Video: Eric Glover-Williams Involved in a Fight with Teammate

By DJ Byrnes on April 22, 2014 at 11:51a
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UPDATE 10:30 p.m. And... YouTube pulled the video.

UPDATE 3:15 p.m. Here's grainy footage of the altercation Eric Glover-Williams was involved in, a fight with a McKinley teammate.

Glover-Williams is in the dark shirt (audio is NSFW).


For about a week now, rumors have swirled around a possible fight between Eric Glover-Williams — the first commit of the 2015 class — and another member of the Canton McKinley football team.

Now, it appears there's some fire to the smoke. From The Canton Repository:

There was a relatively serious altercation involving McKinley quarterback Eric Glover-Williams and another McKinley player during the school day last week at the high school. New McKinley football coach Thom McDaniels declined to comment on the situation, other than to confirm there was an altercation between Glover-Williams and a player who is a senior.

It is too early to say [what this means]. The school will conduct an investigation and review video footage of the altercation — yes some people taped it using their cellphones. Glover-Williams did not play in a McKinley baseball game in the middle of the week.

The result of the school investigation could mean anything from a suspension to an expulsion, the latter of which would all but wipe out Glover-Williams’ senior season at McKinley. That isn’t likely to happen, but time will tell when the investigation is finished.

Obviously, Glover-Williams' status with Ohio State would be in serious jeopardy if the kid is expelled or even suspended for a serious amount of time.

It's important to remember Glover-Williams is innocent until proven guilty, and if he wasn't the aggressor of the fight, then it's hard to see why he should be held criminally responsible for defending himself. 

Regardless, the hits just seem to keep on coming in regards to the 2015 recruiting class.

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pcuzz1's picture

Good news has to be right around the corner...right!? But hopefully this is not as bad as it sounds. Kid is a dynamic athlete. But if he can not get it together off the field, the staff needs to cut ties

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DJ Byrnes's picture

 

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BuckeyeVet's picture

DJ - Please consider removing this video. There's no way we can give it proper context, having not been there. And this is a minor.

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SilverBullet-98's picture

He Gone.

Next...

"The Past Builds the Future"

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seafus26's picture

I don't pretend to know details of this incident. However, who didn't get in a fight in school and even with a teammate at some point. Now if he sucker punched or was part of a jumping of another student, I don't  approve (like it matters if i approve I'm just a poster on a website). The coaches will handle it. Boys will be boys and throw hands from time to time.

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livinthedream's picture

SEAFUS26 - You took the words right off my keyboard.  Only difference between when i was (or we were) in school is we didn't have cell phones / camera's and the buildings weren't wrapped in a blanket of closed circuit.  D J's correct, innocent until proven guilty so lets wait until there are "facts".  As for Johnny-shame,  U should be Johnny-ashamed.

 

yrro's picture

No, the real difference is that when we were in school there wasn't this zero tolerance "violence is always wrong, m'kay" mentality that punishes everyone any time there is a fight.

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cinserious's picture

Except for the douchebag that usually starts the shit. They usually get off scott free.

Gone ham, be back soon...

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skid21's picture

How long ago were you in high school? I can say it has been decades since I was in high school and it was the same policy then. If you are involved in a fight you are suspended. I'm not saying I ever agreed with the policy but it is anything but new.

Johnny-Shane_Utah-Falco's picture

whatever, man...I'd still like to see your or anybody tell me how that 82% statistic is a good thing

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Denny's picture

Just stop it.

Taquitos.

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SilverBullet-98's picture

Personally, I have no problem with kids/young men getting in little scraps over a disagreement. Kinda along the line of Marcus Lattrell coments to the team at the spring practice.

From some of the comments I've read, a lot seem to think he won't be here next year. I should know better than to assume, I'm hoping it was something hyperbole by social media. But I havn't been getting them vibes til just now.

I hope I'm wrong and this is a big mis-understanding. But if he ends up being in the wrong.... well.

