Monday Skull Session

By DJ Byrnes on December 19, 2011 at 6:00a
RT @Horse_ebooks: His " river tricks " are very curious

The Ohio State University getting dumped by Urban Meyer's Florida Gators in 2007 was probably the most gut-wrenching loss of my life... Just with what was expected compared to what happened (and especially releasing the SEC Krakken)... it still pains me to think about it. It was supposed to be nothing but a ceremonial scrimmage before Troy Smith and Ohio State's rightful coronation into college football eternity. I remember being in Marion's Finish Line -- one of three legitimate businesses left standing in the City of Kings -- a few weeks before the game and pondering with my friend over which Ohio State jersey I wanted: Troy Smith's, Teddy Ginn's or Gonzo's? 

"Get Troy Smith, man. He's going to win the Heisman trophy and a national title and become an Ohio State God," my friend said to me. "Great logic," I replied as I took the pearlin' #10 red Ohio State jersey off the rack. 

Of course, I think everybody around here knows how this story ends. All I remember about the game -- and I don't remember much -- was Florida's defensive line's relentlessness. Play after play, there was some large man clad in blue and orange going berserk in Ohio State's backfield. After the game, it seemed so rudimentary. If a team has a dominating front-line, they will be tough to beat.

Fast forward to the present and it appears it will be Ohio State's defensive line will be the one's giving other team's fans the headaches. Yesterday, Bob Lichtenfels of reported 5-star defensive end Noah Spence would be a Buckeye. Spence, a 6'3" 240 lbs. DE from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, was supposedly a PSU-lean before Urban Meyer came knocking. Spence joins a DL recruiting class of Tommy Schutt, Adolphus Washington, and Se'Vonn Pittman. (BTW: Don't forget to follow Alex on Twitter if you need recruiting answers.) Add those four gentlemen to some of the talent Ohio State already has on the unit, and you can start to see why Brady Hoke is beefing up his offensive line. I'm sure Woody and Bo will be delighted to watch the talent boon in the trenches in the coming years of the Hoke and Meyer Holy War. 

 THE NCAA HAMMER COULD BE LURKING THIS WEEK. As 11W's O.G., Ramzy, reported yesterday on Twitter, Ohio State will receive its final verdict from the Highest Court in the Land by no later than Wednesday. At Urban Meyer's introductory press conference, Gene Smith basically laughed off the idea of the Buckeyes' receiving a stiff penalty as "not having any precedence." Urban Meyer didn't seem too worried about it either, so I am not worried in the least about these sanctions.

It will be hilarious to watch the tears of the Ohio State-haters, though. They will be glorious, so let those tears flow. So much faux-anger about 20 year olds getting discounted tattoos and a few hundred bucks -- I can't wait. And when that biblical flood of tears come -- and it will come, my friends -- here's what I propose be the official reaction of every Ohio State fan to the haters: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

 TIM BECKMAN, LAME DUCK POACHER. 97.1's Lori Schmidt found this article about Illinois' new coach Tim Beckman and how he may poach some members off Ohio State's "lame duck coaching staff." (That sound you hear? The quaking of Ohio State's fan-base as they envision Jim Bollman unleashing his 22nd century offense from behind the opponent's sidelines.) Honestly, I don't know who he would want. Heacock, if he's not ready to ride off into the sunset?

RT @medical_sword: I place my hand to my ear, and my ear to the door. "Cats," I explain to no one. "It is certain." "How can you tell?" they might ask. "Well,"A YOUNG CRIMINAL MASTERMIND

 RUDY IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS. I've never seen Rudy and that fact will be etched into my tombstone. I know what it's about -- some undersized white dude from Indiana Illinois making a special teams tackle in the 3rd quarter against Rutgers, or something. I hate Notre Dame. Why would anybody outside of that community watch that movie? 

