Sugar Bowl Preview: #6 Ohio State vs #8 Arkansas

By Jason Priestas on January 4, 2011 at 6:00a
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The urgency of 0-9 was palpable at the pep rally held for fans yesterday at the Morial Convention Center in New Orleans. Gordon Gee touched on it. Gene Smith brought it up. Tressel went out of his way to stress the importance of being loud tonight in the dome.

To end the curse, it will take a group effort: the players, the coaches, the band and the fans all willing themselves or their team to a win over the Arkansas Razorbacks in the 77th Sugar Bowl.

The outcome wasn't so kind to us on our list trip to New Orleans, but this Razorback team, while good, is not on the same level as the LSU team the Buckeyes faced in 2008. Meanwhile, OSU has a bit of its swag back, having won 17 of their last 18 outings including last year's Rose Bowl triumph over Oregon, the last time the Ducks lost.

It's the Big Ten and the SEC going head-to-head again and while the results from the 1st weren't pretty, in truth, Ohio State is the only Big Ten team that's consistently built to go toe-to-toe with the nation's elite teams. Tonight, they'll find out if they're built well enough.


In interviews this week, Jim Tressel admitted to feeling happy when Ryan Mallett left Michigan for Arkasnas and not because he thought the quarterback would have a better career playing for the offensive-minded Bobby Petrino. Now, he's "being punished for that terrible thought" as Mallett represents the best signal caller OSU will face in over two years. At 6-6, he has the height to see over defensive lines and does so to distribute the ball to a talented corps of receivers, and the nation's best tight end.

Mallett's 3,592 yards are the product of nine 300-yard games (including two 400-yard performances) and his body of work lacks any real blemishes. In the loss to Alabama, he was picked off three times, but finished with 357 yards against one of the better defensive minds in the game in Nick Saban. In Arkansas' other loss, to Auburn, Mallett was knocked out of the game with a first half concussion, but his backup, redshirt sophomore Tyler Wilson (#8) picked up the slack, finishing with over 300 yards in a little over two quarters of play.

His primary target for most of the season, Greg Childs, was injured against Vanderbilt in late October and lost for the season, but juniors Jarius Wright (#4) and Joe Adams (#3) and sophomore Cobi Hamilton (#11) will more than stress the Buckeye secondary. Wright and Adams are smallish (5-10 and 5-11, respectively) but have great speed and will stretch the field, while Hamilton is a larger option (6-3/209) that is as comfortable working underneath as he is running posts. All you need to know about him is that he had an 80 and 85-yard touchdown against LSU. In the second quarter.

When things are covered downfield, Mallett will look for Mackey Award winner D.J. Williams (#45). The senior with a bouncer's physique (6-2/251) will be targeted a half dozen times (or more if the Buckeye defense loses track of him) and will catch everything in his vicinity before punishing would-be tacklers for attempting to bring him down.

Knile Davis: Averaging 6.6 per carryKnile Davis: 6.6 per carry

As if the Family Arm isn't enough to contend with, the Hogs feature an emerging star in sophomore running back Knile Davis (#7). His size (6-0/220) and speed (a supposed 4.37 clocked in the 40) conjure images of Darren McFadden and his finish to the season leaves no doubt of his capabilities. On the way to 1,183 yards in the regular season, his totals in the last six games read: 176, 82, 110, 182, 187, and 152 (against LSU). Davis is good for a couple of receptions a game, but sophomore Ronnie Wingo Jr. (#20) is the back to key on in third-and-long situations. Still, he shouldn't be targeted more than four or five times tonight.

