Looking For the Lost 2010s

By Joe Beale on January 15, 2014 at 1:30p
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I thought we would see a lot more of this from T.Y. Williams.

The 2010 Ohio State football recruiting class featured some of the most important cogs in the machine that rolled over 24 consecutive opponents over a two-year span before finally crashing against Michigan State and Clemson.

1,000-yard rusher Carlos Hyde, offensive lineman Andrew Norwell, cornerback Bradley Roby, receiver Corey "Philly" Brown, safety Christian Bryant, kicker Drew Basil, massive defensive tackle Johnathon Hankins, reserve lineman Darryl Baldwin, special teams standout J.T. Moore, and reserve running back Rod Smith were all part of the class.

Ten players from that team stayed at least three years and made some contribution to all of the victories. One of them is already in the NFL – several more might be there next season and three of them are still around and might be even more valuable in 2014. But those 10 out of the 19 players in that recruiting class were the only ones who actually stayed three years with the program. The others all either transferred, were kicked off the team, or had their careers ended by injury.

In terms of futility for a recruiting class, the 2003 class is probably the standard in the modern era, with only five of 14 recruits making any kind of impact. The 2010 class is not quite at that level, but it does kind of make you wonder why it is that almost half of the class ended up having a marginal impact or no impact at all on the program. Let's take a look at the "lost" members of the class and find out what happened to them.

david durham

Durham was listed at defensive end when he arrived but was a bit small for the position at 228 pounds. When he arrived, he was moved to fullback and seemed to excel at the position in practice. He was redshirted his first year, and then came the awful 2011 season. When Urban Meyer was hired, Durham saw that there would not be many opportunities at fullback in the new offensive scheme and in January of 2012 announced his intention to transfer.

He ended up at Pitt, attracted by the Wisconsin-style offense that head coach Paul Chryst prefers. However, he is now listed as a defensive lineman and is up to 255 pounds. It doesn't look like he's gotten much playing time but there is still a chance he could have an impact there.

Taylor graham

The son of former Ohio State quarterback Kent Graham was a pocket passer, and thus was another player who thought that Meyer's preferred offensive scheme would not be a good fit for him. Graham transferred to Hawaii and was named their starting quarterback prior to the 2013 season. He was expected to excel in the pro-style offense of coach Norm Chow. Despite leaving, he says he still gets up early on game days to watch Ohio State.

Graham struggled to start the season, completing less than 50% of his passes in losses to USC and Oregon State. He was playing pretty well in the third game against Nevada before he left with a shoulder injury. When he was finally cleared to play, he had lost his starting job to former starter Sean Schroeder. Hawaii finished 1-11 on the season and Chow is now under fire, although it looks like he may survive for one more season.

adam griffin

No need for a "where is he now" section on Adam Griffin because he is still at Ohio State; he just isn't playing football anymore. A fourth-year junior who played in all 12 games in 2012 on special teams, Griffin had earned the 2013 "Iron Buckeye" award for his toughness and determination during the winter. However, after shoulder surgery in August it was determined that he could no longer play football. Whatever he ends up doing, I am sure the son of Archie Griffin will succeed. It kind of runs in the family.

chad hagan

Hagan was a linebacker prospect from Pennsylvania who was apparently converted to defensive back after his redshirt season in 2010. There isn't much information about Hagan that I can find, other than that he left the team for some kind of medical issue. As far as I know, he hasn't turned up anywhere else. If you know anything about where he is, let me know.

James louis

Louis was a highly-regarded receiver out of Delray Beach, Fla. but he never lived up to the hype at Ohio State. In fact, he seemed more interested in his Twitter feed than his game. Louis transferred to Florida International prior to the 2012 season, and so I would have expected him to play in 2013. However, I cannot find any stats for him, and I'm not sure if he is still on the team. I can't even find his old twitter account. MIA, it appears.

The cold of the midwest apparently didn't suit him. He's warmer now.Taylor Graham started three games for Hawaii this season.

SCott mcvey

McVey was a linebacker from Cleveland who redshirted his first year in 2010. He had suffered a shoulder injury his senior season at St. Ignatius high school and re-injured it prior to camp. The same thing happened in 2011 and McVey had surgery for the third time. After the season, he applied for medical hardship and gave up football.

verlon reed

The Columbus Marion-Franklin quarterback became a receiver at Ohio State. After a redshirt in 2010, he emerged as a starter in 2011 and had his best game in a loss to Michigan State with four catches for 43 yards. Unfortunately he also tore his ACL in that game and was out for the season. He went through fall camp in 2012 and actually caught a pass in the opener against Miami, but he was passed by others on the depth chart and never played again.