"The Past Builds the Future"

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Buckabroad's picture

Sorry for the language, but shit rolls downhill. I hope we get some good news soon to break this trend.

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

m5987usus's picture

The bad before........the good?

O-H!

USMC11917's picture

I wouldn't judge him harshly for a first time incident. Unfortunately this isn't the first time.  I'm not anti-fighting. If there were more tolerance for it I think there would be less critical incidents in our schools. If this is proven to be initiated by him instead of self defense, I would write him off regardless of talent. Need more details before I jump to conclusions.

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buckeyedude's picture

Fighting in hockey is fairly common. What's the big deal? Unless of course EGW slammed a security guard down on his head, then I'd have a problem with it.

 

 

ODEEZ330's picture

The vid shows the rb attacking him and trying to suplex him first when egw is in the bathroom. Egw was defending himself but the amount of damage he did concerns me. Hopefully all works out it's proven he was just defending himself. If no expulsion he should keep scholly. Glad urban n McDaniel are waiting for all facts to emerge. He's probably the best baseball player in stark county too so that sucks for his team

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DJ Byrnes's picture

If he was attacked, then he has a right to disable his attacker until he's sure the assault can't be continued. *bangs gavel* SO I HAVE DECREED.

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Is there a way I can upvote this?

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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bedheadjc's picture

...and after the attacker is disabled? (Assuming the rumors of him continuing the assault are true.)

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D-Day0043's picture

Way back when I was in school, when I was attacked I beat their a$$ until I couldn't beat it anymore, to make sure that it never happened again. It was also a lesson to anyone else who thought about jumping me. 

Don't start $hit unless you are willing to pay the consequences, and if you're a bully, then you definitely deserve to get your a$$ beat and shown no mercy.

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D-Day0043's picture

An up vote for one of the best movies of all time Imho.

People may think I am being too harsh, but if you have ever been ganged up on and bullied you would understand. I don't believe in starting fights, but if you are jumped, then in my opinion that person should be shown no mercy. If you do, then the bullying will continue. That has been my personal experience. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and if people don't agree with it that is fine. I am not going to tell anyone what they should believe.

 

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BUCK-I-FAN's picture

It's all good D-Day I think most everyone has been picked on or bullied at least once in their life. 

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MoEddieRobtCarlosBeanie's picture

Fights happen, and bullies do deserve to get beat..

But I don't know about the "Beat there a** until I can't beat them anymore" mentality.

Nothing is more disgusting than if a guy wins a fight and then won't stop after he wins. I always thought that was a sign of someone having some demons in his head or something.

Exceptions for child molesters and terrorists.. sure... but not school bullies. As lame as that is, they don't deserve to be put in comas.

I haven't seen the video.. But if I do and I see EGW beating on an unconscious guy, I'm going to have to wish him up north.

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Zimmy07's picture

How do you know what the vid shows?  I mean that as a simple question, not as an attack - is it available online or something?  I really don't want to watch it I just am hoping that what you say about it being self defense is right.

Edit - it now occurs to me that there is probably a video where I see a blank space in the article.  I should have thought of that possibility before I posted (sorry!).  A few different video formats are blocked because apparently they caught some people at work watching movies while people were having trouble trying to download stuff they needed for work.

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A word to the wise: this site is not an appropriate place to speculate about a high schooler's home life or sociological conditions. Any further speculation about a recruit's family life will be deleted.

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RBuck's picture

Beat me to the punch.

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Denny's picture

Thanks for that.

Taquitos.

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Ethan's picture

Much appreciated. Thank you

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BuckeyeVet's picture

100% agree. And PLEASE take this video down. Personal opinion - it should not be up anywhere, let alone on 11W. Also, EGW is still a minor, I believe.

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jaxbuckeye's picture

Yet you (as in Eleven Warriors) post a video of a minor?  

