Se'Von Pittman Will Transfer From Ohio State
Ohio State defensive end Se'Von Pittman wasn't present at the first spring practice today, causing some to wonder about his status. Now we have our answer: Pittman is transferring from Ohio State and has already been granted his release, per Tim May of the Dispatch.
Sources told The Dispatch it had to do with an off-the-field issue, and that Pittman was looking for a fresh start. While Pittman could not be reached for comment, sources said he was considering a transfer to Louisville if it can be worked out.
You may recall that Pittman, from Canton McKinley, was originally committed to Michigan State, but Urban Meyer was able to flip him soon after assuming the coaching duties at Ohio State. This flip led to a bit of bad blood between to two coaching staffs that still lingers to this day.
Pittman, a redshirt freshman, enrolled early last year, but suffered a knee injury and didn't see the field as a true freshman in 2012.
In other news, the Buckeyes are now at the 82 scholarship limit.
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If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
This is the same kid who we celebrated getting last year.
Have some class and wish the kid luck.
I'm a friend of thunder is it any wonder lightning strikes me
You shouldn't take little idioms so seriously.
That said, I never wished any harm on him, but I'm not gonna tiptoe around and pretend he's not just going to go take a full ride at another D1 school. Good for him if he thinks he'll fit better somewhere else, or get a chance to play, or whatever his mindset is. These things happen.
you are not funny so don't try to be, makes Ohio State fans look bad
^Overreaction much? He's got a point, all signs point to him not wanting to compete for the job. If that's true then OSU isn't for him. Best of luck to the kid either way
If he really didn't think he would ever get a chance to play, I'd imagine it wouldn't be a year after which the d-line lost ALL of its starters, and in which he has 4 years of eligibility left. "All signs point to" you questioning the kid's competitiveness without any evidence for doing so.
I don't disagree....he was behind the fold with Spence, Schutt and Diesel W getting playing time with him being injured (not to mention Miller and other D-linemen who are good enough to get playing time now like Joey Bosa). Then throw in this mysterious off the field issue and you have the recipe for not seeing the field under Urban's watch. Don't expect players with problems to be seeing the field like they did under Tress...it was an expectation that left with him. Not to mention the Matt Hayes article will solidify more of this kind of treatment for players who make mistakes. I personally was surprised Stoney and Mewhort only got what they did last year during the summer. Granted, peeing in public isn't that big of a deal...however, it made national news...therefore...it's not going to be tolerated (which I love BTW...bc it shouldn't be....no matter who you are).
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
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Buck.I.8 is hilarious, I'm not sure what you're talking about @Toilrt Paper. As many others have said, this isn't a sensitivity support group.
Couldn't disagree more. Good motor and only bad luck kept him from pushing for playing time last year. Good luck big guy.
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"A troll by any other name is still a troll".
I'm not sure it wasn't classy. It's a logical way of looking at the situation. He wasn't ever going to get meaningful minutes and is leaving (even if that isn't the excuse used from The Dispatch, I guarantee it was part of it). Not everything needs to have a really happy spin on it, as fans we obviously want him to excel, but there's a point where you don't need to sugar coat everything.
I'm also happy that we're at 82 scholarships now. Does that make me not classy? It's just a different, and not incorrect, way of looking at the situation.
And how do you know he wasnt going to get any minutes?? We can speculate on who the rotation is/was going to be but he could have been gearing up to have a break out spring practice! Wish the kid luck and keep the negative comments to yourselves geesh....
TBH, he was buried on the depth chart. It's quite a log jam. There's a difference between negative and logical, we look at all perspectives here. I wish him luck but unlike others, I'm not going to sugarcoat the situation. I don't look at things through scarlet colored glasses. If you're only looking for positivity, this isn't the site for you. Love Pittman, wish him luck, but he wasn't going anywhere here.
Im not only looking for positivity but to jump to the conclusion that he left because of playing time is rude. The article mentioned off the field issues as the reason so why cant we leave it at that??
Buried? LOL. He was a redshirt freshman last year and he was basically behind Washington at Strong Side D-End. How is that buried?
Buried would be someone like Warren Ball who is behind Hyde, Hall, Smith and Dunn.
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I hope everyone isn't assuming I think he left because of PT... that was never said.
