Monday Skull Session

By Jason Priestas on April 30, 2012 at 6:00a

If you punished yourself with a weekend of Berman (or were smart about it and switched to the NFL Network), you witnessed four Buckeyes selected in the latest installment of the NFL draft.

Tackle Mike Adams was snatched up in the 2nd round by the Steelers, the Texans took receiver DeVier Posey early in the 3rd, running back Boom Herron went to the Bengals in the 6th and special-teamer Nate Ebner (!!) was taken later in the 6th by New England.

What do the new natives think of the selections?

Pittsburgh fans are by and large high on the Adams pick, baggage and all. Steelers Depot sees Adams becoming part of a dominant line in the Steel City:

Now with the additions of Stanford guard David DeCastro and Ohio State tackle Mike Adams, the Steelers appear to have assembled an offensive line that will be a strength for many years.

Behind the Steel Curtain offers up the standard NFL fan opinion when it comes to amateur violations (Cliff Notes: LOL):

Just my opinion, but if you can sell a Big 10 championship ring for a grand, more power to you. I probably couldn't get a grand for my car, but it's mine. The ring was Adams'. It shouldn't be different.

Houston offensive coordinator Rick Dennison summed up Posey's three game senior season as a mistake:

"He made a mistake," Dennison said. "From the checkups that we all did, starting with (general manager) Rick (Smith) and myself, (wide receivers coach) Larry Kirksey, (head coach) Gary Kubiak, we all checked with whoever we could and felt pretty comfortable that it was a mistake he made... We thought we had a talent that was comparable to some of the guys that were taken a lot earlier."

Houston Diehards, like much of the Texan fan base, is taking a wait-and-see approach:

I love that Andre Johnson can take Posey under his wing, and had Posey played a full 2011 season, he may have had higher draft stock. He could turn out out to be a steal, or he could be just another guy.

Cincy Jungle, like Bengals fans in general, are absolutely giddy over the "A" their team received from the NFL Network, but the euphoria hasn't skewed their impression of Herron:

Herron will have a tough task of carving out a spot in the Bengals roster. The team's primary back is BenJarvus Green-Ellis and the third-down back is Brian Leonard. Herron will have to fight with Bernard Scott and Cedric Peerman for playing time and, in the end, the team will likely choose between Peerman and Herron.

Patriots fans, like Buckeye fans, are still trying to make sense of the Ebner selection:

For now, Ebner is a complete project who only has a role on special teams. However, very few would question his passion on the field. He looks like a practice squad player who could earn a spot as one of the last 5 on the roster if he beats out other purely special teams players. 

So, yeah, Nate Ebner heard his name called while the top-rated center prospect from the 2008 recruiting class will be trying to earn his way onto the Jaguars as an undrafted free agent.

Tackle J.B. Shugarts joins Brewster as an undrafted free agent, signing with the Browns, along with linebacker Andrew Sweat. The three won't have the odds on their side as only 28% of undrafted free agents make teams (though your odds are higher if you sign with Cleveland).

And so ends the run of the often perplexing Brew Crew. When you consider how touted this group once was as high school seniors, it's a pretty damning indictment of Jim Bollman. He signed three of the top offensive linemen in the nation as part of Ohio State's 2008 class and the NFL sees fit to draft just one of them. When you consider that Justin Boren was an all-conference selection as a sophomore in Ann Arbor only to ultimately get passed over in the draft as well, the evidence against Bollman is damning.

Nate Ebner, rugby starAll in all, Ebner had a pretty solid experience in Columbus

He's no longer our problem, thankfully, so I'm going to focus on the positives. They delivered three BCS bowls -- two of them wins -- and a whole lot of wins during their time in Columbus. I only wish things would have worked out a little better for them in the end.

WELL PLAYED, MAYANS. By now you're well aware of the fact that the first round passed without a Longhorn, Sooner, Hurricane, Seminole, Gator, Buckeye, Wolverine or Nittany Lion selected, but the blue bloods made up for their first night blankings in the later rounds.

In all, 253 players were selected (254 if you count Terrelle Pryor going in the previous summer's supplemental draft) and they came from everywhere:

You wouldn't have expected after the Thursday night, when the SEC placed an astounding nine first round selections to the Big Ten's four, but the two conferences finished one and two with 42 and 41 total picks, respectively. The ACC finished third with 31 selections (three in the first round), the Pac-12 fourth with 28 picks (four first-rounders) and the Big 12 fifth with 25 players drafted (five in the first).

Cincinnati Bearcats fans are making some noise about having a better draft than the Buckeyes, and for one year, at least, they have us. Next year should figure to be a much different story with John Simon, Nathan Williams, Jake Stoneburner, Travis Howard, Etienne Sabino (yeah, I went there) and Garrett Goebel (yeah, I went there, too) all exhausting eligibility and junior Johnathan Hankins a potential early exit.