In December, he left Ohio State to go play football at Findlay, a division II school. He is back at quarterback, battling former Eastern Michigan quarterback Devontae Payne for the starting job. We wish him well.

jamel turner

Turner's story has already been chronicled in detail here so I won't go over it again. Turner played in six games for Akron in 2013, registering 17 total tackles and one fumble recovery. We wish him nothing but success as he moves forward.

t.y. williams

Williams was a receiver out of Cleveland who was expected to be a red zone terror at Ohio State due to his elite size and good hands. Unfortunately, the latter part of that equation never emerged and Williams ultimately could not adjust to the ways of one Urban F. Meyer. After some unspecified violations of team rules, Williams was dismissed from the team.

There was some talk of him transferring to Ohio Dominican, but he doesn't show up on the current roster and so I cannot confirm that he is there. Wherever he is, I hope he gets things straightened out, both on the field and off.

 

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osu07asu10's picture

That is what you call attrition right there.  Hope all those buckeyes are doing well!

"They don't know what they don't know." - Coach Mick

Earle's picture

Just goes to show you that recruiting is far from an exact science.

Italics are for emphasis.

niblick's picture

we need to have one of these threads every year and permanently pin it in the recruiting forums for everyone that goes batshit crazy each year with threads like "Look at our last 2 classes, WE'RE LOADED" or "look at all the weapons we have on offense with these last 2 classes!, we're gonna score 100 points a game!!" or "look at he db's and lb's we've brought in, our defensive problems ARE OEVR! the silver bullets are back baby!" etc etc.

Buckeye1004's picture

So you're against optimism and enthusiasm for your team? I'd like to see what the stats are over time.  10 out of 19 might be a pretty good number considering we're talking about 18-22 year old kids.  Maybe it should be posted in the threads "We got out recruited", "Our class should be better", "Did you see who we didn't get", "The (fill in team/conference) are going to kill us with the class they have".
Just sayin, "Don't drag me down!"

niblick's picture

Theres a huge difference between having optimism and enthusiasm for our team, and some of the delusion that goes on in some of these threads each year at the end of recruiting season, and if you don't get that, you're probably one of the people making those threads.

Buckeye1004's picture

Alright, I'll give you that.  There are some delusional individuals out there. 

cdub4's picture

There is also a middle ground, guarded optimism if you will. You can be excited with the commitments and still realize there will be attrition, injury, busts etc. Most people realize recruiting rankings do not guarantee anything.

Homey1970's picture

I just can't wait to see the Bucks use that diamond formation they were using in spring practice. That will be unstoppable! 

+1 HS
gumtape's picture

I hear that we will be throwing to the tight ends more since they can cause matchup problems with undersized safeties.

just another psycho, irrational, delusional Ohio St fan

Buckeye1004's picture

I'd be curious to see the stats for multiple years.  Maybe broken down by conference, team or even specific recruiter? The good, the bad, the ugly of recruiting.  It would be quite interesting to see what the breakdown would be.  % of Stars, % of Busts.
If anyone has any insight as to where that information might be found, it would be appreciated.

UrbanAssaultVehicle's picture

Great to hear stories like Turner.  Kid really sounds like he turned it around after quite the wild ride.  Hope he and all of the guys on this list kill it wherever they end up.

UFest57's picture

I'd like to have recruiting *'s and position rank included in this. It would only add to the quality and give perspective.
 
All in all, GREAT READ!

d5k's picture

And this is why we have been so thin at linebacker the last 2 years.

Joe Beale's picture

For more on this topic, Vico will have a story tomorrow on the 2009 class. Stay tuned.

NYBUCKEYE's picture

Heres a question what ever happend to Devoe Torrence

Joe Beale's picture

He got into some trouble off the field and OSU rescinded his offer. He then signed with Akron and played there for two seasons. In 2010 Akron announced that he was leaving the program and I lost track of him after that.

jamesrbrown322's picture

Sad story of someone who could have worked his way out, and had a golden opportunity, only to become another statistic. I always hate seeing things like this happen to young men and women, and hope others feel the same way.
 

