Ohio State Third in BCS, One Domino From Reaching Title Game

By Kyle Rowland on November 10, 2013 at 8:30p
Eyes on the prize, gents.
1 Alabama .996
2 Florida State .962
3 Ohio State .893
4 Stanford .869
5 Baylor .862
6 Oregon .767
7 Auburn .721
8 Clemson .720
9 Missouri .712
10 South Carolina .558

The weekly release of the Bowl Championship Series rankings has become dramatic theater. The No. 1 team has yet to change – Alabama has a stranglehold on the top spot – but the second- and third-place teams have been modified on a non-stop basis.

Stanford’s upset of Oregon on Thursday night was the latest wrench tossed in the vicinity of the BCS. It thrust Ohio State into a spot at the table, and while the Buckeyes aren’t enjoying fine wine just yet, they’re on the dinner list.

The No. 2 Seminoles lead by nearly seven hundredths of a point over third-ranked Ohio State, but more important for the Buckeyes is their two hundredths of a point advantage over one-loss Stanford and three-hundredths lead on Baylor.

A possible boost for Ohio State in December awaits as Michigan State sits at No. 16. An 11-1 Spartan squad would almost certainly be positioned in the Top 10. Wisconsin is ranked 22nd.

Despite its loss to five-loss Utah, Stanford is still ranked in front of the undefeated Baylor Bears. The Cardinal is buoyed by computer-heavy wins over Oregon, UCLA, Arizona State and Washington. Baylor is ranked ahead of Stanford in both human polls, but an average computer rating of 5.5 is holding the Bears back.

However, strength of schedule could start to be an asset to Baylor. It’s computer rating jumped four spots this week after a win over Oklahoma. Remaining on the schedule is Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and Texas.

The hunt for the national championship is officially a five-team race unless the havoc that enveloped the 2007 season reappears.

Fresno State may have been the biggest winner of the week. The Bulldogs are a near lock for the Fiesta Bowl if they win out. They’re all the way up to 14th in the standings, three spots clear of AAC leader Central Florida.

Northern Illinois, vying for its second consecutive BCS bowl, is 15th.


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Zofinda's picture

UCF's ranking is irrelevant correct? AAC has an automatic bcs bid I thought?

KE's picture

Correct. Highest ranking ever for UCF has Orlando going nuts.

Kyle Rowland's picture

No, one of the ways Fresno or Northern Illinois gets in is if they're ranked higher than lowest ranked automatic qualifier. 

Scarlet_Lutefisk's picture

AQ champs don't get bumped.
If a school from a non-AQ conference (Northern Illinois or Fresno St) is ranked at least #16 and is higher than a champ from an AQ conference (UCF) then the school is automatically in, but it does not replace the AQ champ.
If the current standings were the final ones....#14 Fresno St, #15 Northern Illinois, #17 UCF....then Fresno State and UCF would both be automatic qualifiers. Northern Illinois would get left out.

Zofinda's picture

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

kareemabduljacobb's picture

Good luck to UCF.. they have them projected to play Baylor in the Fiesta.

hit_the_couch's picture

AAC is no longer an AQ conference from what I understand.
I was lied to; I guess they just aren't tied to a specific bowl.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

cinserious's picture

AAC is no longer an AQ conference from what I understand.

How is that? The AAC is in its first year. Were they just teased about being an Automatic Qualifier? I call bullying!

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

mr.green's picture

Miami and Florida losses not helping FSU's SoS. Just keep winning, Buckeyes.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

Need Clemson to lose again.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

harleymanjax's picture

Can you imagine the butthurt from ESPN if OSU and Baylor are the only undefeated teams and end up 1-2 in the BCS?

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

Kyle Rowland's picture

Not much, because their TV rating would be huge. OSU = eyeballs. 

BuckeyeChris's picture

One ... brick... at ... a .... time!! 

GoBucks10's picture

"Because I couldn't go for three."  - Woody Hayes

DaiTheFlu's picture

I'm still astounded that Wisconsin can't crack the top 20, even after a win over a very solid BYU team. It's almost laughable at this point.

We can't stop here; this is bat country...

harleymanjax's picture

I blame Bert!

"Because I couldn't go for 3"

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

SEC fan logic says that Bert losing 7 in a row shows how weak the BigTen is.

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

cinserious's picture

That one 'home cookin' game @ ASU where the PAC-12 refs clearly cheated for the home conference, set the table for the PAC-12 being the 'challenger' 2nd best conference in the country, while the B1G has been labeled a piece of shit conference all year. Makes me sick!

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

buckeyes763's picture

I still find it amazing that Ohio State- winners of 21 in a row (against nobody) - is closer to one loss stanford than FSU

Go Bucks's picture

If Baylor loses, Stanford would move up in both human polls.  Computer rankings would likely be little changed.  The resulting BCS ranking would have the Cardinal in a virtual tie with the Buckeyes.  Hopefully Sparty continues to win leading up to the B1G Championship Game.

