Meyer Knows Michigan

By Kyle Rowland on November 19, 2012 at 7:00p
75 Comments

Urban Frank Meyer III grew up on the shores of Lake Erie in Ashtabula, Ohio, during the height of the Ten-Year War. In late November he would sit intently in front of the television watching Archie Griffin and Cornelius Greene go up against Dave Brown and Dan Jilek. From an early age, Meyer was sold on the Buckeyes and aware of what the Ohio State-Michigan game meant. 

Archie Griffin was 3-0-1 against Michigan.

“It was all I knew growing up,” Meyer said on Monday. “It's all anybody knew. In the era when I grew up, there really wasn't much other than three channels on your television and this game. It was Bo Schembechler, Woody Hayes, Pete Johnson, Archie Griffin. That’s all.”

In the late 80s, Meyer got an even better taste of the rivalry during a two-year stint as a graduate assistant under then-head coach Earle Bruce. It was the week of the 1987 Michigan game that Bruce was unceremoniously fired. Athletic director Rick Bay disagreed with the decision of President Ed Jennings and resigned.

During that week, The Ohio State University Marching Band showed up on the front lawn of Bruce’s Upper Arlington home and serenaded him with university songs. The show of support brought the coach to tears with its show of support.

That Saturday, the team entered the Michigan Stadium turf wearing headbands that said “Earle.” Ohio State defeated the heavily favored Wolverines that day, 23-20.

“Great memories,” said Meyer, about the 1987 Michigan game. “I can tell you everything. I can tell you walking into Coach Bruce's office right here. This facility (Woody Hayes Athletic Center) just opened, and Rick Bay was leaned up against the wall and looked at me and said, ‘Close the door. Are you the last (coach)?’ I said, ‘Yes, sir.’ And I sat down.

“I saw a bunch of coaches with their arms on the table, with their face in their arms, and tears and the whole deal. I was the last guy to walk in, and he said that Coach Bruce will no longer be the coach after this game, and I have resigned as athletic director. It was right there out that door. I knew Mr. Bay very well and have great respect for him. Just an incredible moment in Ohio State history.”

The history of the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry dates to October 1897 when the schools first played on the football field. In the states of Ohio and Michigan, it’s a way of life. For 365 days, the fans poke at one another, and on a Saturday in late November, bragging rights are doled out for the next year. 

Ohio State wore "Earle" headbands in 1987.

When he was hired, Meyer made it a point to seek out coaches who had a firm grasp of The Game’s history.

“I wanted this to be close to home, and it is for eight of our nine (assistants), “Meyer said. “And we’re educating our ninth guy. That is Everett Withers.”

The same attitude has taken hold across the state border to the north. Michigan head coach Brady Hoke, an Ohio native, grew up rooting for Michigan and cherished the Ohio State-Michigan game. As a longtime assistant for the Maize and Blue, Hoke grew to appreciate the effort put forth by each team.

With coaches that are intimately tied to the rivalry, the passion is ratcheted up even more.

“He was born in the state of Ohio, which I still don't get – that’s another story,” Meyer said of Hoke. “But I guess it adds to the intensity. I think when you’re talking about it’s close to home, it adds fuel to the fire.”

Meyer has let the Michigan game reside in the background as quiet noise since the season kicked off in September. When the team was slapped with a bowl ban, the season became a 12-game mission to silence critics who viewed Ohio State’s 2012 slate as a meaningless and lost season.

Now 11 games have passed and Ohio State is left standing, along with Notre Dame, has one of two unbeatens in college football. Due to the postseason ban, one-game-at-a-time is out the window. Saturday is it. Michigan plays the role of season finale.

“We can talk about this game now,” Meyer said. “We talked about it as a team a little bit. We talked about it during training camp just to remember.  Obviously, you walk through the facility and there’s all kinds of tributes to this game.

“I remember the games. I remember it coming down the pipe. I remember everybody talking about it. So it’s incredible memories growing up.  And then when I was hired by Earle Bruce, obviously, his passion for this game and understanding of this game was intense. I remember that very well.”