Tackle DeMarcus Love (#65) is the star of a cohesive offensive line that started all 12 games together this season and allowed just a tad more sacks per game than the Ohio State line gave up (2.0 to 1.8) though an argument can certainly be made that Arkansas faced better defensive fronts over the course of the season. Love, a redshirts senior and two year captain, will line up at right and left tackle, opposite the tight end and is the best offensive lineman Mallett has seen since his days playing alongside Jake Long in Ann Arbor. Chris Klenakis brought with him some of the run-blocking knowledge he acquired at Nevada and clearly has his unit firing on all cylinders. Hog Database does a good job diving into some of the tendencies of the line in more detail here

With so much love being directed toward the Razorback offense, it's easy to overlook the defense, which played well this season outside of the 65 points Cam Newton and Auburn dropped on them. The line features a pair of defensive ends that deliver great production in redshirt junior Jake Bequette (#91) and senior Demario Ambrose (#58). Bequette was a 2nd team All-SEC selection after finishing fourth in the league with seven sacks and both he and Ambrose have great size (6-5 each, with appropriate mass) that not only enable them to bat down passes at the line, but also bring down the likes of large quarterbacks like Pryor without help. In passing situations, look for redshirt sophomore Tenarius Wright (#43) to come on and provide speed on the edge.

At linebacker, Arkansas features two additional weapons in redshirt junior Jerry Franklin (#34) senior Leon Anthony (#1). Franklin is stout (241 lbs) while Anthony is a bit smaller, but naturally quicker. Both will attempt to disrupt things in the Buckeye backfield and their TFL numbers for the season (12.5 and 10.5, respectively) merit attention. Linebacker/safety hybrid Jerico Nelson (#31), a junior, will play a role similar to how Tyler Moeller is utilized by the Buckeyes. He is rangy enough in coverage, but has the strength to fight through blockers when blitzing.

Junior safety Tramain Thomas (#5) is basically Orhian Johnson all growns up: good size, great speed and he appropriately loves all of his talents. He'll be flanked by senior Rudell Crim (#4) at the other safety spot and corners Darius Winston (#21) and Isaac Madison (#6). Sophomore Winston has decent size (6-0/185) and is a former prep USA Today All-American, but he is a first year starter and he was criticized in the past for being "soft" on the field, so you have to like Posey and Sanzenbacher's chances with him. Madison, on the other hand, is a junior, and started 11 games as a sophomore, but lost all of 2009 with an ACL injury. From a coverage standpoint, Arkansas will likely play a lot of quarters with some man mixed in, but it won't be anything that will throw Pryor or the OSU offense off as they're used to seeing it.

The Razorbacks feature a pair of youngsters in their kicking game. Punter Dylan Breeding (#14), a sophomore from Hoover (AL) has been more than solid, averaging over 42 yards per punt on 45 attempts this season, while freshman kicker Zach Hocker (#18) has been spectacular, going 13/16 on field goals (including an impressive 5/7 from 40+) and banging in all 55 extra points he's attempted. Wide receiver Adams is the punt return guy and he's 4th in the nation with 17.9 per return and a touchdown on the year. As if you needed something else to worry about.

Buckeye Breakdown

The question on everyone's mind is how the four key contributors from the offense, embroiled in Tatgate, will respond in the Sugar Bowl. I'm of the mindset that all of that flies out the window after first contact, so I don't necessarily see it becoming an issue in this game. Of course, we do have a quarterback that will be playing with a Herbstreit-ian chip on his shoulder, so that could cause problems if he attempts to do to much, but the gameplan will (hopefully) prevent him from putting too much on his shoulders.

As for that gameplan, Ohio State's MO in these games is not a secret. Most every team they face is held to season lows in points as Tresselball works its magic. Expect more of the same tonight as OSU will look to establish the running game early in an attempt to keep Mallett on the sidelines where he's of no danger of crushing your will to live with 80-yard bombs. I say that, but we also thought that was the plan heading into the Rose Bowl last season and Pryor came out slinging it. So, I guess we could see a little bit of both early as Tressel/Bollman look to achieve balance, while trending towards Boom getting on track. If Ohio State is successful with the running game early, look for Jerico Nelson to see his snaps diminish as the Hogs beef up in an attempt to stop it.

The line will have its hands full with Bequette, but a prep course of Kerrigan, Watt and Clayborn helps tremendously. And this Buckeye line is clicking right now, so SEC team or not, I like the thought of them holding up well all night. Tressel will take his chances down the field against the greenish Arkansas corners, but expect that to be the exception and not the norm as throwing the ball (or scoring too quickly) stops the clock and gets Mallett back onto the field.

