Shelley Meyer on Florida Fans' Hate of Urban Meyer: 'I Wish They'd Get Over It'

By DJ Byrnes on July 27, 2014 at 5:49p
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As Ohio State fans know too well, Urban Meyer's reign at Florida was wildly successful. 

Instead of building a statue for the man and thanking him for his contributions to the university, a nutty swath of Florida fans turned Urban Meyer's unceremonious exit from UF into a bizarre, spurned-teen-lover grudge. 

Rationalizations for the cognitive dissonance have ranged from Meyer "left the cupboard bare" to accusations the two-time title winner personally groomed Aaron Hernandez as his pet serial killer.

The former is probably due to the sight of Urban Meyer take Ohio State's gutted cupboard and running the table. The latter (hyperbole), however, were flames stoked by the likes of Meyer-replacement, Will Muschamp (likely to throw smoke in front of his team's failures).

Shelley Meyer, like most folks with a functioning cerebral cortex, is baffled by the hatred by a certain section of Florida fans.

From Pat Dooley of The Gainesville Sun, a friend of the Dubcast, and a man who levied the most pertinent article on the Meyer-Hernandez relationship:

"All of my comments are about message board people,” she said. “I still go to Gainesville four times a year. Nobody ever says anything mean to me. What I care about are the people down there who love us and know us. The people who hate us I don’t even know.

“I just wish people would get over it. I wish we could have been there 12 years. I’m the most bummed that we weren’t there 12 years.”

That's standard human procedure in 2014, to be honest. It's a lot easier to take your personal insecurities out in a message board than it is to confront Urban Meyer's wife in public. 

Why does Shelley subject herself to the ramblings of Florida message board posters?

“Because I still care about the Gators and want to see how they’re doing.”

What's Shelley's reasoning behind the hate?

"Now, I know ‘The Team Up North’ versus Ohio State game is pretty mean; everybody is pretty mean when that game rolls around. It’s extremely competitive, but it’s just not as mean (as the SEC). Not as dirty and mean. I hate to say that, but that’s just how it is in the South. College football is everything down there.”

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“The Big Ten isn’t like that,” she said. “That’s just my opinion. There is not that feel here. The intensity in the competition (in the SEC) is incredible.”

Shelley Meyer: Tough but fair takes.

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JollyFatMan's picture

As someone who was born here then experienced that environment, I trust her judgement. 

How firm thy friendship..

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Killer nuts's picture

Let's hope Shelley wants to stay in Columbus at least 12 years too, and more importantly let's hope she gets her way this time

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Eph97's picture

What a bunch of hypocrites. I'm sure they were all outraged when LeBron left the Cavs for the Heat.

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toad1204's picture

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

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cinserious's picture

Now THAT'S a hell of an upvote gif!

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

I've always found Shelley to be genuine and honest. I also trust her judgment on this one.

She is by far the best first lady in college sports!

How Firm Thy Friendship

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Urban Nation Army's picture

This would be exactly like Heat fans being mad at LeBron. Each one gifted them two rings, then went home to a place they love. It's almost like they would be happier if they had never come to florida in the first place. What a joke. 

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

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Chief B1G Dump's picture

I see Shelly around quite a bit...she will always speak her mind. Solid woman. 

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Fatpants's picture

You can say whatever the hell you want when your spouse makes that kind of scratch. 

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OfficerRabbit's picture

Florida fans feel now how we would have felt if, after losing JT, Gene Smith had hired any mediocre to mid-level coach instead of Urban Meyer. We had a pretty good run with JT (BCS Bowls, NC, B1G titles, etc), just has Florida had a great run with Meyer. When UM left, their whole program took a step back and continues to reel. We on the other hand were tripped up for a year, then landed a top 3 coach and have gone on a 24-2 run since.

Honestly, can you imagine our insane tweeting recruits Big Nut crazy slice of fans reaction had our program slid like Florida's?

 

 

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cinserious's picture

Top 2 coach.......Two is all I'm givin' ya'.

He might be behind Saban for now but the chase is on!

Speaking of which. anybody got data on how long it took Saban to win his first NC at 'Bama and really get that thing rolling? It would be interesting to compare with Urban's first 2 years in Columbus.

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

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Buckeye5000's picture

Saban:

2007: 7-6 Lost in Independence Bowl (adjusted to 2-6 per NCAA)....not sure why.

2008: 12-2 Lost in Sugar Bowl

Go Bucks!

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Of course they're still mad. We got Meyer, they got Will Muschamp. Anyone would be angry over that deal.

