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Wednesday Skull Session

Happy hump day boys and girls and welcome to the latest installment of Skull Session.

I know a fraction of you expressed angst over the fact we've gone to a standard logo (despite its ultra-heady freshness) but I'm hoping that concern will be alleviated with the news that Pam has reportedly gotten said logo tatted and will be showing it off as she thrusts brownies into your collective mouths at the event of the century, Eat Too, Brutus, on October 29th.

If you're a thirsty donor, you can even wash that brownie down with your choice of Coke, Pepsi, Shasta1 or a shot of Brush Fire sauce via the fine folks at City Barbecue.

Hell, you can even pretend you are back in the little league baseball days and order a suicide. Delish.

Pat Haden isn't afraid to hide his lemming ways. Like virtually every other non-OSU fan with any level of interest in sports, USC AD Pat Haden became the latest to apparently have an issue with separating fact from fiction when it comes to the OSU case in general and certainly no ability to accurately compare the situations that unfolded at both schools.

Trying to carefully choose his words at the PAC-10 media day, Haden made it pretty easy to read between the lines:

"They know a lot more than I do, so it's dangerous for me to say, 'Are you kidding me?''" Haden said at Pacific 12 Conference Media Day, adding that Ohio State will have its hearing before the NCAA on Aug. 12. "It will be interesting to see what comes out of that."

I dunno. I guess, "are you kidding me?" is a fair question. As in, "Pat Haden is an AD and made a comment like that? Are you kidding me?"

Still Pat wasn't done sounding foolish. When asked if he thought other schools had learned from USC about how not to effectively deal with the NCAA, he added:

"You can always learn from others -- how some schools have done it well and how some schools have not done it well, so I'm sure everybody has looked at the way we handled the situation and made their own determination that they’re going to do it similarly or take a different tack."

Uh...I'm pretty sure everyone has made the determination they'll take a different tack. Thanks for the anti-blueprint, Mike Garrett and company. Oh, and enjoy the Lane Kiffin Era, I know the rest of us are.

Nate Oliver is a linebacker. This according to Buckeye safety (and according to his Twitter profile, actor) Zach Domicone, who is now openly recruiting for the safetybacker position.

Oliver, a senior, has seen action here and there, but has not been able to find his way onto the field on a regular basis. There's a chance Dorian Bell won't play a down this season and Jonathan Newsome is perpetually on the verge of leaving the program, so Oliver will see plenty of reps in August.

Is anyone sober in South Carolina? Typically, alcohol related news out of the Gamecock camp is reserved for QB Stephen Garcia but the sloshy quarterback recently reinstated to the SC football team has a partner in the drunk tank in QB coach G.A. Mangus.

Standing in the wet spot, Mangus, 42, was observed by Greenville PD taking a leak in the street while using a railing to steady his buzzed up jelly-legs. I'm not meaning to throw stones -  I'm sure most of us have been there - but hopefully our transgressions occurred at a much younger age.

Having observed him as "unsteady on his feet" with eyes that were "dilated and glazed over" in addition to his failure to provide "straight answers" as to what he had been up to, police charged Mangus with nuisance conduct.

With little choice in the matter, Spurrier announced Mangus is suspended indefinitely which I think means he can only pee on the side of his house until he pays a fine and is reinstated.

Dane was nails. He will be sorely missed.

So, I guess I'm a Bears fan now. Despite the disappointment of not seeing him drafted, it was great to see that Dane Sanzenbacher basically had his choice of which team he wanted to try and make upon being sought after by 25 of 32 NFL teams.

In typically intelligent fashion, Dane chose the Chicago Bears for reasons not of the dead presidents variety.

Forgoing a $20k signing bonus offered by at least one other team, Dane weighed his options and determined Chicago gave him the best opportunity to stick with a team long term thanks to a thin corps of receivers and his perceived ability to be a natural fit in Mike Martz' offense.

That logic certainly sounds, well, logical but there are no guarantees at the next level. Hopefully, Dane can carve out a niche in Chicago as a cerebral, fearless, dependable receiver in Martz' system and become a favored target of Jay Cutler.

Dane wasn't alone in going the UDFA route as Brandon Saine signed with Green Bay, Bryant Browning and Jake McQuaide went to St. Louis, Justin Boren to Baltimore, Devon Torrence inked with the Vikings and Dexter Larimore joined the Saints. Good luck to all these Buckeyes as they fight to make rosters.

The Dougies. With the B1G deciding not to hold coaches and media voting this year for preseason POY's and conference champions, the Plain Dealer gives you a little taste asking 24 conference writers to weigh in on a few topics including best coach, players of the year and which teams will win their respective divisions.