Sad to see this. I was hoping for big things from Pittman. I really thought he along with Diesel and Spence and Schutte were going to be a nasty front four the next couple of years. I wish him well and hope the incoming guys are ready to strap it up day one.
This is the kind of reaction we should all have. Thanks for classing up the joint.
I agree. This post is what us OSU fans should say when one of our brothers decide to part ways and continue their lives/education elsewhere. Negative comments just make us appear butt hurt. I had high hopes for Se'Von, sad to see him go....
Well... this sucks. Best of luck to Se'Von where ever he ends up.
Room for a scholarship punter now.
vacuuming sucks
Actually now we are exactly at 82 with Wood giving it a shot at playing.
Oops.
vacuuming sucks
Damn.
Help is on the way.
Sucks to see. But with Jamie Wood being a senior, does that mean we're currently at 15 schollies for 2014 (w/ obvious future attrition)?
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Good Luck Se'Von. I was really pulling for this kid to make it on the field in Scarlet and Gray.
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my guess he ends up at MSU, and best of luck to him at that school.
I think Big Ten rules dictate that he loses a year of eligibility if he transfers to another Big Ten school, which might be incentive enough to transfer out of conference.
I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure you lose a year no matter where you transfer too unless there is some sort of hardship granted by the NCAA. This would likely not be one of those times. However, schools can limit the places a kid can transfer too. Teams often restrict a player from going to an in-conference team. Rumors have Pittman looking towards Louisville right now.
You only lose a year by staying in the same division. You can transfer down- say, to FCS or Div II, and play immediately.
FWIW, the specifics of transfer rules vary by conference. See this doc from the PAC 12:
http://compliance.pac-12.org/ccacaitems/surveys/ictransfers.pdf (pdf)
While it is true that a transfer to an FBS school will require him to sit for a year, the loss of eligibility is left up to the conferences. The Big East, for example, doesn't have a loss of eligibility. Similarly, some conferences allow transfers to receive athletic scholarships immediately, while others require a period of residency before aid can begin.
Excellent point- I often forget that sitting a year and losing a year of eligibility are different things entirely
If he transfers to another Big 10 school, he must sit a year AND pay his own way per Big Ten rules. See: Justin Boren
"There's a fine line between stupid, and....clever. David St. Hubbins/Nigel Tufnel
That rule has been changed since then. A student-athlete transferring from one Big Ten school to another can now be on scholarship. However, the student-athlete now loses a year of eligibility while sitting out the transfer year. This is also in contrast to Justin Boren, who started 2 years for TTUN, sat a transfer year, and then played 2 years for OSU.
Per NCAA rules, a student-athlete has 5 years (stated in the NCAA manual as 10 semesters or 15 quarters) to complete 4 seasons of competition, with rare exceptions for medical redshirts, etc. Based on current Big Ten rules, a student-athlete could hypothetically compete as a freshman for Illinois in 2012, transfer to Wisconsin, sit the 2013 season due to the transfer, and have 2014-2016 to complete 2 seasons of competition. If that same player transferred to a non-Big Ten FBS school, he would be eligible all 3 seasons from 2014-2016. The hypothetical student-athlete is immediately eligible to be on athletic scholarship at Wisconsin.
In the case of Mr. Pittman, he would suffer almost no difference between transferring to another Big Ten school and transferring to a non-Big Ten school. This is due to the fact he redshirted his true freshman season in 2012. He could transfer to Michigan State, have to sit the 2013 season (losing a season of eligibility during this transfer year) and have 3 seasons of eligibility remaining. He could also transfer to any non-Big Ten FBS school, sit the 2013 transfer year, and have 3 seasons of eligibility remaining, as 2 of his 5 seasons were used by the redshirt year in 2012 and transfer year in 2013.
As others have pointed out, you must sit out a year transferring to ANY FBS (what most people think of as Division I) school. He could play immediately if he transferred to an FCS school.
What you might be thinking of is that schools can block transfers to any schools they designate. Most schools will not let scholarship athletes transfer to a school in the same conference under any circumstance. I hate and completely disagree with allowing schools to dictate where a student athlete may transfer, but it is the rule.
the only case where a player can transfer to another FBS school and play immediately is the rule Russell Wilson used- and it isn't really a transfer. The deal is that if a player graduates as an undergrad but still has playing eligibility then they can play as a grad student. So they dont transfer, they apply to a grad school that is a different school than where they went to undergrad. Even this is restricted though- if the school where you went to undergrad offers the grad program you applied to, then you sit a year just like a transfer. That's why Wilson had to apply to a grad program that Wisconsin offered and NC State didn't.