In five days, Meyer will have the opportunity to make new memories in the rivalry that has been so dear to him since childhood.

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cplunk's picture

I love that he basically calls Hoke out as a traitorous weasel. 

buckeye76BHop's picture

Because Hoke the Philosopher King is a traitor...I love it too;-)

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

“He was born in the state of Ohio, which I still don't get – that’s another story,” Meyer said of Hoke. 

Translation:

"Hoke was and is a little drama queen, which I get, but it makes me sick, and I better not get into it right now," Meyer said of Hoke. 

biggy84's picture

Screw the Sun and Blue!

Dayton Buckeye's picture

Jabba the hoke better have enjoyed that victory last year. Meyer gets it. This is the game.

buckeye76BHop's picture

Great article Kyle....love your look back on history for some of the younger individuals who may or may not know about some of it.  I personally remember watching my Dad (Die hard OSU fan) and Grand pa (who was more of a ND fan) watching that 1987 game the week before Thanksgiving.  They both had tears in their eyes when Earle was carried off the field by the team after beating tTUN by 3 points.
 I'm pretty sure no one has to worry about Urban not getting the rivalries meaning like some other OSU coaches in the past (only Cooper in my generation).  I love the "R" word...it's time for a little of that this year, for Braxton, for those Seniors, and overall...for the 2002 National Title team who'll be in attendance.  It's time!  

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you."
"I love football. I think it is most wonderful game in world and I despise to lose."
Woody Hayes 1913 - 1987 

DIRTYBUCK's picture

I am no longer able to sit by while people use terms like "scUM" and "tsun". Please stop!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
The only acceptable term is scrotUM!!!!!!!!

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Actually, this afternoon, TTUN lost the privilege of being called scUM or scrotUM. The only UM in the Big Ten is University of Maryland. TTUN is not worthy of the letter M, even when used derisively.   

zbd's picture

Q: What do you call a Michigan player with a championship ring?
A: A thief
Q:What do you call a good looking girl on U of M campus?
A: A visitor
Q:How do you get  a M grad off your front porch?
A: Pay him for the pizza.
Q:What should you do if you find 3 M fans buried up to their necks in cement.
A: Get more cement.
 

M Man's picture

I've always admired Rick Bay and his role in the final chapter of Earle Bruce at Ohio State.  It is one of the most principled stands ever taken by an AD in the Conference.  It is awfully nice to hear such a nice appreciation of Rick Bay from Coach Meyer.
Here's Rick Bay, when he was an All-American wrestler:

Q. What does a Michigan athlete do, after he graduates?
A. He becomes the Athletic Director at The Ohio State University.

bwh's picture

So he upgraded?
 
Heyo!

MediBuck's picture

He joined the Boren family as misguided youths who finally saw the light and repented for their previous sins ;)

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes

causeicouldntgo43's picture

Yes - a principled stand and that was admirable, but 9 and 3 year after year after year just doesn't cut it at tOSU. That is fully understood by ay coach who signs up.

Njia's picture

I was a sophomore at U-M in 1987 and saw Earle's last game (probably than most of you can say). I saw the headbands, the Buckeyes go bat shit crazy on the grid iron, Michigan lose, and 100+ fans shrug and say, "Meh, this one, we can live with. Earle has class. Ohio State's administration does not."
Up until that week, my mom was a dyed-in-the-wool Buckeye, having been raised by an aunt and uncle in Dayton. Her sun rose and set in Wayne Woodrow Hayes. From that week in 1987 on, she has hated everything the school stands for. She's never cheered for them again.
For the record, I still think Earle Bruce is a great man and a great coach. When Bo died, it was Earle who offered a prayer during a banquet the evening before the 2006 game. That was a tremendous gesture and one for which I will always be grateful. 

Run_Fido_Run's picture

Meh. Of course, Michigan fans loved Earle (and John Cooper after him). It's also not surprising that fans who rooted for Buckeye football because of an emotional attachment to a coach's personality might be dismayed to find out that The Ohio State University is a big powerful institution, not a social club. Earle is a great man who continually went 9-3 and whom, by the time he was fired, had left the program relatively bereft of talent and athleticism (by Ohio State standards).           

