New Year, Big Problems for Ohio State

By Kyle Rowland on January 1, 2014 at 4:38p
Bradley Roby and Noah Spence will both be out for the Orange Bowl

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – When it rains it pours. For Ohio State, that’s a literal statement.

On Wednesday morning — the first day of 2014 — the Buckeyes learned they’d be without defensive end Noah Spence for the Orange Bowl and the first two regular-season games of the 2014 season. Later in the afternoon, the final 20 minutes of practice took place in a torrential downpour, causing streets in Davie, Fla., where Ohio State’s practicing at Nova Southeastern University, to flood.

Prodded to speak about Spence’s situation, head coach Urban Meyer quickly became annoyed with the persistent questions.

“We’re going to move on. Any other questions you guy got?” an annoyed Meyer said.

He said he’s disappointed in Spence, but added that Spence is a good kid and he still loves him. Ohio State planned on having Spence in South Florida until it lost an appeal to the Big Ten, according to Meyer.

Now, it could also be without cornerback Bradley Roby. Meyer said all indications are the junior won’t play in his final game as a Buckeye. Linebacker Curtis Grant will be good to go. 

Roby's NFL intentions have never been hidden from view. But that isn't the case with Braxton Miller, who revealed he'll announce his decision about a week after the Orange Bowl.

Scouts have been low on the signal-caller after a poor stretch in November and December.


  • Jeff Heuerman is the latest flu victim. He didn't practice today, though Meyer is confident he will be OK Friday.
  • The flu was a horrible experience, according to Miller. But he added it didn’t hamper his skimboarding skills.
  • On Spence’s absence, Miller said everyone has to be ready to step up. He noted that Jamal Marcus and Steve Miller are also on scholarship. Meyer said the duo has performed well in practice all week.
  • Former Buckeye Cris Carter said Meyer has OSU in great shape. Carter been a fixture at the Buckeyes’ practices in Columbus and Miami. He coaches at St. Thomas Aquinas, which produced Joey Bosa. Carter said Bosa’s brother, Nick, might be even better than Joey. “He’s a good freaking football player.”
  • “I learned to play football by being a Buckeye. That’s where it started for me.” – Carter
  • Carter laughed when asked about the OSU-Aquinas connection. “It’s a coincidence,” he said with a wry smile.


Knarcisi's picture

Just win the damn game and this week will end and the year will start just fine. 

Northbrook's picture

Orange Bowl victory is the cure.
Edit: KNARCISI, we're on the same page.

wyatt's picture

Any information on why Roby won't play?

gwalther's picture

He doesn't want to hurt his draft stock.

Class of 2008

d5k's picture

Can we please stop with this?  Comments and forums are jumping the shark with throwing our players under the bus and the let's leave the B1G posts.

buckeyepastor's picture

That's fair.   So, should we wait until about 60 hours from now when Roby is no longer a part of the team and then consider whether he could have played but elected not to out of consideration for his career?  
I don't mean to be overly harsh about it.   I don't blame anybody wanting to be in a better place for the draft.   When I was at OSU, I felt like Galloway in his final season really went out of his way to avoid contact in preparation for the NFL, but he still was a great player and competitor (and got his degree).   But it's understandable for people to have questions about Roby.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

Nick's picture

Roby is a competitor and thinks he is the best. IF he is physically able to play without being a liability I think he will. No point in speculation and also I believe it is the job of the school and coaches to protect the players well being (which helps draft stock) and wouldn't want them to force an injured player to play when its not best for them.

D-Day0043's picture

The B1G is 1-4 so far. If you want to add next years members Rutgers and Maryland, the B1G is 1-6. Sparty doesn't look real good, so there is a good possibility by the end of the day the B1G will be 1-7. That is a freaking embarrassment. Ohio State is the brand of the B1G. As long as this conference is crap, no one will respect us.

skid21's picture

I refuse to take responsibility for the horrible additions of Maryland and Rutgers until we have to. Why would you? That is just stupid.

D-Day0043's picture

Like it or not, those two shit teams are going to be embarrassing our conference next year.

gwalther's picture

I just made a statement about why I think he isn't playing. Doing that isn't "throwing him under the bus." People will have to make their own evaluation about why Roby isn't playing, and decide how they feel about him based on that. At the end of the day, he needs to do what he feels is best for his future. 

