First, hats-off to being transparent. The University of Michigan held a press conference today featuring president Mary Sue Coleman, new athletic director David Brandon and head football coach Rich Rodriguez. In it, they outlined the NCAA's allegations against the program stemming from an investigation into alleged violations from the football team's practice schedule. Does anyone remember USC or Memphis holding a presser, like this?
Now that I've reached the limit of nice things I'm allowed to say about Michigan, the allegations fall somewhere in between the minor and serious realms. The quality control staff is in position to take the blunt of the heat with Brandon reiterating Rodriquez's job was not in imminent danger as a result of the findings -- which I don't think any of us ever doubted. Evidently the QC group was serving as de facto coaches during workouts and the players were forced into summer conditioning drills for missing class (which is apparently a no-no in the summer). The gist of it is the AD is getting hit with a "failure to monitor" charge, but the NCAA is calling them "potentially major".
Bonus: Michigan was still under NCAA probation from the Ed Martin/Fab Five findings.
The school was hit with five allegations total and will respond to the NCAA within 90 days. The follow-up hearing is scheduled for early August. They'll no doubt try the self-sanction route first, but at the end of the day, Rodriguez has seen the long bowl streak snapped and likely NCAA sanctions arrive under his watch. All in for Michigan?
You can read the full NCAA documents here.
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keep it up RichRod. When do the USC investigations get released? Or did they?
USC was not so open, so we don't know the exact allegations in their case, but they met with the NCAA last weekend and should know their fate w/in 10 weeks.
Don't forget that one of those guys that paid for Reggie's house is due to testify under oath in court on March 5th regarding the civil suit against Bush.
Unless he receives a big fat check from Reggie first.
That will provide more info than anything that was said to the NCAA last week.
If he testifies Reggie will not. That's why this has taken so long. For there to be real sanctions against USC Reggie has to testify FIRST, before the booster that bank-rolled him and his whole family for those years.
RichRod considered West Virginia a stepping stone to a program like Michigan. When he is done at The Great Satan, it may be the other way around.
I kinda miss when the game actually meant something.......
it still means a lot to me. meaningful beat-downs.
As much as I hate scUM, if they get a harsher penalty than USC, I will be pissed beyond all known limits.
No doubt
I hear that, but the last three years I chalk up that game as an auto-dubbya
It went from a game that was exciting, to the equivelant of playing Minny
Like Spiel's said, "they ruined it".
I'm with you on this one. The first couple of beatings were fun, but I like having butterflies in my stomach on that morning.
At this point, playing Michigan is like knocking a little crippled girl from her wheelchair and then kicking her while she is on the ground, curled up in a fetal position, tears streaming down her face as she begs for mercy.
Only it's not some little crippled girl, it's young men who have sold their souls to the Devil and have willingly played for the urine and blue.
So keep kicking.
from yost's ghost to grandmas in mackinac, we are all in for...
sanctions, 3 win seasons, and embarrassing scandals!
Wheels are in motion for all of that to happen.
http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.c...
They really need a Phil Knight type to step up.
...dont forget we practice longer than you do too
true story...in high school a kid challenged one of my friends to a fight "after school, behind the church across the street." everyone shows, the challenger initiates the fight by taking a swing at my friend. my friend proceeds to knock the challenger to the ground and get in a couple of good shots. the challenger, realizing he is whipped...CALLS...TIME....OUT. laughs were had by all. poor kid.
Am I the only person who is sick to death of hearing about Christ Jr's throwing mechanics?! Seriously, I cant even stomach it anymore. He had a middle of the pack season this year, his throwing motion is awful, and you can't unlearn all the bad habits you've been practicing for the last 10 years in a week before the combine. I hope he gets hurt, not because I dislike him as a person, or I wish injury on anybody, but simply because then and ONLY THEN will the media STFU about Timmy
It was nauseating when they compared Sherron Collins to Tewbowbag last night at halftime of the KU Oklahoma game. IT'S BASKETBALL season ESPN!! stop talking about virgin boy Timmie. ENOUGH!!!
I just hope recruiters took notice and will point out that UF QBs receive poor mechanics coaching to all five-stars that want to throw the ball in the NFL.
Well, you know Kiffin is already on it.
They won't; they're too busy pointing out TP's mechanics to everyone.
I wont call the kettle black here, TP has a terrible motion too
But at least thats not all we hear about any time the WWL is left on all night
WWL?
