Camp Meyer 2013: Practice No. 4 Highlighted by Dontre Wilson

By Kyle Rowland on August 7, 2013 at 1:09p

The legend of Dontre Wilson has been shrouded in mystery for an entire summer. On the fourth day of Ohio State’s fall practice, the media finally got a glimpse. Verdict: the speedy Texan is as advertised.

Wilson lined up at both running back and receiver. On multiple occasions, he abused members of the secondary. In a scrimmage against the defense, Wilson caught a pass from Kenny Guiton at the 10-yard line, but had to navigate C.J. Barnett and Doran Grant. No problem. The afterburners came on, and Wilson outraced both of them to the end zone, even though both defensive backs had the angle.

It wasn’t all speed with Wilson, though. There was stopping at a moment’s notice and changing direction on a whim.

Another speedster: Jalin Marshall. He had a kickoff return for a touchdown. Also looked tough catching balls over the middle.

On the other side of the ball, Adolphus Washington turned in an impressive performance. It’s beginning to be the norm after a spring filled with highlights.

Left guard Andrew Norwell left the field early in practice with an apparent right ankle injury and never returned. There was no update on his status.

The best catch of the day goes to Philly Brown, who went sky-high over Bradley Roby in the back of the end zone and came down with one foot inbounds.

Tyvis Powell, Pittsburgh Brown and Vonn Bell took reps at the Star position. Barnett noted that Powell has played well so far and has embraced his role on the team. Position battles will end Saturday. Sounds like Powell is in the lead at Star.

Jordan Hall and Rod Smith split first-team running back reps. Bri’onte Dunn was third followed by Warren Ball. Carlos Hyde was the last running back to get carries.

Hyde is a very good blocking back, which is a concern while he’s out. After blocking drills, though, Dunn and Ball were both impressive, delivering hard hits.

Roby is practicing with the second-team defense. He had one interception and another that was dropped. Kerry Coombs lit into him and then came 10 pushups.

The targeting rule has been a hot topic lately. Well, Ohio State saw it enforced today after Chris Worley hit Nick Vannet high and hard.

It was a very spirited practice, a couple heated exchanged, including one between Tom Herman and Luke Fickell. Brown held Herman at bay. Both guys are uber-competitive.

Brown and Barnett also shared some shoves.

The freshmen linebackers looked like freshmen linebackers. There’s a long way to go. Depth will be issue. Josh Perry was first-team alongside Ryan Shazier.

Earle Bruce, Jim Delany and Jim Heacock were all at practice. It’s been reported that Heacock is on the staff in some capacity. Ohio State has not confirmed, though.

During the first 30 minutes of drills, Mike Vrabel spent some time griping about Michael Bennett and Noah Spencer. The starters were asked to do drills a second time more than once.

Marcus Baugh practiced, but he may wish he wouldn’t have. Tim Hinton ripped him during blocking drills and then again when he fumbled near the goal line.

Joel Hale was practicing with the first-team defensive line. But tommy Schutt is pushing him hard. Urban Meyer is really big on Hale’s leadership.

Ivon Blackman and Adam Griffin also suffered injuries that didn’t look serious.

Brown, Marshall, Devin Smith and Jeff Heuerman (two) all had touchdown catches during scrimmaging.

Taylor Decker was jolted some by Ed Warinner today. Had a couple holds called against him. All signs still point to Decker being the starter.


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johnny11's picture

Glad to hear Marshall and Wilson are tearing it up.

Borrowed Time's picture

Makes sense Dontre got #1

rdubs's picture

Would be neat if Jalin ends up with 2 and have them as a very literal 1-2 punch for the next couple years.

Urban Nation Army's picture

Would indeed but I expect him to get 7 after Hall leaves, he had it throughout HS and it's no coincidence he got 17 instead

Bet you can't say "Bert Bielma is a bumbling buffoon" five times fast.

Mizzillion's picture

I smell a nickname:  D1

IBleedSandG's picture

I like it! Nice and simple.


kgab11's picture

I like it too. But I have a feeling that in the heat of the moment my nickname for him will be "bada$$ muthaf***er"

ChazBuckeye's picture

Multiple offensive weapons are nice problems to have;-)

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

Baroclinicity's picture

Great stuff.  Is it common for coaches to go at it?