Class of 2008

DefendYoungstown's picture

I say "sack up" and play for the team/university that has supported (room, board, education) your ass since you've been there, if you're not playing why even make the trip...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

D-Day0043's picture

Who is going to turn down a free trip to Miami this time of year? Lol! ;-)

DefendYoungstown's picture

D-Day --- True, UFM should have pulled Roby aside and said, Bradley, I need to know were you are, if we were playing today could you play? If yes, pack your bags, if not you should just declare for the NFL right now as you won be making the trip with your "brothers". I think you will do great things in the league. Best of luck to you son...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

D-Day0043's picture

Yep. If you can't strap it up and give it a go for your team you are able, then you don't don't deserve the reward of being there.

d5k's picture

Or maybe just maybe he is trying like crazy to play but he is too injured?  Did you guys give John Simon crap for missing the Michigan game last year?  

DefendYoungstown's picture

John Simon played like a boss all season, he was injured the majority of the season. Roby was good last year, everybody thought he would be a superstar this season. IMO Roby played for himself this season and not for the good of the team. Just my opinion though, I know what I saw.

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

D-Day0043's picture

No because Simon had a history of playing through numerous injuries, and he was a known badass. Meyer said Simon was tough. Meyer said Roby had buyers remorse and he wasn't all in. Ever hear Meyer talk about Roby like he talked about Simon? No...

llong83's picture

Same thing she said!!!

Buckeyes...or Nothing

ChazBuckeye's picture

Why is everyone flaming this's not unheard of for players to take it easy or not even play in bowl games due to the NFL draft.  I'm not incline to say it's off base, that's for sure. 

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

Coop15's picture

Most likely because of the knee injury.

"People don't realize how often you have to come in second in order to finish first."

-Jack Nicklaus

teddyballgame's picture

He's injured.  Everyone's got something bothering them at this point in the season though.
Let's be real though, he was widely considered a top 20 draft pick during preseason.  Before we even played our first game he was having regret for his decision to return.  Then the season began and he struggled...his draft stock slipped.  He lost over a million dollars.  Think about that.
He's sitting this game out because he's scared.  He simply doesn't like the potential risk/reward that comes with going up against the likes of Clemson's receivers.  He's not going to risk getting exposed and losing even more money and slipping down the draft board more.

OSU1995's picture

Is he injured or is he hurt? I will give him the benefit of the doubt, because he has given a lot to the University. But this is a big F'in game for the school. 

“You have to make decisions, ... I've never pretended that every decision I've made was right. And I've been reminded of that.” 
     - James Patrick Tressel

D-Day0043's picture

Yep, he's packed it in. He got back on the field against Sparty in the same game he injured himself. I'm sure they could give him something for the pain so he can get on the field. He's had a few weeks to heal up. Now that we are not playing for a championship, I find it suspect that he is too injured to play. 

Oakland Buckeye's picture

That may be the "trolliest" thing I have heard about one of our beloved buckeyes. If he could go - Urbz would have him in the lineup no questions asked. the time it takes to heal from a bone bruise is typically 6 weeks to 6 months depending upon the severity. Check yourself Teddy. You too Pastor!

D-Day0043's picture

If he was hurt so bad then why was he able to come back and finish the B1G championship game? After a few weeks of rest and getting treatment everyday he is now too injured to play?
It all just happens to coincide with playing against the best receiver he'll face all year after struggling mightily against mediocre competition, the fact that Urban Meyer said he had "buyers remorse" coming back, and that we are not playing for a national championship. 
Hmmm.... I have no idea why anyone would come to such a conclusion.

luckynutz's picture

Its called heart my friend. That was the biggest game of his career, with a B1G title and national championship shot on the line. He had to watch helplessly as MSU proceeded to march down the field after he went down. Being in the moment, and have the blood pumping probably helped him be able to return to the field. And he wasn't about to let his team down in a big spot. After the game, once it had time to stiffen uo it probably became extremely sore and shown to be more significant an injury than previiusly thought. Look at garnder from TSUN...he played a whole half of football on a broken foot. Then sat out the bowl game. Dont think TSUN fans are ckaiming he was scared or more worried about his future than the team. So why are people questioning roby? Sure, he had a down year by his own account and that of the coaches. No reason to trash the kid...he's been rehabbing and trying to get himself in shape to play. Fact of the matter is we don't know how serious the injury is, how much pain he's in or how much it hampers his ability to play at a high level. He isn't pulling a clowney here...waiing til game day to decide to hold himself out for fear of further injury. Hes trying to do everything he can to be able to play. But end of ths day it comes down to a decision between him, the coaches and the medical staff. No sense putting him out there if he can't be effective.