Curious as to what the "off-field issue" May mentioned might be, such that it would portend a transfer. And moving to Louisville from Ohio State? Hmmm....
Either way, best of luck, young Mr. Pittman.
I have the same curiosity...
I remember going to school with his girlfriend was an piece of the pie in his initial recruitment. I won't speculate but hmmmm.
Best of luck big fella and happy trails.
I'm a skeptical/cynical bastard by nature, so whenever I hear "off field issues," my brain automatically files it under the same heading as when a CEO or political appointee retires/resigns for "family/personal reasons."
Hey Da'Shawn Hand, Malik McDowell, Lorenzo Carter, Lawrence Marshall: a future DE spot may have just opened for you.
(Though I do believe Hand and McDowell would play SDE and Pittman would have played WDE).
We may never know, but it doesn't seem as if the staff fought especially hard to keep him. I hope he can salvage a career; it won't be easy after a second year without game activity.
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Considering he didn't play as a freshman because of injury, I dont see why he could'nt strap up for another out-of-conference team this fall.
"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"
Transferring to any FBS school, either in or out of conference, requires sitting a year.
Best of luck to him. Don't wanna see him at another B1G school, but I hope that wherever he goes, he kills it. Dude has NFL potential for sure.
I wouldn't cheer for Michigan if they were playing the Taliban.
He did have a great build, and would have been awesome as a contributor in the D-line rotation. Good luck wherever he goes, I wouldn't be surprised if he was starting before long at a school like Louisville.
It is so easy to get really excited about every player we pull in, but unfortunately we have to remember that even on the best football team there is... it won't work out for a couple of guys. That's just probability :/
Step on up, incoming lineman!
All good.....best of luck to the young man, wherever he may land.
"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes
Even with the depth at DL it always hurts seeing such a good talent leave the program. Best of luck Pittman
These are the perils of recruiting, it is very sad though because I remember how excited I was when we got him. This is why kids sometimes want to go to lesser schools because they get a chance to play, than again it did say in the piece that it was because of a personal issue. In any case, I wish him the very best and I hope he does incredible things both on and off the field.
This stuff happens when you build depth at a position. Kids want to play. Good luck to him
It's a shame I also had high hopes on him when he committed. :( I loved the fact we were able to flip him. It was a shame he got injured last year. I think that really hurt his chances of cracking the lineup.
Best of luck to him where he ends up!
Best of luck to the kid in the future. I really wish I could have seen him play in the Scarlet and Gray.
I always root for former Buckeyes when they leave the team quietly without major incidents. I hope I get to see him play for Louisville as they blow up an SEC team in a BCS bowl.
Wish the kid well I had high hopes for him.
Ahh, man.
"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.
Bummer. I was excited to see him play.
Good luck to the kid.
Must be the number lately. Wasn't Dorian Bell #11 too?
What kind of off-the-field issue was it? Something tells me he might have been caught doing something naughty. Is there any whiff of him having done something he should not have done?
Sucks that someone with that much talent from his home state didn't work out. Hope he figures out his personal issues and ends up being a good player...
"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes
Bummer. good luck young man.
Damn, I remember UFM going on & on about this kid during the 2012 NSD presser. Too bad & kind of strange that it didn't work out. Wish we could have seen what he had. Wondering about this off field incident myself...
The world is full of kings & queens who'll blind your eyes & steal your dreams - it's heaven & hell - Ronnie James Dio.
Man, this one is confusing!? Not sure why this happened...
I wondered why he didn't get much consideration as a major contributor this year. I thought he would have been in the mix to play a lot. I wish him well.
Its good to be the king
This is why I hate getting so wrapped up in recruiting. Not everyone will pan out.
Based on no factual data, so take this for what it is. Besides UFM, the other reason he flipped his commitment is because his girlfriend was going to Ohio State. The fact that his girlfriend didn't want to go to MSU to be with him, I think maybe she was looking forward to the "freedom of college" and she wasn't as vested in the relationship as he was. So when he came to OSU he ended up getting injured and on top of that his girlfriend cozied up to an upper classman. Hey it happens to the best of us.