Njia's picture

Ha, ha, yeah, not so much. In exchange for "9-3" Earle Bruce, who left OSU with a winning record against Michigan, you got "2-10-1" John Cooper who .... Didn't. (And except for his delightful and repeatable tendancy to shit the bed against Michigan, I didn't have any opinion about Cooper either way.)

Run_Fido_Run's picture

And then we got Tressel and then we got Urbz. We'll take both over Earle or Coop, thanks, neither of whom are around any longer to be the kind of coaches Michigan fans either liked or didn't have any opinion about. 

Earle's picture

I wouldn't go so far as to say that Michigan fans loved Earle.  He understood the rivalry, and had a winning record in The Game. 
I don't disagree with your assessment of the state in which he left the program.  He was not a "great" coach, but he was a good one and is a Buckeye through and through. 
I think it is unfair to put Earle and Coop in the same category, especially during Michigan Week.

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

I was kidding about TTUN fans loving Earle and Coop. Whereas Coop had a terrible record against TTUN, Earle was easy to recruit against. As bad as Coop was in the last two games of the year, he left the program in much better shape than how he found it. The same absolutely, positively cannot be said about Earle.
I, too, have a warm spot in my heart for Earle - his love for Ohio State, his loyalty, his personality. He's the greatest ex-coach in Buckeye history.
I'm struggling to find an analogy, preferably from a movie, of when a great man has to be fired as the leader/CEO of an organization for the good of that organization. It sucks, but organizational decline sucks much worse. 

Earle's picture

Can you imagine a coach with Coop's recruiting ability and Earle's fire?
I can:  Urban Meyer
It's always a great time to be a Buckeye, but especially so now!

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Njia's picture

That day in 1987, only Bo himself got a bigger welcome into Michigan Stadium. You'd have thought he was OUR coach.

buckeyedude's picture

I love Earle Bruce. He reminds me of my deceased father, in looks and personality. But no one person is bigger than the university. Not Earle. Not JT. Not Woody. Not Urban.
I personally think getting rid of Earle was a bad move, but I didn't stop loving the Buckeyes because of it. I'll try not and tell any "yo-momma" jokes for her switching loyalties.

 
 

nickma71's picture

I love Earle Bruce.

So do I...

buckeyepastor's picture

Earle is a great man and was a great coach, especially measured by how he did in THE GAME.  But things had really sort of plateued for his teams, there had been several high profile, embarrassing losses (especially Indiana).   I understand that OSU decided to go another way and go after a new face.   At the time, I think Earle had the second longest tenure in OSU history (trailing only Woody).   I think what was most objectionable is to drop that bomb right before THE GAME.  That truly was a classless move.  But how your mother, with all due respect, abandons a program, its players, its traditions, and everything because of an ill-timed decision by the administration, I don't get.  But that's just me.   The fact that she could turn from it all based on the firing of Earle makes her sound more like a fickle Michigan fan than a Buckeye.   

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

Njia's picture

My mother was born in the mountains of east Tennessee. If you've ever met anyone from there, you know that when it comes to forming (and holding) a grudge, the folks down there have few peers.

onetwentyeight's picture

Hoke is one of THOSE guys. We all know a few. Ohio people who've been to the state of michigan a handful of times and to the actual AA campus probably never. The ones who have "always just rooted" for Michigan. Just to be Different. Who eventually derive their identity from adopting the contrarian personality of Michigan Fan In Ohio. Prototypical Trolls, if you will. 
The ones who walk down the oval to the RPAC decked out in maize and blue just to elicit the derision and mocking of people. Becuase they're just that attention starved. 
 

Alice in Aggieland's picture

My best friend is married to one of THOSE guys, and he is an asshole. Grew up in NE Ohio, went to Walsh (WALSH!), and acts like the sun rises and sets on TSUN, which I am positive he has never actually been to barring a trip to the Big House. 
He sickens me. I refuse to speak to him in person. Which was super-awkward when I was a bridesmaid in their wedding.