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

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cinserious's picture

Even Mus-CHUMP is angry over that deal. Had he waited a couple more years at U-T under Mack Brown, he could be running the show for the Longhorns right now in the Big-XII instead of aspiring to be a middling team in the ultra-competitive SEC. 

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

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cronimi's picture

Yeah, and Will could've run Texas (further) into the ground. I don't know if Muschamp can be angry over a deal he accepted though. He was coach in waiting (a BS moniker, but whatever), knew it would likely be his job when Mack left, and didn't feel like waiting around any longer. I seem to recall many UT fans being disappointed when he left -- I bet they're breathing a huge sigh of relief now that they've seen what he can do in the HC office. 

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TheVictoryBell45's picture

Shelly Meyer seems to be popular among Buckeye fans but she annoys me to a certain extent. It's obvious that she never fully got on board with Urban being the head coach here. She is the only person that still brings up Florida and it seems like everytime she is interviewed she is pointing out how they love Florida and how much she misses living there. She has felt the need to express how the SEC is more passionate about football than we are countless times and it's starting to get old. 

Ohio State fans passion for Buckeye football doesn't take a back seat to anybody. We packed 95,000 fans in for a spring game and made Cals stadium our own. 

I would just rather her stay out of the media with the Gator and SEC talk and fully embrace the fact that she may be cold a few months out of the year while taking her helicopter to the gym. 

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chitown buckeye's picture

I agree, no one needs her to be a "straight shooter" and insulting one of the, if not the biggest fan bases in the country. Certainly cutting off the hand that feeds her. More comments like that and these non-passionate fans will stop caring about her in Columbus. Just ask Herbie...

I hope the comment just came out wrong and it was meant to sound differently but I'm with you. I get tired of her making these types of comments as well. Keep football out of it and just tell us you like the warm weather of Florida.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

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trigg03's picture

True dat Victory...I, too, was a little annoyed with the comparisons. Its as if she is trying to appease those rednecks down there & sway them back over to their side. #1) who cares why Urban left UF - that's a mute point. The fact is that he did leave and that alone should be respected. #2) anyone who buys into the b.s. talk that top 10 recruiting classes are "leaving the cupboard bare" have completely lost their fricken minds. Finally #3) Meyer has proven to be a disciplinarian & IMO was coerced to stray away from his values while at UF resulting in an unbalanced life. Anyone with any amount of knowledge can tell you that once you compromise your values for anything or anyone then everything sorta starts falling apart. UFM by all accounts appears to be at a lot more peace with himself & thus able to handle the stresses awhole lot better.

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Jason Priestas's picture

Can't really call one group a redneck and then follow it up with "mute point" now. :/

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

I don't know, Jason.  I agree that some points should just be silent and let it go at that. 

We should all be cognizant of pointing out the moat in the eyes of our Brothers Eleven, and that it often invites other snarky comments such as the one I offer up here for consumation.

Heh, heh.

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trigg03's picture

How witty of you...so I spelled it wrong big EDITED. Bet I spelled all those words correctly huh. Semper Fi

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FitzBuck's picture

It's a MOO point.

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opus's picture

I logged in just to upvote this.

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KingsRite's picture

I think she may be confusing passion with drunkenness. I've always had the feeling that she regrets having to leave her friends and the beach life in Florida. She was a transplant though...just like a good portion of the population there. Hopefully she will get over it at some point but she doesn't have too. Some people are just enamored with the ocean and that type of living.

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

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Citrus's picture

Gainsville isn't exactly the ocean life

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KingsRite's picture

Closer than Dublin, OH. ;)

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

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Citrus's picture

Haha point taken. 

cinserious's picture

We got a Fort Meyer up here in Ohio too!

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

nfischer's picture

I must be one of the few that is totally fine with Shelley speaking her mind.  She isn't an appendage of her husband. She is her own person and has her own opinions.  And I'm sure they dint always line up with UFM.  I'm ok with that.

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Jason Priestas's picture

Yep. And she's right. Sure Ohio State is a juggernaut, but taking the conference as a whole, football is a bigger deal to fans of the SEC than the Big Ten. It's more passionate, more competitive, you name it. That's not a slight on Ohio State, but rather reflects the conferences. The Big Ten needs to get better – hire better coaches, expect more from coaches, recruit harder, etc.

Jeeves's picture

I think it is a compliment to the Big Ten that the schools have a healthier perspective of the role of intercollegiate athletics at their universities as compared to some other conferences (sec). Quite frankly I'd be embarrassed if the Big Ten was seen as an athletics first, academics a distant second conference (sec).