D-Day0043's picture

He's got a bone bruise, not a fracture. They can numb him up so he can play. I caught an entire season of baseball with my heal bone chipped off and I had to be carried off the field every game. I did it without any pain medicine. I did it because there was no way in hell I was going to miss a second of a game if I could get out there. The adrenalin kicked in when I was out there so I didn't feel a thing, but after the game I couldn't walk. I wasn't under scholarship. I did it for the love of the game and because there was no way I was going to let down my teammates. It was the best season I ever had too.

cplunk's picture

A knee is a very different thing from an ankle. I played a whole season of soccer on an ankle with a torn ligament and a bone bruise. Hurt like hell but I did it.
Then I suffered a bone bruise in my knee. Done. Flat out done. Adrenaline will not overcome that. I can see him playing some games and then not being able to go in others too- I did the same thing. I'd get just enough rest to feel better about it then push too hard and be out. 
I've had several fractures and several torn ligaments, and I'm telling you NOTHING hurt like a bone bruise in my knee.

Oakland Buckeye's picture

Totally agree Nutz & Cplunk - you guys have clearly seen the field in your lives. I just don't understand the "fans" who get on here & speak disrespectfully towards young men they know nothing about personally.
You dont "numb up" a bone bruise.

D-Day0043's picture

Really? They can't "numb up" a bone bruise? Then how are surgeries done while people are awake, and how are teeth pulled? They can numb the area and give him some pain medication.

cinserious's picture

A few weeks ago I tried riding a motorcycle for the first time and wiped out. A 400 lb Suzuki Katana landed on my right knee. When I stood up and hobbled away, I could tell it was fucked up and hurt but my adrenaline was so high, I could barely feel it. The next day I was in severe pain from (what I determined was a deep bone bruise). I walked with a painful limp for weeks but it has gotten much better with time (although still present). Throughout this whole ordeal, I have always been thankful I didn't suffer any ligament damage.

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

fanfarris's picture

"carried off the field every game".D. I believe you .There once was a three legged race Horse who was a chestnut bay horse and was going in the 5th race at some derby. his Odds were one million to one.I bet on him cause of his name,Superman, and by Golly he won the race.And like you he was carried off the Track ,winking at me,as i was the only me cheering.Plz lets just keep our stories secret,cause no one will believe us.BTW,you didn't specify as to why you were carreid off the field !!Is it cause you were DRUNK or what??


D-Day0043's picture

I believe I did specify. My heal bone was chipped off. Also I don't drink or use drugs, so I definitely wasn't drunk. 
I used to play football, baseball, and skateboard. Over the years, between those sports, (skateboarding really kicked my ass, which accounted for 95% of my injuries) I had several high ankle sprains, slipped disks in my back, broken toes, ankle, foot, wrist, shoulder, arm, collarbone, fingers, concussions, busted ear drum, bone bruises, and ligaments torn in my elbow. I had had enough so I quit. Years later my knees are shot.
My point being, I did not have professional treatment when my foot was broken and I played. I was helped off the field after every game that season, and many times carried to my car. If you don't believe that, then oh well... I won't be losing any sleep over what you think. 
Roby has had rest and treatment every day. If he wanted it bad enough, I'm sure he could suite up for one game. He has the whole offseason to rehab.

DefendYoungstown's picture

@teddy, I agree, he would be EXPOSED once again.  I don't recall a Buckeye ever packing it in at the end of season like this guy.

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

skid21's picture

He simply doesn't like the potential risk/reward that comes with going up against the likes of Clemson's receivers.  He's not going to risk getting exposed and losing even more money and slipping down the draft board more.

So are you saying he is a pussy player who is afraid of the competition?

D-Day0043's picture

Lol! I love your directness! 