Rolle and Homan FTWROLLE + HOMAN = FTW

By now, Mallett has likely seen everything a defense will throw at him. He carved Alabama up (in a losing effort), so he'll definitely get his yards against a Buckeye secondary that let Scott Tolzien have its way with them. The pups are coming of age, however, and with 30+ days to prepare, I trust Heacock/Fickell will have something special cooked up to at least slow down the Arkansas passing game. Mallett is also guilty of thinking he can do more with the ball than he sometimes should, and his 11 interceptions this year bear witness to that. If OSU can confuse him -- even just a little -- with coverage looks and zone blitzes, they will likely get one (or more) of their own tonight. If they can get sustained pressure through the Arkansas line, we're going to have a fun night. If we sit back in a zone and don't get to Mallett, however, you will feel the opposite of fun.

The linebackers will certainly have their hands full, what with accounting for Davis running the ball and Williams slipping out underneath. Homan and Rolle are two guys that have been through the wars, and experience at this position, like they have, will help tremendously. We won't shut those two down altogether, but Davis will not be going off for 150+ against this Buckeye defense.

Typically, a Jim Tressel team has a special teams advantage, but the Razorbacks will have the edge in that department tonight. Oh well, we've dealt with a gap there all season, so it's not worth worrying about now.

Monkey tossed (but it won't be easy): Ohio State 27, Arkansas 24



buckeyedude's picture

The scary thing is this is probably the 3rd best team in the SEC.

So you think it's going to be more Tresselball than what we saw in the Rose Bowl last year Jason? The OSU offensive line better have a good night, or we'll be in trouble. It'd be nice to see Boom get at least 5 or 6 yds. on 1st down.

I just pray the Tat-gate 5/6  Buckeyes are focused on this game. Go Bucks.



Arkansas Buckeye's picture

This game will be won in the trenches and coaching preparation.  I am hoping we establish the running game and learn from Wiskey's mistakes of getting away from what one does well.   

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

EJ's picture

due to awful planning, i'm going to be flying during the game tonight.  Any of you know of a way to watch the bowl game on the internet?  I'd try to use the inflight internet obviously. 

BuckeyeChief's picture

Gamecast on ESPN, justintv or another site I will try to link from home...


"Damn I miss El Guapo"

BuckeyeChief's picture

That's the one...couldn't remember.


"Damn I miss El Guapo"

The_Lurker's picture

It's only 8:50 a.m. here in the east, I've been at work for over an hour, and I already can't concentrate on anything work-related. I am going to be a basket case for the next 12 hours.

RoweTrain's picture

I agree with that 100%.

O-H Kee Pa's picture

Also agree. I feel like I'm going to throw up.

The_Lurker's picture

I too feel the nausea of nervousness caused by a frantic and desperate hope that we can turn this 0-9 thing into 1-9 tonight. Just the look on Mark May's face alone would be a priceless gift.

buckeye33's picture

Tough decision.....Sullinger & Diebler vs Pryor & Herron ? 

The_Lurker's picture

That's why God created DVR.

blazers34's picture

lol, not even remotely tough.  sugar bowl vs......iowa.  i still dont understand matta's reasoning behind not moving the game

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

he wanted to give the fans something to watch if the game got ugly?

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

I so want to be home in Ohio watching this game tonight. 

I hid my wife's Razorback jersey this morning so she could not wear it today.

It could get ugly.

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

buckeye33's picture

If it gets ugly....hide your razor !!!!!!!

TLB's picture

Tuesday Night Game SUCKS!

Matt's picture

I have a bad feeling about this game.  The balanced Hog attack is going to keep our defense on its toes and constantly in the bend-don't-break mode.  I don't think we'll be attacking Mallet with enough frequency and effectivness to disrupt his passing game and he will distribute the ball to a variety of recievers and backs with relative ease.  I worry that the lack of depth on our defensive line will cause us to lose the battle in the trenches in the fourth quarter, if not sooner.  I think our offense will do reasonably well because our offensive line will show up, but we'll get behind early in the game and I can see TP pressing to prove his worth to the world, especially given that he has been under attack in the press as of late.  I expect TP to play with jitters and force some throws.  I think we lose the turnover margin 2-1.  Toss in the off-the-field distractions, and I don't see the Buckeyes getting the 0-9 SEC monkey off their backs. 