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whiskeyjuice's picture

 Good point Jeeves, I guess that explains this pic.......

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Groveport Heisman's picture

Well if Espin put effort into brainwashing NW,Indiana,Purdue,Illinois,and Minnesota fans into becoming tOSU or MSU fans after the 6th week of the season maybe we would be on their level paw.

Mark my words..I don't need acceptance. I'm catching interceptions on you innocent pedestrians.

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BroJim's picture

Who is to say that Big Ten fans would not be "more passionate" if the league had better teams. . .  Your comment seems like a big generalization, that does not make for a soild argument.

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Jason Priestas's picture

Oh, they probably would be. It's a chicken-egg thing. Doesn't invalidate her point.

cinserious's picture

Down South, they got NASCAR and SEC. Not much else so they are more rabid about CFB. OSU is clearly on a different plane than almost all the rest of the B1G though. Shelly might miss Florida and the community she has been accustomed to but Ohio will grow on her. 

Life's daily struggle is choosing between saying F--ck-it, or soldiering on with your responsibilities.  

Tater_Schroeder's picture

I'm confident her heart is with Buckeye Nation. 

How Firm Thy Friendship

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Hovenaut's picture

Tater asking the HARD question...+1.

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

Thanks Hov! She's always frank, so I thought hell, why not!

How Firm Thy Friendship

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Citrus's picture

Painful for you. Damn that was more painful on this side of things. 

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poop's picture

I don't have a problem with her saying that the SEC fans are more passionate in general. I took it as more of a compliment. We're not like the Harvey Updykes of the world. Football is a game and it's good to keep it in perspective no matter how much you enjoy it.

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buckeye85's picture

I think she was more or less making a general statement about the SEC as a whole.  The other B1G schools are just not as passionate about their teams, which is probably a result of their lack of success recently.  I think she was saying that on the whole the SEC fanbases probably take things a little bit too far when it comes to CFB.  Bama has fans poisoning trees after they lose.  Our fans are passionate, their fans are psychotic.  That is the observation she was making IMO.

Jeeves's picture

I can understand the argument for 4 sec teams to be extremely proud and passionate about their success recently but the other 10 teams? Coattail riders with nothing to brag about other than losing to bama, auburn, lsu and florida (when Meyer was there.)

Jugdish's picture

Shelley has been a good spokesperson for the Meyer family. She takes on the public scrutiny so that Urban can concentrate on the Bucks. Shelley is out front protecting the children from idiots on social networking sites. She seems to be the leader of the Meyer family.

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jonping67's picture

I would be pissed at Urban too if I were a Florida fan because they never won a National Championship or SEC Championship while he was there. Shit, Florida was winning National Championships every 5 years and SEC championships every other year before he arrived.

Screw the Gators and their gator chomp. - In Urban we trust.....GO BUCKS!

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MN Buckeye's picture

They have enough hater sports writers down there that won't let it go, mostly because it gives them something to write about other than their lack of talent.

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WC Buckeye's picture

They're still fighting the Civil War down there, man - what makes anyone think they're going to let this one go?

The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.

allinosu's picture

I lived in Florida 8 yrs and Tenn for 15 yrs and I didn't see or feel anymore passion for football than Ohio so I will disagree with her there. As a matter of fact nothing as faithful as OSU. Florida has a fair mixture FSU, FU, Miami, OSU and MI fans.

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Buckeyeneer's picture

People not respecting football in Ohio is not new. Doesn't mean they are right. I think people are people. . . everywhere. . . period. There are passionate fans here and there, and getting into a pissing match over who are "better" or "more loyal" or "more intense" is pointless. It's used by publication to generate interest and intrigue. That said, comments like that remind me of the coach from UCF who said that Ohio Stadium wasn't loud. Our Bucks and the 105,000 silent, passionless fans proceeded to send his team home with 31-16 loss.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

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Jason Priestas's picture

I think you're missing the point. Ohio State would be a heavyweight in the SEC. We get football. We love it. The same can't be said for Purdue, Minnesota and some of the other schools in the Big Ten. There are no weak links in the SEC. Even the bottom feeders are maniacal about football and pack their stadiums.

chitown buckeye's picture

Jason, I have to disagree to an extent, I'm not sure she has been around Big Ten football long enough to understand the hatred and competitive nature of some of the rivalries outside of Michigan. With that being said maybe I haven't been around SEC long enough to realize its an over the top craziness conference right down to the Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Mississippi St's. I think the football and fan bases of the top 5-6 programs of each conference are closer to being equal and the bottom feeders of both conferences are equal. I think their are some huge rivalries between B1G schools not involving OSU. MSU/UM comes to mind as well as anything involving PSU and Wisky. Add OSU and those are 5 teams that would match any intensity level from  fans, players, coaches of the SEC. 