NewEraBuckeyes's picture

I'm not worried about Stanford passing Ohio State, because it really doesn't matter. Alabama or FSU have to lose for Ohio State to be in. . . period.

Haines City Fl Buckeye's picture

                 Think about this.Every time we hit the field now our players are even more pressed than either of FSU or Alabama for they now know a win is good,but we gotta blow the teams out each week.Now when things are not going great for us im concerned that players start thinking about that and even press harder which canlead to mistakes.I think its a shame that its a beauty contest now and not how impressive a 21 win steak is against whoever.I have come to conclusion that i dont care if we make it to the NC game as long as our streak continues and goes into next year aswell(cant complain about winning).

              Anthony Dunne
                  Living and breathing Bu

36buck's picture

stanford's sos notwithstanding, it is absurd you can lose to a 4-5 team (utah) and still be ranked ahead of osu as in sagarin's rankings.  thank god the computers are gone next yr.

RedStorm45's picture

Utah's only conference win.

jkrk's picture

Really, I just don't have the brain categories for this to make sense. It's okay that they lost because they took a game off? Infuriating. 

buckeyedude's picture

It's the computers that are keeping the Buckeyes ahead of the Cardinal and Baylor right now, right? But at least next year, there will be a 4 team "playoff." It will be much harder to keep an undefeated Buckeye team out of that.



AndyVance's picture

Actually, no. The computers flipped Ohio State and Stanford this week, with the Cardinal coming in at #3 and the Buckeyes at #4.
Only Peter Wolfe's rankings (one of the six computers used in the BCS average) have Ohio State at #3 this week, Sagrin has us at #5, and Massey has us down to #6.
Stanford, on the other hand, is all 3s, save Wolfe at 4 and Anderson-Hester at 5.

fanatibuck's picture

hmmmm...........very, very, interesting! Go Bucks!!!


darkhorse3d's picture

It's kinda deflating when TTUN is in shambles. One would think UM would be a guaranteed top 25 matchup. How things change. Thanks for nothing Brady Choke...

buckz4evr's picture

As I've said before....One more reason to hate them.  They are not only screwing themselves, but us also.  There's a slight  possibly that in the end, they will get the last laugh, even if we kick their butts all the way into the pits of hell.  God, I hate that team

buckeyedude's picture

You guys need to quit rooting for TTUN. It's time to start rooting for Wisconsin and MSU to win out, until we play them in the B1G CG.
There is 0 need to root for the Wolverines. Its very unbecoming of a Buckeye fan(and it's futile. They suck. They're going to keep losing). I hope they lose the rest of their games, personally, that way my UM co-workers will keep their pie holes shut at least until they start talking about next season in mid-January.



Dublin68's picture

And also rooting for Buffalo to finish the season 11-2 and beat Northern ILL in the MAC championship game.
We need MSU AT 11-1
WIS 10-2
Buffalo 11-2

Buckeye1004's picture

I agree!  If you are a true Buckeye fan, you NEVER root for ttun!  There is never a good reason to root for ttun!  You may root for the team going against ttun to lose, but NEVER EVER root for ttun!

Frankly Scarlet's picture

Everything hangs on The Big One in Ann Arbor, and despite what we have seen from them the past two weeks, expect it to be a slobberknocker. 

"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  

FitzBuck's picture

And blood on the field?

Fitzbuck | Toledo - Ohio's right armpit | "A troll by any other name is still a troll".

buckeyedude's picture

That's almost guaranteed, Fitz. Taylor Lewan's forehead is bleeding every game now.



ibuck's picture

The Buckeyes still have to win a trophy game @ Illinois in windy conditions and at home vs a very good Indiana offense, before they head north. 
One. Game. At. A. Time.  
One play at a time. Focus is needed.

Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !

If you can't win your conference, just quietly accept your non-playoff bowl game.

Buckeyevstheworld's picture

@ Illinois in windy conditions

Roll Hyde! 

"YOLO" = I'm about to do something extremely ignorant/stupid & I need an excuse to do it.

cinserious's picture

I was thinking the exact same thing but also with Rod Smith, Jordan Hall, Braxton Miller/Guiton, Elliott, hell even Cardale! Its gonna happen and its gonna get ugly!