I have it at:  Arkansas 37 -- Ohio State 24.

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Well then don't be spreadin your bad juju on the board today.  We need all good thoughts.

I have faith that JT's bowl experience is the edge.  My worry is Arkansas' quick defensive linemen and defensive backs that are faster than TP usually sees.  But we shall overcome.

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

The_Lurker's picture

Defense's job tonight:

Must. Force. Field Goals.

Buckeye in Athens's picture

At least Jeff Dooley's eliminator (insider) thinks we'll "handle Arkansas nicely"

flipbuckeye's picture

Ok, I officially have gameday jitters.  Fearful of another blowout and drowning myself to the serenade of S-E-C chants by the 3rd quarter.

I see both teams being able to move the ball on each other, but OSU will have its droughts while Arky will continue to get theirs (much like the Miami game).  So (much like the Miami game) the turnover margin will decide the winner.  Our defense has to force turnovers.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I thought tatgate would eliminate some of my emotions from this game but it hasn't.  If anything it has probably amplified them.  I really want this team to win.  I really want TP to step up and dominate and articulate some humility at the end of the game so much so that even Bruce Hooley becomes fan.  I want Dane to shine and seriously increase his draft stock in this game.  I want Tress to get his 4th or 5th(?) BCS win in his 6th straight BCS appearence.  I want the seniors on this team to go out with a huge W and do something that no other Buckeye has, beat an SEC team in a Bowl Game. 

I was pondering focusing more on the basketball game tonight in hopes to take some of the stress out of watching this game.  I was watching Stanford last night and I looked over at my wife and told her that I wish I could watch tomorrow's game this relaxed.

Go Bucks!

O-H Kee Pa's picture

"I wish I could watch tomorrow's game this relaxed."

That's a funny joke.

Bucksfan's picture

CFN isn't giving us much of a chance.

I mean, this isn't the anemic offense that we saw in 2008, and even in 2009.  The attack is sharper and more inspired this year.  The defense is very efficient.  While they may not get substantial pressure on Mallet every down, the corners are excellent.

People are pointing to the Wisconsin game as the only game against a quality opponent.  Well, even though they lost the Rose Bowl, that Wisconsin team's running backs weren't stopped in any game including against TCU - even had 150 or so against Michigan State.  This Arkansas team bears very little resemblance to Wisconsin.  Ohio State's special teams coverage and kicking game has improved since then, too.  Just as Bielema had a brain fart by putting the ball in Tolzein's hands...Tressel had the same brain fart in Madison, when Boom Herron didn't touch the ball until the 2nd quarter.

So, I don't know what's going to happen.  I have a bad feeling about it like a lot of people.

It's over a month since the season ended, both teams are different than they were.  It's a 1-game season.  Hopefully the Buckeyes finally live up to all that talent and are ready to roll.

O-H Kee Pa's picture

I agree that we're at a much different point now than the Wisconsin game. However, Arkansas' 6'5'', 315 pound (average) line bears a lot of resemblance to Wisconsin.

RoweTrain's picture

Size of players doesn't neccesarily equate to relative skills of players.  Pryor and Mallett are both 6'6'' but no one compares their throwing skills, everyone agrees that Mallett is the much better passer (rightfully so).  If the D comes out tonight and gets manhandled by Arkansas' line like they did in Madison then these types of comparisons can be made.  I remember our line with Boone, Rhering, etc. being pretty large as well but we all know how that worked out. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Good points. In my estimation, Wisc. has the best power run blocking OL in CFB. In addition to Wisc's run blocking technique and talent probably being at a higher level than Ark's OL, I'm inclined to believe that Wisc's OLmen tend to carry about 15 to 25 lbs per man, on average, more than Ark's OLmen. As we know, the hts & wts listed on depth charts can be manipulated . . . errr, "out of date."