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TheBadOwl's picture

And yet nobody was upset when the Jayru Campbell video surfaced. People were entirely too giddy about that.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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Nicholas Jervey's picture

That's not the case at all. If you'll look at the stories and message board thread about Campbell (story 1story 2, and thread) you'll see that very few people made light of the situation. Out of 119 combined reader comments, I count five that made light of the situation. None of them were happy about a video surfacing.

Furthermore, this is not speculation about a minor and we're not being exploitative. It's the actual video, and if anything is going to prevent speculation, it's seeing what actually happened.

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TheBadOwl's picture

Oh, I have no problem with 11W running this video–it is on Youtube, after all–I'm just saying that nobody aired concerns like that when the Campbell video surfaced.

And perhaps "giddy" was the wrong word to use. Thanks for linking those threads, I just remember being kind of shocked at some of the stuff I was reading, guess I remembered the bad ones. And even with the video evidence against Campbell, I just don't like seeing people call him a thug. I kind of cringe whenever someone refers to a black athlete as a thug, to me it's a dog whistle term. People called Terrelle Pryor a thug for getting tattoos and called Richard Sherman a thug for talking too loudly during an interview. But I digress.

And maybe it was in a different thread, but I remember catching a lot of crap for saying that I hoped Jayru could get his life back on track, because it's sad seeing a 17-year-old kid throw his life away.

I think that a lot of people lose sight of the fact that we're all watching these 17-year-old kids under a microscope and expecting them to act like adults. People here keep complaining about Torrence Gibson and calling him a drama queen, but honestly, if I was a top-10 player in the country, I'd enjoy the process a bit, too.

We don't actually know these kids, so I hate seeing speculation about their character. A lot of people forget how naive they were as 17-year-olds, too. 

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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Barnsey69's picture

"I wonder..."

Anything that starts out like that implies no actual research was done.Common sense would dictate that not having one or both parents in the home can be impactfull, and potentially in a negative way with regard to a child's nurture etc. However, assuming that about this particular young man without any proof is unnecessary and has nothing to do with how it would affect his standing with OSU, which is kinda what we discuss here.

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BuckToAsT's picture
 
Me after reading this post:

 

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dubjayfootball90's picture

Sucks man... Absolutely terrible. Hope everything gets resolved THE RIGHT WAY. Whichever way that is will be determined shortly.

BUCKfutter's picture

This kind of stuff happens in locker rooms all the time.  I played two sports in high school and witnessed multiple locker room fights in both (and I went to what many would describe as a rich, stuck-up suburban Columbus high school).  The rise of the cellphone camera is why this is all of a sudden a big deal.  It's like many other things in life - it's always been going on, it just seems worse now because we actually can see it.

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BUCKfutter's picture

hahahaha correctamundo

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

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Codeezy's picture

Why are we all so negative about this? Dude got in a fight at school. None of us knows how the next 13 months play out before he graduates, so let's just chill on pretending we know anything about this young man and his future, which is entirely in his hands still at this point. 

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FROMTHE18's picture

so whens this roller coaster ride of recruiting heading upwards? Feel like the only good news we've heard for a long time is that kids enjoy our campus and Meyer, and some of those kids have committed elsewhere. Come on momentum.

Jeremy Birmingham's picture

It's best to just let these situations play out before commenting on them. We had heard rumors about this middle of last week but nothing good can come from speculation. Hopefully, whatever help EGW needs he gets, he's an incredibly talented young man who is going to be learning some valuable life lessons, namely how important it is to think before you act. Don't allow yourself to be provoked knowing how much you have on the line. Sad situation all the way around.

Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

So was he provoked or attacked?

CincyOSU's picture

I'm withholding judgement until I hear the video breakdown from Mindy Drayer

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Buckeyeneer's picture

And if she can have a dog wandering around in the background, all the better.