I also wonder if her view of the SEC is based more off of Urbans emotional state at the time. He has found balance in his life at OSU and she may perceive that as not as "cut throat" as the SEC because then Urban was stressing out over everything. I think 10 yrs ago, Meyer, coaching in the B1G or SEC, would have stressed himself into heart problems.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

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allinosu's picture

That is a very good and fair point.

TheVictoryBell45's picture

I don't recall Mrs. Tressel ever giving interviews. Miss that. 

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buckeyedude's picture

And so forth...

 

 

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Pa_snoborder's picture

If you're shelley and still love Florida so be it.  I live in PA but my home will always be OH.  (Trolls are strong in State College, PA) But anyone knows you can open up a pandoras box sometimes reading and responding to the dreaded comment section of articles.  When it comes to trolls Shelley, just say no!

"No one puts baby in a corner!" - P.Swayze.

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AngryWoody's picture

Actual comment from CFB talk:

YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says:Jul 27, 2014 1:36 PM

Gator fans sold their souls for Meyer and his particular brand of evil.

What did they expect really? Once golden boy Tebow was gone and the reality of their situation, rampant cheating, insane amounts of arrests, cover up after cover up by the Gainsville PD and UF’s AD, did they really expect Meyer to hang around and try to rebuild that program?

They should be happy about their 2 rings (and lets be realistic here, they weren’t the best team either of those years, 2006 is hilarious particularly), still one less than the amount of murders that sit on Meyer’s head though.

Meyer is garbage, but the garbage that Gainsville deserved.

Damn there are some scum bags out there. 

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Ungrateful fools. They even piss on their own national titles. What does that tell you about them?

"Sherman ran an option play right through the south" - Greatest Civil War analogy EVER.

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ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

If there were 'brands of winning' you could get from a vending machine, I guess the ones that fans like this one would buy would have fringe benefits:

1. Win the Natty (most important brand attribute - and good enough for most... but to the irrational fanaticism that is pervasive in this day and age... it's sometimes not enough, hence:

1a. Win the natty with dominance (to leave little doubt)

1b. Win with the toughest schedule (again, to leave little doubt)

1c. Win and have comparisons made that the team could beat the NFL superbowl winner (again, to leave little doubt, and have that extra ketchup and mustard to have their pride be unquestionable - because, you know, it makes you the best person in the world and no one could talk smack back)

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chemicalwaste's picture

It is different in the south on Saturdays. I would say that she's right. They can be mean, but I think that comes from many people just being irrational or completely unreasonable there about the fact that it is COLLEGE FOOTBALL. There are more important things to life here. From what I saw in Southwestern Florida at a party with PSU, OSU, LSU, UF and Auburn fans, I almost got my ass kicked by everybody BUT the PSU fans for cheering on Malcolm Jenkins on his way to the endzone during the 2006 penn state game.

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GregB's picture

Having lived in Athens for 30+ yrs now, I do think the SEC is more passionate about their football.  All the schools are willing to spend 3-4 million on a head coach and recruiting wars are nasty nasty nasty.  They are their own worst enemies sometimes though because each one of them keeps the NCAA in everyone else's back yards with reports of cheating.  Its a very low class environment in the off season and recruiting season.

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Buckeyeneer's picture

Winning heals all that ails you. The reason OSU is by and large over Tatgate and still love Tressel is because we got Urban and he wins. If over the last three years we had Fickell and he continued to struggle like in 2011 people here would still be PO'ed by everyone involved with that mess.

"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes

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southernbuckeye's picture

Born and raised in Ohio. Moved to the deep south about 17 years ago. It has been an eye opener. Mrs. Meyer is spot on, the mentality down here is bizarre at times. I think part of it is ignorance, but a lot of it is this us against the rest of the country mind set southerners have. They are still fight the "war of northern aggression", as they call it down here. It's hard to appreciate the backwards thinking of the south till you have lived here for awhile.

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southernstatesbuckeye's picture

I agree one hundred and twenty million percent on this, Southern.  I've lived in Arkansas, and currently in South Carolina, and between the two, have lived in rebel states since 1990.  That attitude is permeated all through the south, believe me.  This Friday, I will be moving to Washington, D.C. to pioneer a new territory for my company in the DC/Baltimore area. 

Soooo...I will finally get to go to an opening game of a season!!!  Woo hooo!  See you yahoos at the Navy game!

yrro's picture

Well, given the level of "looking-down-on-those-rednecks" attitude I've seen around here fairly often, I don't blame them.

