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nburns18's picture
March 18, 2014 at 11:50pm
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Without being biased, what is everyone's opinion or projection on when Urban brings a national title to Ohio State? Does he win multiple titles before retirement? Zero titles? 

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MacG91's picture

Its so hard to tell, as we saw last year one play changed bama's season. If I had to guess, I'd say 1 or 2 if his health remains in tact. It also depends on the matchup we get in the NC and how our QB's develop. I for one would be the happiest person in the world if he beat a sec team in the semifinal and another sec team in the final. 

Mac..yeah

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FloridaBuck's picture

As soon as Fickell gets fired.

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WezBuck28's picture

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we win a NC before this seasons sophomore class graduates..why? The players that will be on this team at that time will be all of Meyers, and the staff will be established and stable..just my guess..

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SlumLord6973's picture

WezBuck28......Good call. Need to rename you the prophet. 

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TheShookster's picture

It's so hard to win national championships, OSU could be the best team in the country this year or next year, and just one off game could screw that up. I'm all for setting the bar as high as it goes and I trust Meyer will bring the crystal ball home to Columbus eventually, but it's hard to say when.

He ain't even stretch doe!!

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OSU_ALUM_05's picture

The safest bet is zero, particularly given the new playoff format, but I kind of think he'll find a way to win at least one.

Yeti's have feelings too.

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FROMTHE18's picture

I wonder which type is more common here: The "how many will Urban Win?"/"Urban retirement" post? Or ESPN Sucks post? 

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Unky Buck's picture

They pale in comparison to the Fire Fickell threads. Those are the money makers for this website.

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d1145fresh's picture

I think it is reasonable to think that OSU will be a 'regular' in the college football playoff for the foreseeable future. I could very easily see us making it or at least being close year in and year out. Really all it takes is the right game plan and a few good plays to come out on top in a single game so I could see it happening. If I had to venture a guess I would say 2 titles in the next 10 years and a probably 4 trips to the play off game.

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Waltbuck's picture

Let's win a BIG championship first!

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Jeremypreemo81's picture

Wish I could upvote this.  First thing to do is worry about the BIG and then the National Title but for the sake of the post I think we win multiple championships

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HilltopHustle's picture

Well said. So many people want to thump national titles, but the reality of the situation is that Ohio State hasn't won the conference in four years (2010), and that one supposedly didn't happen. I think this changes in Miller's senior season.

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HilltopHustle's picture

It'd be easier to predict and fantasize if we set a number for the years remaining in Meyer's tenure. Assuming he stays at Ohio State for another decade (10 years) from now and the conference remains at its current talent level, my expectations for the program are:

  • 7 division titles and B1G title games
    • Natural attrition will still produce "down years", and we'll give TTUN, MSU and PSU the benefit of the doubt to share the B1G East three times
  • Of those 7 B1G title games, I'd expect to win 5
    • A 5-2 record would suffice, and the two losses could be upsets in their own regard
  • Of those 5 B1G championships, I'd expect 4 of those to earn us Playoff bids
    • For parody, we'll say we have 1 or 2 losses going into the B1G title game already
  • Of those 4 Playoff bids, we get into the National Championship Final twice
    • 2-2 would be great considering we'll probably be playing an SEC team nearly every time
  • Of those 2 Final appearances, we win 1 National Championship

I'm hardly a homer fan, and the above would be perfect and make me more than content with our state of affairs under Meyer. There's of course a few variables here such as: 1.) Michigan making a home run hire a la James Franklin (Harbaugh?) and maintain recruiting prowess (starting to slow down); 2.) James Franklin getting Penn State back on track, which currently appears to be the case; and 3.) Our OOC schedule actually merits some VERY good opponents over the next decade (Oregon, Oklahoma, Texas, TCU).

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nburns18's picture

Id be very happy with this happening. 

"You win with people." -Woody Hayes

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Seattle Linga's picture

Agreed It'll be awesome - The Chase has begun

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Lets HOPE the OOC games that are scheduled remain marquis matchups.  Remember, Cal was a perennial top 15-20 team when they were scheduled, VA Tech has been a top 10-15 team consistently, and Miami (FL) was a juggernaut.  Everything is cyclical-just think, I'm sure Miami (FL) thought they were scheduling a top 5 opponent in tOSU when we paid them a visit, so it goes to show how things can change.

 

Pain don't hurt-Dalton

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Establish a solid foundation - win some Big Ten titles, get some high profile wins in bowl games and key out of conference games.  That's what I'm looking for - and if one or two of those seasons result in national titles, then great.  But let's start with 1 before we start talking about not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6...

Class of 2010.

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Hovenaut's picture

I have high hopes (just like a good Buckeye fan), but taking it day by day.

My eyes on August 30th, versus Navy.

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jamesrbrown322's picture

Don't forget how hard it truly is to win titles. It took the Buckeyes 34 years from one to another, to win in 2002, without the SEC being what it is, and the backing that eSECpn currently gives it. They had plenty of close calls in that time. Being completely honest, I think Meyer might get fed up and walk away without winning one, but I hope I am wrong. Being in MSU, UM, and PSU's division will only make it increasingly more difficult as time wears on, but then again, who knows?