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

3technique's picture

Two things. First, if we play the Stanford team I saw Thursday, we would dominate them! Second, if TOSU does not make it the national championship game, then we pound who ever into submission, and UFM gets past fielding youst's 29 wins, thus pissing off even more TTUN's fans! Win win...

hit_the_couch's picture

Geez, we move up a spot but are still .7 back from the money position; the two teams behind us are .3 back. Someone/ something is doing their best to keep us out and just waiting for the Bucks to slip up to get jumped. BCS is killing me.
I hope Sparty and UW win out.
I was shocked that known SEC homer and all around d-bag Chris Low was a firm believer that Wisky is very underrated. I can't stand Low and was shocked that I agreed with him. Now i'm rooting for both teams.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

BME_Buckeye's picture

In other news, Oregon fans are desperate for USC to beat Stanford so they can get to the Rose Bowl. I could not imagine how dirty that feels. That game was fun two years ago in the Colesieum. Should be a good game this year.

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.


hit_the_couch's picture

If USC can't beat Stanford when Cardinal is a 40 point dog, then I don't think they have a prayer this year.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

BME_Buckeye's picture

Well I certainly hope Stanford hammers the Trojans and Marcus Lee. It would be funny to see Oregon denied the Pac 12 title and Rose Bowl after losing to Stanford and taking out USC in the South. 

Look closely, because the closer you think you are, the less you will actually see.


36buck's picture

I heard Palmer. These idiots just like to hear themselves whether they make sense or not.  Just idiots.

William's picture

Maybe he just wasn't having a Jesse Palmer night. He clearly wasn't announcing at a Jesse Palmer level, you can't hold that against him. 

William's picture

It's an absolute load of shit that Stanford, a team that lost to a 4-5 Utah team, is ranked ahead of Baylor, an undefeated team in an AQ conference. This system is a crock, and only gets incrementally better with a 4 team playoff. An 8 team playoff can't get here soon enough. 

pjtobin's picture

I hope we win out. And I wouldn't mind playing in the rose bowl. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

cinserious's picture

I truly believe The Buckeyes need not worry about getting jumped from behind. If Baylor's remaining schedule is tough enough to eclipse the Bucks, then it is tough enough for them to lose a game. Even if Baylor wins out, the B1G championship game (which the BIG-12 doesn't have) will pull OSU back in front, even if MSU screws around and doesn't give us our top-10 matchup. We beat ANYBODY badly enough in that one extra game, we're in.
If Stanford wins out, they might have the computers over us  but that's only 1/3 of the formula. Human polls make up 2/3 of it and there is no way real people don't want to see an undefeated, Urban Meyer coached OSU team play for the National Championship. No way!
Only the teams in front of us are the real threat. FSU can't lose against the pansies they play in that over hyped-but-super-weak ACC and Alabama also overmatches their overhyped  SEC competition. However, there is much more hope for a 'Bama loss going forward.

One day I will valiantly become a political prisoner of 11W jail.

GOOMBAY's picture

Is there ever *not* hope for a Bama loss?
P.S. Just a phenomenal avatar.

GOOMBAY's picture

Not much to add in X's and O's here, but thinking this comes down to flipping the dubious script on OhIo State and the Big Ten. Winning out is the baseline, but style points may be a lost cause amongst the lazy talking heads (i.e., "Big Ten is weak"). 
The way to change the narrative lies with the increasingly efficient D complementing the increasingly dynamic O. OSU cannot extract itself from its schedule or conference, so the sell becomes "who do you want to see play Alabama?" (There is a greater probability of ESPN dumping several pointless subsidiary channels than backing away from the Alabama/dynasty storyline)
So, while points will never hurt, the facelift of sorts becomes freakish stats/stories on both sides of the ball: alarming rushing totals, crazy distribution to receivers, gaudy turnover ratio, young studs mauling QBs, etc. Add in intangibles like two seasons, undefeated, bowl ban redemption, Saban v. Meyer, and that youthful wunderkind Heisman candidate storyline loses a bit of luster.
This suddenly seems dirty, but whatever. Win out. Dominate. The proto-gameplan.

BassDropper's picture

The Tigers are going to end up losing this weekend. 


FROMTHE18's picture

Anyone else still amazed that had it not been for a shamble of a call, Wisconsin's lone loss would be against us, yet they get no respect in the polls and by default we don't either? I just think pollsters should take other things into account other than the B1G patch on the jersey of a team.

AndyVance's picture

You know, this BCS situation reminds me of something that legendary M*ch*g*n coach Bo Schembechler said after the infamous 10-10 game and the tiebreaker vote that sent the Buckeyes to the Rose Bowl. The next season, while Ohio State was riding at or near #1 in the polls, TTUN was more like 4th or 5th... Bo quipped something to the effect that "We're the only team in history recovering from an undefeated season."
That quote stood out to me as I'm currently reading Michael Rosenberg's War As They Knew It: Woody Hayes, Bo Schembechler, and America in a Time of Unrest.

buckuar's picture

That quote seems to be extremely fitting right now. I'll be sure to tweet it to Herbie later...  :-)