I grew up in Kentucky, moved to Ohio in high school. Biggest impression I got was how much time people here spend looking down on others just because they come from farther south. Even if it's the biggest hick talking.

Never made sense to me. There are idiots and good people both places, and I've enjoyed my time in both.

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11UrbzAndSpices's picture

Shelley complimented the SEC!? How can I DV her?

Does anyone know if BucksFan changed his icon?

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Hoody Wayes's picture

“The Big Ten isn’t like that,” she said. “That’s just my opinion. There is not that feel here. The intensity in the competition (in the SEC) is incredible.”

You're not going to endear yourself to folks in your old/new neighborhood, with comments like that.

Perhaps this is page one of Mrs. Meyer's plan, to return to Florida when her husband's present contract has reached its conclusion?

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

The attitude of the SEC is sadly still based on the ridiculous southern mentality left over from the civil war.  They still call anybody up north yankees, still fly the idiotic confederate flag, and they still have a massive lack of self confidence.  You see it in every single topic posted on a college football board, regardless of the subject, some jackass comes on and starts spewing how great the SEC is.  Doesn't matter what team they are actually affiliated to, they immediately take up the conference loyalty.  It feels like I'm in grade school again and am getting into a my daddy can kick your daddy's ass.  It is quite 

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Taspra's picture

While I agree with some of your points Arizona. I must respectfully disagree with a couple as well. 

I was born in Arkansas and most of my family still lives there. I've lived here well over 30 years now. You said "they still call anybody up north Yankees." They might, but do you realize how many times I see the words "hillbillies" "rednecks" and "ignorant" when referring to people from the south? Truth be told, I've actually met more "hillbillies" up north than I ever have down south. There are intelligent well educated people all over,  just as there are ignorant hillbillies. It is not a matter of your geographic location. 

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Buckeyeholicwompa's picture

You won't find this prowling around the campus on OSU game days......

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Homey1970's picture
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Buckeyeholicwompa's picture

As much as I can't stand Buck i Guy....a dude who wears a cape and a cowboy hat and strolls through town in a decked out convertible, I'd rather see that than whatever that Gator fan was wearing with that speedo and tail.

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Homey1970's picture

Superheroes have no place at a CFB game!

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BTwrestle04's picture

That dude is a moron. That car, however, is pretty sweet. Would I deck out a car like that? Absolutely not. But it seems like more of a novelty item than a daily driver. 

Buckeyeneer's picture

We do have Captain Ohio. (For some reason I can't post a picture)

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Fatpants's picture

I've spent time in Knoxville, Athens and Columbia. She's right. Those people are nuts about it. 

Compare that to Bloomington where they sit around counting the days until basketball or Evanston where they do God knows what. 

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luckynutz's picture

Precisely the point...I went to the Indiana game a few years back. Number one...its not a very big stadium. Number two...their main tailgate lot was probably 80 precent Buckeye fans. And number 3...th few fans and students that actually showed up were gone before the thrid quarter ended. Thats passion right there.

And the biggest difference between SEC country and Big Ten country is this...the amount of Pro Football teams within the footprint. Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Maryland and New Jersey all have pro teams. Compare that to Tennessee, Florida and Lousiana down there. So all they really have is their college football teams to get behind. Ohio State fans are as rabid a bunch as you will find anywhere. We follow our team anywhere they go in lage numbers. We fill the Shoe on Saturdays. And we come to 11w on a Sunday in July to conversate about an interview our coaches wife gave during the offseason. I dont think shes implying we arent passionate...lord knows shes well aware of our undying love. But look at the Iron Bowl...it divides families. In Alabama youre either a Barner or Bammer. Hell...a dude poisoned Oak trees for cruing out loud. When was the last time you heard of a fan of a Big Ten team stoop to destroying a part of nature over a football game?

I think its safe to say no one questions the passion and loyalty of our fan base. But they aure as heck can question the passion of the lower tier of the Big Ten. It doesnt come close because theres other distractions outside of football to keep them busy.

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Joebobb's picture

To add to your point, ALL SEC schools are in small college towns where you get that groupthink and the hate will feed off each other. Even the one's who have NFL teams in the state are not near the college town. In the BIG, you have Chicago, Minneapolis, Ann Arbor which is essentially a Detroit suburb, Maryland and  Rutgers, which all have NFL teams. In the SEC, Nashville and Baton Rouge are all hours away from the nearest SEC school (save Vanderbilt but they draw like Indiana) Florida is 3 hours from Tampa, Athens is 90 minutes from Atlanta. These schools are islands which is why you see the level of hate you have in the SEC. ---- Using Vandy as an example. Pro football town, stadium the size of Indiana, and they rarely even fill it. Why, because they are nto the only game in town in Nashville, and there is a diverse population that is into other things besides college football. Plus Vandy alums tend to be a little more cultured.