"I can accept failure, but I cannot accept not trying." - W.W. Hayes

ISURVIVEDCOOPER's picture

I believe this is what Urban refers to so frequently about increasing the percentage of kids that come into these programs and just disappear for various reasons.  He's always been very vocal about his expectation on the coaches to raise the percentage of success (I think it was like 50% drop-out or disappear), and to develop these kids as more than football players.  Aside from Cooper, I think we can say that UFM, Tress, and Earle carried on this legacy from Woody.

"I don't apologize for anything.  When I make a mistake, I take the blame and go on from there." - Woody Hayes

Jdadams01's picture

I could be remembering it wrong, but didn't Hagan have a heart condition?

CptBuckeye24's picture

That sounds very familiar and remember something along those lines

Joe Beale's picture

Yes, and they knew about it before he came to Ohio State. Got this from a helpful person on Twitter.
http://triblive.com/mobile/1223309-81/hagan-heart-canon-montecalvo-mcmil...

cdub4's picture

This class and the 2009 class are a big part of the reason OSU has lacked depth the last few years.

Joe Beale's picture

Tune in tomorrow at 11:30 and Vico will tell you all about the 2009 class.

niblick's picture

thats gonna be a painful one to read.
"remember when you got that awesome job and the big promotion, and 2 weeks later you found your girlfriend blowing your new boss, and someone stole your car that weekend, and you had to ride the bus and your house got robbed that very next week? you remember that?"
that's gonna be the recap of a lot of the 09 class lol
Jamaal Berry, Duron Carter, James Jackson, Dorian Bell, Jordan Whiting c'mon down!  You're the next contestants on WTF were you thinking?!?!
 
Melvin Fellows gets a pass due to injury

RunningFree's picture

Reed had a respectable 2013 season for Findlay.  From their website:
                                
67.4%
1791 yds
162.8 y/g
9.4 y/a
11 TD
7 INT
Also rushed for an additional 389 yds and 2 TD for a 5.8 avg.
Those numbers are also based off of 7 starts. I'm not too in tune with Findlay football, but I'd guess he'll be their full-time starter next year.  Good to see a former Buckeye having success!

tosubuckeye's picture

Stats for qb Verlon Reed, Findlay University. 8-3 record; 1791 passing yds (67.4%), 11 td's 7 int; 389 net rushing yds, 2 td's, long of 79 yds.  Gm avg 198.2 yds.  Not too shabby.

tosubuckeye
 

ibuck's picture

With this kind of attrition rates, being able to oversign like the SEC would make a huge difference.

Our honor defend, we will fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

Crumb's picture

I really liked Verlon Reed, I had high hopes for him in the start of 2011, wish it could've worked out for him at Ohio State, he's a great athlete. Glad he did well at Findlay last season, if he has another season left I hope he does even better then. Once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

northwoods buckeye's picture

From a numbers perspective, having half of a class pan out is about what you need... you bring in ~22 players a year, which means you can have a starting lineup of juniors and seniors on both sides of the ball with mostly underclassmen in reserve and a few starters. Where it become a problem is when successive classes at a given position flame out (hello LBs) and the team ends up lacking depth/talent at those positions. 
 

Conan! What is best in life?

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Barnsey69's picture

Verlon is the man...City League!!

Thank the Maker that I was born in Ohio, cradle of coaches, US Presidents, confederate-stomping Generals, and home of The Ohio State University Football Buckeyes!

JakeBuckeye's picture

In fact, he seemed more interested in his Twitter feed than his game.

Do not hate on Keyboard James!

Joe Beale's picture

You cannot call him that anymore since his Twitter account no longer exists. ;)

BoFuquel's picture

Only slightly worse than average, I think the average of washouts is 40%. No big deal. GO BUCKS!

I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

Toilrt Paper's picture

NO coach has ever recruited perfectly. If so, every year there would be nothing but 22 Senior starters. With the exception of the once in a decade recruit or 3 years and off to the NFL.

Joebobb's picture

For anyone who knows about the scholarship process, I was always curious about this question.
Take Adam Griffin. Since his father is a university employee he can go to school tuition free. If he plays football does he take up a scholarship or would he be considered a walk on and save a scholarship for another player? I have always been curious about this because you often see the coaches son on the team (i.e. Cody Hawkins amongst others). Just wondering if this actually costs a scholarship or this player is able to walk on since their tuition is covered anyway?