The state of Ohio sent 17 former prep stars to the NFL via the draft:

  • Columbus (6): Isaiah Pead (Eastmoor/Cincinnati to St. Louis - 2nd), Mike Adams (Dublin Coffman/Ohio State to Pittsburgh - 2nd), John Hughes (Gahanna/Cincinnati to Cleveland - 3rd), B.J. Cunningham (Westerville South/Michigan State to Miami - 6th), Nate Ebner (Hilliard Davidson/Ohio State to New England - 6th) and Jeremy Ebert (Hilliard Darby/Northwestern to New England - 7th).
  • Cincinnati (4): Luke Kuechly (St. Xavier/Boston College to Carolina - 1st), Vinny Curry (Harmony Community/Marshall to Philadelphia - 2nd), DeVier Posey (La Salle/Ohio State to Houston - 3rd) and Greg Scruggs (St. Xavier/Louisville to Seattle - 7th).
  • Cleveland (2): Najee Goode (Benedictine/West Virginia to Tampa Bay - 5th) and Jordan White (North Ridgeville/Western Michigan to New York Jets - 7th).
  • Dayton (2): Jerel Worthy (Huber Heights Wayne/Michigan State to Green Bay - 2nd) and Zebrie Sanders (Northmont/Florida State to Buffalo - 5th).
  • Akron (1): Whitney Mercilus (Garfield/Illinois to Houston - 1st).
  • Lisbon (1): Derek Wolfe (Beaver/Cincinnati to Denver - 2nd)
  • Warren (1): Boom Herron (Harding/Ohio State to Cincinnati - 6th)

Hello, demographics. As recently as 15 years ago, it would not be uncommon at all to see Cincinnati and Cleveland way out in front with Columbus and suburban schools bringing up the rear.

And while I realize you can't take everyone and that some of these kids were overlooked before going on to develop in college, Ohio State offered just three of the 17 players selected from Ohio. With Urban Meyer's focus on national recruiting, we could be seeing more of this in the future.

TIM TEBOW DISCUSSES OHIO STATE. Six months ago, hearing Tebow talk triggered a gag reflex. My, how times have changed:

"I have to say I'm a fan of Ohio State University."

[via Buckeye House Call]

MATTA AND HIS BENCH. Bob Hunter caught up with former Buckeye hoopster Walter Offutt to discuss the transfer game, which impacts 40 percent of Division I freshman before their sophomore seasons:

"I had to look down the line and see how many years I would be able to show my talent," Offutt said. "It would probably have been just this year, and that would have been my last year. If it had been two, I would have stayed. I have no hard feelings against Coach Matta; he’s a great coach. But I had to really think about what’s best for me."

In the context of discussing the recent transfers of Jordan Sibert and J.D. Weatherspoon, Hunter implies that Offutt hints that he may have done things differently -- as in seeking a redshirt -- if he were given another chance.

Offutt's career took a few detours with the first stop at Ohio State and then a short stint at Wright State before settling in with the Ohio Bobcats and helping to lead them to a Sweet 16 run in the tournament.

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AcrossTheField11's picture

The Cincinnati inferiority complex thing makes me laugh every time.  That being said, I wish great success upon all the new NFL Buckeyes (maybe less success to Mike Adams when he plays Cleveland).  I could see Posey being very productive early. 

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

Normal Buck's picture

"Indictment of Jim Bollman" is precisely what I said to myself, when I saw that Brewster had not been drafted.

zbd's picture

I couldn't agree more.

sir rickithda3rd's picture


mark may wins douchebag of the year... again

buckz4evr's picture

I think a lot of the problem was Bollman, but after reading comments about what Mewhort had to say concerning his depression and not caring anymore because of what went on last year, I can see where his attitude was probably prevalent throughout a lot of the team.  I think it showed in how out of shape a lot of the players were.  Look what happened to Adams in his bench press and the comments Meyer made about the overall conditioning of the team.  I think the situation was 10x worse than any of us will ever know.

Maestro's picture

Really got caught up in the Brewster drama.  He will make a team.  He will have a decent career and he will forever be a great Buckeye.

vacuuming sucks

btalbert25's picture

I think Boom could be a very good pick for the Bengals.  Green-Ellis is the feature back for cryin out loud.  There is plently of opportunity for him to turn some heads in camp this summer. 

zbd's picture

Mike Adams hasn't done anything in 4 years and now he's going to turn it on?  Now he smokes weed and does't work out before the draft?  I'm failing to see any desire.

Maestro's picture

Actually he did plenty when he played.  People like to ignore his accomplishments because of the huge expectations of a 5-star grade, but he was All Big Ten the past 2 years.  

vacuuming sucks

Northbrook's picture

He has loads of talent just like Pryor. Unfortunately he was a problem child off the field, just like Pryor. I wish him well but I'm glad he's gone.
I'm hopeful we will have less of that type of player now that Urban is in charge. I know they had plenty of this under Urban at Fla but I'm hopeful Urban learned a lesson. If the Foster situation is as reported it is a good sign.

Squirrel Master's picture

I still blame alot of the line woes on 1. Bollman and 1A. Shugarts. They both screwed the pooch!

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

Northbrook's picture

On field problems I usually blame on the coaching but Shugarts problem needs a shrink IMO. Off field is on the player.

GABuckeye's picture

When Adams came back, the running game got tremendously better.

