talented players coming in with Kameron Williams and Marc Loving. Then in 2014 we get to see Keita Bates-Diop. Kid is long and a scorer.

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

RedStorm45's picture

I know the NCAA counts it, but it was written as "regular season wins" and the big ten tourney is really "post-season."

Squirrel Master's picture

It wasn't written as "regular season wins". It said this,

Standing at 17 wins on the season, the Buckeyes need to pick up three more to keep Thad Matta's streak of 20-win seasons alive.

The part about regular season was the opportunities to be able to do it during the regular season. There wasn't anything in regards to this being a regular season only goal. The goal is to wrap up the 20 win season before post-season play because a B1G tourney win and/or NCAA win is tough. So try to get to that mark while you can. Not to mention it would really help the teams seating in the tourney if they could get over 20 wins.

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

RedStorm45's picture

My fault, I saw the piece about getting to 20 wins in the regular season below that.

Knarcisi's picture

Guys, 20 wins isn't that hard to do anymore with all teh games being played.  New bar should be 25 games if we are being objective. 

GuidedByVoices's picture

and really, how "bad" is that loss to Illinois looking now? The Buckeyes will dance with a 4 or 5 seed (3 if we upset IU at home or UM/IU in the tourney). They'll be battle-tested come March, and bracketologists will tab them the team the top seeds want to avoid. Pretty sure most of us agree that this year is wide open. We're lucky to have become spoiled, so I'll take that outcome.

RedStorm45's picture

Pretty bad.  They're 4-7 in the big ten.  And 5-8 in their last 13 games.

Doc's picture

Holy crap those AACCgoblog people are delusional.  At the bottom of the first page they are considering that Clarrett got paid and that was the only reason Tress was successfull.  Not giving any consideration for the other 9 years he owned their asses.  Butthurt pudding must taste good, cause they are shoveling it in at an alarming rate.

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btalbert25's picture

That's hilarous.  Why even talk about Tressel anymore?  His era is over, he's not here anymore.  We had some good times and some bad. I feel that way for us and the rest of the B1G who talks about how much of a cheater he was. He's gone!  Now we have Urban the rest of the B1G just needs to DEAL WITH IT!!!!!

toad1204's picture

The other good thing to come out of Trout's commitment... 

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

gobucks96's picture

That... was awesome. 

Maestro's picture

Great response by Freeh.

vacuuming sucks

thatlillefty's picture

So first we pluck Vonn Bell from UT's backyard. Yesterday Parris Campbell commits to Ohio State over a UT offer.Then as icing on the cake, we poach their walk-on punter with a simple phone call.
Tennessee fans can't be happy with Ohio State right now.
Aaron Craft was also originally committed to UT until Bruce Pearl's over-zealous recruiting got himself canned. Craft later committed elsewhere.

tennbuckeye19's picture

I love how much the Penn State community suddenly despises Urban Meyer when they all believed he was going to be their next coach. I mean for most he was their top choice. And they were convinced he would replace Paterno. Now, they're acting like the guy is the devil.

KateUptonsLowerBack's picture

I'd do dirty things to Ke$ha.

RBuck's picture

Nice avatar.

Long live the southend.

Squirrel Master's picture

seriously? Kate Upton and Ke$ha makes you want to throw up?
I am at a lose for words!

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

Bucksfan's picture

Kate Upton?  Who said anything about Kate Upton?  You find those words you losed, you let me know STAT!

millertime2011's picture

Weird that the PSU article doesn't mention that OSU had the 4th highest APR in the country in 2012...2nd in the B1G, behind only Northwestern (1st in the country).

iBuckeye's picture

"our friends beyond the wall"
Game of Thrones reference while reading about my buckeyes. This is clearly the best site on the internet.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Christ - just when we were getting some peace and quiet from the PSU lunatics - this comes out and stirs them all up again! 

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MediBuck's picture

Oh, Penn State and BSD in particular: When will you ever stop whining as a primitive ego defense mechanism for failure? The least you can do is thank Urban for speaking the truth, rather than justify your impotent rage with hollow statements now justifying Jim Tressel, Bert Bielma, and *gasp* Joe Paterno.

Nittany please.

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes

DetroitBuckeye's picture

Maybe we will have a punter, who knows.