The first category is Best Coach. Since the best coach is no longer employed, there's no decisive winner though Bret Bielema emerged victorious. How sad is the current roster of B1G coaches? Bielema won out despite just a 27-13 conference record in five seasons with one championship. Here's the full breakdown. Note 1st place votes are in parenthesis, then total points.

  1. Bielema (7), 35
  2. Ferentz (6), 31
  3. Pelini (3), 30
  4. Fitzgerald (4), 27
  5. Dantonio (4), 18

Geesh. Who would you take? I think I'd take Fitzgerald. After Fickell, of course.

Picking the division winners was a breeze with Wisconsin and Nebraska the decisive choices. Meanwhile, offensive and defensive POY selections were also clear cut with Denard and Jared Crick taking top honors. John Simon was the highest ranked Buckeye, finishing sixth.

Smorgas-bored. Bacon sculptures would be cooler but it's the fair so you gotta temper expectations... A melting dog... The Flaming C movie trailer... Can't think of a caption but wanted to share.

  • 1 As this event will take place on campus, there will be no alcoholic beverages. The fine folks from Buckeye Vodka and Oval Brewing Company will be on hand, however, to ahem... educate you on their products.

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Abe Froman's picture
Abe Froman on 27 July 2011 - 5:35am #

Maybe a Bacon Explosion would be appropriate?  Not one to add links, feel free to look it up.

Good to see Dane and the others get the FA signings as a chance is always better than the alternative.  I had a good friend who played 13 years in the league after a FA signing back in the early 90's (long snapper), so there is always a chance.

Abe Froman

"The Sausage King of Chicago"

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AcrossTheField11 on 27 July 2011 - 7:40am #

I have a feeling Bama's about to get shat upon...

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/photos-ingram-heisman-tie-to-booster-suita...

BTW, Congrats Dane...

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

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BuckeyeSki on 27 July 2011 - 7:51am #

Linking SportsbyBrooks?! Blasphemy!

You win with people (not named Joe Bauserman)

@BadNewsBrownell

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AcrossTheField11 on 27 July 2011 - 8:15am #

Lol... yeah I guess.  Its an interesting read though.  Nice to see something non-osu related hitting the web. 

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

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The_Lurker on 27 July 2011 - 8:57am #

If Brooks says it, it must be true might be true has a 1% chance of being true because even a blind squirrel finds a few nuts.

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millertime2011 on 27 July 2011 - 8:31am #

wish the browns got dane

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RBuck Mod on 27 July 2011 - 8:34am #

Yeah, he'd fit in pretty good with them probably switching to a west coast offense.

"It's just another case of there you are"....Doc (RIP)

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes on 27 July 2011 - 9:08am #

I saw some Twitter chat last night about Pac10 commish Larry Scott calling NCAA president Marc Emmert regarding the tOSU summary and being told by Emmert "misperception in media about the finality" and that the NCAA could still tack on more penalites.

Why is the NCAA prez talking to anyone outside of tOSU about tOSU?

You got 30 minutes..30 minutes, fight hard, prepare hard, and it comes down now the way it should in a BCS game..the way it should..good ass teams, two good ass teams for over 30 minutes..does everyone understand?

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RBuck Mod on 27 July 2011 - 9:23am #

If that's true than I am real pissed. Pretty classless lobbying for another school in another conference to get hammered because of their premier school's transgressions and lack of cooperation.....and, the NCAA for even responding.

"It's just another case of there you are"....Doc (RIP)

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original buckeye on 27 July 2011 - 9:49am #

Exactly.  The NCAA should've responded to the Pac-10 commissioner as follows:  "There will be no lobbying, sir.  You'll find out when everybody else does.  *click*" 

And the person delivering that message should've been a secretary, not anyone high up at the NCAA.

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Buckeyebrowny919 on 27 July 2011 - 9:51am #

Is it just me, maybe being a homer, or is the rest of the world really that blinded to the hate and attention Ohio State recieves compared to all other institutions. Shit..our situation happened 8 effin months ago and they are still reporting on it today. How many teams have had infractions or hearings since then and barely see the light of day? aaaalso being worse than ours but not seeming as bad b/c of the attention we get

"I'm about to make it rain up in this biiiiiiitch" - Urban Meyer

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Is it Saturday Yet on 27 July 2011 - 10:54am #

I wonder the same thing.  Although homerism is rumored to be fast spreading and seriously contagious.  I would like Mike & Mike, SI, Foxsports, Cowherd, someone who gets lots of listeners to break down our situation like a competent, sane person.  Maybe Gene Smith needs to go on Mike & Mike and answer some questions and comment on where we are.  If he can't (NCAA) legally do it, then someone representing our school who isn't employed by ESPN or something.