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BuckeyeJ's picture

Schools now a days have a ZERO policy on any fighting. Even if you are defending yourself. Most likely he will face a suspension, and the rb will prob face a stiffer punishment. Stuff like this happens all the time. Not the first time "boys" have fought over a girl  lol

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irishfury's picture

Yeah good thing I was never College Calibar football player.  I was in quite a few scuffles in high school.  

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AlwayzABuckeye614's picture

Who cares, it was a fight. It happens hundreds of fimes a day throughout High School, this just so happens to be a potential scholarship athlete. Rumor is that he was defending himself, lets not jump down his throat talking about on to the next one or whatever. Let the facts come out before we judge. 

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One Bad Buckeye's picture

Hopefully it can be proved that the RB disrespected a female and EGW was simply defending her honor (aka treating with respect) then he would be in perfect compliance with one of Urban's fundamental team rules, no? 

In regards to the actual fight? I grew up doing organized boxing and wrestling, yet I've somehow avoided ever being in a "fight" for 33 years.  That being said, if someone sucker punched me or tried to suplex me, that person would have no doubt that they had been in a fight.  

I'd love to catch one of those "knock out" punks in the act.  Mercy, I would not show.  

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Mercy, I would show not.  

 

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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Poison nuts's picture

Funny is this comment.

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toad1204's picture

Looks at watch... 364 days ago Marcus Baugh got in trouble.  Things happen in the off season.  Hold judgment ala the Carlos Hyde situation last summer.  I'm glad I never made any mistakes when I was younger...

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

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One Bad Buckeye's picture

 

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Ethos's picture

LOL my 2 year old daughter does this on a daily basis.  

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Osurrt's picture

Thought that was a gif of a ScUM RB trying to hit the 2 hole

harleymanjax's picture

I'm withholding judgment until I see a Mindy Drayer diagram of the incident...

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

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hit_the_couch's picture

Lolz.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

Ethos's picture

If it was a fight between two dudes arguing in a bathroom, then ok whatever, if it was a fight in the shape of what we saw that MSU recruit do to that security guard, next guy up.

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36buck's picture

A co workers neighbor coaches at McKinley. He told me a year ago this kid was bad news.   Never said anything till now.  Just what I've been told.  

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Buckeyevstheworld's picture

 Never said anything till now.

So we're ignoring that you already said this in another thread? :/

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

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jaxbuckeye's picture

We're talking a high school fight man?  A high school fight?  This ain't even practice. We're talking a high school fight man. 

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bigbadbuck's picture

It is what it is and until we know all the facts we just have to let it sit.

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Killer nuts's picture

That video didn't look terrible but also didn't show the entire altercation

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iBuckeye's picture

Was this recorded with a potato? It's 2014. Why is the video quality so horrendous? You can literally count the pixels on the video -- And there are not that many lol

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Poison nuts's picture

42 potato pixels.

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BassDropper's picture

is EDW the kid in the black? and was the kid in the black crying at the end of the video? pass.

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Killer nuts's picture

Aside from ignorantly passing judgment on a teenager, let's at least get his initials correct. EGW

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BassDropper's picture

how was I passing judgement? My post was more matter of fact. I asked which one he was and I asked if the kid in the black shirt crying at the end of the video....not sure what you're getting at, bud

DIRECTIONER

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AlwayzABuckeye614's picture

Yes EGW is in the black, the taller kid looked to be the JD Crabtree guy that also plays football. 

At the end there is a guy in front of the camera who has a Massillon Shirt on, thats weird.

EDIT: Crabtree plays for Massillon.

BuckeyeNation17's picture

As a former student of McKinley, who went to school with both of these individuals. I can tell you, that "Massillon" shirt was our rivalry shirts from a few years ago and the entire shirt says "Beat Massillon." In addition  the other student was our starting running back last year. 

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Stoicpaisano's picture

McDaniels has only had the job for six weeks, he did a great job molding kids from tough backgrounds (see: Clarett, Burgess, Manningham) at Harding for awhile and this is his second go around at McK. Hopefully he'll get through to EGW and his teammate. 