Quite literally anything can happen in CFB. Remember, if RichRod and WVU beat Pitt in 2007, OSU probably wins a title and Miles goes to UM. So things can really change in a heartbeat.

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

Urban Meyer won't even have a roster full of his recruits for another couple of years. I think once the roster is stock full of Urbans recruits then we will be able to judge more accurately. If Urban stays for a decent amount of time 10 - 15 years, I 100% believe he will win at least two NC's. 

"You're damn right thats daddy" - Urban Meyer 

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sivaDavis's picture

I truly believe 3. With one coming as soon as next season. 2015 season. One later on down the road and one the last year Urban is here and leaves this great University. 2015 will be interesting because I think that will be the year the talent gap between OSU and the B1G shows out in all of its glory and will be the best time for OSU to make a run. They play a good school that completely kills their decent conference and makes it in as the 3 seed like Okie State in the semi's and play an SEC school in the final which they win after being battle tested by B1G play and beating a quality opponent in the semis. Just my view

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

OSU wins the Big 10 title by shutting out Wisconsin, then barely slips into the CFB playoffs over TCU and Baylor, then upsets NO. 1 Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, and then flattens Oregon in the national title game despite turning over the ball four (4) times. 2014 is OSU's year. Mark it down.......Undisputed......all with a 3rd string QB named Jones. (Braxton not fully recovered from surgery & Barrett gets injured in the game against TTUN)

Saban on a cart eating cold pizza

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ajwellman_'s picture

This plus Tyvis Powell will be the defensive MVP in the NC game

"I don't play defense." -Bill Murray

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cinserious's picture

 (Braxton not fully recovered from surgery & Barrett gets injured in the game against TTUN)

What makes you think Brax won't fully recover from surgery? 

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Buckeye Jack's picture

1. Tenure - I see Meyer here for a minimum of 12 more years. My opinion.

2. Talent - Big-Time high school talent is usually passionate about playing for the #1 program. That's us. Our classes will go from great to ridiculous. This will continue to snowball.

3.  Player Development -  No staff develops players better than Meyer's staff.

4.  5th Grade Math - Meyer has coached 9 seasons in "Power" programs. 3 NC's. 1 NC for every 3 seasons coaching (33%)... So 4 more NC's in 12 upcoming seasons is mathematically consistant.

5.  6 more Natty's -  Add the "33% NC tendency" to the advantage of "snowballing talent", and I come up with 6 more National Championships by the 2026 season. Maybe more. Dead serious.

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cinserious's picture

@ Buckeye Jack: You make great and true points but as awesome as it would be, I don't know if Urban stays around for twelve more seasons. Then again, we know he isn't leaving OSU for any 'other' program. We know he will command (and get) top dollar right here for his services. We know he has a passion for the college game, recruiting and developing great players/leaders/ citizens, so it's not like he has one eye on an NFL career. Now that Urban has seemingly struck that balance in his life (family/job), maybe he can take it all the way to retirement. If not, you know damn well he will appoint a worthy successor. 

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

Buckeye Jack's picture

I've read from several sources that Nate will be on Meyer's staff when he graduates from college. I see Meyer staying long enough to give Nate a strong background in coaching. Of course, Nate may choose another career. But I think Nate will be learning the family business until the mid-2020's. Tight family, and a hell of an opportunity for Nate.

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CC's picture

In reality Urban could pull strings for Nate even if he wasn't the head coach.  There are many coaches around the country that "owe" Urban.  I use the term "owe" loosely.

Buckeye Jack's picture

Exactly right. But if Nate wants to learn from the master...

sivaDavis's picture

I don't think 12 seasons is out of the question. The man just turned 50 right? Saban is what, 64? I don't think there has ever been a coach that loves the collegiate game of football more than Urban. Everything about recruiting, teaching and leading young men, bonding with families of players, etc. I think he loves every bit of it and I don't see him losing that passion any time soon. Especially with his son growing up, more than likely wanting to be like his father and coach one day. I believe both of his daughters will be out of college soon. The balance he has within his family right now is perfect like you said and I don't see that changing either. I wholeheartedly believe Urban is content with staying at Ohio State until he is either fired or dies, on the field. I think he wants to go down as the best ever and have that be known for years after he is done. If he wins say 3-4 more national titles over the next "12 seasons", that'd make 6 or 7, with 4 or 5 being in the playoff era.. That'd put him past Bear Bryant and would fully cement him, in my opinion, as the greatest college coach ever... and I don't think anyone, even Saban, could come close to touching those type of stats. 

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I love it when threads like this are dug up. Love the positivity even back then.

Urban wont be here for 10 more years. As Shelley has said he just works too hard to last that long and this fall will be year No. 4 already for him. I realistically think he does this season and 6 more max for 10 seasons total. We got 10 out of Tress so I think Urban does the same and then rides off into the sunset to be a TV announcer so he can spoil grandbabies. As much as I'd love for him to be here for another decade I also want him to be healthy and happy and enjoy life. It would break my heart if what happened to him at Florida happened to him again here.

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BPOSU's picture

I thought this was the most sarcastic thread ever for about 2 minutes before I saw 2014....

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