PHONE'S RINGING -- IT'S URBAN ON THE LINE
I was told Ohio State may be close to securing the commitment of a 2013 wide receiver. Trying to get more info.
Duron Carter is available right?
Appreciate the efforts Miles.
Treadwell was rumored to be announcing at The Opening...
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
They're talking about one of the Opening guys being the WR in question. Whitfield or Samples perhaps? Or maybe Stringfellow having regrets... I love speculation. It's like Christmas
Was hoping for Foster or Quick...however, I'd be more than happy with Whitefield.
Add in Mitchell annoucning and it could be a fairly productive Opening for OSU.
Whitfield ran a 4.37 earlier on moderate turf temp, and it was laser timed, so no inflation. Crazy.
Hmmm ... Now the slow play of A.Baker is making all the more sense... Go Bucks!
Ill believe this when I see it
does his name rhyme with Fobert Roster
Its not Foster, Quick, or Gibson, I know that.
These are the kind of recruiting days that we yearn for - great, surprising news.
Is the WR at the Opening? Who else could it be? If I'm correct, Taivon Jacobs, Whitfield, Allen, Samples, and Treadwell are the only other WR offered besides Quick/Gibson/Foster. I think it's either Whitfield or Samples. I was looking at Samples twitter, and someone tweeted him saying "can't wait for your announcement man! Levonte has a top 5 with OSU in it, and he is at the opening. Jacobs and the rest don't sound like they're ready to commit. According to sources, Allen is hittin' it off with Texas.
I personally think it is Whitfield
Alex, do you think he is as good as Foster/Quick/Gibson?
On espn chat Samples listed ohio state in his top 5, then a buckeye fan rhetorically asked him "your committing to ohio state arent you?" To which he replied sarcastically "definitely....sssshhhh" fwiw
Gotta figure Whitfield committing is bad news for Shelton Gibson, aren't they that same mold?
As a receiver not sure as good but he's faster than all of them and Urban would make the most of that
I'm hoping it's Allen...but I have no idea. Whitfield looks small...fast...but small. Gibson's 6-1 (supposedly). My wish list Allen, Gibson, and Foster/Quick. But doubt that happens...
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I'm still not on board with Allen yet. I know 247 just made him a 4, but I see him as more of a track star than a football player. He's fast and all, but he's not exactly shifty, and doesn't have great size
@Buck I.8 ... I agree with you 100%, I'm not sold on Allen at all. He is this GREAT track star, but it doesn't look like his speed translates to the football field all that well. I've some of his highlights, and he wasn't really running away from people the way someone that has his type of speed should. I mean some of his track numbers are better then T.Ginn, but he isn't leaving people on the football field in his dust like Teddy G did, and on top of that he has little to no shiftiness. Although I know Whitfield is seriously fast, and it shows on film I'm not completely sold on him either. He is itty bitty, but hey so was DeAnthony Thomas coming out of high school.
Whitfield burns people though, and his cuts are deadly
In the video you posted from The Opening, they show Whitfield outrun the DB and easily make the catch. It will be interesting to see/hear if he continues to do that.
Whitfield is short though... really short... like sub 5'10" short... my ex is taller than him
Issue is that at WR, we're still lacking. Smith and Spencer have promise, but UFM hasn't been singing their praises. Thomas had a great spring, but we have to remember that he hasn't played a single snap of college ball. Plus he is not a #1 reciever type, much more adept in the slot and as a possession receiver. Epitropolous is similar as I think he'll be a solid #2 or #3 but not the deep-threat stud. I have no clue what to expect from Southward as analysis I have seen have been all over the board, though I believe he has the frame.
So that leaves UFM with the task of not only adding speed (none of the above are pure burners) but also players with the height to be that top reciever. Marshall is not a polished WR by any means. He is a FANTASTIC athelete, but he will not be able to step up right away and be THE guy as a wide-out.
Out of the options left, Allen and Gibson are the only ones that to me stands out as a possible #1 reciever. Quick and Whitfield are fast, but I'm not super impressed with Quick's routes and Whitfield is way to short to play anything but slot (imo). Foster is almost there, but I don't see him going up and snagging jump balls.