BEREABUCKEYE's picture

Not sure which one is EGW but doesn't seem like much....until you see all the blood on the floor at the end. Hope they're both ok and EGW makes it to OSU next year.

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Horvath22's picture

Cincinnati, West Virginia, North Carolina State and Minnesota are lining up.

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OSUnathen's picture

Would like to hear more details of the fight until I'd make any judgements.

hit_the_couch's picture

As long as it wasn't a blatant assault or repeat incident, then I don't really see a problem. It happens from time to time. It's high school kids. Suspend them a week and let it be.

That being said, I am willing to donate $10 worth of the change in the bottom of my couch, so the videographer can purchase a new cell phone and preferably one from this century. I have seen movie clips from 1890's with better quality than whatever was used in this short film/ documentary.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

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BuckeyeWags's picture

Future QB and 3 year captain...not.

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buckeyecityterror's picture

EGW was clearly emotional by the end of the fight and seemed like (from here) he didn't wanna fight. I mean, he said things like. 'I love you' and 'stop playin with me.' Sounds like things just got outta hand. Hope he gets this figured out because this is nothing that most high school kids haven't been through.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress.

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InvertMyVeer's picture

At my high school they suspended anyone involved with fighting period, I had to spend a week in ISS once for helping to break up a fight I had nothing to do with.

Football is complicated...

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buckeyecityterror's picture

Yeah. I got 3 days ISS (worst punishment ever) for taking my bookbag off and looking like i was gonna fight. Most school's administrations don't play games.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress.

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iamcbs's picture

It's really sad to be 16/17-years-old and have to live your life in a 'fishbowl' with people who don't know you or anything about you dissecting and commenting on every aspect of your life. As Birm so aptly stated, nothing good can come from speculation. EGW is a child, let's allow he and his family some privacy to deal with this situation, which btw isn't unique to HS or athletics. Being a Fan doesn't give anyone the right to invade this boy's life, especially the comments about his family, whom the person that posted probably doesn't know. This is the reason I quit following recruiting with more than a cursory interest. I'll be back on NLOI Day, until then leave these children alone!!

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Go1Bucks's picture

I only have to say that I wish these kids would learn, that they are under a microscope as players wanting to go to ANY major program for their sports.  How one acts in life is considered a mirror to how they represent the organization they are involved in.  There have been many an example of other players elsewhere and the results which affect their lives going forward.  I hope this situation works itself out for his benefit and ours, but I again wish this message would be promoted more by high school teams and their coaches so as to prevent a reoccurrence by any other players.

Go Bucks!

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Orangeslash's picture

If that is the video they're going to base judgement off of, I don't see how any action could come of it. It was maybe 1 pixel.

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gutterwaste's picture

Didn't watch it with the sound on, but what I find most disturbing is how much it looks like the kid in black is wearing a diaper.  

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OSUMyke's picture

So why is he in hot water all he did was stop the kid from swinging holding him till he gave up. I think he handled that situation very well. Was he supposed to let the dude punch him in the face. My guess is no, He stopped the fight with out anyone really being harmed. He held the guy till he gave up instead of actually fighting. I have been in a ton of fights in my life and that looked like trying to break a fight up more than fighting. Good Job Mr. Glover

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Squirrel Master's picture

well it looks like he did throw a few punches when the other player got loose, but it was more of a "be aggressive before the other guy gets an advantage" type of hitting. Just a few punches.

not saying punching is acceptable but I saw nothing of aggressive behavior to instigate the fight and just a kid who was emotional about being attacked. And was obviously the better fighter, which shouldn't be his fault.

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Squirrel Master's picture

EGW, the one in the black shirt, obviously was trying to avoid fighting and was holding him in a lock while the grey shirt player was trying to get loose to fight more. When he broke the lock, EGW (who seems quite fast in a fight too) did throw those punches and get him on the ground again but again tried to hold him down and stop fighting.

