Wednesday Practice Update: Florida A&M Week

By Kyle Rowland on September 18, 2013 at 7:30p
Urban: Miller likely to play Saturday.

Columbus has been on Braxton Watch for more than a week now. It appears all the mystery and intrigue is coming to an end. Head coach Urban Meyer said on Wednesday that Miller should play in a limited role against Florida A&M, even though he’s still not operating at full speed.

The quarterback practiced Wednesday, and according to offensive lineman Jack Mewhort, Miller took more mental reps than physical reps. That’s in line with last week, when Kenny Guiton practiced with the first-string offense for nearly the entire week.

Regardless, Mewhort believes there is little reason to worry.

“We have two good quarterbacks,” he said.


  • What Meyer is worried about is next week and beyond – the Big Ten schedule. Ohio State is undefeated and ranked in the top 5, but the Buckeyes haven’t been as dominant on either side of the ball as some expected, coaches included.
  • Adolphus Washington will not play Saturday and is probable for Wisconsin, Meyer said.
  • Meyer said the linebacker position remains the most concerning part of the team. He said there were misses in recruiting in recent years and said it’s caused a lack of depth at a key position.
  • In front of the linebackers, though, Meyer remains impressed in the defensive line. He lauded the coaching of Mike Vrabel and said the injuries to Washington and Tommy Schutt could have been devastating. Instead, the next guy up performed well and the unit hasn’t missed a beat.
  • Meyer said Schutt may not have been listed as a starter, but he was going to play half the snaps on defense. Schutt broke his foot the first week of the season and is due back in October.
  • Running back Carlos Hyde, who served a three-game suspension and had to earn his way back on the team, has done more than the coaches have asked of him, Meyer said.
  • Though Hyde remains low on the depth chart, he will play Saturday. Meyer raved about Jordan Hall’s production. Hard to take carries away from him.
  • Hall said you have to be unselfish if you want to win. That’s why he’s welcoming Hyde back with open arms. He knows he can improve the Buckeyes’ offense.
  • This week presents an opportunity for Ohio State to work on some of its weaknesses, Hall said. Fundamentals are the main thing he’ll try to improve.
  • The opponent hasn’t brought the team down. Hall said the Buckeyes have had two good days of practice. No sign of complacency.
  • Hall said Meyer is very eager and anxious in practice. Wants to get back on the playing field.
  • Pittsburgh Brown said Vonn Bell, Eli Apple and Cam Burrows continue to do well in practice. Thinks all three have a bright future.
  • C.J. Barnett said the defense has only been OK through three games. He thinks they’ve had too many missed tackles and lapses in coverage.
  • Instead of thinking of particular games as possibilities to make a statement, Barnett said it’s about the entire season and the whole body of work.
  • On the dime and penny (seven defensive backs) defenses, Barnett said he’s in favor. He’s all for having as many DBs on the field as possible. The depth they’ve shaped in the secondary allows them to get creative in coverages, Barnett said.
  • “Oh, man. Seems like they’re always doing something.” –Clevelander and Browns fan Marcus Hall, on the team trading Trent Richardson.

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Knarcisi's picture

No turnovers, few penalties this week. 

dwcbuckeye's picture

Thanks for the update.  A couple things I note from the above.  First, I wish the coaches were a little clearer on the injury to Diesel.  I admit I never have had a groin injury, but geez, is it worse than what you expected?  Meyer really does seem to like Vrabel alot.  Certainly well deserved.  I like his leadership with team, clearly he has the ability to coach and motivate.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him elevated to DC in the near future.
Go Bucks!

buckeyepastor's picture

Not much you can do for a groin injury but just give it time to heal.   The tricky part of that is so many things can aggravate it.   Reminds me of a line from "Sports Night" where Dan says to Casey (or perhaps vice versa), "Do you know what helps with a groin injury?"  Reply: "What?"  Answer: "Nothing."   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

Seattle Linga's picture

Sports Night - what a great series - wish it was still on the air.  

Knarcisi's picture

“Oh, man. Seems like they’re always doing something.” –Clevelander and Browns fan Marcus Hall, on the team trading Trent Richardson.
Hall forgot a key word at the end of this statement. That word would be: stupid. 

WiliestBuckeye's picture

Seriously. I don't think I have ever been more infuriated with the Browns, and that is saying something. The only logical conclusion is they want to tank for the first pick, but they obviously didn't need to give up Richardson to do that. Stupid all the way around. I'm so pissed off right now. Thank god for the Buckeyes.

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albinomosquito's picture

They'll just ruin it on another crappy QB..
"With the first pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select.... Johnny Manziel!"

Buckeyejason's picture

How is Manziel a "crappy" QB?


buckeyemondo's picture

can't judge this trade now; we'll have to see how the 2014 draft turns out.  browns have a ton of early round picks (7 picks in the first 4 rounds, including two #1's).
it would be nearly impossible to swing and miss on all 7 guys, so there should be at least 1-2 starters out of that mix.

Knarcisi's picture

It's the Browns.  Very possible to swing and miss on 7 guys. 

1967Buck's picture

  Thanks Kyle, nice write up. Peace and Go Bucks...

Dirty419Boy's picture

Maybe it's just a face presented to the public, but this team seems to be brimming with leadership, and a degree of unselfishness rare these days.

dlb72osu's picture

Everything seems to point toward BM sitting out this one, or at least a large portion of it. Too bad about AW. There hasn't been any drop off in performance due to quality personnel. We can only wait and see if the backups can continue to produce when they get into the B1G part of the schedule.