Besides, it turns out ol' Daniel Ruettiger, the inspiration for Rudy, is a bit of a swindler. He recently settled an SEC stock fraud case for a princely sum of $383,000. Of course, he's allegedly pilfered $11,000,000 from people, so I'm sure he's got that laying around in some coffee cans in his aunt with dementia's tomato garden in Kansas. Really, the fact that Rudy -- so long the poster-boy of the "GEE WILLICKERS, SON, LOOK AT THESE HEROIC SPORTS TITANS" generation -- got sewn up by the Feds is just the perfect capstone on a season where college football has done nothing but shine like the bright diamond of moral clarity it always has been.

 A GLIMPSE INTO THE FUTURE. Tim May of the Columbus Dispatch brings a profile on Ohio State's future offensive coordinator, Tom Herman, who is coaching at Iowa State and recruiting for the Buckeyes. While Herman cautions Ohio State fans only may see a "glimpse" of their team's future offense, he doesn't agree that he's a spread-only coach (emphasis mine):

His philosophy is a mix, “and we just happen to be doing it out of the shotgun. But you can’t get away from the core principles of offensive football, and that’s whether you are running the spread-bone like at Georgia Tech, or you’re lining up under center in a pro set like USC, or you’re spreading people out. You’ve still got to block people and you’ve got to be able to run the ball effectively to win games. But as Coach Meyer and I talked about, the field is 120 yards long and almost 54 yards wide, and the defense has only 11 human beings to cover it. Or main objective is to use that space and those numbers to our advantage.”

 WILL THE BROWNS WIN A GAME THE REST OF THE YEAR? After waking up at an earth-shatteringly hour (10 AM) to watch Aston Villa fail to even play a child's version of the game of soccer, I was treated to the Browns' overtime loss to the immortal John Skelton. Will they win a game the rest of the year? Probably not, but then they'll probably beat Pittsburgh on New Year's Day and then I'll be roped back into this circle of masochism next year. *sigh*

 SO OL' KIM JONG-IL WAS MORTAL AFTER ALL, EH? Ain't no party like a Pyongyang Party... Kim Jong-il looking at things... Sketchy bunnies...


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Abe Froman's picture

I am so glad that I was able to see the immortalization of Kim Jong Il in Team America.  I will forever be a better person for it!

I went with the Troy Smith jersey.  Afterall, he was going to win the Heisman and he had beaten michigan 3 times.

Basking in the wake of mediocrity.....

SLVRBLLTS's picture

Best of all, you now have a Ryan Shazier jersey.

"Because we couldn't go for three"

ThirdLegLouie's picture

That #10 is like gold now. 

R.I.P. to Kim Jong the Second as Rick Perry would say

If you ain't a Silver Bullet, you're a target

builderofcoalitions's picture

I am stoked about this DL haul, but is anyone else worried that the OL will be thin as usual next year?

Because we couldn't go for three.

blazers34's picture

with all of these D lineman, it seems logical that 1 or 2 would move to O line to get PT.

Factor in the Fragel rumors, and they should be fine.  Hopefully Dodson flips soon

Wolverine_Killer's picture

Considering we're losing Bollman and the coaching there should be much better now (I hope), I'll still consider that one a plus for next season.

bucki5's picture

I wonder how Kalis feels  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

SaintTressel's picture

I'm guessing pleased to be getting a free ride to a pretty excellent university, with a football team that just went 10-2

bucki5's picture

Just sayin . . . this D Line class is going to embarass him for years. 

BuddhaBuck's picture


You mad, bro?

Nice work DJ. The great thing about college nameless uni's is you can parlay the #10 into a Shazier jersey.... 

Don't text while driving.

DJ Byrnes's picture

Alas, I don't wear jerseys any more, except for my "Tim Couch #2" Browns jersey which will be brought out for my wedding ceremony.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

Orlando Buckeye's picture

Slightly OT but I was watching a preview for this upcoming movie, mostly it looks a little cheesy but one scene in particular caught my eye.