Doesn't look pretty but from what I gather there, EGW didn't want to fight, tried not to fight but was the better fighter in the end. Can't really fault him for be better at fighting when approached. Doesn't look to me like a behavioral issue for EGW. Kids who have bad attitudes don't walk away like that after easily winning and scream those things. Sounds like he was very upset it happened.

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buckeyecityterror's picture

100% agree. Been in many fights like this spur of the moment. No question he didn't want to fight but just got the better of the other kid. Screaming 'I fucking love you n***a' after a fight is clear remorse.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress.

Braxton2Devin's picture

High school is such a fucking joke these days. I got ISS (in-school suspension) for a day a week ago for wearing a book-bag (my school doesn't allow us to bring our bookbags to classes or wear them in the hallways). I'm guessing he will get OSS for a week...

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DefenceWinsChampionships's picture

Umm instead of saying school is a joke, maybe you should follow the rules? You just said your school doesn't allow you to take bookbags to class or carry them in the halls... so dont. If you dont want to get in trouble, dont break the rules. Its really that simple. All it takes is one student with a knife in his bag to get in a fight between classes and shank his classmate. The rules are the way they are for a reason. That said zero tolerance is the policy and fighting is a HUGE no no, no matter how small the incident is (judging by the blood, this was no small incident). I would expect both to get 10 days OSS minimum. Likely more.

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Braxton2Devin's picture

LOL kids have been wearing backbags since school was invented.... Everyone at school knows the rule is a joke. I can't think of another school in my county or even the state that enforces this rule. And I only wore it one day because it is simply impossible to carry 4 textbooks, 7 binders, etc....

Denny's picture

LOL kids have been wearing backbags since school was invented

Pay more attention in history class.

Taquitos.

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Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

And I only wore it one day because it is simply impossible to carry 4 textbooks, 7 binders, etc....

Really? Somehow I (and generations of other kids) managed to do it. Heck, my freshman year was at a HS where you were only allowed to stop at your lockers once a day, thus forcing you to carry 3 or 4 periods worth of materials at all times.

The real issue is you have a lot of growing up to do.

Buck Commander's picture

He appeared to be on the defense from what I seen.And he walked away and the other kid started in his direction........Didn't see the whole video though....lotsa blood on the floor????????

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osu07asu10's picture

That's it???

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Buckeye Knight's picture

I'm going to let this play out, but that didn't look anywhere near as bad as I heard earlier.

 

I'm also waiting for Mindy Drayer and her dog to tell us a bunch of lies...

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teddyballgame's picture

That video is so tough to watch.  There are literally dozens of pixels.
 

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DannyBeane's picture

It almost reminds of the early days of youtube.

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DannyBeane's picture

Does anyone else agree with me that with the exception of National Signing Day and the Spring Game, off seasons are pretty much terrible vacuums of suckiness?

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SilverBullet33's picture

As a Canton resident and McKinley grad let me tell you this isn't an isolated incident.  There is a pattern of behavior that has went on for a couple years now.  I try to put myself in his shoes with the scrutiny and adulation, but I can't imagine the pressure he feels.  That shouldn't be an excuse to act a fool on and off the field.  Coach McD will help make a decision on what's best and I pray that it leads to some changed behavior.  But there is a large part of me that sees another Canton kid throwing away opportunity that will set him up for life.  I'm a cynic, but since he's a Bulldog I'll let this play out.

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MichaelJ721984's picture

The only disgusting thing I saw in this video was the 'Beat Massillon' shirt. GO TIGERS!

Seriously, the stories that were being thrown out there, they made EGW sound like he was pummeling the kid when he was unconscious. That was more of a tussle than a fight. He and Jarrod Smith (who is a pretty good ball player in his own right) need to put the BS behind em and focus on having a good season for the BullShits... errr Dogs this upcoming season.  