When you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

mh277907's picture

I am guessing it's not only common with this coaching staff but expected. If they are going to preach competition, it's probably a good thing for them to (respectfully) get heated amongst themselves every once in a while.


BuckeyeTilIdie's picture

Yes, but many times it is for show-- looking to add a little "pep" to the practice... this however, may have been a genuine disagreement...?

Remember that in the end you will be judged not by what you believed, planned or dreamed; but, by what you did.

FROMTHE18's picture

Fickell better sort out those LBs or Herman's offense is going to shred his defense each and every practice, especially if Dontre and Jalin get to touch the ball.

villagebuckeye's picture

The offense should rip the defense.... They led the Big Ten in scoring last year and lost only two starters.... Add a couple of dynamic play makers and a vastly improve Braxton Miller and you have something very special
The defense lost its starting front seven and is very young....They will get better with time ... This is only the fourth practice .... They will improve greatly,  but don't expect them to look great against our offense

MN Buckeye's picture

I like the fact that Herman and Fickell went at it.  I would have paid to see it!

BeijingBucks's picture

I love me some Herman but... That's a mismatch

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clogan1032's picture

I wonder if this was in regards to the high hit by Worley?

Crimson's picture

It was.  The quotes today are quite out of context; this isn't the only one.

AJW_16's picture

Great to read about actual goings on at Practice - thanks for the coverage!

"Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you." 

ODEEZ330's picture

Love the coaches trying to beat each other. This team is loaded with stars from deisel and spence to roby shazier to freshman wilson and marshall and of course xbrax. I'm soo excited for this yr. GO BUCKEYES!!!!

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FROMTHE18's picture

Hope Spence can catch up to Washington's progress. Shame about the LB situation, would love some balance rather than just havin Shazier there. Hope Baugh is mentally tough. The suspension and rough performance can hurt a young players confidence and hope its not the case here. Really hope Ball gets a chance to show what hes got this year, and with Norwell's injury and Decker's issues in todays practice, our OL needs to straighten things out fast. But wow, damn sure glad Jalin and Dontre have come in to impress, keep it up fellas.

BUCKI06's picture

The LB's are starting to concern me a little bit.  I forgot who wrote the comment, but it was something along the lines of missing Sabino this year.  I think it was easy to forget how important he was last year.
Early in practice though, hopefully the freshmen will step it up and be able to get some productive PT this year.
I am excited to see Perry in a starting role - I've always thought he looked good when he was in the game.

"As long as we're keeping score, we're gonna try to win this thing." - UFM

fear_the_nut70's picture

Once you remove injuries from the equation, linebacker play may be the key to the whole season and how far we go.  I remember last year getting dinked and dunked to death because LB's were out of position, took the wrong angle on tackles, didn't wrap up, etc.  If a team can do that to you, they can move the ball all day long on short passes which keeps your D on the field. This can't be Ryan Damn Shazier and a bunch of guys sleepwalking through the D at LB or we're in for some real problems, especially with an O that can score on one play, meaning the D will be on the field quite a bit. 
I had one other thought that is more positive--I thought we were lacking on fundamentals a bit last year (positioning, angles, tackling, etc.)  I always thought the fundamentals were a strength for Heacock, and perhaps the reason he was brought back in some capacity.  I hope that I am right on both accounts...

BKLYN_Buckeye's picture

We need at least one of the Freshmen LB to step up this year. Hopefully the Abusement Park can get some early PT.

Hovenaut's picture

Great info Kyle, keep it coming!

cinserious's picture

Thanks Kyle. I absolutely LOVE these updates! Dontre Wilson and Jalin Marshall will get tons of PT this year essentially starters. I also cant wait to see Joel Hale break loose on the D-line.

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ChazBuckeye's picture

"Earle Bruce, Jim Delany and Jim Heacock were all at practice. It’s been reported that Heacock is on the staff in some capacity. Ohio State has not confirmed, though."