DefendYoungstown's picture

I don't like speaking for others, but I am pretty sure that is what he was saying.  Not sure he's afraid of the competition but he knows he can't cover B1G receivers so he probably knows he would get smoked by the Southern speed from the ACC.
It's time for a New Year's Revolution...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

d5k's picture

Or he is injured.

teddyballgame's picture

I simply think this is a business decision for him.
If there was no such thing as the NFL then I think he'd probably be playing.  I believe he's afraid of losing even MORE money.  I don't know if I can really blame him, but it sucks either way.

Oakland Buckeye's picture

Skid you should run for public office!

buckibri's picture

Yea, he hurt his knee in the B1G game in Indy. remember after the tipped ball late in the 3rd quarter he was out for a few series.

Bloombergl's picture

Run clock and keep the O on the field all day.  Or just try to score 70.

GoBucks10's picture

With these big losses on defense, I'm with BLOOMBERGL...keep the offense on the field and burn as much clock as possible.  Roll Damn Hyde.

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

Olemissbuckeye's picture

Spence and Roby out?


DefendYoungstown's picture

I'll get killed for saying this but it will be a relief once Roby is gone. Tired of the prima donnas drama. There is no "i" in team... 

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

cajunbuckeye's picture

There is an "I" in team if your Spanish. Just saying.

An angry fan...rooting for an angry team...led by angry coaches

DefendYoungstown's picture


What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

Urban Ohio's picture

There is a Y in Roby

Newcomerstown Trojans between Woody and Beaver.

unknownmusketeer's picture

No hay "yo" en "equipo" tampoco.

bucknut3011's picture

I haven't gotten the 'prima donna' vibe from Roby (at least no stronger than any other highly talented athlete).  However, I do feel Roby goes out to put on a 'show' and tries to create highlight moments.  His tackling (and really the rest of the secondary) is completely atrocious.  He launches his body in the effort to make a dramatic hit -- if it doesn't knock the ball carrier down, there's guaranteed more yardage gained.  I won't touch on the pass coverage issues, which started with Wicsonsin (Abrederis).  I've told my junior high son (plays CB) to not watch him because his fundamentals are not model.  I think it is time for him to go because the bad habits need to be broken and this silver bullet defense needs to return to form.
Just sharing observations.

SOF_Buckeye's picture

There is no 'u' either...

"The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender." Woody Hayes

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

but there is an "me" in team.  Especially if you look in the mirror.

Hovenaut's picture

When life hands you lemons.....

.....kick some ass in the Orange Bowl.

Not knocking the guys that are down and/or out, but next man up.

"Success - it's what you do with what you got" - Woody Hayes

Mr Soul's picture

if life hands you melons, you might be dyslexic.

Keep the change, ya filthy animal!

southernstatesbuckeye's picture

Yeah, I know a couple of melons I'd like to get my hands on.

Remy's picture

if life hands you melons, you might be dyslexic.

Or very lucky...

"I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're goin', and hook up with them later." ~ Mitch Hedberg

southbay's picture

As for the rain, it is what it is.  It could rain during the game, anyway.  Maybe would be an advantage for tOSU?

buckeyepastor's picture

Praying for rain to slow down Clemson.  Lots of it.  
Glad to hear Braxton's working on his surfing skills, and I know this is a gift and a reward for them, being down there and all.   But with all the bad news stacking up for us, the image of Miller out having fun in the surf is not what I want.   Not that the guys putting in 16 hour days down there is useful at all, but I hope they are taking this game very seriously.    I want to see a look on the face of Miller pre-game like I've never seen before.  I want to see on these guys' faces the sort of look that the 2002 team had walking into the game with Miami.   That was how they dealt with adversity.  I hope this squad does likewise.  
Sorry for the negativity, but I'm still not sold on the talk that the team "really wants this win."  I still get the sense that they're basking in the glow of 24-1 over two seasons.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

DefendYoungstown's picture

Maybe we should be praying for snow...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

D-Day0043's picture

Herman better be real damn careful calling this game. We can't afford any ignorant play calling at inopportune times.
Fickell is going to have to double team Watkins all day and take him away. They are going to have to make the other receivers beat them.

seafus26's picture

Hit Watkins on every play. I don't care uninvolved or away from a play he may be. Hit him and then hit him some more

Go Bucks and michigan STILL SUCKS!

buckguyfan1's picture

We are going to win.