BUCKfutter's picture

There were worse "fights" than that during the circle drill at the spring game.  It's competitive sports.  People fight.  That's it; nothing more nothing less.

the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up! - JLS

-1 HS
Scott's picture

Context is important. It doesn't matter if worse things happen on the football field; you don't do that shit in school.

Class of 2008

+5 HS
DBell8's picture

No judgments can be made until one hears both sides of the story. A grainy video taken in the middle of the "fight" can't be used to draw conclusions... I'm sure if it was terrible then EGW will be off the scholarship board, and if he it wasn't his fault then he will have to be clean until he arrives at OSU in order to keep his scholarship. We can't draw conclusions about the kids family, life, anything from just rumors and a video.

+1 HS
dan_isaacs's picture

Anyone wanna take a shot at a transcript?  Dude might have some mental health issues.

Dan Isaacs

-6 HS
irishfury's picture

Dude wtf type comment is this.  I was a high schooler once with tons of hormones and in tussle I blew up like this as well.  

-2 HS
JoeDooder's picture

Jayru Campbell is not impressed. 

+2 HS
D-Day0043's picture

Were they fighting or fu**ing? From that video I couldn't tell the difference.

I am D-Day0043 and I approve this message.

+1 HS
Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

From what I saw, the fight didn't look that bad. Don't know who started it tho. Not a good rep EGW is building tho. 

+2 HS
lilOSUwiz's picture

I hardly ever post but I enjoy reading everyones comments. first off you cant judge a kid from a minute long video. As a inner city teacher these kids live a tougher life in todays world then we fail to realize. No one knows the back story, no one knows what caused the incident. He is a kid, lets not pretend that we were all perfect little angles growing up in high school. We all make mistakes and some of us many mistakes. Imagine when you were high school if they had this kind of technology following you around.  Its the change that makes the man in you. Maybe a change of scenery (OSU) or wherever he goes will be good for him. We are adults and instead of passing judgment on a kid we need to be the mature ones. Talking about this incident like i see above is no better than what 16 year olds do to each other. We all make mistakes and hopefully their is enough of a man in that school or town to show and give him support that he needs in a time like this. They are kids guys, children. Its a tough world for these kids lets not pretend and this online gossip is disgusting. Cheers and enjoy this april day. 

-1 HS
NH-IO's picture

I certainly wasn't a perfect little angle growing up, but some people still thought I was acute.  Probably more would describe me as obtuse.  Seriously though, you're a teacher?  Wow.  That explains a lot, I'm afraid.

+2 HS
hodge's picture

I always tried to keep myself on the right path, personally -- even if I occasionally did find myself running tangent to that goal.

+1 HS
bdegroff's picture

Didn't 11w have a story about two months ago concerning EGW and an incident? Another thing, why did the other kid want to fight him? I'll be interested to see what the whole story is. But right now, I'm losing interest in this kid. At some point HE needs to realize the opportunity he has and do what he can to avoid the BS of high school.

+1 HS
WhySoSerious's picture

Seems to me like he warned the dude, and the dude obvislousy wanted to test him. Seems to me like that was a bad idea. Egw the future is bright, but sometimes we all gotta learn how to walk away. 

Rare&Uncommon

Like the ball in the stands, we balls out

BenArazi4's picture

First he steals, now this?  Let the kid go.  

 
 
 

-1 HS
Deadly Nuts's picture

EGW was practicing for when the wolverweenie kickoff team tries to ransack him.

LEBRON

+11 HS
AngryWoody's picture

 

Our Honor Defend!

+8 HS
Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

As others stated previously...really, that's it?

I have no idea what led up to the confrontation but there is nothing in that video that gives me concern about EGW's behavior.

-1 HS
BenArazi4's picture

 

Your concern about his behavior should be him stealing about a month ago..