Poison nuts's picture

I like her! Hey - some people out there speak their minds. Nothing wrong with it. I think she's all Buckeye regardless & I won't be mad because she likes warm weather.

But If you want to go reading really hard into the words she said, you might notice that she's paying the south & the SEC a bit of a left handed compliment. You might even notice that she could be saying they are somewhat maniacal in an unhealthy way. Which they are. As Jason said above, each & every SEC school's fans are sick with their football fan-ness (it's a word), while it's just not like that in the B1G. OSU has the best fans in CFB in my opinion, and there are some other good fans elsewhere in the B1G conference, but on the whole the SEC is a more football crazy place. Probably in a bit of an unhealthy way. I mean...look at the response to Urban leaving UF - how about Toomer's corner anyone? Passionate & competitive, but super bat-shit crazy too.

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Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

Somewhere Urban Meyer is sitting on the edge of his bed, staring a pair of crumpled jorts on the floor and wondering where it all went wrong.

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KingsRite's picture

Here is a good interview of Shelley Meyer from WCMH NBC4 shortly after Urban accepted the OSU job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKZXe-24kIw

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

bleedscarlet's picture

I can understand missing Florida, the cold of winter can get to anybody, especially after you spend a few years away from it. She doesn't really champion the uber competitiveness of the sec as a reason for her missing Florida. In fact they talked their daughter into going to GT to avoid the harassment of students from the sec so I doubt she has much respect for that conference. It isn't the entire South that is so vile, just the ones that ESPN has convinced they are CFB royalty when they are really CFB's version of Joffery Baratheon.

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

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OnlyOne's picture

Did  I miss something?  Where did she say the SEC is better than the B1G.  My take from her comments are that SEC folk have their priorities messed up.  It is a sport and in the end sportmanship is what matters.  She said the SEC is "dirty and mean".  Those are not words I want associated with the B1G.  This "dirty and mean" SEC was going to kill her husband and father to her children.  It about priorities.  I hope ours always has family and sportmanship before winning. 

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Poison nuts's picture

I too believe she was not really complimenting them much...

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bucked up's picture

She's only been here for two years. She hasn't experienced Michigan week when they have actually been good and Osu has had a lackluster schedule since their arrival. The atmosphere is substantially different under different circumstances. 

as far as the SEC goes, shes correct to an extent. Many of the other B1G schools are relatively apathetic about football. Osu fans are equally as passionate about football as anybody in the SEC. But the vitriol that she saw in the south doesnt really exist up here because almost everybody in Ohio is an Osu fan. Sure, there are a few token UM or notre dame fans scattered around, but when everybody is pulling for the same school you arent going to see much heckling, vandalism or other newsworthy incidents of crazy fan behavior. It's not like that in sec states, where fans of countless other schools are clustered together, regardless of location. Those people are always at eachother's throats and, as a result, may appear to be more intense

dallavise's picture

When was the last time someone was murdered directly due to an OSU-Michigan game, and a national news story was written about it?  I think she is right.  People in the south be crazy!  I am crazy serious about OSU football, but being a fanatic and being bat shit crazy are two different things.  The south wins in the latter category by a long shot.  You always want to be #1, and even as a fan base, I think OSU can dance with anyone.  But we have to come to terms with the Big 10.  This is not its finest hour.  I think we are a few years away, but we should come back to one of the top conferences, in terms of performance. 

hit_the_couch's picture

"Now, I know ‘The Team Up North’ versus Ohio State game is pretty mean; everybody is pretty mean when that game rolls around. It’s extremely competitive, but it’s just not as mean (as the SEC). Not as dirty and mean. I hate to say that, but that’s just how it is in the South. College football is everything down there.”

Probably because they have nothing else but wraslin' and their sisters.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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BeijingBucks's picture

The SEC was based on a split household brother vs brother rebellion mindset  the states are relatively small and schools can throw grenades in each other's backyards due to close proximity. 

We need more in state hatred.  Come on indy and Turdue!  Break out the pitchforks wildcats -- we're going on a mass teabagging campaign to show who is Illinot!

just not gonna happen... Too busy working on that research grant. 