One theory is that Ohio State's defense has been retooled in recent years in such a way that it is now very effective against quick spread attacks but more vulnerable against elite big power atttacks. It's possible that Ark's OL could be just as good, in its own ways, as Wisc's and yet give Ohio State's front 7 fewer (match up) problems. We'll find out tonight, I guess.

741's picture

741's fearless forecast: OSU 31, Arkansas 25. Pryor: 15/25 passing, 2 TD passing, 1 TD rushing, 1 INT. Mallett: 19/30, 2 TD passing, 2 pt conversion, 2 INT, (one returned for a TD).

RBuck's picture

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SEC Cheaters         31

BTN is showing the 1997 Rose Bowl game at 3:00 followed up by the 2010 Rose Bowl at 6:00 for a warmup.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

btalbert25's picture

I remain pretty positive about this game.  No doubt Arkansas is really good, but I think the Buckeyes are too.  I'm not terribly concerned about Michigan State, Michigan, or Penn State's bowl games as they have nothing to do with this one, but I have to wonder if those outcomes are why people are a little extra nervous today.  Alabama is really good, honestly, probably the best team in the SEC, and the finally showed up for a game.  Michigan is freakin terrible and I think most of us knew that already.  Penn State and Florida was a horrible game with mediocre to bad teams F'ing up every chance they got. 

Those games have no bearing on this one.  They were bad matchups where the favored team won.  I think the seniors come out and play unbelievable.  I think a guy like Hankins or Howard have a big time coming out party, and I think the Tat 5 play wit a chip on their shoulder.  In the end Buckeyes take em down, and end the 0-9 skid.  

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

I can't speak for everyone else, but the B1G's poor showing against SEC teams added to my stress levels for this game and on top of that you have the team that beat us, rather convincingly mind you, losing to TCU.  Mix in some tatgate and a sprinkle of Tress is leaving rumors and voila, I'm stressed.  Not to mention our SEC history and the fact that Arkansas looks like a very legit football team.

btalbert25's picture

I guess I just wasn't too shocked by the outcomes of the other games on New Years Day.  Maybe Wisconsin, but they did lose to the number 3 team in America so there's that.  I understand the nervousness, but I think people are looking too much into the New Years Day results.  It really has no bearing on how the Buckeyes will handle Arkansas.

O-H Kee Pa's picture

100% agree. If it's 10-0 Arkansas after the 1st quarter, no one on our sideline is going to be thinking, "Holy sh*t! It's MSU-Bama all over again!"

We'll lose if our front four can't pressure Mallett. We'll lose if Chekwa never turns his head when the ball is thrown his way. We'll lose if our O-line can't pave the way for Boom. Plain and simple.

The_Lurker's picture

My nerves have nothing to do with the two Michigans getting beat down or the Penn State loss or the Nerdwestern loss, or even the Wisconsin loss. Whatever nervousness I have is squarely with the Buckeyes and me wanting everyone to shut the hell up about them.

It was bugging me so much that I chronicled it here:

Poe McKnoe's picture

I see an Ohio State team that's got great numbers, both offensively and defensively.  But they've struggled against the better teams.  I think Pryor comes out throwing the ball the best we've seen him and Tressel barely tops Petrino.

Buckeye Black's picture

No more jitters, no more whining, no more excuses, can we just play some damn football!

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Amen Buckeye Black.  Enough analysis.  Time to put on the cleats.

Did you know,
In Arkansas the don’t draft the men for service until they are 30 yrs old,
They like to get them right out of high school.

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

fadeproof's picture

Re 1/1 bowl games:

1. Michigan sucks.....what did we expect?

2. Penn St should have beaten UF if only we hadn't knocked McLovin' silly two months ago such that he started throwing to the wrong team.

3. Michigan St game was a combination of Michigan St being Michigan St and the classic "we were snubbed" face plant.  How many times have we seen a team who thinks they've been snubbed re their bowl bid fall flat (think Michigan against USC 4 years ago). 

4. Wisconsin v TCU was a good, tough game.  Wiscy got all crazy and abandoned the run, which arguably sealed their fate.  In any event, it's not as if they got blown away or manhandled....and they were playing a tough team.

I just hope everyone has their mind right tonight.  No panicking, no stupid 15-yarders, etc.  I do think we have to be prepared for plenty of "bending" on defense.