 
 
 

-1 HS
Dirty330Buckeye's picture

There have been no charges or anything from him stealing so I am beginning to wonder if that really happened or if it was just a rumor to ruin the kid.

-1 HS
Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

I tend pay attention to things that can be documented & proven rather than rumor mongering by anonymous netizens.

If there are real issues than the Ohio State coaching staff is already aware of them and will handle the situation as they feel is best. That's one of the responsibilities that goes along with the job. If they fail in properly vetting kids they'll eventually be looking for work elsewhere.

I feel no need to climb up on a soapbox & make proclamations after every half baked story without knowing the majority of the facts.

-1 HS
AngryWoody's picture

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, but this video does not look good for EGW. He's been in trouble before and if this turns out to be as bad as it looks I think the coaches are going to have to have some serious second thoughts about him. I hate seeing young people lose opportunities over one stupid decision, but this could be a real problem. We'll see where it goes when the school is done investigating, but don't be surprised if he's not on the team here soon.

Our Honor Defend!

+1 HS
buckguyfan1's picture

My brother and I had bigger battles over the tooth paste at that age.

+7 HS
Deadly Nuts's picture

I loved the days before I found recruiting sites. Back when I wouldn't follow all this crazy stuff and Ohio State was automatically good every year.

LEBRON

+10 HS
HotSauceCommittee's picture

Are we sure that wasn't an old ECW wrestling match? It sure wasnt WWE quality. 

Buckeye419er's picture

He was quite obviously be harassed in some form or fashion by the other dude. He's clearly yelling out in the video "Stop messing with me, I'm not playing". "I don't want to do this sh*t, IT'S NOT ME." (it's not in his character to fight). Someone was probably non stop talking sh*t till he snapped. It happens. That's typical HS type stuff. Kids get jealous or want to prove something because they're immature and looking to lash out at someone. EGW is an easy target. He's in the lime light. 

skid21's picture

I don't think Urban will be as forgiving as most people here. He can't be. It isn't like EGW hasn't already put himself in a position to be scrutinized. These kids should know by this point in high school that with all the privileges comes a higher standard. It isn't only true with athletes. Any kid can lose their scholarship for getting suspended or expelled. Colleges judge you on your behavior as much, if not more, than anything else. If you are trying to get into an higher tier university you best not be in situations like this, your fault or not. Try applying to an Ivy League school with a video out there like this. Kids need to start thinking like this very early these days. I don't always agree with it but it is reality whether we like it or not. There is a ton of pressure on kids very early in life these days. I just hope there is some explanation that will allow Urban to give this kid yet another shot.
 

+2 HS
Poison nuts's picture

I myself dabbled in pacifism once...

"Death created time to grow the things that it would kill" - Detective Rustin Cohle.

+1 HS
Fuzzbuck's picture

Got a lot of time to figure out what really happened here before he signs a LOI. Better to know now that he has issues ( if any) now instead of after next February.

+1 HS
pcuzz1's picture

This whole offseason thing has not been too buckeye friendly these last two years. Is it time for kickoff yet?

pat cozzens

KBonay's picture

My sources tell me this fight was over a 'One Direction' T-Shirt.....

+1 HS
Killer nuts's picture

Was EGW fighting Bassdropper? The story is coming together 

Buckeye_in_SEC_country's picture

Land Grant Holy Land is reporting that EGW has officially been suspended from school. Doesn't specify how many days tho. 

SilverBullet33's picture

I can confirm he's already missed 2 baseball games as a result.  As for how long he's suspended...no clue.

buckguyfan1's picture

Let's hope EGW can be saved.

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B1G 10 Buckeye Stuck in SEC Country's picture

Mop to clean up all that blood

" Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid." - John Wayne 

Shangheyed's picture

Good to know now rather that when he is in the program... He should be given a second chance, but his schollie should be pending his reform.

chitown buckeye's picture

I've walked passed things like that going to a fight.

"I'm having a heart attack!"

+1 HS
Killer nuts's picture

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