Squirrel Master's picture

It is kind of hard to play any of the offensive line positions when you have JB false starting 5 times a game. I think Brewster, Adams and Boren should each get at least a 5 points bonus to their grading for that. Sorry but what are the browns thinking with Shugarts!
I'd like to meet this guy GUS! Sounds like a real party animal! They even had to designate a person to watch him. Awesome!

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Maybe the Browns have a fail safe system for preventing false starts.  They'll probably send him to boot camp for a month so he can learn the difference between Hut 1, Hut 2, Hut 3!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Buckeyeneer's picture

A shock collar seems to work on my dog . . . . . .

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

Northbrook's picture

Nothing yet on Trubisky? Hmmmm.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

OT: rumor is Lewis Neal is backing off his commitment to Ohio State - that he'd been wowed by Urbz and the bright lights, but that when we went back home to grandma in NC, she laid down the law and insistted that he stay closer to home. Supposedly, he's back in pay in play for Clemson, UNC, ECU.  

FortMeyer's picture

Could be somewhat worried about depth at his position. Also, he spent some time asking everyone what was being said about his commitment to OSU via twitter which seemed strange.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Neal said on twitter earlier in the week that multiple schools came to his high school this week to see his track practice, to see him work-out, etc. This was after he had verballed to OSU. It wouldn't surprise me if a school closer to him swoops in and gets him to decommit. 

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

I am really not sure how I feel about Tebow anymore!  Obviously while at Florida, it was easy to dislike the kid for being part of the team that beat down my beloved Buckeyes that day out here in the desert!  The constant and at times nauseating coverage the kid got also elevated him up on my dislike meter.  After college, it seemed that the media just turned on him and he garnered a ton of criticism about how bad a QB he was and he'd never get drafted and/or play QB in the NFL.  I don't think I've ever seen more people jumping on one person's back with such veracity.  Astoundingly, he got drafted in the first round which did nothing but heighten the noise surrounding him.  We all know what happened last year at Denver.  His play at Denver and his response to the mass amount of sh!t people lumped on him most certainly altered my perspective about him.  This is a kid that has done nothing wrong to anybody, has never been involved in off the field trouble, has never done anything decisive on the field or in the locker room, and outside of the god boy stuff, is pretty much a great guy trying to prove his critics wrong.  I most certainly don't consider myself a fan of Timmy, but I have to say, I like his moxy and positive, can do attitude!!!
Who is this Jim Bollman guy you speak of?

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Irricoir's picture

I hate the word Moxy! Never use it again.

I agree with everything you said about Tebow, partner. Great write up.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Hey, there's MyGroin. I was wondering where I left it. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

But then there's the alternative viewpoint: that we cannot allow usurpers like Moxie to forever ruin a useful word like moxie. Take back ownership of the M word, strip it of its power to irritate, and then return the word back to its rightful owners.

Denny's picture

In the time it took me to write this comment, the above picture threw three interceptions.


Arizona_Buckeye's picture

HA - even though I used the term moxy!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

Buckeyeneer's picture

The irony of a poor draft showing means that you didn't lose a lot of talent to the NFL and have more veteran players, so it is with mixed emotions that I watched this draft. That said, in a different year without all the distractions, Posey and Adams were probably 1st rounders or at least Posey would have been a 2nd rounder as well.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

THE Ohio State University

The_Lurker's picture

"Pittsburgh fans are by and large high on the Adams pick"

What you did there. I see it.

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Puff puff pass!  Repeat!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

pcon258's picture

does anyone know the context of the osu comments from tebow? i couldn't really gather why he was talking about osu from bhc.
but yea, im not a big fan of tebow, but i hold nothing against him; he's done a great job of not telling reporters to f*ck off

tennbuckeye19's picture

Tebow made appearances in Ohio at a couple Christian colleges, one in Circleville, one in Cincinnati. I'm not sure which one the video was from, but he was in Ohio, so of course his comments were well-received.

Bucksfan's picture

Yeah, you can tell he's praticing for his future in running for public office.

Irricoir's picture

Born and raised outside of Circleville. I am sure nobody cares but glad to see home in print on this site.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

tennbuckeye19's picture

Yeah man, gotta love some RoundTown. I grew up in Lancaster and used to go to the Pumpkin Show every year. Good times.

TatumRuled's picture

So when he's at Bland Arbor, is he gonna say: "I have to say I'm a fan of the University of Mich..." I can't finish it.

"Hell, Woody didn't recruit me; he recruited my mother!" -Jack Tatum                       

tennbuckeye19's picture

He very well could, since he is a man of the people and all, and he's a smart guy who can play to a crowd. But he is still very close with Urban and I think he would be a 'fan' of wherever Urban coaches. 

RedStorm45's picture

As much as Bollman is to blame, that entire 2008 class was a disappointment (drafts pending for Stoneburner, Williams, etc.).  Bollman didn't work with the guys on defense or 5 star wideout Posey.  Obviously he botched the work with the O-Line guys, but that was one of the highest rated recruiting classes ever at OSU and no 1st rounders as of yet.  I believe 4 or 5 5-star guys.  And there's only 1 way to snap a ball (Bollman or no Bollman)...Brewster had trouble with that his senior year.