Earle's picture

@MMAN and NJIA, I approve these messages.

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D. Anthony's picture

MMAN... What does a walking sloppy joe from Ohio do when he's not good enough to play or coach at tOSU? Becomes the Walmart Wolverines head coach (with a losing career record) after several others pass on the job.

D. Anthony

AltaBuck's picture

Hoke = Troll

I have been known on occasion to howl at the moon. - Crash Davis

BuckeyeBacker98's picture

I'm guessing you got the down vote for insulting trolls.  Trolls don't deserve that sort of abuse!

Oyster's picture

Remember, Trolls are people too!

Arizona_Buckeye's picture

I had the great pleasure of being in AA for Earle's last game!!!  Spielman was a f@#$ing beast and we stormed the field afterwards... it was just a great experience to have!!!  I am also lucky enough to be able to fly down from Toronto and attend Urban's first installment of The Game Saturday... I cannot wait to see Urban thoroughly crush Flounder Hoke!!!

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

nickma71's picture

A certain guy had 29 tackles in that game. Any chance Simon takes the next step in that regard?

BuckeyeBacker98's picture

If Simon has 29 tackles I like our chances :)
In all seriousness, I would like to see him have about 5 tackles for loss.  Our D line needs to be disruptive and push the line of scrimmage back.

pjtobin's picture

I want to slap the fat off of hoke. It might take a few million slaps but oh what fun. Just a pile of worthless crap left after I am done. My dr says writing out my angry thoughts are good for me. And why do we have a troll on here? I wish mushigan fans would move. They are not needed or wanted. Can't stand when a punk tsun fan runs their mouth with no clue. I know not all are this way. One guy I know couldn't tell you which qb has been playing for scrotum. Then likes to talk about over all record. He don't know shit. If we weren't at work I would choke him out. Take his wallet. And give what little money he has ( we work together, I'm broke too) to a bum. Of coarse then he wouldn't be able to pay his share of electric to his parents. He like most scUM fans still live in his parents basement. I am so pumped. I am mostly full of crap. So none of this is premeditated. 

Bury me in my away jersey, with my buckeye blanket. A diehard who died young. Rip dad. 

buckeyedude's picture

It sounds to me like you have some serious anger-frickin-management issues, PJTBIN!
I LOVE IT!

 
 

Boxley's picture

MMan and NJIA are AACC supporters....., AND they are also great commenters on this site. MMan has frequently submitted many highly respected commentaries and responses.
I, and I can only assume that many others on this site do not consider them trolls, but welcome their unique (obviously flawed) perspectives on the topics under discussion.
I am also assuming that you were being mostly in sarcasm mode, in your post.

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." President T. Roosevelt

BlueBayou's picture

I love coach speak and motivation tactics.  Urban does understand why Hoke would coach Michigan because Urban Meyer once contemplated doing the same thing.  How do we all know this?  Because Urban had an out clause in his Utah contract to be able to leave for the Michigan head coaching job.  (Along with Notre Dame and Ohio State).  Link provided.  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/ncaa/12/03/urban.meyer/in...
That is something you have to give credit for.  Urban knows how to work the fan base and players.  This is the same man that claimed Notre Dame was his dream job, straight from his own mouth.  As recently as 2008 he still claimed Notre Dame was his dream job (I think because the job appeared to be opening up again at that time). See link.  http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/92619-urban-meyer-notre-dame-still-...
None of this is bad though.  It just shows he knows how to work the media game with his fan base and players.  I would actually believe that tOSU is his true dream job, but based on past lobbying Notre Dame is probably 1b and Michigan is 2 with regards to pecking order.  So I would say, based on Urban's history, he does know why Hoke would want to coach Michigan because he to was willing to at one point himself.

Oyster's picture

When you are an up and coming coach at a stepping stone job like Utah, you most certainly will name some of the premier schools in an out clause, why wouldn't you?  Does that mean they are necessarily your dream job?  Probably not, but if you have the opportunity to take one of those positions, you had better have yourself in a position to strike when the opportunity is there. 