One more time for the record, they aren't going to say much about Jim H.  His capacity will be a mystery as long as they can keep it one.  He'll be helping with "video" or something like that. They don't want any distractions...and all this and that about what Jim's "job title" is plain silly to me (who really cares what they call his job title?).  He'll be assisting and that's all we need to know (the defense will be better for a multitude of reasons and not just Jim being on staff, but it sure won't hurt either;-)

Some people think we’re the hunted.I don’t feel that way at all.We’re the hunter.Everybody wants an angry football team.Everybody wants a team on edge and a hungry team.If you’re a hunter,that usually equates to being hungry.

trukjo's picture

I agree - I was thrilled to hear Jim H is "involved" with the program.  Also note that Delany knows which team to watch...

osu07asu10's picture

One more time for the record, they aren't going to announce him as part of the "coaching staff" because we have the maximum number of coaches allowed by NCAA rules.
Maybe Kyle can tell us, did you observe Heacock coaching any players? Probably not, because our coaching staff was doing that.
There is nothing strategic about Ohio State's lack of information on Heacock, he's part of the support/video staff, don't sensationalize it man.

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razrback16's picture

@ Chaz
Agree. IMO he's there to advise and assist a much younger coordinator and Heacock has a LOT of coaching and gameplanning experience in his time as a coach. I don't expect him to do any on-field coaching. I would bet, given his background, he will breakdown film and help Luke & Withers gameplan for opponents.

rdubs's picture

The good thing about the Hale/Schutt situation is you can make Hale a "starter" for leadership reasons and then play Schutt the majority of the snaps if he turns out to be a better player.  With so much subbing on the dline both will have plenty of chances.  Also as good as Simon was, Washington might already be better.  Just need that leadership that Simon took with him.
Also, Dontre was the main guy I wanted from last year's class when I heard we had a shot at him.  I wasn't surprised that he went to Oregon originally, but I stayed optimistic given the various issues that they had surrounding the program.  When he flipped I was ecstatic.  Can't wait to see him break the defenses' ankles this fall.

Ahh Saturday's picture

Washington will be better than Simon; the only question is when. Right now, I guess I'd take senior Simon over sophomore Washington, but that could change by the time conference play starts. I loved Simon, but Washington will be a 1st rounder eventually.

FROMTHE18's picture

Theres been a lot of talk about how scary Washington is to opposing coaches, hope he continues to get better and becomes our version of Clowney. 

urbanwarfare's picture

how did Johnny football look?

OSUStu's picture

DJ will tell you tomorrow.

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Oyster's picture


"Scrolling hurts my finger"

(and FitzBuck was clearly the winner)

Oyster's picture

(how did that happen?)

"Scrolling hurts my finger"

(and FitzBuck was clearly the winner)

jkrk's picture

Zoom zoom zoom!

bucknasty13's picture

So did the offense or defense win the scrimmage today?  Kind of sounds like the offense took the W today.

chicagobuckeye's picture

I can't tell whether this is a joke or not. That was Kansas, the Jayhawks, not K-State. Also it counted it as a win for 2012 so they were 2-11.
I'm so confused.

darbnurb's picture

Yeah, sorry!  I meant Kansas.  

Eye27's picture

"The legend of Dontre Wilson"
Wow.  What a standard to have to live up to!  No pressure.
Seriously though, I am so excited to see the offense this year.

dan_isaacs's picture

I just hope it's better than the legend of Bam Childress.

Dan Isaacs

Squirrel Master's picture

I hope its more action than The legend of Bagger Vance!

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

Crimson's picture

Any impression of who will be on the two deep for OL?  (LB also)  I think Boren has 2nd string C locked up, and Farris probably has RT, but I don't remember hearing anything specific about who else could jump in.

osu07asu10's picture

Did anyone else starting smiling and giggling uncontrollably when reading about Wilson?

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InHartWeTrust's picture

I've been that way since he signed...glad he seems to be delivering thus far.

rdubs's picture

Happy Yes 
And don't forget Jalin!!

Buckeye06's picture

No Curtis grant update or the perry with the first team should answer that??