The wait is killing me.  Can't focus for shit.  Work......pfftt

I'm confident this game will take years off of my life. 

Buckeye in Athens's picture

I see 27-24 as a pretty good prediction. I think it'll be close- neither team will dominate, though we have a chance if the running game gets going strong early. Somebody gets a pick and one of the backup-running backs has a surprise big day.

The_Lurker's picture

My kingdom for a Jordan Hall throwback to Pryor in the end zone for an OSU touchdown. Seriously. You know, if I had a kingdom.

SouthPlainfieldNut's picture

Ohio State needs a simular formula to that of last year's Rose Bowl to be successful in this game. No matter what the means are, find a way to mantain possession. I see no way Arkansas doesn't put up points on Ohio State's defense. The Razorbacks have either beaten or held their own against some of the country's best. They've handled quality SEC opponents, lost to Alabama as a result of a turnover, and lost Mallett for the second half of the Auburn game (Yes, I know the backup threw four TD's, but still). I don't really know how to call this one, I admit I might be blinded by my love of Ohio State and for that reason I can't bring myself to pick against them, but this is just a tough, tough matchup for this edition of the Ohio State Buckeyes.

SouthPlainfieldNut's picture

And, I hate to say this because I never want to see my team lose, but part of me still wishes that Tressel would sit the soon-to-be-suspended players.

RBuck's picture

I'm thinking it's possible that Boom sits. Got bad vibes when Zach Boren took his place at a presser. Maybe he just told Tress he wasn't coming back, which to me is a smart move for him...his already not high high draft stock would take a  huge hit next year.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

BuckeyeChief's picture

Cautiously optimisitc about this one and very peaceful;

I've been feeling 48-7 for days, hope it's the good guys.


"Damn I miss El Guapo"

RoweTrain's picture

Yeah, me too.

SuperBuckFan08's picture

Because I couldn't go for three.   -Woody-

BuckeyeSki's picture

If anybody is interested in getting alcohol poisioning tonight, you can just do a shot everytime one the the analysts talk about how fast Ark players'll prolly die before halftime tho

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AngelHeartsBuckeyes's picture

Boyfriend didnt believe me about the analysts on eSECpn until I made him actually listen to what they were saying--anything goes good for the SEC team and its their dominance, anything goes good for the other team, its because the SEC team made a mistake.  Now (when I can stomach turning off the mute button) we make a game of it. 

Also thought it was sooooo funny during the Orange Bowl halftime report on the MNC game this year, guys says about Oregon "They really learned their lesson in last years Rose Bowl."  Funny he didnt mention they lost to tOSU when you KNOW if Oregon had lost to am SEC team there would have been a 2 minute diatribe about what an ass whoopin' it was. 

And on a funnier note: having breakfast today with my mother in a local coffee shop.  Some Georgia fan asks "ya'll gonna win today?"  Of course this quickly becomes a conference thing while he vehemently retorts that the B1G could not possibly have a winning record against the SEC.  As per usual, I just quietly wait for him to tap, tap, his little phone and watch his smug litttle jowls drop as reality sets in.  Its the little things in life people.  Its the little things. 

Buckeye born and bred. Buckeye til I'm dead.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

if I could listen to Big Daddy and Lachey and their play-by-play was actually in sync with what was going on during the game on my tv there would be peace in my house, but that has never, ever, ever happened....

btalbert25's picture

I can't figure out how Keels is so good on radio doing football but was so horrible doing Reds baseball last year.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

he's awesome doing the bball stuff too -- I haven't listened to him do baseball

btalbert25's picture

He did Reds games on TV for Fox Sports Ohio last year and it just wasn't good.  He was awesome at the trivia questions and everything like that.  He knew so much about the Reds and players that even a huge baseball fan like myself had never heard of, but for some reason he could never get the players names right when he was calling the games.  It was like he was lost. You would think with covering football and basketball that a slower paced game like baseball would be easy, but he just didn't take to it very well at all.

JakeBuckeye's picture

ESPN is desperate for us to lose this game. Everybody not named Lou Holtz is crying for the sitting of these players during the Sugar Bowl.