BlueBayou's picture

I agree with you Oyster, but Urban only named tOSU, ND, and Michigan and not other premier locations like Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, USC, and others....  The fact that he mentioned those three and only those three means that they mean something to him on a personal level.  When ordering from a buffet, if you have plenty of options to choose from do you put Liver and Onions on your plate even though you hate it?  No, you wouldn't.  My guess is his fandom, experience,  and choice of profession breeds a respect for those three programs more than hate.  If you respect the programs and appreciate the rivalry, you are probably willing to get in no matter which side you are on, just to be a part of it. 
With regards to dream job, Urban Meyer in 2004 and 2008 stated ND was his dream job.  This isn't speculation, it comes directly from him.  Obviously he now has said tOSU is his dream job, and I do take the ND comments with a grain of salt because Urban will lobby for what he wants, and so the ND comments I believe appear to be positioning for the HC job there, or at least leaving options open.  Like I said, I think tOSU is his true dream job, but his Catholic and midwest roots have lead to ND and Michigan being special in some way to him as well as evidenced by the out clause at Utah.  That is why I think the ranking may be 1a tOSU, 1b ND, and 2 Michigan.  Maybe even more likely to be 1 tOSU, 2a ND, and 2b Michigan.  So given that, is it really so hard to see Hoke liking Michigan being from Ohio if he too thought highly enough about Michigan to make it one of his only three special cases to leave Utah?  By the way, I also believe that if the tOSU HC job was offered to Hoke when he was at SDSU, he would have taken it.  It is a premier job and obviously he has respect for the program.

Oyster's picture

Well, you can't list too many out clauses or the contract will not be signed.  I would guess he chose schools he was familiar with and were in a geographic area close to OH     IO.  It probably went like this: 
Utah: Ok, you can have an out clause in your contract, it's pretty standard.
Coach Meyer:  Ok, OSU and ND.
Utah: Actually, most people have 3 schools, it's pretty standard.
Coach Meyer: Ok, make it tsun, it will give those slappies something to beat their chest about.

BlueBayou's picture

Haha, good one Oyster.  +1 for your creativity.

buckeyedude's picture

Urban is a coach. OSU, ND and UM are similar to having a choice between a Lamborghini Countach, Ferrari F430 , or a Bugatti Veyron. All of them are super hot and super sexy and very desirable. All marquis choices. If ND would've come knocking on Urban's door, I'm sure it would've been hard to turn down. Same with...never mind. I can't wrap my mind around that one.
 It just comes down to personal preference. Urban grew up a Buckeye. That's where his heart is. That's all you need to know Bluebayou.
Personally, I'd take the Bugatti if I had the financial means.
Sticker price: $1,700,000 16cyl, 4 turbochargers, top speed: 253 mph. Fastest production car ever built.

 
 

Alhan's picture

I think you want the Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Super Sport instead!
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/bugatti/2011-bugatti-veyron-164-super-sport-ar93002.html
A few tweaks to the 1000 HP monster you have there:
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*From the article

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To put things in perspective however:

To put things into perspective here, at its original top speed, this monster would rip through its $42,000 Michelin tires in just 15 minutes. Oh and to boot, when you replace the tires, you also have to replace the wheels at the bargain basement price of $69,000. So for how much that 15 minutes of face-lifting fun, you could have snag up a Porsche Carrera 4 GTS.

I still want.
On a related note, if you want to spend less than half as much for almost as much speed, here's a good choice:

Hennessey Venom GT: 260 mph for the low low price of $950,000!

You can kill a fly with your slipper or a cannon. Either way, the fly dies. -Ramzy

buckeyedude's picture

What a bargain!

 
 

BlueBayou's picture

I love the car analogy Buckeyedude.

jthiel09's picture

I forget sometimes how wrongly Bruce was canned, at least in moments like that the character of some people like Bay stand out and they do the right thing. It's a bittersweet feeling right now for me as I type this out ... I realize that in less than 4 days time I'm going to have to wait 9 months for Buckeyes football once more. Give us one hell of an end to remember this undefeated season by boys, GO BUCKS!