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NeARBuckeye on 27 July 2011 - 9:54am #

Why is he bothering bringing us up? Last I checked Oregon had it's fire alarms go off.

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Matt Mod on 27 July 2011 - 9:48am #

Emmert is former president of University of Washington (2004-2010).  Not surprised that he is cozy with Scott.

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Buckeye in Athens Mod on 27 July 2011 - 9:59am #

There's something wrong with the NCAA when we have to be pessimistic about actually getting a fair and judicious punishment and when we have to doubt the NCAA's initial reports because they might just change their minds. 

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AcrossTheField11 on 27 July 2011 - 11:33am #

This all kinda seems kinda stupid.  There are only a couple weeks between now and the hearing, the NCAA isn't on campus anymore.  What more could come out, and what further charges could be levied.  Did they not explicitly say that there was not enough in what happened to warrant a FTM or LOIC.  They'd look twice as bad for changing their tune IMO. 

Even if this conversation was had between Scott and Emmert, chances are, it was a result of Emmert trying to placate Scott or just get him off the phone.  I don't see any way more charges could be levied between now and Aug 12th unless they bring the dogs back to campus.

Anyone know if there's some sort of double jeopardy rule in the NCAA, so we can be sure that the outcome of this hearing on August 12 will be the end of all this crap?

Time and change will surely show how firm they friendship... O-HI-O.

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Bucks on 27 July 2011 - 11:37am #

I have no idea in regards to the double jeopardy. I will say that if I'm not mistaken, it isn't abnormal to have additional information released in regards to violations only when the final punishments are released. It was something brought up to me by a guy with double my football years so I guess I tend to trust what he's saying, just can't think of any case I followed through to conclusion.

With the language of the summary & what we now know though, there just aren't any severe sanctions on the horizon. Unfortunately, the more I think of it, the more I am concerned with the ability to look at us as a repeat offender. While I don't think the NCAA will choose to go down that road, they do have the levity with that to tack on some minor extras.

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Rfahncke on 27 July 2011 - 11:04am #

N o

C onsistancy

A t

A ll

 

Except for being inconcistant that is. 

Long Live "The Vest".

Ethan's picture
Ethan on 27 July 2011 - 11:24am #

There's only "a chance" that Bell doesn't play this year? I thought he was suspended for the season?? Has that not been verified?? 

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Jason Staff on 27 July 2011 - 12:48pm #

It's pretty much assumed that he won't play this year, but at the same time, the university hasn't really made it official yet.

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O - H - I - O on 27 July 2011 - 1:45pm #

How does Bielema have a Championship? If tOSU vacates its wins last year, wouldn't that mean that MSU is the outright Champions of the Big Ten? Because if tOSU would have lost to Shhhigan (like that was possible under The Senator) MSU would have won outright, now that it is like we did not play wouldn't MSU take the title and ultimately SCREW wisCANTsin?

 

"Because I couldn't go for three"

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bucknut24 on 27 July 2011 - 8:25pm #

I have been reading this blog for a little while now and I am always impressed with the content and responses so I decided to sign up today so I can contribute.  I feel as a whole the media doesn't really care about what harm they cause Ohio State and it makes me sick.  I have been amazed the level the reporters stoop to in order to put Ohio State in a bad light.  Even when we do the right thing they try to spin it to make it look bad.  When August 12th rolls around I hope the NCAA accepts what punishment we have already given to ourselves becasue that is more than any of the schools have given up.  It's funny how the media clamered for Tressel's head but yet no one is asking for LSU's, UNC's GT, ect coaches to step down.  I have been a fan my whole life and I have never seen this kind of bias.  On another note I hope Wisc gets screwed out of last years B10 title to because I hate them as much as Michigan.  Can't wait for the season to start so we can go 12-0.

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bucknut24 on 27 July 2011 - 9:08pm #

Wow, Butch Davis out at UNC and nothing on Sports Center amazing!

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GoBucks713 on 27 July 2011 - 9:15pm #

The MLS All-Star game will get more coverage than Butch Davis' firing. As long as he doesn't go back to the Browns, I'll be happy.

 

Next Stop, UFL!!

"We all understand that change is inevitable, it's growth that's optional. And we believe that this is a time for growth for all of us." The Ohio State University Head Coach Luke Fickell

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NoVA Buckeye on 27 July 2011 - 11:59pm #

at least we made the p(l)ayoffs with him

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