InHartWeTrust's picture

I'm thinking the later, a read between the lines type of thing (imo).  Looks to me like we may very well need one of these freshman LB's to pick it up quickly in order to have even minimal depth.
Still some hope that Grant may "get it", though.  Perry starting could just be a motivational thing to force Grant to work harder, or maybe they are going to move back and forth between the two and see who sticks?
Who knows?  I just know I am starting to get a bit more concerned with the LB situation as time passes by.

Buckeye06's picture

I am as well but if we are playing base nickel we really only need 4 lbers who can take snaps if we have the star in

Crimson's picture

Unless something else emerges, I think they're letting both play with the 1s.  Spots will be solid by Saturday, but until then they'll figure out what they have.

dan_isaacs's picture

If they were working in the nickel, Grant was not supposed to be in.  It has been reported that Perry would be on the field with Ryan Fucking Shazier in nickel situations.

Dan Isaacs

Crimson's picture

Ryan Damn Shazier
Urban Fucking Meyer
Get your damn, fucking names straight!  /jokefont

buckeyepastor's picture

From all that Meyer's offered in terms of philosophy on players and such, I think if they were going to put Perry in to "motivate" Grant, it would have been in the Spring.    Meyer has made it pretty clear that by now, with the exception of freshmen, he expects to know who's ready and who's not.   Grant will see time, I'm sure, at LB.   But now is the time when you'd expect to see that improvement.  Not like there's a lot of weeks left before the season.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

InHartWeTrust's picture

Agreed, and on the same token, they were raving about Grant after the Spring and his "improvement".  Now he isn't in the #1 slot, so it raises these questions.
That said, I like the post above about about Perry playing in the 4-2-5 due to his quickness, and Grant coming in when they need 3 LB on the field.  That leaves the door open for Grant to continue to improve and maybe take on the #1 spot in the 4-2-5, and builds a mold for Mitchell and Johnson to work towards (Mitchell being the quick LB, and Johnson being the more forceful LB).
Battles like these are always scary, but at the same time, they are what makes following your team so closely fun/entertaining.

hit_the_couch's picture

I hope they're right about Wilson. I've heard this number before about so and so being a stud in practice or the spring game, and when it comes to the season, they don't produce.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

rdubs's picture

I agree, but I think the difference is speed we haven't had that kind of speed since Teddy Ginn and he didn't fail to live up to the hype even as a freshman.

hit_the_couch's picture

True. And Wilson can actually run a route form what i've heard. Ginn seriously lacked in the route skills.
Saine, at least his track times, was faster but never lived up to his full potential.

And then I told her...i'm no weatherman, but tonight's forecast is calling for several inches!

InHartWeTrust's picture

The kid is electric fast, runs great routes, has great hands, catches anything close to him, has insane vision and maneuverability while running at full speed...I think he will work out alright.  I wish he was doing all this at 6'2'', but 5'10" isn't terrible.
I think Jalin will be a boss as well.

dmurder's picture

beat me too it. CURTIS GRANT????

"We have always had the best damn band in the land, now we have the best damn team in the land"- Jim Tressel 1-03-03

FROMTHE18's picture

If Grant isnt a starter this year I will be arguably the most confused person in the world. The guy is a monster and has shown he can be a very very talented linebacker, but for some unknown reason he just doesnt get it. So much talent, itd be sad to see it go to waste.

rdubs's picture

I think the issue is just personnel at this point.  They clearly like Perry in nickel formation, but I still think Grant will start in 3LB sets.  Perry is a bit faster if I recall, so they could just be trying to get that speed out there against spread teams.

Cincinnati Mac's picture

It was a very spirited practice, a couple heated exchanged, including one between Tom Herman and Luke Fickell. Brown held Herman at bay.
Someone better hold him if he thinks he's gonna get physical with Luke.

fear_the_nut70's picture

What I want to know is if Kerry Coombs has Fickell's back?  If so, that drastically tips the scales...

toad1204's picture

I'd expect Vrabs to headbutt anyone that gets in Fickell's way.

Nothing like dancing on the field in 02... 