True, but TP has always been known as a run-first guy. He didn't shatter his state's passing records like Tebow of Nazareth did.
It's a tune-up prior to BCS bowl game for us.
I'm actually surprised by all this, Ski. I had just assumed that JC Jr had an innate, perfect motion. Kind of shoots the 'Infallibility' mantra in the butt.
I hear he is very selective when shooting things into butts....OHHHHHHHH
What!?! The Arm Punt is the most sacred of all throws!
IIIIIIIII-OOOOOOOOOO!!! Oh, we weren't doing that..? Sorry. Take them where I can get them.
I thought I would come down here and see what you guys have to say. And I want to tell you, you have it pretty much right; institutionally, Michigan is being brutally clean on itself in this case.
Rodriguez's "safe" status has been confirmed. There is precious little to do but laugh about a lot of this. The practice time overages came down to mere minutes in some cases, even under the microscope of the NCAA. The supervisory violations among Quality Control staff come down to details of job descriptions. And there's an allegation in there about (I am not kidding) QC staff acting improperly by checking on kids' classroom attendance. That's right; the NCAA views it as a potential problem if coaches are making srue that players attend class, and get extra laps or something if they don't. Whatever.
What we Michigan Men are marveling at, is the undisguised campaign of hostility that the Detroit Free Press is conducting against Rodriguez. It is truly amazing. Remember that the practice-time compliance forms issue was first reported in a memo by Michigan's own A.D. auditors, to the Board of Regents. And, as stated in the memo, it had been dealt with in the summer of 2009. Let me say that again; this whole story got started with Michigan's own internal reporting, which goes beyond basic NCAA requirements.
But anywya, that July '09 report got leaked to a Free Press reporter who HATES Rich Rodriguez, and that got him started on this story.
We can't imagine the Post-Dispatch doing such a thing; not that it should. My own respect for Jim Tressel, which was large to begin with, has only grown as a result of his (few, admittedly) statements that he doesn't quite get the basic complaints against Michigan's coaching staff.
There were some recent stories about "negative recruiting" around the time of signing day. Rodriguez was asked about who it might have been. His answer was that it WASN'T Jim Tressel. Tressel was the one guy he ruled out.
What Michigan has with OSU, I hope, is a rivalry.
What Michigan has with the Detroit Free Press right now, is a guerilla war. And I persnally think that part will get worse before it gets better. You guys may in the future see fewer "F--- the Bucks" shirts. We will be wearing F--- the Free Press" shirts.
All jokes aside tho, do you really think RRod is the answer in A.A.?
Because as we have been discussing, "The Game" has been reduced to mid-field chippiness and lopsided victories....in large part to Mr. Rodriguez.
At least when Lllllllllllllllllloyd was at the helm, I actually felt like we COULD lose to scUM, now, I'm more afraid of Nerdwestern
Ski, you make a good point. I think RR was a dumb move on Michigan. If your going to get rid of Carr, at least hire someone who has had a season of REAL success, other than the last one at WVU?
With all due respects, guys, nobody "got rid" of Carr. Lloyd stayed a full year longer than he planned. He might have stayed two years longr than he should have. I say that as somebody who likes and respects Carr.
And the 2008 team, without Mallett, who left for reaons that are almost entirely unrelated to Rodriguez, was a disaster waiting to happen.
By the way, you guys should know better than anybody that Justin Boren's leaving (Justin is a GREAT player, obviously) had mostly nothing to do with Rodriguez as well. If you don't know that, you should look into that story more closely.
I'm really happy with Rodriguez, and where I think he can take us. It's been hard. Three DC's in almost as meny years. Two walk-ons starting on defense last year. Things are changing, for the better. I'd really be mad if anybody undermined Rodriguez now.
Sorry for the typos; not qute used to 11 Warriors' graphics. ('meny'? where did THAT come from?)I actually know how to spell a couple of words.
I thought Justin Boren left because when RR came, "The family values evaporated"?
eroded
I think this gives the NCAA a chance to go hard on USC and show real contrast of styles and approaches. Should sanctions go down on USC and Michigan in the same timeframe the message becomes, work with us, we'll work with you. f*ck us, and we'll f*ck you.
Re: Family Values
Ian, I hope you know the details of the back-story on the "family values" quote. You'd want to start with Justin's mom and dad, who wrote the press release. It's a long story, and it has nothing to do with Rich Rodriguez.