Kurt's picture

They really shouldn't be playing.  But sure, talking heads should move on...

btalbert25's picture

From what I understood, this isn't just a special circumstance for Ohio State.  Doesn't the NCAA make special exceptions for bowl games?  The exception may be as idiotic as the rule the guys violated, but it's not like Ohio State is doing something wrong here.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

NCAA will make the exception for a bowl game but the school can still decide to sit them or play them.  A lot of people feel the kids should be made to sit this bowl game out.  Not sure where I stand on that.

btalbert25's picture

I guess people can feel that way if they want, but it's not really accurate to say they shouldn't be playing unless that's just personal opinion someone is forcing on everyone else.  The NCAA allowed it, and it's not a special exception just made up for Ohio State. 

In my opinion if the seniors and the team wants them to play, that's the only opinion that matters, not mine, yours, Spielman and especially Herbstreit.  He is burning as many bridges as Pryor by continuously throwing Tressel under the bus over this.

William's picture

The players shouldn't sit the game, they did nothing wrong except for the fact that the NCAA violated their constitutional rights, I'm tired about all the garbage about how OSU lacks integrity if the players play. How many SEC teams would have reported the violations? Besides, I'm ready for OSU to kick in some hicks teeth, the SEC mob mentality is miserable here in the South. Also I'm done with Herbstreit, scumbag should be prevented from setting foot on OSU's campus again, he's just jealous that he doesn't have gold pants or that he was never the player that Pryor is, as well he trashes Tressel which is just sheer stupidity; he's also just a SEC loving ESPN cronie, enough of the suspensions, just want to see OSU dominate tonight...

JakeBuckeye's picture

OK, stop with the NCAA violating their constitutional rights bullcrap. They didn't. Selling their stuff was legal, that's why they aren't in jail.

tomcollins's picture

Yeah, LOL @ the "constitutional scholars".  They probably think it's a violation of the first amendment if a moderator deletes a racist comment or horse pr0n.

tomcollins's picture

No way I support them sitting 6 games for this.

goodlifesean's picture

Agreed. I really want to mute this and watch the game with Keels and Lachey this morning. All I want to do is get pumped for the game and it's all about suspensions. Even spiels was bitching this morning on WHBC 1480. I'm gonna snap. They are being punished severely. You don't get a fine for speeding and tell the judge you are surrendering your license to look better in the public fuck that. Ihope each suspended player plays phenomenally and Mark May chokes on his fucking lapel mic. Time for bourbon and some pork product.

Always prepare for and expect victory, don't brace for defeat. If defeat happens learn and never let it happen again.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

AND where in the hell is our BBall preview of Iowa??????  I need a back-up plan!

William's picture

No need for a back-up plan, Pryor's going to be stiff arming SEC trash to the ground, Sanzenbacher is going to show everyone he'll make it in the NFL, and Hines may put someone in the hospital, considering he could've killed Adam Robinson, that tight end better watch out coming across the middle, Hines just may go Jack Tatum on him, feel like tonight is going to be a good one....

Irricoir's picture

I just read this on Yahoo News. It doesn't look to good. If it is read off a large sight like that you can automaticaly assume that the perception of our team is as crooked as the SEC itself. I don't know much about the writer but it looks ugly. Pushing all of that aside. Play hard boys. You your best to bring homer the victory!

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

The_Lurker's picture

Take it with a grain of salt. Just the media piling on. None of the large football factory programs are squeaky clean, and it would be naive of us to think that our athletes don't bend rules on their own. However, it's easy to pick on Ohio State because we report every little thing to the NCAA. The SEC schools would rather look the other way and hope they don't get caught than report little things that might lead to big things. I like OSU's commitment to full disclosure, although I think it might cost us recruits here and there. I don't think there's much to the loaner car thing, and if you scrutinized the ride of any star college athlete (*cough, cough* LeMichael James' Range Rover *cough, cough*) you're bound to go, "Hmmmm...."