Fugelere's picture

After seeing his wrestling highlights, my money is on Fickell as well.

Poison nuts's picture

Oh yeah, love Herman & all, but if he's the genius they say, he'll steer clear of fighting with Fickell...

"Do not pass me, just slow down - I can move right through you" Superchunk - Precision Auto.

denbuckeye's picture

Sounds like it could be resolved with the circle drill.....

buckeyepastor's picture

Still shaking my head at how we could be so exposed at LB.  Shazier is the only known quantity at the moment.   Love  the intensity of the coaches, both this year and last year.  I think last year, part of their intensity at this time of year was because it hadn't emerged from the players yet in terms of leaders.  I hope that this fall, the intensity is just the coaches being who they are, and not because they feel a need to stir things up and rouse guys out of complacency.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

RedStorm45's picture

So, all black stripes still in effect?

IBleedSandG's picture

- Hopefully Norwell's injury isn't serious.
- I'm glad Urb has Roby practicing with the 2's and Hyde taking the last RB reps. Hoping that will light a fire under both guys.
- I cannot wait to see Diesel wreck absolute havoc on opposing offenses.
- Herman vs. Vrabel. Good luck, Tom.
- Very cool to hear the intensity is at a high level this early in summer practice.
EDIT: For some reason when I read the sentence about Herman and Fickell, my mind inserted Vrabel's name instead. I just think of Mike as a more intense than Luke.


InHartWeTrust's picture

Fickell was a nose tackle in his football days and a high level collegiate wrestler.  Hiis intensity is proven, his ability to coach up LB's and call plays on D is not -- hopefully he proves that once and for all this year.

IBleedSandG's picture

Yeah, I know Luke was a beast during his playing days, but his coaching demeanor seems to be a little more on the calm side. Maybe his brief stint at HC skewed my view of him as a coach.


fear_the_nut70's picture

Me wonders if Roby is practicing with the 2's, maybe that's an acknowledgement that we may be without him for an extended period of time.  Hope not.

sfgoody's picture

If Curtis Grant isn't the answer than we need Cam Williams to step up. We lost bino, boren, klein, perkins, roberts and marcus (to a position switch). Maybe this is why we hear Darron lee repping with the LBs? I think Shaz and Perkins will be fine, but injuries strike and it could get dicey real quick.


allbucksallthetime's picture

It's way too early to be overly concerned about the play of the linebacking corps.  It sounds like they were working on nickel coverage when Shazier and Perry were mentioned. 
With the youth at linebacker, this group will need some time to develop.  The good news is that the talent is very good and hopefully they'll all be on the same page sooner rather than later.  Go Bucks!

MN Buckeye's picture

Thanks for all the great updates, Kyle!
While some of the freshmen enrolled early and were around during the spring, most have just arrived this summer, and this is only day 4 of full practices with coaches. I think many of our freshmen, including the LBs, will emerge over the next three weeks.  Too early to panic about them.

BigMoosie's picture

Really missing that (dare I say it) ESPN Training Days series they did last year. BTN should just go ahead do something like that for each team every year. Fans couldn't get enough of it last year. We ate that shit nom nom. 

VBBuckeye's picture

Agreed. BTN needs some better content. An inside look of all the programs would be much better than the same rotation of "greatest games" they have going on now.

Buckeye_Mafia's picture

How is Meyer holding up?  Does he seem worn down from all the media ish?  Or does he seem OK?  The pictures of him from the last two days kinda look like he is in a "meh" state of mind...Thanks!

"At critical moments throughout the season, we learned about the character of this football team.  This was a team of true character, of true resilience." -- President Barack Obama

tampa buckeye's picture

Im liking the mix of youth and vets on this team.

dubjayfootball90's picture

Great write up. So pumped

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

razrback16's picture

Question guys -- the Tressel banner that was removed, what did it say specifically?
(Ref: )

heartofabuckeye's picture

"Brown held Herman at bay " . Ha lucky for Herman cause Fickell would have dropped him like yesterdays newspaper !!!