BuckeyeChris's picture

I did they get Bauserman to give up his # that fast?!

AltaBuck's picture

Deleted scene from Remember the Titans.

best part of the whole movie...why in the hell did they delete it.


I am Groot - Groot

BED's picture


Thanks Alta.  LOVE IT.

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biggy84's picture

The kid in that film now plays on Sons Of Anarchy.

TheHumbleBuckeye's picture

I'll probably go see it just to support OSU. I love the idea of seeing the Horseshoe on the big screen. It just looks so much cooler than Notre Dame Stadium which looks rather "meh" anyway.

PWLafferty. TBDBITL. TRow.'s picture

Hahah thank god someone found this...I actually saw those two right in front of us (TBDBITL) throwing around a ball last year at one of the games, and I was thinkin those jerseys were looking a little 90s to me...good to know what that was all about! thanks orlando

"I'm up there with Chris and Dave Pass, getting ready to broadcast that game, and that band came out of that tunnel, I was wiping tears out of my eyes and all the memories came back." ~Urban Meyer

Jack Fu's picture

Up the Villa!

Man, they look bad this year. Games are dour and hard to watch.

DJ Byrnes's picture

Indeed on all 3 counts.

Though I guess when you lose players like Garreth, Milner, Ashley Young, and Downing, a drop off is to be expected. Still, they are a boring team to watch and it starts with our idiot manager and his lack of ambition.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

William's picture

Can't stand Villa. Root for Arsenal. Van Persie is having quite a year since he hasn't been injured yet. 

Jack Fu's picture

They must have loaded up on the horse placenta.

DJ Byrnes's picture

Is it because AVFC supporters chant "Where is your European Cup?" every year at the Emirates?

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

slippy's picture

My friend's dad played with Rudy.  He said the whole time hated him.  He was the brown nosing try-hard that sucked at football.

Alex's picture

Interesting fact, Gene Smith also played with Rudy. 

ArTbkward's picture

Good fact

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...

(Also, I'm not a dude)

BuckeyeChris's picture

I actually heard that it was Gene Smith who came out of the game, so that Rudy could go in. True? 

BuckeyeChief's picture

I've also heard that the coach said the movie was a bumch of BS.

"2014 National with it!!!"

Squirrel Master's picture

Joe Montana said that all seniors got to come in and get one play but he did get a sack on that one play. the team did not rally around him like it did in the movie.

I saw a UFO told me to have a goodyear!

osukdawg76's picture

Well, considering that it was Rudy himself that pushed the movie onto studios in an attempt to get it filmed and it took him ten years to do so, is it really a surprise?

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.



BTwrestle04's picture

I don't think Ohio State has received this level of hate since the 2006/2007 debacles in the NC Game. I kind of welcome it back. It's fun to just sit back and laugh. 

TheHostileDwarf's picture

I don't know...the last year's worth of hate has been pretty least now the hate is back to coming from a different, much more jealous, place...

slidingscrapes's picture

It's funny that Aston Villa failed to even play a chld's version of the game of soccer, because I consistently feel that the Cleveland Browns fail to even play a child's version of the game of football. Fun fact: Randy Lerner owns both teams.

Show them Ohio's here!

osukdawg76's picture

Correction to the Rudy section.


He was not from Indiana.  He played at Joliet Catholic Academy in Joliet, Illinois.



I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.



DJ Byrnes's picture

LOL, of course he went to school at a place called "Joliet Catholic Academy".

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Re: Joliet

Willie 'Too Big' Hall: You'll never get Matt and Mr. Fabulous out of them high-payin' gigs.
Jake: Oh yeah? Well me and the Lord, we have an understanding.