I want Allen and Foster. To me those two plus Marshall give UFM everything he really needs.
Cause I couldn't go for three
@Rampage With all due respect, I don't know what you're watching. Are you saying Gibson and Allen > Foster and Quick? Not a chance. Foster is bigger, stronger, and catches everything. There's a reason he's almost unanimously the number 1 WR on sites. Quick is more of a slot guy, but plays ridiculous competition and still burns them. Gibson doesn't exactly run complex routes in his video, so I don't know where you're getting that, and neither Allen nor Gibson are strong guys, so they're not gonna be your jump ball guys.
To take those two over Foster and Quick would be disagreeing with about every analyst out there, and logic.
You didn't read what I wrote correctly (or I misspoke). Gibson and Allen are who I think could be #1 recievers (a la Posey/Jenkins , ect). Those are receivers you put out by themselves and ALWAYS get safety help and are still expected to make big plays. That is not Quick. I like Quick, I think he could be a VERY good slot receiver, I just don't see how he and Marshall don't fill the EXACT same role. Quick doesn't have the route-running abilities to be that #1.
Foster is a enigma to me. I see all this analyst schmoozing, but I didn't see an elite reciever in his film. I saw an elite athelete with the ability to become an elite reciever. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time. Foster fits much more into a #2 receiver mold for me. Can get open in one-on-one, and will use his speed in the open field to make big plays, but I would not pick Foster to go for a jump-ball in the endzone (this is imo).
In the end I want Allen and Foster. Allen as a potential #1 and deep threat, Foster as a VERY good #2 who will cause all sorts of mismatch issues, and Marshall as a slot/utility guy who you can put anywhere on the field. To me Whitfied and Quick are just not as good as Marshall and would fill the same role.
That wasn't my point. Neither Allen nor Gibson has the size or physicality that you're talking about. Also, neither of them are terrific route runners, at least from the film standpoint.
Allen: 6'1'' 187
Foster: 6'3'' 190
Quick: 6'1'' 180
Gibson: 5'10.25" 173
Whitfield: 5'9" 165
1. You call Whitfield small, which true, but he'd be a pivot slot type guy, not a true WR. Furthermore, to say that Gibson is bigger than Whitfield would be splitting hairs, he's tiny too, which by your own logic, eliminates him from being your "number 1".
2. Allen and Quick are the same size. Here's the difference. Neither are elite route runners, but Quick plays better competition, gets better seperation, has better football speed and shiftiness than Allen does. He'll get open.
But none of there guys have that jump-ball skill you cited.
3. EXCEPT Foster. I'm not sure how you can say that about Foster's receiver abilities. Want to see an elite athlete with possibility of becoming an elite reciever? Look no further than Jalin Marshall. For that reason, sites have him rated all over the board. There's a reason Foster isn't that way. He's consistently praised, because he plays his position well. I think you're being swayed because he doesn't go to camps. But he's big, strong, he rips down balls, he makes moves in open space, and he blows by people. He's your number one, and Quick is your #2, with Marshall in the slot.
Also, to your point about safety help. Watch Alvin Bailey's tape, for example. Not too tall, but blazing fast. He's not the prototype you're citing, yet he demands a safety's presence on the backside, because he's so dangerous in his propensity to get tons of seperation and disappear.
@Buck-I.8 ... Yet again I agree w/you 100%. Foster is the best of the bunch, Quick I think has #1 WR ability as well. Marshall is just sick, and so smooth its looks like he isn't even playing that hard. I was watching his video of the 5 star rivals camp, and he was getting open so easy, he was losing every DB w/the exception of Q.Blanding. To me landing Allen was definitely be kinda of disappointing to me, he doesn't have what it takes to be a #1 WR. That is to my un-trained eye though.
It's highly unlikely that we will get Foster and Quick, so why not take Whitfield. He has a ton of potential, he's fast as hell, and I mean he did make the opening. He would fit the offense great, and I think he may not be as good as Foster/Quick, but he is surely as good as Gibson. I'd be ecstatic to get him.
Samples is announcing tonight during the opening coverage at 8 so one way or another we will be able to narrow the list.