Earle's picture

Y'all aren't giving Herman any credit v. Fickell.  He may be smaller, but I'll bet he's scrappy--and we know he's really smart.  But yeah, if Fick gets him on the ground, it's over.

Snarkies gonna snark. 

sir rickithda3rd's picture

fickell has 65-75 lbs on herman and was an accomplished wrestler.... honestly this wouldnt be a fight... i like the intensity and hopefully someone steps up at lb

mark may wins douchebag of the year... again

Earle's picture

Fick's probably frustrated having his guys try to chase all of Herman's weapons around.

Snarkies gonna snark. 

Nappy's picture

Can we just change the names of these articles to "Crack"?  Because, let's face it, we're all jonesin for it.

I never saw a football player make a tackle with a smile on his face

chicagobuckeye's picture

I'm thinking based on your picture you're more of a meth man

Cincinnati Mac's picture

Crack? I figured this was your drug of choice:

DannyBeane's picture

I refuse to put anything blue in my body. Especially something that makes me look like I have a michigan dental plan.

pjtobin's picture

This is the bread that feeds my soul. Thank you very much! How did Mike Mitchell do? You must tell us his daily report. We are counting on you sir. Please and thank you!

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

kareemabduljacobb's picture

I'm surprised Conley is working with the first teamers at CB opposite of Grant while Roby's investigation is pending... I thought Apple would be the guy out of all the freshmen CBs.  Does he really look better than Apple and Cam?

EDUGOON's picture

This write up is Flame!! Keep it coming 11w!!! LB Situation will work it self out. It's practice 4 folks!!!! Relax, Urb's got you homie!!! Dontre Wilson sounds like the "Truth In The Booth" and people please do not sleep on what Jalin Marshall may bring to the table this coming season and coming future. That kid can flat go. 

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CentralFloridaBuckeye's picture

Great info and update on practice!  Hope the good news keeps increasing.  Keep those injuries down as well.
Go Bucks!

BABuckeye's picture

Being a last-minute flip, Wilson MAY have taken the last spot in the 2013 class, leaving no scholarship for the punter. It sounds like this was a good trade.  I hope UFM is not forced to make a tougher choice with the last scholarship this year. 

Knarcisi's picture

Regarding C. Grant, it wasn't personnel or nickel.  Ozone said that Joe Burger of all people played MLB with the 1st team, and that Grant was on the sideline most of the day.  Is he hurt?  And why Conley over Reeves at CB?

KingsRite's picture

Great write-up! So glad to hear about several freshman stepping in and contributing. I'm not worried about offense at all...unless Brax gets injured but even then...Jazz is more than capable. I hope they are practicing the D against them pesky Bubble Screens. Those buggers put a hurt on us in out of conference play and even conference play at times. I expect CAL to do a lot of that and we better be able to stop it. Proper tackling technique needs to be forced down their throats until they do it in their sleep. So excited to get this party started!

“I have yet to be in a game where luck was involved. Well-prepared players make plays. I have yet to be in a game where the most prepared team didn't win.” -Urban Meyer-

Buckeye Knight's picture

Great write-up, thanks!
Any word on James Clark?

zbd's picture

Great job keeping us updated. Don't understand how Curtis Grant still can't get it. Not a fan of Perry myself. I'd go with the young studs of Mitchell and Trey Johnson, Camren Williams, to go with the beast Shazier.  

m5987usus's picture

I feel like line backer is one of the more difficult spots to learn as a rising college? Linebackers in hs are amazing at the run because 80% of the plays are run, but in college they have to learn pass coverage from the linebacker spot, not saying Mitchell or Johnson couldn't play and be productive as a freshman just that it is rather difficult, does anybody else agree?


Crimson's picture

LB is hard to come into.  MLB in particular is QB of the defense, so it takes a lot of work and knowledge.  I think it's the opposite with defense: it's harder to contribute as a freshman the farther you are from the ball; DL can get plenty of help from freshmen without horrible consequences.

NuttyBuck's picture

Maybe Dontre and Jalin will prove most valuable by giving our inexperienced D lots of experience day to day. I can't think of a better way to prepare our D for the spread - admittedly a weak area last year.