Matter of fact, I should correct myself. Don't start with Mike and Hope Boren at all. Start with the people who were around Mike Boren for Justin's Pickerington North games.
Anyway, we digress. You guys got a whale of a guard in Justin Boren, and I think that all the Borens are happy to be close to home. The surprise of the year has to be Zach Boren, who Tressel offered when Justin left Michigan. After Michigan DIDN'T offer Zach. And, uh, that got sme Borens pret-ty angry about some family values.
The Boren thing has worked out fantastically well for OSU, and by the same token it had practically nothing to do with Rodriguez. My only complaint is that none of the writers actually did the real story on the weird and inexplicable "family values" thing.
I'm quietly confident that people in Columbus know the true story, better than just about anybody in Michigan does, thanks to no reporting.
Ok, you got me. Got it off top of my head.
Ok, thanks. I now know.
...and knowing is half the battle
this is so good on so many levels.. . eff the scum 2285 days!!!!!
The other half?
Ummm....G.I. Joe
Your killin me smalls
ha wrong reply
ummm...G.I. Joe
your killin me smalls
+ 1
The responses to this article have offered the most entertaining/informative posts in a long time.
Okay, worse than that..
My own friend is beating the snot out of me in kick boxing and I look at his sister and yelled "do something!" We laughed so hard that he let up and I got a good shot in on his gut.
.. and the 11W Vaudeville Show, with all its comedians, is in full swing.
Dr. Saturday, on Michigan:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/f...
I think he gets it. I hadn't read this when I posted above about the Detroit Free Press. Clearly, Doc Saturday thought the same as I did about that...
Well, MMan, as long as those shirts pertain to that Detroit rag and not the 1st Amendment, I'm cool.
Don't worry about the typos; it happens quite a bit around here.
Like I said before, I effin hate scUM...I could know we'll win 49-0 pre-game and still be nervous...like I told my friend last week, I could get wiped out by a car, lost both legs and become crippled, but as long as we beat them that day, it's cool. Keep RR as long as you can.
You never leave without 'em
Wow. Should have known?
Ski fail
don't judge what i do in my down time... she started it.
Quite disappointing to see people actually complaining of wins against UM. They have held the rivalry bragging rights for a long, long time. I have absolutely no issues, NONE with beating the state up north for as long as possible.
Was #1 vs #2 incredible to be a part of? Yes. Do I care if that is never revisited? No.
Oh, yes.
F*** the Free Press. Not, f*** the free press.
Matter of fact, I shall probably be relying on my First Amendment rights when the Free Press tries to enjoin me from printing those shirts.
thanks you being our rival you should hate their very existance. my they forever rot in the basement of the bigten scrapping it out with indiana for that motor city bowl birth!!!
We're not complaining about winning, it's just we like to get the adrenaline running when we play them.
Even though it has been an era dominated by Tressel in that rivalry, but c'mon it wasn't that long ago both were undefeated with a trip to the national title on the line. Enjoy the beatdowns while their here, it'll swing back I'm sure.
I will say, as much as I knew Ohio State was going to win the game this year. I was worried. Simply for the fact that win or lose the Bucks were going to the same place. Throw in the fact that Michigan wins and they go to a bowl game and that win would have, in many ways, made their season and given Dickrod even more support. There were a lot of reasons for me to have butterflies this year.
Unless we get a 12th member. Then we can dick around and beat the sh** out of DickRod and his squad.
I agree this year was a little more exciting before the game because UM had a great start to the season.
Ian, I see what you did there with 'dick around' and 'DickRod'. Clever
Brian, that's why we're getting our shots in now.
sbb, don't start sounding like Oregon kickers.
I've read a couple Freep articles; thruthfully, if you would have submitted any of your comments tonight to them, it would have improved the editorial content.
Not to bring up a sore subject MMan, but what on earth happened to the Wolverines offense against Illinois tonight?
Our basketball games haven't just been bad; they've been freaky-weird bad. No explanation. One of the few plain ol' 100% solid games we played this year was hosting the Buckeyes in Ann Arbor.
What ever happened to..."If you cheat at MICHIGAN, You're GONE?"
Bill Martin quote from last year. What a joke. All they can do now is make excuses, rationalize and run and hide. It's Pathetic....and funny as hell.