BUCKSOMIES's picture

We need to feed the beast that is Hyde. 

MilitaryBuckeye's picture

One thing's for sure... This is the first real adversity this team has faced under Urban Meyer. The team is either going to come together, backs to the wall, and fight back hard... Or they're going to fall apart. 
I, for one, am excited to see how it plays out... My money is on Urban, the Master motivator, having an angry team hungry for the "W".

buckeyepastor's picture

Thanks.  Your perspective has me feeling better about the game. 

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

BuckeyeStrong1993's picture

This is a must win for the buckeyes.


Crumb's picture

Dang, this sucks, but a winning eases almost all pains.

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

Blackbeards Delight's picture

Does that include bone bruises?

Crunchy Peanut Butter Bitches.

- Me


BamaBuckeye144's picture

We should win with ease. Lol. Every time things go great for us - all players healthy, no problems, we don't play so well in the bowl game. I like our chances here. :)


DefendYoungstown's picture

@bama, are you referring to Bama or tOSU?

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

So now the Buckeyes have one player who's hurt and may walk away from his team [sit out] so he doesn't hurt his draft stock? If that's the truth, Meyer ought to put Roby back on a plane and send him home right now. He's not a Buckeye in my mind. And Miller ought to concentrate on playing his ass off on Friday night instead of worrying about his draft stock. If he's so damn worried about what round he would get picked, then I'd put him on a plane with Roby. Play Kenny at QB. He has 10 times the heart that Miller and Roby have.
From reading all of the story, I'll put out my pick: Clemson 49, OSU 24. I'm sure Boyd, Watkins and Company have a lot more heart and guts than what the Buckeyes are showing me right now. Hope I'm wrong on my pick, but I don't have a good feeling about this team for reasons stated above.

Crimson's picture

And since this is how you cheer on your team, you aren't a real buckeye either!
See what I did there?

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

A Buckeye fan longer than you have been, I'm sure. Just being realistic, not a cheerleader.
BTW, I have a daughter who works at the Wexner Medical Center and another one who has a degree from TOSU. I bleed Scarlet and Gray, like you do.

Crimson's picture

I don't think you understand.  You're questioning whether Roby is a Buckeye, because he has an injury and might not be able to play.  I'm questioning, facetiously, you being a Buckeye, because you're jumping on the "Roby is quitter" bandwagon.  It's the same faulty logic for both arguments, so you should leave town, as you aren't a Buckeye.

Deadly Nuts's picture

So the real Buckeye's are us laying our fat asses on the couch watching the game? You sound like a clown making all these assumptions that Miller and Roby have no heart.

Fuck m*ch*gan! That is all.

toledobuckeyefanjim's picture

RE: Roby not playing because of a bad knee...I bring you, and I hate to do this, Devin Gardner playing on his bad foot and nearly beating the Buckeyes with it. That kid, even if he is a Wolver-weenie, has more guts and heart than Roby. Now I feel sick just thinking I typed those sentences.

DefendYoungstown's picture

Don't feel sick, sometimes the truth hurts...

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

BROSEPH's picture

Don't knock someone over an injury and question their toughness.  

buckeyepastor's picture

If Roby is ok to play and play well and doesn't, I'm really disappointed in that.  But if Roby is hurting enough that he's going to be a step behind all night long in coverage, then I don't want him out on the field, either. 

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

Knarcisi's picture

Injury could be different, and very different for a QB and a CB. Much more demanding and unpredictable in the movement for a CB. 

CALPOPPY's picture

Ummmmm...I thought that Gardner missed the UM bowl game.
So Gardner hurts himself, continue to play in that game, and then misses the next game so he has heart. Roby gets hurt in a game, comes back and plays, and may sit out the bowl (next) game but he has no heart?
Toledo Jim, your logic has me confused.

I'm a hurtin' buckaroo.

SHAKENBAKE68's picture

Roby may well be hurt. I think a lot of this critizism and doubt comes from him admitting he was not giving 100% earlier in the season and saying he would do better.  I say next man up and let's stand behind him, whoever that man is!