 

 

None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. ~ John Milton

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OnlyOne's picture

All of this hate for other schools - even TTUN - is stupid and childish. Former neighbor was UM grad. He is a good guy. We have fun pretending we did not like each other. But that was just a game. Current neighbor is a MSU grad and he is a great guy. We all love our school and the B1G, but we are smart and adult enough to know it's just games. While the SEC may win the NC, if they don't understand it's just a game and there will be another one next year they are losers.

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Jbucks's picture

I dont mind her comments but to say The Game isnt as intense as a common regular season SEC game is insane its thr most heated rivalry in all sports. Now there is a difference between Passionate and downright nutty! i remember seeing a story last year about a guy shooting into a group of kids bcuz they like Auburn. now thats not passion thats straight jacket CRAZY. Now when it comes to us and ichigan nothing compares like i tell everyone around me ill fight a ichigan fan just for fun but i aint got a problem buying him a beer for his broken nose and 3 for the ass whoopin OSU puts on his team. thats the difference between passion and crazy

Light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it-John 1:5 SEC meet Ohio State, Ohio State meet SEC

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ghalephoto's picture

She isn't saying not intense she is saying its not as mean, there is a respect ichigan and Ohio State have.  Intense as any game but not near as downright mean. That's the point she is making.  The meanest, no respect, damage others property in the Big Ten is the Purdue/Indiana rivalry.  They get physical, do damaging things to each others property, and downright hate the fact the other exists.  When you don't play for championships, they seem to make it up against each other.

Buckeyeholicwompa's picture

If First Lady of OSU witnessed a match up with UM like we had in 2006, she'd probably change her mind. A huge rivalry and a shot @ the NT on the line (hence both unbeaten until they play eachother) does not get any better than that!! 

Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Absolutely no problem with what she's saying.  There's no intention to slam OSU here.  She's just stating her opinion based on her experience.  If what she's saying offends you or surprises you, you must have been living under a rock for the last 10 or so years.

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ncinthenext3's picture

So the B1G can't even hate as well as the SEC?  I guess I'll take that, even though being second fiddle to that conference on most anything else sucks.

chirobuck's picture

a little off topic but was mentioned early, the whole Urban left the cupboard bare thing blows my mind, I just went on scout to look up his last 2 recruiting classes....he had a combined 10 5 star kids and tons of high ranked 4 stars......how is that leaving it bare?

 
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Buckeyeneer's picture

I had this argument with some Florida fans a couple years back. I stated the quality of his class rankings over his last couple of seasons. While I don't remember the exact number, the fans' rebuttal was that is wasn't the quality of the kids, it was the total number of athletes. They suggested that when he left the number of scholarship athletes was well below 85 due to him not recruiting enough players, guys washing out of the program, etc. 

It may be complete bunk, but 1) I wasn't sure how to confirm this and 2) I have never cared enough to do anything more than a cursory look, because well, I don't get a medal for winning internet debates. So we agreed to disagree.

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Fogt13's picture

This can be summed up in just a few words. "Other news from Flordia" I think the heat gets to people down there

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Jabba1977's picture

I despise Florida and the rest of the mighty SEC conference because I lived in Florida for five years!! The UF fans and the fans in the rest of the conference,for the most part are uneducated,ignorant and just plain stupid!!I did not like them and they did not like me!!What pissed me off the most is their lack of sportsmanship!! Their is no sportsmanship at all in the SEC conference.It just kills me that these UF fans blame UM for their problems!! If a person is 18 yrs or older,you are considered an adult.You are responsible for your own actions.Quit blaming the coach or society for your problems.These UF fans that like to blame UM for their current problems at UF,are actually just very jealous and angry at UM and THE OHIO STATE fan base because of their success,and the lack of success at UF!!!

SECHATER77

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CGroverL's picture

I have 2 things to say to Mrs. Meyer and most of you may dislike one of them because you see her as royalty. For this, I apologize:

First off is my personal, meaningless issue. I have an ex-wife. Her name is Shelley. The same spelling and everything. Although it is a very petty reason, it makes me like our first lady less.