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biggy84's picture

I still don't understand why linebacker continues to be an issue. Not being negative, i just don't get it.

Him1stftballl8er's picture

Starters have played well. I believe it's in reference to the depth. 

The wise shall inherit glory, but shame shall be the promotion of fools. 

bedheadjc's picture

Also maybe a reference to the lack of big plays aside from Shazier?

Dublin68's picture

Thank you Kyle, please correct, 
Running back Carlos Hyde, who served a two-game suspension
should be Three-game suspension

RedStorm45's picture

Schutt didn't break his "first."
Hall is saying MEYER (or Hyde) is anxious to get back on the playing field?

RedStorm45's picture

Actually pointed out nothing about grammar.  Just minor typo(s).

tallydoug's picture

But it really really hurts when you break your first, especially the foot week of the season.

Seattle Linga's picture

Being a Browns fan in Seattle I am glad I got my Buckeyes.

Buckeyejason's picture

How is there still Brown fans?


DannyBeane's picture

Some people feed on their own suffering. Their pain becomes a part of their personality. 

Seattle Linga's picture

I am starting to question that myself. I guess it's a love affair

EvanstonBuckeye's picture

cue background music of The Police, "King of Pain" right abooouuuut here!

MN Buckeye's picture

The 0-2 Minnesota Vikings are starting to view the Browns game as an exhibition. The local pundits are saying this would be the worst loss ever for the Vikings if they lose on Sunday.

headina's picture

Are*. Grammar police 4 lyf


Buckeye.383's picture

It will be good for Braxton to get some game time reps and hopefully he'll be healthy and ready to go for next week against Wisky!

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Spider1944's picture

I hope Braxton doesn't take a shot. 

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

Bubba 81's picture

Braxton should sit this week if he can't practice at full go. When he can practice, he should play, otherwise he may get more injured ( RG3 ). Too be clear Braxton is the started when fully healthy.
Hyde should have the ball in his hands at tailback. It seems 3 good games against 3 bad defenses have elevated the perception of J. Hall's abilities vs. Hyde's.
If you we're an NFL general manager would you draft J. Hall or Carlos Hyde? I would take the bigger/faster player any day. Thoughts? 

saltybuck61's picture

They are different types of backs. Hall is shifty, versatile, and has good vision. Hyde is big and runs hard. On top of that he is an excellent blocker. Jordan Hall has done well this season though. I believe that there is a spot for both of them in this offense.

cinserious's picture

Hyde's vision has gotten better over the last year or so


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ScarletNGrey01's picture

Hall has really been impressive.  He fits in so well with Meyer's offense.  Hyde is a human bowling ball, he has the potential to be one of the most powerful and feared backs in the country.  Then you have "he could go all the way on any carry" Wilson.  Elliot is going to be a good one.  Rod Smith (like Kenny G.) could start for 80% of teams out there.  Most schools would salivate to have Ball or Dunn on their team.  Just plain ridiculous.

The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes

Spider1944's picture

Love Hall. Play Hyde. Hyde has got to get his reps. Third down, without Braxton, was looking pretty long against Cal. GO BUCKS!!! 

"There are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad" - the Curse of Woody Hayes

Buckeyejason's picture

^ I don't see how who would be drafted higher has to do with who's playing great ball right now..and possibly better for the offense?


EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Not surprised that Braxton's recovery is taking this long, or that Meyer wants to get him reps this week. We know Braxton wants to play, but Meyer's handling of him will be interesting to watch. Plan in place seems perfectly appropriate.
Comment about "misses in recruiting in recent years" regarding LBs is about as devastating a comment to many, many people as you will hear a head coach utter. That was a barb, pure and simple.

D-Day0043's picture

Yeah, I caught that too. I was wondering about that. I guess Meyer didn't approve of the recruits Tress was bringing in. I also remember Meyer not being happy about the body types of the players when he got here.

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carton's picture

Almost everyone is throwing out this phrase,
Jordan Hall is shifty.
I never buy 'shifty' part.
Maybe it's just me,
but he's been here 4+ years and never prove so at least to my eyes.

Buckeye06's picture

Hall is 5th in the country in rushing yards.  He must be doing something right

Poison nuts's picture

This! Hyde is awesome, but Hall is certainly earning the right to play at RB. It's not like he's slacking. If he were keep up the current pace - he'd break 1600 yds on the season.
As an aside - if OSU only had the log jam they have at RB for LBs - this team would be nearly unstoppable IMHO.

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D-Day0043's picture

He has never done anything to impress me either and I had virtually no confidence in him coming into the season, but I will give credit where credit is due. He looks faster, quicker, and more agile. Mariotti has obviously done some serious work on him and credit to Hall for putting in the work. He has earned some touches.
My choice for starter is Hyde. People forget that Miller was pretty much shut down the last 1/3 of the season and if it wasn't for Hyde the team wouldn't have went undefeated. Miller wasn't putting teams away - Hyde was.

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Paulillo's picture

Off the top of my head, I'd say his punt return for a TD against Michigan and his TD against Florida in that awful bowl game displayed his shiftiness.

Buckeyejason's picture

If Hall has any strength it's that he can shift with the best of them. As a freshman he was breaking dudes ankles from the moment he stepped on campus.


rekrul's picture

Looking forward to seeing Brax, Hall, Hyde and Wilson in the diamond!!!

Out Work, Out Think, Out Play!!!