Well, if you are the head coach at a major college football program, you can cheat and you can lose, but you can't do both simultaneously.
Could it be that with the whole Jim O'Brien lawsuit and tOSU's apparent hasty decision to relieve him of this duties that schools are protecting themselves and not taking action before the final results?
Well, I have no idea what the real back story on the so-called "family values" thing is. MMan, why don't you just let the cat out of the bag already?
agreed.... I say it's 50/50 that DickRod is coach when they suit up the Vomit Maize and Blue vs Uconn..... I think the University is sitting tight right now till the official charges come in..... he has a "fired for violation of NCAA rules" clause in his contract. Then they dont have to pay out that bloated contract. I personally want DickRod to stay another year to get his ass beating in Columbus, but it would be more delicious fun to see scUM get turned down by 2-3 more mid-level coaches and settle on another Jackass.
I'll give you the short version, if you will promise to get the rest of the details, on your own, from people in the Columbus area who can confirm all of what I've said, and even add further details of their own.
The basics of the story:
Mike Boren, the father of Justin and Zach, is, for lack of any better term, a psycho-dad. That's not from me; Justin was interviewed by the Detroit Free Press when he was a star freshman at Michigan, and was of course a "legacy" insofar as his dad played for Bo, who called him "Boron." The Free Press quoted Justin as saying that his dad Mike yelled at him so fiercely at halftimes of his Pickerington North games, that Justin thought "they might have to call the cops."
Justin wasn't a legacy recruit at Michigan. He was a genuine 4 or 5 star recruit. Mike Boren, Bo and Lloyd Carr all lobbied him heavily to come to Michigan. On his own, Justin might have liked to have stayed at home in Pickerington/Columbus. When in Ann Arbor, Justin took almost every opportunity he could, to return home. he spent a lot of time working in his dad's landscaping/snowplowing business.
Not one of the Borens expressed any dissatisfaction at Michigan, until the 2008 recruiting class offer-letter date arrived. When that date came, and Michigan had not sent an offer to Zach Boren (who had, by all accounts, been very lightly recruited outside of some MAC schools), the Boren family went ballistic. Justin was pulled out of school, and a press release was apparently drafted by Mike and Hope Boren. It was in that press release that the oblique reference to an "erosion of family values" at Michigan occurred. A couple of days later, in one of his very few interviews in the last two years, Mike Boren made the odd statement that he "will not have his two sons playing at two different schools." The statement was as revealing as it was strange -- why would anybody expect that two high-level football playing sons would automaticall play at the same school. To most of the rest of the world, Mike Boren had tipped his hand; he was pissed that after delivering Justin to Lloyd Carr and Michigan, Rich Rodriguez had not offered Zach.
The notion that an "erosion of family values" was occurring at Rich Rodriguez's Michigan raced through media accounts, and stuck with stubborn efficiency. It is a bad joke. Justin Boren didn't care much for Ann Arbor for his own personal reasons, and his departure was timed EXACTLY with the offer-letter date for his younger brother Zach.
Pulling his kid out of a school was not new for Mike Boren, either. In Zach's senior year of high school, Mike pulled Zach out of Pickerington North and enrolled him at Pickerington South. (Ask, if you get a chance to chat with Pickerington people, about whether Zach attended every Michigan camp that he could, wore Michigan-logo stuff, and looked forward to going to Michigan someday.)
So those are the highlights. I'll let you check out the rest of the story. The "fmaily values" meme is typical of many stories that have falsely made Rich Rodriguez the butt of the joke. Rodriguez and Carr, by the way, have responded to the Boren matter by just saying nothing; they have simply taken the abuse, and kept their mouths shut. That part is a real throwback to the Bo-Moeller-Carr era.
One last thing. I'll be among the first to say that for the Borens, the story has a mostly happy ending; they are at home in Columbus, and Zach has exceeded all expectations as an OSU freshman. He'd have had very little place as a FB in Michigan's spread offense; whether he'd have made the lineup as a Michigan linebacker is a question that will never be answered. The point, in the end, is not an attack on the Boren family, although they did much to cause the controversy. Rather, my main point is that any claim that Rodriguez is somehow responsible for any "erosion of family values" is completely, totally, thoroughly, comprehensively false.
Then you'll be hapy to give me 2-1 odds, on a $50 bet with you, right?
I'll settle for a round of golf at the Scarlet Course.
Are we on?