Agreed OT1. Those small fast guys that are very shifty cause defenses fits from the spread. They can become matchup nightmares.
All this talk and no mention of Ryan Timmons, who can out run all of them, better route runner and quicker. I have seen Quick and Timmons. Timmons looks stronger and faster. Quick was on a team good enough where he received single coverage because of all of the other studs on his team. Timmons was routinely triple teamed, and he still did twice as much in yardage and TD's with nearly the same amount of touches.
If I had to pick two out of Gibson, Allen, Quick, Foster, Samples, Whitfield, Timmons and Gibson, I'd pick Foster and Timmons. But if Whitfield wants to commit, I can't see Urban turning down that kind of speed, and I'd be pretty psyched to get a playmaker of that caliber.
When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
I really like the recievers we have NOW! Brown and Thomas as well as Smith will do ALOT better this year with an offensive coordinator who know's what he's doing! The spring game showed us glimpses of that.
Wasn't Santonio Holmes like 5'11" and 170 something his first year? Ted Ginn Jr. was is also 5'11" 180 and look at how they did for their size. I knew the cheerleading coach and my daughter wanted to be a cheerleader so we got to set up a meeting with the cheerleaders and coach's over at the practice facility by St. John arena and Ginn was in there running around the track and I have NEVER in all my life seen someone who was so impressive in the way they ran. His muscles just twitched like a thoroughbreds and he ran so smooth and fast! It was just awesome watching him run.
Keep the faith, all will be good! Urban hasn't let us down yet.
yeah, at this point...i wont complain...we are getting some great ball players either way...
Foster is great, he could probably come in day one and make an impact, but that doesn't mean that there isn't another guy who doesn't have the pub of Foster, that maybe is a lower rated guy, who may come in and by the end of his Freshman year be a star. That's why I don't worry much about who is rated where right now when we are still 7 months from February. Guys are going to keep popping up as the 7 on 7's and camps keep going on along the summer. Others are going to go up the rankings as their senior seasons go on as well etc.
Do you want Foster? Absolutely, but maybe some of these other guys end up being a terrific alternative (who is more mature and not the smartass Foster is) and you end up with a great player too.
Calling it now after seeing Elliot just toss Samples his hat at the Opening, he is about to commit to Ohio State.
Edit: Oops, nevermind then.
some texas football account on twitter said he committed to OSU, as in Oklahoma State. Who knows where their info come from though, i guess.
Its already on ESPN.Com that he committed to OK Statehttp://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8138667/rashaad-samples-commits-oklahoma-state
Just like we all thought. Okie State.
Never really though we had a shot at him. Nice to be in contention though.
Really hope we land 2-3 of Foster/Quick/North/Whitfield.
Don't forget my favorite, Corn Elder.
After watching more of this guy's film, he reminds me a lot of Corey "Philly" Brown. He can play the slot or can make a play out of the backfield. The kid is a flat out PLAYMAKER and will fit Urban's offense perfectly. Would love to have him as a Buckeye.
Love Timmons's little highlight reel. I hope that we offer this kid.
To be honest... It doesn't matter to me which WR's commit. I just want to see some skill positions start pledging their commitment to OSU. We all know it takes a solid QB and skill players to run this offense. All of these recruits are going to come in and gain 20 lbs. Size isn't an issue, speed is and all of them have it. It would be nice to have some 6'2" or 6'3" receivers but it isn't all about heighth. I'm gettin tired of seeing these receivers commit somewhere else. I know the 2014 class will be UFM's first true class that he has had time to develop relationships with, but I want to see us fill these skill positions. A great set of receviers to work with Miller and eventually Barrett would be nice. The defense is stacked for the next 4 years. If we get Hand, McMillan, and Garrett in 2014 it will be nasty, but I still want to see some offensiver commits. I know Marshall is in this class, but he can't do it all.
P.S. Elliott is looking great at The Opening
Any update on this, Miles?
FWIW, Steve Andress of WDRB in Philly says that Louisville still leads for James Quick
has Quick been to OSU? I think Louisville will lead for a while, but depending on how we look on the field this fall, it could all change quickly
He was at the spring game I believe
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