JT

BuckeyeBacker98's picture

Bluebayou....
There is a difference between coaching a team and being a fan of the team.  Obviously, being the head coach at Michigan is a desirable position for anyone in the coaching profession.  What Meyer said he doesn't get is a person born and raised in Ohio becoming a fan of "that team up north". 
A vast majority of people that are in that category are contrarians, not very educated, and not very knowledgeable about the sport.  They are mostly the poster children for the "Wal-Mart Wolverine" clan.

Oyster's picture

Any guess who didn't like your response?  I countered it though, and all the others that I found.

BuckeyeBacker98's picture

Yeah, not much mystery about who slapped a down vote on that :).  The truth hurts!
Thanks for having my back.
Go Bucks, Michigan sucks!

BlueBayou's picture

It wasn't me, I don't have voting privileges on this site.  Even if I did, I don't think I would ever down vote.  Everybody has the right to their opinion.  It would also be pointless for me to downvote on here based on numbers anyway.  I would however upvote if I could.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

^^This. Yes, Urbz understands that a coach would take a job at a major program like TTUN's. What he doesn't understand is how Hoke, back when he was a chubby little 16-year old mommas boy - without any family connection to the TSUN - would ever root for TT.    

BlueBayou's picture

Hoke did have a family connection to Michigan.  His dad played with Bo at Miami of Ohio and was  friends with him.  Given that Hoke knew the head coach of Michigan as a boy, that is a pretty strong connection.  I think it also makes his fandom of Michigan more understandable.

Oyster's picture

I had an uncle who lived in that state up North.  We never invited him to family reunions and threw away his Christmas Cards.

BlueBayou's picture

Again, +1.  You are on a role.  Is this really true?  If so, did he just live there or was he a Michigan fan?  Thank goodness my family didn't do that to me when I lived in Cincinnati.

Oyster's picture

I threw my Poetic License card on the table for that one.

buckeyedude's picture

I have a 2nd cousin, who's sister-in-law's, brother's mother's Uncle Tony once had a friend who  was married to a girl from Hell, Michigan.
I still don't like them.

 
 

buckeyedude's picture

Maybe Lil' Brady Hoke heard that there were more all-you-can-eat-buffets per square mile in Michelin than any other state in the Union.

 
 

BlueBayou's picture

BBacker,
Good point about splitting the difference between coaching and fandom.  I do think that coaching and participating in the profession can ultimately change your perception of things as a fan.  I just don't buy that their is any hate towards Michigan from Urban Meyer.  I think what it is is a very good coach and motivator that truly understands this rivalry and fan base.  He is definitely a master of his craft.
With regards to your comment about the contrarians, your site, so I don't have any issue with it.  I just don't think all people in a "category" can be labled so simply.  A person can have many motivations to the choices a person makes.  Brady Hoke's dad played football for Woody and with Bo.  His dad was friends with Bo.  Their are too many personal connections there to simply think Hoke's choice was contrarian.  Has he presented it that way?  I believe so, but it paints a better picture for the fan base.  Fans of his program eat that stuff up.  Just like fans of tOSU eat up Urban's comments.  These comments are for a purpose and not simply emotionally driven.  These two are far too successful in their professions to be at the wim of their emotions. 
Another thing, I lived in the Dayton / Cincinnati area for a number of years and found that it surprisingly wasn't a tOSU stronghold.  The people there seemed mostly lukewarm to tOSU.  I am not sure why that was the case.  I theorized it was due to the Kentucky basketball program's influence in the area.  If anybody else has thoughts on that, I would love to know what they are.

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I suspect that Urbz hates/respects TTUN similar to how I do: don't tell anyone on here that I wrote this, but for most Buckeye fans, hate for TTUN is not real life "you must be liquidated" kind of hatred that we might feel toward, say, Ahmadinejad or The Backstreet Boys. It's more like how feel toward our alcoholic uncle who never ceases to remind us of how great he was like 40 years ago.    