BrewstersMillions's picture

JCA was my high school's biggest rival. Several members of Rudy's extended family went to either JCA or Providence (My school-Alma Mater of oft Injured Browns Guard Eric Steinbach). As a result, I've been able to 'meet' a few of the Rudy's as well as THE Rudy-He's as big of a doucher as you'd expect to meet. Not only does he have little man syndrome but he has a rare form of the Douche-ease known as Notre Dame little man syndrome. The word arrogant doesn't really do him justice. I'm glad to see he's in hot water. Now if only he'd cut himself shaving, roll his ankle and\or burn himself with hot coffee, my day would be complete.

NC_Buckeye's picture

I always heard he was an idiot. Correct me if I'm wrong but he eventually dropped out and never received a degree, right?

BrewstersMillions's picture

I don't know that. I thought he did graduate but I could be wrong.

NC_Buckeye's picture

Nope, you're right.

In 1976, Rudy received his bachelor's degree in sociology from Notre Dame. 

I need a personal fact checker.

On the whole I am not impressed by ND's legacy. I used to tease an ND fan of "Rudy" that if I wanted to watch a story about a mentally handicapped young man play football then I would rent Radio or The Waterboy.

Hoody Wayes's picture

Attn: 11W Staff

I am stoked! Can't wait for your "Beef O'Brady's Bowl" Live, Open Thread!

Dean's picture

Congratulations, 11W, you are officially a better news source than CNN, which seemed to think this morning that snowstorms were a more important story than Kim Jong Il.

osukdawg76's picture

I wonder if people realize that his son, who is now in charge, is far crazier than Kim Jong Il ever could be.  And he isn't going to be keeling over from a heart attack any time soon.

I, for one, welcome our new coaching overlords.



DJ Byrnes's picture

"The Little General" was showing off photos of himself with Toni Kukoc and Kobe Bryant, so yeah, the future of North Korea is shining bright.

Californian by birth, Marionaire by the Grace of President Warren G. Harding.

BED's picture

you are officially a better news source than CNN


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The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

OSUNeedles's picture

Sweet jumping Jesus! I go on a 7 day cruise & don't ever get online & when I get home 11W is raining down grey boxes of goodness like some jolly old elf! This is awesome... Except for the Sullinger injury...

ArTbkward's picture

I can imagine, a day without a top rated recruit has seemed disappointing this week.

Not to rain on your parade but the grey box of NCAA doom is suppose to fall by Wednesday though.

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...

(Also, I'm not a dude)

btalbert25's picture

I even think that gray box is going to be better than we may have imagined back in May.  Maybe a couple more schollies get docked, but don't think it's going to be too bad overall. 

ArTbkward's picture

I think you're correct.  I'm hoping what I feel when I read it is nothing but relief that this mess is over.

We should strive to keep thy name, of fair repute and spotless fame...

(Also, I'm not a dude)

Irricoir's picture

I haven't been paying attention to Michigan's recruits much and somehow I missed it if it was discussed on this site, but they have a 5 star recruit named Justin Boren. He was interested in following in his brothers footsteps to Ohio State?

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

BED's picture

I think you're referring to Jacoby Boren.  As of 12/8, Alex still has him as OSU commit.

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The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law, Class of 2009

Alex's picture

Jacoby Boren is a 3 star recruit committed to Ohio State...were you looking back at the 2006 page to see then 5-star recruit Justin Boren committed to Michigan?

Irricoir's picture

You know I might have viewed an old page. I am a little embarassed. I mean I know we had Justin for a while but I could have sworn I clicked an updated page for recruiting. I don't know how I got there. My bad guys.

I don't always take names when I kick ass but when I do, they most often belong to a Wolverine.

JakeBuckeye's picture

Justin Boren graduated from The Ohio State University last year after he transferred from Michigan and played offensive line here in 2009 and 2010.

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aplumb100's picture

The correct spelling here is forty. 


nickma71's picture

Reading some of the stories about McGroin, it wasn't a fight. It was a one punch knock out. And based on tweets from PSU students and athletes, likely related to him being a "d***bag" that can't shut his mouth.