What is funny about that story is that the writer jumps on Pryor for borrowing the Dodge SUV and taking it home to Pennsylvania to show his family, but then also jumps on him for not buying it later. Um, where is Pryor going to get the money to buy a new Denali while he's at OSU? If he did buy it, what would the writer be saying? I own a Dodge SUV. They're nice, but nothing like the Escalade that Reggie Bush was often seen driving and not as pricey as James' Range Rover.

Everyone loves to pile on. Let's just win tonight and give them a nice, big glass of shut the hell up. 

Is it Saturday Yet's picture

between ESPN, Yahoosports, and Foxsports there isn't a trusting source for info or unbiased opinion's all just garbage to get a response 


tampa buckeye's picture is better just sayin'.  I like the pictures! cause ima stupid.

Is it Saturday Yet's picture is also high on my list!

Matthew's picture

Ozone probably has the best photo archive of Buckeye sports of the past 8-9 years or so.


Class of 2010

btalbert25's picture

What else is new?  I still get to hear about Maurice Clarett and how he was payed and Ohio State was dirty back then.  That was what 9, 10 years ago now.  People are going to think what they want to think despite evidence to the contrary.  It'll never stop, it really doesn't matter either.  Just win the games.  They may still hate, but I'd rather hear an ignorant ass say they are cheaters than someone screaming 0-10, or SEC, or can't beat an SEC team, or you are too slow for SEC SPEED. 

matti's picture

eff these arkansas walmart breaders  enuff negativity go osu

tampa buckeye's picture

The team that puts up more points is going to win this one.  

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

No one in Arkansas wants the best players to sit.  May the best team win.

I don't think I can take the network talking heads while watching this game.  Is there anyplace I can get a radio feed or play-by-play on the net?

I may implode into a fetal position before the game even gets here.

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

Pam's picture

I am quite sure my mute button will be used all night.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Eh, Blackledge and Nessler are pretty good in my opinion. Some of my favorites on ESPN.

Pam's picture

I think they might make it bearable.  If Herbie or Musberger were calling it, I know I would mute it.  The "Around the Horn" guys were unbearable today.  I rememger Plaschke predicting a blow out by Oregon last year, but he did write a mea cupla and was blown away by TBDITL

JakeBuckeye's picture

Yeah, I had started to not mind Plaschke until this past month when he completely trashed Mr. Gee, Gene Smith, Jim Tressel, and the entire Ohio State football program on Around the Horn. Which is funny based upon his coverage and support of USC. Kevin Blackistone was the only one on Around the Horn today whom picked the Buckeyes to win, I believe.

Pam's picture

Yes, because he is a NU alum said he had to do it for the Big Ten.  I don't remember this much backlash with Mo C.  Is it just me or has it become much much worse? 

JakeBuckeye's picture

Wow. An ESPN guy just informed me that me, you, and the rest of the tOSU fanbase cringed when we heard we were playing Arkansas, an SEC team. I guess I didn't realize?

Pam's picture

I cringe when I hear that. 

AJ's picture

anybody just caught PTI?  Neither of those guys like tOSU.  They both trashed tOSU is to completely different ways while arguing that the the trash talk they were saying was a more accurate trash talk than the other..

"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

Pam's picture

Anyone on ESPN mentioning that Steven Ridley has been reinstated for the Cotton Bowl by the NCAA after being suspended by LSU for "academic misconduct" (sounds like cheating to me)? 

AJ's picture


"Without winners, there wouldn't even be civilization." -----------Woody Hayes

BuckeyeChief's picture

Dick Rod hasn't been fired...scUM refutes reports...


"Damn I miss El Guapo"

jack's picture

So RichRod is not fired now.

Great news for the Buckeyes

RoweTrain's picture

NCAA '11 Sugar Bowl - 7 min qtrs - All-American (adjusted sliders)

Ohio State 56 Arkansas 7

Pryor hit on pass on second drive of the game - pick 6

Pryor 5-11 120 1 td (didnt throw 1 pass in 2nd half) Rushing 6-84-2

Boom (jersey and all) 20-163-4

Dane 1-55-1

Jordan Hall 8-46-2

Arkansas 139 yds of offense

Let's do this tonight boys!!!

Arkansas Buckeye's picture

Good play calling so far

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."