I wish him luck!
It seems as if some people are taking this news in a positive note (opening up spots for players being recruited, gets OSU at 82 players). It's never good news when a kid has to transfer out of the program for the school, the program, and the kid.
The program loses a year (at least) of time and effort placed on recruiting the kid to OSU in addition to developing him after he arrived. The kid is placed in a transitional period where he's neither able to fulfill his dream (playing at OSU) as well as having to start over at probably less than optimal (Big East/MAC/FBS) location. Academically, the school's academic success rate metrics take a hit on a student who entered the university and will not walk out of OSU with a degree.
Good luck to the young man. Wish it would have worked out. He'll always be a Buckeye in my eyes.
Good luck Sevon!! Was looking forward to seeing him play but as in life,things do happen,good or bad.Hope he works whatever out and becomes a productive young man!!
SCOTTC.
To defend 1.8 above...he wasn't trying to make Se'Vonn sound like he's a puss or whatever. He was just stating that there are a lot more D-linemen now and if he doesn't want the competition...then good luck to him. Chill ppl...it's not like he's saying anything negative...I've seen WAY worse. As far as him transferring....if Louisville doesn't pan out...I bet it's MSU??? Want to bet??? BTW...I wish nothing but luck to this kid...he was one of my favorites in the 2012 class besides Schutt and Spence.
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
Sucks that one bad choice can cause such a reaction. good luck to him and at least it's a position of some depth...
Is Perry DE size yet?
Too bad....
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
I kinda get the feeling we Alabama'd this kid. I hope that's not the case but that's the impression I get.
No way- not us, definitely not to a local product.
Probably just the logjam in front of him here coupled with an opportunity somewhere else (Louisville).
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It sounds like there were some issues.. Here is the article from Canton Repository (Pittman starred at Canton McKinley). http://www.cantonrep.com/sports/x898143215/Former-McKinley-defensive-end-Se-Von-Pittman-released-from-Ohio-State
To me the statement wondering if Ohio State "Alabama'd" Pittman is way worse than the first comment about "can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" which really isn't that bad a thing to say (perhaps insensitive, but this isn't a sensitivity support group, is it?) I guess I can understand how this situation could be construed as an episode of "What Would Nick Saban Do".
However, when you take a deep dive into all the articles, books, interviews, and other media since Meyer has been at OSU, and I have, you come to the conclusion that he really does care about his players as people first and athletes second - pretty damn close to how Woody was.
I cannot believe that the coaching staff would give up on him or push him out the door just because he had an injury and did not get playing time because of it like his peers, or because they needed to make room for scholly's. That shit is not in Meyer's DNA.
Thought the same thing....totally agree with you. Absolutely loved the last part to btw;-)
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
If I remember correctly, one the reasons why we all felt that he would flip to the Buckeyes was that his girlfriend was going to tOSU. Maybe the reason for leaving is more "affairs of the heart", than the" affairs of fighting for playing time".
The logjam:
Not to mention Bosa/Hill coming in. I think he saw the writing on the wall.
Logjam....or LOADED;-)
"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987
It's a good problem to have!
As much as it pains me to say it, I have to agree. I think the same could be said for Kenny Hayes.
"Here officer, hold my beer while I find my license."
"The few, the proud, the Ohio State Buckeyes." Not everyone is going to be able to make "the grade" in Urbans program. You not only have to be an elite athlete, but a strong student with great character. Average won't make the cut. I hope Pittman finds success and I really hate to see him leave. I believe he's a player and it's unfortunate that his decision is to go, instead of making it work in Columbus.
An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches
Joey Bosa already causing fear in players I see. Never really saw the hype in Pittmans film to be honest. Wish him luck in wherever he ends up.
Run_Fido's favorite word is strawman.
Did not expect this.
Very unexpected, but i wish this young man well in his future endeavors. None of us know what really goes on in these situations and we have to remember that these are 18-21 year old men who are experiencing this first major change(s) in their lives. Hopefully Pittman will find a new home and I am confident that he will do just fine on the football field, regardless where he goes.
Once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye!
Good luck to him.
Don't give up... Don't ever give up.
URBZRENEWAL,Hey my friend the one you forgot.....Billy Price WILL BE a player at tOSU.....And Def at that....
^ Most likely will we end up an O-lineman.
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