Second and last, she and her comments about The Game vs. overall nasty football in the SEC garbage...she is lost. She saw six years of SEC football where the SEC fans (which change their favorite teams sometimes on a weekly basis because once their favorite team falls out of the national title race, they change their favorite team to whichever team either has the best record in the SEC or the highest ranking in the SEC) root for a CONFERENCE, not a team. I live in Florida, I see the men at work wearing their A&M gear on Friday only to wear their LSU gear on Monday. Sure, they are football crazy, but they root for SIXTEEN different teams. For some odd reason the SEC fans that are the most loyal to their teams are the Tennessee and South Carolina fans (When it comes to the "top-tier" teams each season, there is no loyalty). I have seen Auburn fans rooting for Alabama DURING THE IRON BOWL because an Alabama loss may make a National Title game without an SEC school in it. Sorry, Mrs. Meyer, but loyalty counts for more than a lot and you will never see an Ohio State fan rooting for M*ch*gan to beat Penn State so Michigan makes the playoffs. Our Buckeye loyalty is why. Here in the south, fans change their favorite teams yearly sometimes and then a few more times as the season rolls on. No loyalty means no real fanfare...which means no real rivalry. Without rivalry, all you have is hoopla brought to you by ESPN backed by a bunch of people that had a different favorite team last week or the week before. Ohio State has the nation's largest fanbase and we don't change our colors for ANYTHING!

After the 2012 season, 5 of the top 9 AP teams were SEC teams (with ineligible for the postseason Ohio State being ranked at #3, that really puts 5 of the top 8 teams from the SEC)...Do you know how impossible that is? The voters are JUST LIKE THE FANS...Everyone hates the most popular team and Ohio State IS the most popular team WITH EXTREMELY LOYAL FANS. Fans and voters alike hate the most popular team, too. You have seen 2 seasons of Big Ten football where the Big Ten may have been having off seasons. The Big Ten is the toughest in the trenches, toughest when it comes to linebackers and defenses as a whole, AND those years are already back. It is just hard to see because no one trusts a team like Northwestern (even though they beat 2 SEC teams in 2012) and a lot of the other teams, including Ohio State are changing styles both offensively and defensively. The same thing happens every few years in EVERY conference and since your husband has left the SEC, they just lost their string of National Titles (that shows a downtrend there). Parity is alive and well in college football and things change. The Big Ten had the best conference for the better part of a half-century. You've seen 2 years of it (in 2 of its down years following its best team). You'll change your mind....but the thing is....the FANS make the games, and the SEC is a conference that is full of disloyal fans. Tell me when you find a disloyal Big Ten fan TO ANY TEAM in the Big Ten.........Besides....the Big Ten had 3 teams ranked in the top 18 in total offense last season while having 3 teams ranked in the top 7 in total defense. The Big Ten IS strong, they are just hated...that is the problem. See, people just dismiss Indiana as an easy win for Ohio State. The Hoosiers averaged over 500 yards of offense per game in 2013 which ranked 7th in the nation...and that was Indiana, one of the perennial bottom feeders of the Big Ten. Their game against Ohio State ended up being close...Ohio State was 6th in total offense last season. Become a TRUE BUCKEYE, Mrs. Meyer. We have the biggest and best fan base in all of college football. Welcome to it...

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Ardyb's picture

She speaks the truth. As a buckeye in Florida I can attest that football down here is priority. People down south think Ohio St is a joke.  If your an athlete in a big time school down south you're getting hooked up. The towns people take REALLY GOOD CARE of athletes down here. You get nice cars, immunity to crime, women or anything you can think of. The dirty south indeed. No one plays by the rules down here.

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CowCat's picture

IMO Shelley's B1G vs. SEC comments are basically, "They're a bunch of crazy southern hicks.   You don't understand how crazy southern hicks can be".

I think she's glad to be back in Ohio, where things are still intense, but more civil.   Even at THE GAME we're able to not poison trees or tea-bag each other.

It's also enlightening that the MIGHTY SEC has only been mighty with coaches from Ohio or West Virginia (Meyer, Miles, Saban), or by acquiring lower-level teams from the Big 12 (Mizzou, A&M).   I'm saving popcorn for the day that Saban retires, just to enjoy their tears.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

mkosu73's picture

This is some of the crap I have to put up with down here. Ryan and Booger..Tampa Bay's supposedly #1 sports talk radio show. Ryan states (in all seriousness). "Jameis Winston is one of the top 5 college quarterbacks OF ALL TIME!" And "no matter what happens to the NCAA the SEC will dominate college football for the next 20 years". Seriously? Seriously? What a bunch of bullsh*t.

Mkosu73

OH1O State's picture

I moved to Florida after high school... lived there for 5 years (including the '06, '07 N.C.).  Where I lived, there was a lot of passion for the south and for the SEC as a conference... 
Was there more passion for football than I have seen in Columbus?? Absolutely not.  In fact, I was baffled by the pro-SEC attitude down there instead of a pro-(whatever your team is) attitude.  It seemed like everyone routed for whichever team was representing the SEC. 

It's almost like SEC fans use football as a form of redemption; to feel victorious (as humans) against the rest of the country....

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