There is no such thing as "friendly fire"..

Knarcisi's picture

It's Armani Reeves. For once I can't say next man up. 

Crimson's picture

Next, next man up!

Knarcisi's picture

 Cam Burrows. And I don't want to hear that one is a boundary corner and one is another. Doesn't matter. Burrows needs to be on the field. 

Crimson's picture

Both statements are true.

73buckeye's picture

Roby must really be hurt. If he's not, I can't believe he really thinks sitting out this game is going to do anything to help his draft status. If he doesn't think he's good enough to go head to head with Sammy Watkins, what the hell is he going to do on Sundays next year. There isn't anyplace to hide against Brandon Marshall or Dez Bryant or Jordy Nelson or any of the other first line receivers in the NFL. I think he'd be much better served to get out there and compete. If he thinks he's good enough, there's a prime time opportunity Friday night to prove it. 


chitown buckeye's picture

I laugh thinking about Roby matching up with Megatron!

"I'm having a heart attack!"

cdub4's picture

I laugh thinking about most NFL cornerbacks at any point and time matching up with Megatron.

okiebuck's picture

The Bucks need WE guys, not I guys; we will not miss Roby when he;s gone.

"Fate has cards that it don't want to show"

DefendYoungstown's picture

I predict Vonn Bell having a huge game, we should be OK

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

Bobcat04's picture

I, too, have a bad feeling on this one.  The difference between Sparty's defense and ours is the difference between a win and a loss.  I just can't be confident in this (or next year's) team until the changes are made that will improve this defense.  Till then, I believe that Boyd and Watkins will light us up.  I hope I'm wrong.

2002osubuck's picture

I can't blame the guy for not playing with an injured knee, not to mention he's been playing hurt since the Wisconsin game. To say he's not tough is BS, go back and watch him tackle RBs 30-40 lbs bigger with reckless abandon the last two years. Hes making a decision with millions of dollars on the line and wants to be completely healthy for the combine to run a 4.3 forty and move back up draft boards. We aren't gonna have him next year and we've lost the real goal this year the NC, so let next years guys get experience in a big game and move on. It's too bad Reeves is the only real option, with the others redshirting, because he's given up some of the biggest plays this year but hopefully he's better after 3 weeks of bowl practices. I'm more concerned that we come out and run Clemson into the ground with Hyde, and not go away from our strength like in the B1G championship game. If we give Hyde 30-35 carries we win, regardless whos on D, it that's simple.

sivaDavis's picture

I've never seen more people call themselves Buckeye fans and then proceed to bash Ohio State and our players. How about instead of bashing Roby, think about what the defense would've been without him. Even worse than what it is now, he made huge plays all year and against UM and Wisconsin, we might lose those games without him. I'll agree if he is hurt and not playing, that's bullshit, but if he is injured and cannot play with a knee injury, it's understandable. Roby got hurt in multiple games this year and came back. We will find out if he gets cleared or not and if the medical staff thinks he can't play and he doesnt, then you can say something about his character or heart. Until then how about we be passionate about our boys that are actually playing in the game? Whether it's Burrows or Reeves, cheer them on and give them your full support! Jesus. This is 11W, the greatest college sports site and we are Buckeyes. The way some of these posts sound, it feels like I'm on MGoBlog. Calling out Roby and saying he isn't a "real Buckeye" but you're proceeding to say he's a pussy prima donna and Ohio State is going to get blown out? Some Buckeye fan you are. 

"I've had smarter people around me all my life, but I haven't run into one yet that can outwork me. And if they can't outwork you, then smarts aren't going to do them much good." - Woody Hayes

InvertMyVeer's picture

Roby not tough? That's a good one. 

Not to mention his speed alone stopped multiple scores this season. Well said, Siva and Brutus.

Football is complicated...