Doc's picture

It's more like how feel toward our alcoholic uncle who never ceases to remind us of how great he was like 40 years ago.    

Apathy, contempt, sad, disgusted.....Pick one, they all apply.
 
 
 
 
 
 

"Say my name."

Frankly Scarlet's picture

It's always great to get a dose of history and perspective going into The Game. We get so caught up in the moment and seem to sometimes forget that this game has been played for over 100 years.
The Rivalry is filled with blowouts, upsets, big wins, crushing defeats, a slew of legendary moments and all-time great players that have somehow come to define many of us who never played for either school yet bleed the colors.
No matter what happens Saturday, this year's installment will add to the rich history of the greatest Rivalry in all of sport.
And while there is almost nothing more euphoric than winning this game - and almost nothing more crushing than losing it, it's not life and death. But it's pretty damn close.

 
"Buclkle your chinstrap, we're gonna grind meat!" - Woody Hayes  
 

RBuck's picture

Jennings and a few stuffed shirt trustees just hated the way Earle dressed on game days. Sweats. A few media members jump on this "flaw" as did a few vocal fans. Back then quite few folks thought that's one of reasons why he got canned. Therefore the black suit and fedora Earle wore for his last Buckeye game. I always thought that was a big FU from Bruce for some reason. Rick Bay was a class act.

"It's just another case of there you are". ~ Doc (1918-2012)

Earle's picture

Earle in his fedora

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Oyster's picture

My dad and I had to flown to Dallas that weekend for a Cowboys/Dolphins game (the first Sunday Night game too).  We watched the game at the Airport Hilton bar.  Great memories, and we still talk about it. 

Doc's picture

That is a damn fine look.

"Say my name."

Run_Fido_Run's picture

I don't know. If I had to guess, Robert Kraft probably squirms when he sees how Belichick dresses on game days. But Belichick has won a lot of football games.

Doc's picture

Why does the Maumee river flow north?  Because Meatchicken sucks!
 
GO BUCKS!

"Say my name."

MediBuck's picture

Though Coach Earle never achieved glory on the field the way Woody, Tress, or Urban have, his coaching tree says enough about his ability to influence and mold young men into leaders:
- Dom Capers (82, 83) -- Former Head Coach of Carolina Panthers and Houston Texans
- Pete Carroll (78, 79, 80) -- 2004 National Championship [USC]
- Nick Saban  (80, 81) -- 2003, 2009, 2011 National Championships [Bama]
- Jim Tressel (83, 84, 85) -- 2002 National Championship [TBDTITL]
- Urban Meyer (86, 87) -- 2006, 2008, (2012?) National Championships [Florida]
Between those five above his assistants have gone on to compile seven college national championships (2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2011, and likely 2012)  in the past ten years, head coach five NFL teams, mold five Heisman trophy winners, and shape countless NFL players.
His legacy will be exactly that: A huge-hearted man who was a better leader than coach, better mentor than tactician, and a purveyor of the Buckeye tradition.

"There is a force that makes us all brothers, no one goes his way alone." --Woody Hayes

Earle's picture

Well said! (Sheds a tear)

Italics are for emphasis; an ellipsis represents an unfinished thought.

buckeyedude's picture

Wow. He was quite a molder of men, Earle was.

 
 

LouGroza's picture

I think of ttun as one big turd. It could sit on a rock in the sun for days and days. Drying up completely, falling apart, turning into ash, and flittering away in the breeze until there is nothing left for anyone to see. Well maybe not all the rest of that past the turd part. It's 9:20 pm Tuesday and ttun still sucks!

osubuckeye4life's picture

Detroit is the city of eternal stink. No bs it really smells. Horrible!
 
One time I was driving with some friends to Windsor to go to the casino and whatnot. 
A friend of mine said "Oh my someone roll down the *expletive deleted* windows someone *expletive deleted* themselves.
Another friend said "It's not coming from inside the car man we're almost to Detroit, the city of eternal stink". 
One of the many reason I don't give a damn for the whole state up north!