Brutus's picture

Can someone please show me the quote from Roby or the coaching staff or anyone affiliated to the program in any way which says that Roby is sitting out this game because he's afraid of Watkins and hurting his draft stock.  Just one quote.  You know what, forget the quote.  I'll even accept the opinion of someone's uncle's cousin who knows someone with access to the locker room which can confirm the bullshit that has been spewed on this site for the last few days.  Because until that happens, all this sounds like a bunch of whiny asshole fans complaining because some 20 year old kid is too hurt to play and this might cause us to lose.  
(Sits back, waits for post to turn grey)

JozyMozy's picture

Here here. These last two posts by Brutus and Sivadavis in particular have been very refreshing. You too, Crimson. You're doing God's work in this thread. 

cdub4's picture

I think you nailed it. He was obviously hurt in the MSU game and finished. It does sound like a bunch of whiny fans who really do not have any information or quotes to go on. Even with Miller's knee earlier in the year, you got the impression that Meyer thought Brax could have played a little earlier than he did, but I haven't heard anything like that concerning Roby.

I also would not want Roby to jeopardize his NFL career by playing on a hurt knee, and neither should any coach or teammate that is a "Buckeye"

teddyballgame's picture

We needed Spence though.  He was our epic sacks guy.

Zimmy07's picture

I'd guess Roby has known for some time that he can't go.
It would explain Vonn Bell's confidence about starting.

Crimson's picture

Roby is the boundary CB.  Vonn Bell is going to be the starting nickel CB (Star).  Roby has nothing to do with Bell.

Zimmy07's picture

(sorry for the extra post, my phone is a jerk sometimes)

armybucknut's picture

Irregardless, if BR doesn't play all will be fine, I have faith the coaching staff have been putting in ot with the db's. I'm excited to get a peek at next year's defense versus the striped kitty's potent offense.

"Illegitimi non carborundum"

northwest_buckeye's picture

I'm really starting to not look forward to Friday night...

I've never said I 'hate' anyone because that would imply I had any emotion for them whatsoever.

Eph97's picture

As I said before about Roby, if he's able to play he should go out and lay it on the line against Watkins. His draft status is already fixed in the 2nd round; he's not going to slide into the 3rd just for getting torched one more time. On the other hand, if he plays the game of his life and shuts down Watkins he could slide back into the 1st round.

teddyballgame's picture

I hope watching some football tonight inspired him to play through it if he can.  Even a Roby at like 75% is better than what would replace him.

swainpm's picture

This chatboard makes me really sad. Too many reminders on here about why tOSU fans are looked upon poorly by the rest of the country. Working in physiotherapy for over 10 years I just want to point out how absurd I find a "fan" who questions a players heart and worth for sustaining an injury. If a player is injured and chooses not to play a real "fan" would feel sympathy for the player who contributed to their team's success ALL season. Additionally, I didn't realize the amount of chatboard contributors who are privy to team medical information. Apparently it is pretty easy to question a players injury because we all know what they are going through. Downvote me all you want for criticizing other posts but in my opinion too many "fans" on this board need to man up and learn to support the team/players when they can't play. That said, Go Bucks and if Roby can play I will be thrilled for his contribution.

3cent's picture

Yep, a lot of " fans" on here are saying stuff that make them sound like SEC fans.

cdub4's picture

No down votes from me. It blows my mind how may couch potatoes have opinions on Roby and his injury from watching on TV. I like how message board posters who have never worked out at 5AM with coach Marotti, never been to a film session with an OSU coach, never been to a two a day practice or walks through Woody Hayes telling a man who has been here four years that he isn't a Buckeye.

I have never met Bradley Roby in my life. I am not his coach or teammate. I would say 95+% of the people on this message board do not know Roby on a personal level and really are not in a position to know how tough he is. I will admit I don't have a clue about his mental or physics toughness. Urban Meyer, Luke Fickell, CJ Barnett, Braxton Miller etc may have a good idea, but most of us need to realize we fall in the 95% that are not in the position to judge Roby's toughness or character.

cinserious's picture

I'm tired of hearing all the Roby hurt/ Roby not hurt drama!
Anyone know what the hell Noah Spence did to ruffle the feathers of the Big-10?

"Get him a body bag, Yeah!"

andyb's picture

Yeah he accidentally ingested a banned substance, his parents and the OSU athletic department tried to appeal the decision and it was denied. 

Barnsey69's picture

Roby doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would duck a challenge, that being said I understand why there is basis for SPECULATION, since this is his last non-professional game. The only person that actually knows the truth is Roby. I think if he is able to play he will. It doesn't hurt to keep Clemson guessing either.
Go Bucks! Win the damn game!!!

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Buck Commander's picture

Roby will get ate up in the NFL........he weak

Silver Bullets are not only for drinking and killing werewolves they are also for destroying all teams in the BIG TEN..................BOOYAH JACK

BuckeyeinExile's picture

Lets be honest, I think a lot of people blame Roby for not living up to his hype coming into this season. We built him up to a level that he couldn't match, very similar to the hype surrounding Clowney this year. He didn't live up to the potential we hoped he would so people are turning on him. As long as the guy is still wearing the uniform give him the benefit of the doubt. If he was such a prima dona or locker room distraction do you think Meyer would have let him go through Senior Day activities? The guy did come back and try to play the rest of the BIG Championship game after being hurt. Cut him some slack, wish him well, and appreciate the fact that we had him here and he didn't become a receiver at Vandy instead.

DefendYoungstown's picture

We built him up to a level that he couldn't match, very similar to the hype surrounding Clowney this year.

Not sure I agree with this, based on how he played in 2012 I think we expected him to play at the same level and not regress. I give him credit for coming back for his senior year, I think we all thought this was going to be a special year. I wish him the best of luck in the league next year.

What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.

2002osubuck's picture

I wouldn't be surprised if Meyer and Coombs even suggested he sit out and get healthy for the draft. Our coaches care about the players and want the best for them. They know Roby sacrificed a lot coming back this year to win a NC and now that isn't a possibility, their making sure he makes the right decision for his future. I'll take a coach standing by a player any day because it creates trust with the players and future recruits. It's good for tOSU if Roby can get drafted in the 1st round and he might if he's healthy for the combine running in the 4.3s. I'm gonna enjoy vonn bell's first start and watching Hyde run the ball for the last time in the S&G, and possibly miller, while he carries us to victory literally. 

buckuar's picture

I'm reading through the comments on this thread (I didn't read all of them) and I must say that I'm surprised and a little disappointed...  The negativity flowing around here is pretty disappointing.  We've lost ONE GAME IN TWO YEARS and that team just "out-physicalled" another VERY physical team.  Sparty BEAT us and then they BEAT Stanford. 
I have a tremendous amount of faith in the system that is currently in place in Columbus.  I think they will come out like their hair is on fire tomorrow night just to prove that they deserve to be in a BCS game and that they can handle their business.
As for what happens Saturday and the weeks/months after that, let it play out.  All of these kids, including Roby and Miller, have played their hearts out for us and for this coaching staff for 25 games.  They've "failed" ONCE.  Don't get on a message board and question the heart of a 20 year old kid that's hurt.  If he plays hurt and we lose, then what would the message boards read? 
"Roby screwed us by playing hurt and getting burnt!!!"
I take my Buckeye football as seriously as anyone, but bitching about a player being hurt and having no heart is taking it over the top.  These kids are at The Ohio State University to improve their lives in the future, whether it's with a degree or with a NFL contract.  Would a career-ending injury (i.e. C.B.?) help ANYONE?
These KIDS are human beings with dreams and aspirations and families and financial worries, etc. just like most people on this board.  Give them a break.  Give Roby the benefit of the doubt.  These guys go through HELL for 6 months out of the year to ENTERTAIN us.  Let's not forget these things.  They've been through more than most 20 year old college kids have been through when it comes to pressure. I never had 100,000 people yelling at me while I tried to take a test.  Did you?
Come on, Buckeye Nation.  We're better than this. 
Go Bucks. 

2002osubuck's picture

+1 for that. It's drives me nuts when our fans attack our players like this. Im an '02 grad and was close friends with many of the players and they bleed S&G for the fans, literally. I can tell you that those guys play with more pain and injury on a normal basis that the normal fan would never know, unless you coach or played football beyond HS. I have more respect for the walk-ons on the team, than to question the heart of any player, let alone one who helped us get the most wins in a row in tOSU history. Thank you Roby and all the seniors for all you've done for the program, can't wait to see you finish strong. Go bucks!

tracyre's picture

THANK YOU.  this post is so damn spot on.  I can't tell you how many times I think the SAME EXACT things.  Don't know if you hit other sites and their boards but those kinds of thankless and thoughtless comments spew endlessly...
thank you for thinking properly and having a little class along the way.